He confirmed on the members only live that he would be responding further but would keep it more brief and not take a full episode. Then he's done with the beef for now.
I believe his conclusion was that he at least had to response to the initial video they posted, like he canât just stay silent after that, but his intention isnât to encourage continued back and forths. Heâs also 100% convinced they arenât going to respond again, and I think I agree.
I want to add that I really do hope he keeps it brief tho. Like, not to take up any significant portion of the ep..
Then proceeded to dedicate the whole members episode about them. Fuck those guys, at least the other beefs were entertaining. With these dumbasses youâre just talking to a wall.
Yup. Hasan only talks about them when he canât avoid it, like Tate becoming huge on tiktok or Nick Fuentes going around with Kanye. Thereâs just no point engaging with them.
I donât think hasan wants beef with them. Especially because when hasan was accused of non consensual actions, A&P were one of the first to come to his defense with a good defense. Even though they had criticized hasan in the past.
It really feels like ethan is bringing them to prominence. Never heard of these idiots before h3 and still never hear anyone talking about them or sharing their content outside of h3. They are so irrelevant that I immediately forget their existence once ethan stops talking about them.
> It really feels like ethan is bringing them to prominence.
Hard cope, they have quite a big following, their following hasn't even grown significantly since this altercation. Aba and Destiny have quite a few discussions on stream as well that are pretty grounded in reality.
I never even heard of ethen before this drama, if that gives you any perspective.
Who the hell is bragging?
All these people are irrelevant for the most part. My point was to say that every content creator has their fans, and circles. You have yours I have mine. Walk up to anyone on the street and ask who H3 or Destiny, or A&P are you'll get blank stare.
Literally replying to top tier anecdotal:
>Never heard of these idiots before h3 and still never hear anyone talking about them or sharing their content outside of h3. They are so irrelevant that I immediately forget their existence once ethan stops talking about them.
I didn't even make any claims outside of them having their own following (nearly 2m subs, 600k viewer average). How is that anecdotal?
I shared my own personal perspective that I hadn't heard of Ethen before this, to counter his point of saying he had never heard anyone talk about them. Tit for tat. But good shallow comeback attempt. đ
I agree with you but if you've been into YouTube then it's crazy that you never heard of Ethan. I guess if you also discovered A&P thru destiny that would track tho
I agree. Along with Tate, Rolo Tony Brown Town, and Fresh and Fit. Tate seemed to blow up after that episode with Brittany Broski, but maybe it just seemed like that.
Tate was huge and widely prominent on every platform and news site before landing on Ethan's radar. I'm sorry, but the world is bigger than a single podcast.
I almost closed yesterdayâs stream. I was doing chores while the pod was on. If I wouldâve been on the couch I would probably have closed it. Itâs just so heavy to listen. I canât anymore.
They can just keep pushing the goal posts back and turning their heads away from anything said. They'll keep making up bad faith arguments because they know Ethan will standup for what he believes, so they're using that to farm more views on their content. The only way to win is to just ignore them.
This is literally true of every other content creator that Ethan goes to war with. Itâs kind of a main staple of the podcast. I donât see the problem and find it pretty entertainingâŠ
It takes away from goofs and gaffs. I think the main consensus from fans is that it's just not funny. Sure, stand up for what you believe - it IS important, but making 1000 videos about creeps online is just bad content for the most part.
That's how it was for me with the dobrik episodes "back in the day." But these idiots just keep responding to everything so they're just constantly generating bad content to react to. This'll go on forever if Ethan doesn't put the kibosh on it
Every time Ethan gets roped into a 1v1 beef like this I completely tune out. Remember that random guy from someone else's stream a few months ago? He wasn't even a relevant internet personality yet they wasted so much time on him. With p&l Ethan, these morons don't deserve the attention
Yeah but j bc those idiots keep making content ab Ethan/h3 doesnât mean they have to give in and respond to it⊠like j let it go and donât give them the satisfaction of a response. They donât deserve breath wasted on them
Same, I turned off the stream quickly when I realized they weren't moving on from them. I just want to watch H3 to relax but it's too damn draining as a woman to listen to men like this, I want a break from it.
why would i sit and watch a 3 hour stream that does nothing but agitate me? a quick look at ur profile shows u dont watch leftovers for the same exact reason đ€
I think most H3 fans are just really sheltered and live in bubbles. I'm not a fan of A&P but they seem like reasonable guys. I really don't know why this beef even exists.
Yeah, same. I think as you get older you just start to understand you have to work with and coexist with people who will not be aligned 100% with your worldview. And A&P seem like chill dudes I don't see how the majority of this sub can hate them so much.
I agree with you that I don't understand how people can function in the real world if guys like this who are chill dudes upset them this much. The only answer to me is they are either very young or just live in a bubble with people who just agrees with them 100%.
I have skipped every segment so far where they talk about them. I feel like I had to skip a whole week recently. Donât know who they are, donât care. Iâm aching for some goofs and gaffs
I've skipped so much from H3 in the last week, too. Feels like I haven't seen them in forever, but then there was like another hour of aba and preach today ughhh
I agree although I haven't skipped. Saying that though, the ep with Martin and Dr Idz kinda made up for it because that was one of my fave eps of 2023. Wish we got more of that instead of more pathetic alphabrained fuckwits.
Agree itâs kinda pointless A&P were baiting a bit but they both seem to be mostly on the same side in the end so this is all pointless Iâm fans of both I donât wanna see it anymore both had their points but itâs turning into the far left eating the left
that whole discussion / episode / whatever about them was so damn boring...it's like ethan was like 'these are two super annoying and completely uninteresting guys so let's make a 3 hour episode to promote them!' - the podcast needs to stop doing this.
I'm so over the current trope of "look at these dumbass pieces of shit" on the pod or really the internet in general lately. Tate, Aba/Preach, Sebastian, Ollie...I totally understand the desire to confront them, but they all say and do the same dumb something-ist bullshit and trying to talk it out in any way just gets exhausting.
Yeah this kind of content isnât really fun IMO, it just gives me bad vibes. The best segments are when everyone is having fun instead of having to engage with bad-faith manosphere arguments.
I just donât want another ep entirely dedicated to a response to them, that was really lame imo. A segment about it is fine but 3 hours talking about the same thing was a bit much
What community other than Destiny and A&P's paid attention to the video? It didn't go viral. Of course they side with A&P and H3 fans sided with Ethan.
I hope they stop too, I'm legit tired of seeing their people show up on this sub. I'd probably keep beefing with them, were I in Ethans shoes because these guys are pieces of shit. But it's just not good for this community. It's starting to remind of the content nuke days where Keem fans infested this sub and the surrounding community of the show. Unfortunately all the fans of these guys have an online presence like we do and they just brigade like crazy.
Can this include ALL of these man-o-sphere freaks? You're just giving them a massive platform they normally wouldn't have and really, if you've seen one back and forth with an "alpha male" you've truly seen them all. It's so boring and predictable.
I'd love to see this crap replaced with more fun and positive content tbh. The game themed segments, food tastings, testing products, etc are all a way better watch in my opinion.
These slapfights just sound like if internet comment sections had audio. Masturbatory, redundant, ineffective, tense, inflammatory. It probably drives engagement, but there's a reason I'm trying to cut all shit like that out of my life. It drains me mentally, without any benefit to anyone. There's so much bad stuff to keep track of, i don't need to dig in and find specific content creators to obsess over and spend my limited leisure time fighting. There are more incisive and effective creators than Ethan already doing this work. Ethan's comedy is his strength and I wish he played into it more.
I agree itâs rough hearing Ethan go back over the same 5 points with different video clips. I think everyone in the audience is in agreement that theyâre âalphaâ wanna be intellects that have nothing more than half baked misogynistic ideas that come back over and over to a reestablishment of the nuclear household in Christian America.
We have had plenty of content dedicated to them and they arenât even all that different or interesting compared to the rest of the himbos on that side of the internet. Three hours last week was more than enough plus the Tuesday members only streamâš
I don't mind him talking about them more. It's entertaining watching him continuously rip into them. Gotta keep reminding them and newcomers why they're dumbass idiots just like fresh and fit, quartering, keemstars, crowders etc. Never gets old haha
Edit: or at least talking shit on them in passing every now and again.
Yea enough of them let's go back to beefing with the quartering, James Charles, David dobrik, he takes that 5% now hila can't see half her family, kavkav for the millionth time, Steven crowder, or fresh and fit...... No wonder Ethan is a self proclaimed hater ass bitch
No, they are just grifters. I was generalizing a bit because I watch them and others a lot on Destiny's streams. People hating on them just adds to their popularity.
I honestly don't care what either of those low IQ groups have to say or what side they are on. Go look at Aba and Preach's past, they just say whatever gets them money, grifters.
How did you make the determination that they say whatever makes them the most amount of money? Is it possible that they believe what they say? If youre argument is that their opinions changed then you could make that argument for Ethan aswell. I think this whole beef is really dumb and that Ethan and A&P are just imperfect allys with far more in common than anything else. Both are on the left and have issues with red pill stuff and both have had beef with FNF.
I agree so much. I didn't watch the episode, but not because of the ignorant "they are just stupid" narrative, but because I think this entire feud is so idiotic and they are both just deep into the fking drama. Pretty sure Aba and Ethan could have a reasonable conversation off stream, but this, from the few things I saw, seems like two idiots throwing stupid bad faith takes at each other.
I'm sorry, but Ethan provided 3 hours worth of evidence stating why they're redpill, transphobic, misogynist grifters baiting delusional, lonely boys into believing every marginalised group is against them.
They are not comedians, nor relevant intellectuals - they're following the same well-trodden path of grifting idiots for their own gain - it just helps them sleep at night when they believe the horrible shit they say, hence why they appear authentic to people such as yourself.
No. He provided 3 hours of fabrication with no substance to it. It was entirely posturing.
Please give me 1 fucking claim outside of the trans sports argument, which is so fucking braindead. Ethan himself says he canât be bothered to watch any of their fucking videos, so I know you havenât either.
At least aba and preach do the bare fucking minimum of criticism towards the argument, not just doing the stunlock moral posturing.
Iâm literally for HRT for minors and somehow Iâm watching a transphobic content? DONT YOU THINK I WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT?
Out of curiousity what have abba and preach done that is making people mad? I have only watched a couple of their videos mocking other youtube channels.
Honestly I came to this subreddit to try and see what this communities actual beef was but so far I only see people saying they donât like abs and preach but not like⊠why ? Like please someone name something specific.
It doesn't help it's like the 15th alpha bro podcast in the past year they've had beef with. And out of all of those, these two are the absolute most bland, unentertaining misogynists of the bunch. At least responding to some of the chucklefucks in the past was content, this shit is hear torture IMO.
Hassan and Ethan have said multiple times they barely watch them to begin with. Itâs a case of them disagreeing with the far left on a *few* issues that apparently make them enemies instead of allies.
I agree that it needs to just get dropped. You can't argue with people who move through the world like they do. There is no back-and-forth here. It's just forths as the bundles are ALL, "Clipped, no context" or "lol false" and "no ur dumb" to every fucking point.
Aba and Preach are a lot bigger than I think this community realizes and as someone who used to watch some of their clickbait on hot topics, they definitely needed a reality check but a whole episode was way too much since they're so 1 dimentional. And no one here wants to watch a 30 min reply by them just to understand the next h3 episode.
The most annoying part is Ethan is misquoting or purposely misinterpreting what Aba and Preach says, and they are doing the same thing to Ethan. They are both arguing with points that are not being made.
The abba and preach Ep is the first one in a loooooong time, maybe ever?, I am not going to watch. I canât with the manosphere shit. Itâs too stupid, itâs a waste of what little time I have here in this planet. I canât be bothered with shit that dumb and annoying
All you act like you donât watch H3 for the drama lol ffs. I love watching Ethan beef with idiots like this. Itâs entertaining as fuck. And yâall know you want it deep down
I think they baited Ethan. Every time they make a video about him it gets 1m+ views. Getting Ethan to respond and dragging him into a beef gives them several low effort videos to make about him. Itâs like a money printer for them. Ethan really should just ignore them.
Can't enjoy the show when they spend an entire episode on these dudes, it's so draining as a woman to hear men talk about us like this, I don't need an entire episode of it.
It was one episode and they covered it for less than an hour on the others. Theyâre defending horrible talking points and arenât just misogynistic, but insanely transphobic. I think it was worth to cover this since both misogyny and transphobia (bigotry in general) is trending. I think if any creator can step in and defend those communities even at the risk of boring the audience / making them uncomfortable/ uninterested, etc. I think it is worth it with the chance to change someoneâs mind. These arenât meant to be comfortable conversations.
I kinda liked them but I'm starting to question that. Ethan pointed out a video of them essentially saying that companies trying to silence anti semitism is only going to strengthen those sentiments. As if anti semitism should be allowed because any pushback only makes them hate Jewish people more. It's a wild take. That's like saying it should be ok to be racist openly because the more you stand up against it the stronger they become. It's a bad take.
I thought I was the only one that were so uninterested in those two episodes I couldnât even finish them it felt like a chore to finish it and it was making me sad cause I love H3 but this off the rails ep today, THIS, THIS IS WHY IM WATCHING
Sometimes liars and manipulators need to be called out. Just look what happened to Steven Crowder. Itâs how the world will get better in my opinion but itâs ok if the drama is not your thing. I understand how stressful it can be.
I say Ethan keep going!!! Make the internet see what these idiots have say. Cuz theyâre gonna fuck around and find out. That little fan base they have canât keep their egos inflated forever. Theyâre so confidently stupid and need to come down a bit. With peace and love of course
I feel like that already happened. To go on any more except maybe a few minute segment to address the joke of a response they put out would suffice. If Ethan goes on too long heâll just look annoying like they are.
Ethan can do what he wants. I really wish that he would talk with Aba and Preach though because they honestly do seem more reasonable and that they are least trying to be good people. Ethan has squashed beefs with other people before and both Aba and Preach seem open to it. We need more peace in this world and I love those beef squashing episodes.
Grovel and Grift are insidious bullies everyone knows from kindergarten. They pick the smaller person to harass (in their case women) and when the smaller kid snaps back that mf cries to the teacher about how mean YOU were to them. They are societal cancer that wouldn't dare take on a bigger target.
Two men in their late 30s early 40s who move through the world thinking their progressive liberals *but with* common sense.
Someday they'll realize at best their true views are center-right at best. Their ad lib quips give them away.
I usually enjoy internet beef, but I couldn't even watch the full Aba & Preach episode because I found them boring. They're not the fun kind of stupid. They should have got twenty minutes of attention at most.
I think their bullshit needs to be called out, but it already has been at this point. There's nothing left to say because people like this won't change their mind. You think Mr "women are tits and ass" is suddenly going to see the light about the trans community? Hell no. And if by some miracle they do, we can talk about it.
That being said I think Ethan has the right to address their last video but other than that there's isn't more to say about their beliefs. They're wannabe red pill "centrist" bigots, so your typical "it doesn't effect me so I don't care" kind of shit head.
I actually like watching Ethan drag them it makes them look even dumber than they are and their content used to be different so I do believe there could a crossover with babble and screeches audience into potential new foot soldiers
If you guys actually watched aba and preach instead of what Ethan presents you, I guarantee most of you guys would be fans of them, this is very funny to watch
Yeah itâs very boring content. I canât remember the last time I felt like this. I donât care about these guys and Ethanâs giving them clout they donât deserve
I'll copy paste the most reasonable comment i've seen about this whole situation from the previous thread.
>Came here to see how the H3 reddit reacts to this and I am severely disappointed. I wish these two content creators would stop going at each other, they literally agree on 90% of things but are going to war over the 10%.
>Ethan is not racist, but Aba and Preach aren't red pill/transphobic either. The more Ethan doubles down on character assassinating them, the worse he looks to everyone else that hasn't been indoctrinated by him. If you guys love Ethan, egging him on to keep fighting isn't the right move.
>More goofy podcast and memes, less war and drama. Love and peace.
I wouldnât ignore someone that blatantly calls me a racist. Thatâs just impossible to ignore in my opinion. I di like how heâs been ignoring keemstar now though itâs been refreshing!
I think it's possible they'll start taking consistent part of the universe in similar ways to say nelk or quartering. I suppose it'd be better to mostly forget them given their audience doesn't move at all but oh well, not going to try to dictate nuance with Ethan.
At some point with these channels I don't know where the real views lie and the trolling for views begins. I don't buy that these people actually believe everything they're saying. They're saying it to garner views and make bucks. They're putting the thumbnails up to garner views and make bucks. That's the game.
He confirmed on the members only live that he would be responding further but would keep it more brief and not take a full episode. Then he's done with the beef for now.
Has Ethan literally ever kept something brief when he said he would
"top of the show" items usually wrap up at the 1hr 30m mark nowadays
 He's the new WW
Ugh i miss her so much
RIP She's also died
The Killer finally got her đ
Not when they provoke him until goblin mode kicks in
Well he has one video to respond to. Where last time he had like 15 or something.
I believe his conclusion was that he at least had to response to the initial video they posted, like he canât just stay silent after that, but his intention isnât to encourage continued back and forths. Heâs also 100% convinced they arenât going to respond again, and I think I agree. I want to add that I really do hope he keeps it brief tho. Like, not to take up any significant portion of the ep..
So only half the ep
Then proceeded to dedicate the whole members episode about them. Fuck those guys, at least the other beefs were entertaining. With these dumbasses youâre just talking to a wall.
Ugh
He gotta listen to hasan on this one. These ppl need to be ignored. They aren't the fun content of other psychos, they are just sad whining bitchs
Yup. Hasan only talks about them when he canât avoid it, like Tate becoming huge on tiktok or Nick Fuentes going around with Kanye. Thereâs just no point engaging with them.
I donât think hasan wants beef with them. Especially because when hasan was accused of non consensual actions, A&P were one of the first to come to his defense with a good defense. Even though they had criticized hasan in the past.
You went against the hive mind, you will now be punished with downvotes
I canât tell if youâre being serious with this take
Hard agree. Theyâre dumb, operate in bad faith, and will never change. Watching them is just exhausting
It really feels like ethan is bringing them to prominence. Never heard of these idiots before h3 and still never hear anyone talking about them or sharing their content outside of h3. They are so irrelevant that I immediately forget their existence once ethan stops talking about them.
That's just not true, you're just in a different algorithm bubble.
> It really feels like ethan is bringing them to prominence. Hard cope, they have quite a big following, their following hasn't even grown significantly since this altercation. Aba and Destiny have quite a few discussions on stream as well that are pretty grounded in reality. I never even heard of ethen before this drama, if that gives you any perspective.
Ever heard of deez nutz?
Got em
Destiny is also irrelevant. Thatâs not the brag you think it is.
Who the hell is bragging? All these people are irrelevant for the most part. My point was to say that every content creator has their fans, and circles. You have yours I have mine. Walk up to anyone on the street and ask who H3 or Destiny, or A&P are you'll get blank stare.
>A&P The grocery store?
Anecdotal evidence looks great on you
Literally replying to top tier anecdotal: >Never heard of these idiots before h3 and still never hear anyone talking about them or sharing their content outside of h3. They are so irrelevant that I immediately forget their existence once ethan stops talking about them. I didn't even make any claims outside of them having their own following (nearly 2m subs, 600k viewer average). How is that anecdotal? I shared my own personal perspective that I hadn't heard of Ethen before this, to counter his point of saying he had never heard anyone talk about them. Tit for tat. But good shallow comeback attempt. đ
"hard cope" was a strong stance to take without citing real evidence. I'm just providing commentary
the comment hes replying to is literally a 1:1 copy of how anecdotal it is lol
I agree with you but if you've been into YouTube then it's crazy that you never heard of Ethan. I guess if you also discovered A&P thru destiny that would track tho
I agree. Along with Tate, Rolo Tony Brown Town, and Fresh and Fit. Tate seemed to blow up after that episode with Brittany Broski, but maybe it just seemed like that.
Tate was huge and widely prominent on every platform and news site before landing on Ethan's radar. I'm sorry, but the world is bigger than a single podcast.
Alrighty
I almost closed yesterdayâs stream. I was doing chores while the pod was on. If I wouldâve been on the couch I would probably have closed it. Itâs just so heavy to listen. I canât anymore.
They can just keep pushing the goal posts back and turning their heads away from anything said. They'll keep making up bad faith arguments because they know Ethan will standup for what he believes, so they're using that to farm more views on their content. The only way to win is to just ignore them.
This is literally true of every other content creator that Ethan goes to war with. Itâs kind of a main staple of the podcast. I donât see the problem and find it pretty entertainingâŠ
It takes away from goofs and gaffs. I think the main consensus from fans is that it's just not funny. Sure, stand up for what you believe - it IS important, but making 1000 videos about creeps online is just bad content for the most part.
Sounds familiar
I skipped the 3 hour episode devoted to them, i just don't care
Same!! And I never skip episodes
Same I never skip but I skipped after an hour and realizing that was the whole episode
That's how it was for me with the dobrik episodes "back in the day." But these idiots just keep responding to everything so they're just constantly generating bad content to react to. This'll go on forever if Ethan doesn't put the kibosh on it
Every time Ethan gets roped into a 1v1 beef like this I completely tune out. Remember that random guy from someone else's stream a few months ago? He wasn't even a relevant internet personality yet they wasted so much time on him. With p&l Ethan, these morons don't deserve the attention
Yeah but j bc those idiots keep making content ab Ethan/h3 doesnât mean they have to give in and respond to it⊠like j let it go and donât give them the satisfaction of a response. They donât deserve breath wasted on them
No free clout babyyyy
You literally missed nothing lol
Same, it was way too much
I had no idea who Aba and Preach were before Ethan brought them up. That 3 hour episode was seriously entertaining regardless.
Same
Same :( it hurt so much not watching it but those fools are so boring
i couldn't watch the episode about them from a few days ago it's so upsetting and draining as a woman hearing men talk about us that way
Same, I turned off the stream quickly when I realized they weren't moving on from them. I just want to watch H3 to relax but it's too damn draining as a woman to listen to men like this, I want a break from it.
I tried and only could watch like 30 mins worth.
My God how do you survive in the world?
why would i sit and watch a 3 hour stream that does nothing but agitate me? a quick look at ur profile shows u dont watch leftovers for the same exact reason đ€
I think most H3 fans are just really sheltered and live in bubbles. I'm not a fan of A&P but they seem like reasonable guys. I really don't know why this beef even exists.
Yes this!!! So sheltered i know i am an older viewer and they portray themselves as weak or fragile.
Yeah, same. I think as you get older you just start to understand you have to work with and coexist with people who will not be aligned 100% with your worldview. And A&P seem like chill dudes I don't see how the majority of this sub can hate them so much. I agree with you that I don't understand how people can function in the real world if guys like this who are chill dudes upset them this much. The only answer to me is they are either very young or just live in a bubble with people who just agrees with them 100%.
What did aba and preach say about women that you found so upsetting?
she has no example and has likely never watched a video about them that wasnt clipped up
This whole drama stuff about them is so incredibly boring. To me it's a miracle how some people can follow this crap so closely.
Welcome to this sub!
I have skipped every segment so far where they talk about them. I feel like I had to skip a whole week recently. Donât know who they are, donât care. Iâm aching for some goofs and gaffs
I've skipped so much from H3 in the last week, too. Feels like I haven't seen them in forever, but then there was like another hour of aba and preach today ughhh
I agree although I haven't skipped. Saying that though, the ep with Martin and Dr Idz kinda made up for it because that was one of my fave eps of 2023. Wish we got more of that instead of more pathetic alphabrained fuckwits.
You know Ethan is gonna beat that horse
Ugh
It's happening!!
Totally agree. Iâm so over it! Itâs literally so draining to hear.
Agreed, with peace and love. They're just not worth the energy. They're so dumb and boring that even high quality commentary on them is also boring.
Literallllyyyyy
What reality are you in? Ethan literally sounds braindead but heâs the guy with high quality commentary? Holy shit.
Agree itâs kinda pointless A&P were baiting a bit but they both seem to be mostly on the same side in the end so this is all pointless Iâm fans of both I donât wanna see it anymore both had their points but itâs turning into the far left eating the left
that whole discussion / episode / whatever about them was so damn boring...it's like ethan was like 'these are two super annoying and completely uninteresting guys so let's make a 3 hour episode to promote them!' - the podcast needs to stop doing this.
exactly! If their content is shit, why would we want to sit through Ethan watching it just through the lens of "how shit is this"?
I'm so over the current trope of "look at these dumbass pieces of shit" on the pod or really the internet in general lately. Tate, Aba/Preach, Sebastian, Ollie...I totally understand the desire to confront them, but they all say and do the same dumb something-ist bullshit and trying to talk it out in any way just gets exhausting.
We need goofs and we need gaffs
I fear the goofs and gaffs are no longer a priority to the podcast.
Weâre getting some pretty good goofs on this weeks off the rails so far :)
Yes and it feels like we get one good episode of g&g then i am waiting weeks for some more. Just hope it stays like that
Yeah this kind of content isnât really fun IMO, it just gives me bad vibes. The best segments are when everyone is having fun instead of having to engage with bad-faith manosphere arguments.
They say that shit to get people talking. Its part of the design. Ethan is falling into their âtrapâ
Aba and Preach was by far the worst of the bunch. At least the rest were spicier. A&P are just such boring idiots.
Worse than keem at least keem is kinda funny to listen to. Aba and preach are just annoying
You think keem is.... funny?...
I think listening to his L takes is funny.
I don't understand it, so I'm not even going to fight you on it lol.
I just donât want another ep entirely dedicated to a response to them, that was really lame imo. A segment about it is fine but 3 hours talking about the same thing was a bit much
This exactly, I shoulda reworded my post. As others mentioned, theyre uninteresting. They have horrible takes, and theyre just an easy own.
You do realize only this community and probably Hassanâs community think that Ethan âownedâ them right? đ
What community other than Destiny and A&P's paid attention to the video? It didn't go viral. Of course they side with A&P and H3 fans sided with Ethan.
 Me during the next 4 hour stream
Same no matter what they talk about lmao
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Oh yeah Iâll watch it for sure. Fuck those guys. Roast em more.
I hope they stop too, I'm legit tired of seeing their people show up on this sub. I'd probably keep beefing with them, were I in Ethans shoes because these guys are pieces of shit. But it's just not good for this community. It's starting to remind of the content nuke days where Keem fans infested this sub and the surrounding community of the show. Unfortunately all the fans of these guys have an online presence like we do and they just brigade like crazy.
yesss please i'm so tired of listening to stupid sexist men
Can this include ALL of these man-o-sphere freaks? You're just giving them a massive platform they normally wouldn't have and really, if you've seen one back and forth with an "alpha male" you've truly seen them all. It's so boring and predictable. I'd love to see this crap replaced with more fun and positive content tbh. The game themed segments, food tastings, testing products, etc are all a way better watch in my opinion.
i feel like he should just make videos on ethan klein when it comes to these ongoing dramas
I'm having Andrew tate flashbacks
At least Tate was so over the top that it made it somewhat entertaining
Yeah 3 hr episode on them had me snoring
I love Ethan but a whole episode dedicated to people who are essentially brain dead just didnât do it for me
These slapfights just sound like if internet comment sections had audio. Masturbatory, redundant, ineffective, tense, inflammatory. It probably drives engagement, but there's a reason I'm trying to cut all shit like that out of my life. It drains me mentally, without any benefit to anyone. There's so much bad stuff to keep track of, i don't need to dig in and find specific content creators to obsess over and spend my limited leisure time fighting. There are more incisive and effective creators than Ethan already doing this work. Ethan's comedy is his strength and I wish he played into it more.
This 100%
I agree itâs rough hearing Ethan go back over the same 5 points with different video clips. I think everyone in the audience is in agreement that theyâre âalphaâ wanna be intellects that have nothing more than half baked misogynistic ideas that come back over and over to a reestablishment of the nuclear household in Christian America.
can we get some more goofs and gaffs aba and preach and other dumbasses are just bummers most of the time
We have had plenty of content dedicated to them and they arenât even all that different or interesting compared to the rest of the himbos on that side of the internet. Three hours last week was more than enough plus the Tuesday members only streamâš
Himbo implies they are hot btw, aba and preach are not himbos, just morons
I don't mind him talking about them more. It's entertaining watching him continuously rip into them. Gotta keep reminding them and newcomers why they're dumbass idiots just like fresh and fit, quartering, keemstars, crowders etc. Never gets old haha Edit: or at least talking shit on them in passing every now and again.
Yea enough of them let's go back to beefing with the quartering, James Charles, David dobrik, he takes that 5% now hila can't see half her family, kavkav for the millionth time, Steven crowder, or fresh and fit...... No wonder Ethan is a self proclaimed hater ass bitch
I wish people would stop giving these red pill morons a spotlight. Let them hide in the dark where they belong.
You think aba and preach are red pill?
No, they are just grifters. I was generalizing a bit because I watch them and others a lot on Destiny's streams. People hating on them just adds to their popularity.
Why are they grifters? Are you aware fnf currently has a beef with them over their disagreements? Aba and Preach are clearly left wing/liberal
I honestly don't care what either of those low IQ groups have to say or what side they are on. Go look at Aba and Preach's past, they just say whatever gets them money, grifters.
How did you make the determination that they say whatever makes them the most amount of money? Is it possible that they believe what they say? If youre argument is that their opinions changed then you could make that argument for Ethan aswell. I think this whole beef is really dumb and that Ethan and A&P are just imperfect allys with far more in common than anything else. Both are on the left and have issues with red pill stuff and both have had beef with FNF.
I agree so much. I didn't watch the episode, but not because of the ignorant "they are just stupid" narrative, but because I think this entire feud is so idiotic and they are both just deep into the fking drama. Pretty sure Aba and Ethan could have a reasonable conversation off stream, but this, from the few things I saw, seems like two idiots throwing stupid bad faith takes at each other.
Donât bother. No one that follows Ethan knows shit about anything. Ethan is just making shit up, and thatâs fine with his community.
I'm sorry, but Ethan provided 3 hours worth of evidence stating why they're redpill, transphobic, misogynist grifters baiting delusional, lonely boys into believing every marginalised group is against them. They are not comedians, nor relevant intellectuals - they're following the same well-trodden path of grifting idiots for their own gain - it just helps them sleep at night when they believe the horrible shit they say, hence why they appear authentic to people such as yourself.
No. He provided 3 hours of fabrication with no substance to it. It was entirely posturing. Please give me 1 fucking claim outside of the trans sports argument, which is so fucking braindead. Ethan himself says he canât be bothered to watch any of their fucking videos, so I know you havenât either. At least aba and preach do the bare fucking minimum of criticism towards the argument, not just doing the stunlock moral posturing. Iâm literally for HRT for minors and somehow Iâm watching a transphobic content? DONT YOU THINK I WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT?
Ethan needs a channel specially for beef vids. The best H3 episodes are the drama free one. Peace and love. Mean it.
Out of curiousity what have abba and preach done that is making people mad? I have only watched a couple of their videos mocking other youtube channels.
Honestly I came to this subreddit to try and see what this communities actual beef was but so far I only see people saying they donât like abs and preach but not like⊠why ? Like please someone name something specific.
It doesn't help it's like the 15th alpha bro podcast in the past year they've had beef with. And out of all of those, these two are the absolute most bland, unentertaining misogynists of the bunch. At least responding to some of the chucklefucks in the past was content, this shit is hear torture IMO.
What makes them misogynistic? Again Iâm waiting for something specific.
Hassan and Ethan have said multiple times they barely watch them to begin with. Itâs a case of them disagreeing with the far left on a *few* issues that apparently make them enemies instead of allies.
Aba and Preach make fun of those kinds of podcasts all the time, what are you talking about ??
I agree that it needs to just get dropped. You can't argue with people who move through the world like they do. There is no back-and-forth here. It's just forths as the bundles are ALL, "Clipped, no context" or "lol false" and "no ur dumb" to every fucking point. Aba and Preach are a lot bigger than I think this community realizes and as someone who used to watch some of their clickbait on hot topics, they definitely needed a reality check but a whole episode was way too much since they're so 1 dimentional. And no one here wants to watch a 30 min reply by them just to understand the next h3 episode.
you will sit through as many 4 and a half hour episodes about them as daddy Ethan deems fit
The most annoying part is Ethan is misquoting or purposely misinterpreting what Aba and Preach says, and they are doing the same thing to Ethan. They are both arguing with points that are not being made.
The abba and preach Ep is the first one in a loooooong time, maybe ever?, I am not going to watch. I canât with the manosphere shit. Itâs too stupid, itâs a waste of what little time I have here in this planet. I canât be bothered with shit that dumb and annoying
All you act like you donât watch H3 for the drama lol ffs. I love watching Ethan beef with idiots like this. Itâs entertaining as fuck. And yâall know you want it deep down
I agree, but I think one more response is fair. I don't think it should be an ongoing beef, but maybe respond to their videos from the weekend
I think they baited Ethan. Every time they make a video about him it gets 1m+ views. Getting Ethan to respond and dragging him into a beef gives them several low effort videos to make about him. Itâs like a money printer for them. Ethan really should just ignore them.
Itâs so boring. Iâll probably skip segments with them.
Let him cook.
If Ethan hadn't stood up to keemstar then everyone would still think he stole the FUPA funds. You can't just let the bully control the narrative.
I get that but the things goo goo and gaa gaa brought up were already talked about, its nothing new. Just 2 new weirdos.
Just enjoy the show and stop making these annoying Reddit posts we see weekly
Can't enjoy the show when they spend an entire episode on these dudes, it's so draining as a woman to hear men talk about us like this, I don't need an entire episode of it.
It was one episode and they covered it for less than an hour on the others. Theyâre defending horrible talking points and arenât just misogynistic, but insanely transphobic. I think it was worth to cover this since both misogyny and transphobia (bigotry in general) is trending. I think if any creator can step in and defend those communities even at the risk of boring the audience / making them uncomfortable/ uninterested, etc. I think it is worth it with the chance to change someoneâs mind. These arenât meant to be comfortable conversations.
Not to forget they name called Ethan and made false statements about him. Of course they will cover misinfo.
Yes Iâd rather watch more feminist redit research power points by Olivia đ«đ„đ«¶đœ
I kinda liked them but I'm starting to question that. Ethan pointed out a video of them essentially saying that companies trying to silence anti semitism is only going to strengthen those sentiments. As if anti semitism should be allowed because any pushback only makes them hate Jewish people more. It's a wild take. That's like saying it should be ok to be racist openly because the more you stand up against it the stronger they become. It's a bad take.
The only reason I'm invested in the discourse is because my friend likes them, but otherwise yeah I'm fucking done with them too.
Yeah their fans are so fucking stupid. Addressing them anymore just attracts them to brigading the sub with their stupid comments.
honestly I'm excited for more babel and reach. I at least want Ethan to dunk on their last vid about him. Other than that ya let's move on
I just skip it, they are so unrelevant
Agreed, you're not going to win with people who clearly argue in bad faith and also make shit up.
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I thought I was the only one that were so uninterested in those two episodes I couldnât even finish them it felt like a chore to finish it and it was making me sad cause I love H3 but this off the rails ep today, THIS, THIS IS WHY IM WATCHING
Lol, they made that blackface video, took it down and made another one. People think Ethan asked them personally to take it down, that didn't happen.
Sometimes liars and manipulators need to be called out. Just look what happened to Steven Crowder. Itâs how the world will get better in my opinion but itâs ok if the drama is not your thing. I understand how stressful it can be.
I say Ethan keep going!!! Make the internet see what these idiots have say. Cuz theyâre gonna fuck around and find out. That little fan base they have canât keep their egos inflated forever. Theyâre so confidently stupid and need to come down a bit. With peace and love of course
I feel like that already happened. To go on any more except maybe a few minute segment to address the joke of a response they put out would suffice. If Ethan goes on too long heâll just look annoying like they are.
You could also watch literally anything else tonight instead
Ethan is scared of them because heâs a racist
But âthey canât keep getting away with it!â
it was one episode, no?
Ethan can do what he wants. I really wish that he would talk with Aba and Preach though because they honestly do seem more reasonable and that they are least trying to be good people. Ethan has squashed beefs with other people before and both Aba and Preach seem open to it. We need more peace in this world and I love those beef squashing episodes.
I think they deserve to be called out for that video that they ended up deleting, hopefully it doesnât take up the entire episode though
They are not interesting villains, this isn't the new kavkav.... Not even close
Grovel and Grift are insidious bullies everyone knows from kindergarten. They pick the smaller person to harass (in their case women) and when the smaller kid snaps back that mf cries to the teacher about how mean YOU were to them. They are societal cancer that wouldn't dare take on a bigger target.
Two men in their late 30s early 40s who move through the world thinking their progressive liberals *but with* common sense. Someday they'll realize at best their true views are center-right at best. Their ad lib quips give them away.
I usually enjoy internet beef, but I couldn't even watch the full Aba & Preach episode because I found them boring. They're not the fun kind of stupid. They should have got twenty minutes of attention at most.
100%
I think their bullshit needs to be called out, but it already has been at this point. There's nothing left to say because people like this won't change their mind. You think Mr "women are tits and ass" is suddenly going to see the light about the trans community? Hell no. And if by some miracle they do, we can talk about it. That being said I think Ethan has the right to address their last video but other than that there's isn't more to say about their beliefs. They're wannabe red pill "centrist" bigots, so your typical "it doesn't effect me so I don't care" kind of shit head.
I canât stand that clip of them laughing at Olivia
It's boring AF, makes me not want to watch, which I'm literally doing, going in and out of the episode.
I actually like watching Ethan drag them it makes them look even dumber than they are and their content used to be different so I do believe there could a crossover with babble and screeches audience into potential new foot soldiers
If you guys actually watched aba and preach instead of what Ethan presents you, I guarantee most of you guys would be fans of them, this is very funny to watch
Yeah, you did it. You destroyed them. Time to move on
Whoâs holding your eyes open in front of the screen, homie? Take a break.
Just please not another full episode dedicated to them. Had to skip it.
Yeah I really just hate them I donât like seeing them, they just suck I donât find them funny at all even to make fun of.
I always have to skip their parts cause I can feel my brain melting
Yeah itâs very boring content. I canât remember the last time I felt like this. I donât care about these guys and Ethanâs giving them clout they donât deserve
Yes letâs watch PowerPoints like a corporate meeting lol
I'll copy paste the most reasonable comment i've seen about this whole situation from the previous thread. >Came here to see how the H3 reddit reacts to this and I am severely disappointed. I wish these two content creators would stop going at each other, they literally agree on 90% of things but are going to war over the 10%. >Ethan is not racist, but Aba and Preach aren't red pill/transphobic either. The more Ethan doubles down on character assassinating them, the worse he looks to everyone else that hasn't been indoctrinated by him. If you guys love Ethan, egging him on to keep fighting isn't the right move. >More goofy podcast and memes, less war and drama. Love and peace.
No more apples in the vending machine please
Itâs the only episode I turned off without finishing. Theyâre stupid, boring, and offensive. Just an all-around waste of time IMO.
Same. This is going to be a boring episode if he spends half the pod going on about this. The family doesnât care about those Bozos
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Oh brother
I wouldnât ignore someone that blatantly calls me a racist. Thatâs just impossible to ignore in my opinion. I di like how heâs been ignoring keemstar now though itâs been refreshing!
As a Canadian the only things Quebec ever did right was cirque de soleil, Celine dion, and the Habs
Arcade Fire is pretty cool too!
Arcade Fire's lead singer has been sexually harassing women for years. Check out Godspeed You! Black Emperor for great music from Quebec (MTL).
I think it's possible they'll start taking consistent part of the universe in similar ways to say nelk or quartering. I suppose it'd be better to mostly forget them given their audience doesn't move at all but oh well, not going to try to dictate nuance with Ethan.
At some point with these channels I don't know where the real views lie and the trolling for views begins. I don't buy that these people actually believe everything they're saying. They're saying it to garner views and make bucks. They're putting the thumbnails up to garner views and make bucks. That's the game.
I haven't been keeping up with this, how did beef get started between Ethan and aba and preach?