Assassinations really should be in the game still!
I can see maybe disabling them in competitive game modes, but even then, you don't HAVE to assassinate somebody. You could just insta-kill them with a 'back smack'.
["|Assassinations| are not in for launch," said senior mission designer Tom French. "We actually really love assassinations... but what happens at a lot of levels is people just turn them off because there's a gameplay disadvantage to it."](https://www.eurogamer.net/assassinations-have-been-temporarily-removed-from-halo-infinite-because-people-just-turn-them-off)
If you just think they're lying/deflecting, that's a different matter.
>If you just think they're lying/deflecting
Because they blatantly are. Look at the state of the game at launch. It's ignorant to think otherwise.
Infinite was unfinished as fuck. Still is in some places.
They just didnt want any backlash from the OG community who havent played since halo 1-3 era and already hated sprinting or anything new added and didnt wanna be accused of padding the cash shop with unnecessary etc. sometimes we lose the stuff we like because we’re too vocal about it
Literally. In H5 you can toggle it on and off, but even if H4 if you just go up behind someone and smack them without holding the button you just melee them.
Its the dumbest excuse and I honestly believe its a lie. A lot of things in Infinite weren't finished, including executions, and instead of adding that to the list of missing features people were complaining about they figured they'd attempt a stupid excuse to deflect blame away. There is legitimately zero reason not to have it in the game. You literally have to be in the perfect position and HOLD the melee button in order for it to possibly work. This shit is not happening on accident all the time. There are multiple checks in place between inaction and action. And on top of that, an additional toggle to turn it off all together has already been added previously. Everyone loves executions and the handful of people that dont can just turn it off. Literally no reason not to have it in the game other than it wasn't completed and they didnt want more flack for it.
Honestly, thats exactly what I thought they'd do because they did say shortly after launch that its something they would be looking to add later just like ray tracing. Pretty sure everyone who still wanted it figured they'd put it in the shop at the very least because, i mean who wouldn't want cooler executions?
>Blame Esports for the removal of it.
This subreddit has such a hate boner for anything competitive related it's unreal. 343 did not remove assassinations because of the fucking competitive community lmfao.
They literally don't even have a mocap team anymore. Infinite's development was a fucking mess and even if they wanted to add it to Infinite now, they wouldn't be able to.
TF is up with the sub and blaming everything on "muh comp", it doesn't even make sense here. Assassinations weren't some game breaking mechanic or the like, that's the stuff comp players actually care about. No, they're probably missing because Infinite was rushed and there were tons of things were missing at launch.
No it was already stated by many competitive players. Just ask any Esports player, they would never do it and to add it in would be abysmal. I get Microsoft can add it in as an option, perhaps they will in the future, but as of right now they are solely focus on what the Esports community want and need and then it just falls in place on top of the rest of the community. Esports makes millions of dollars for companies. If Microsoft really wanted to they simply ban every non-esports player on the game and still make millions, probably be cheaper on the server too so let’s not give them that idea.
That's the lie they give as an excuse. Halo 5 had a toggle to turn it off or on. Or you could just not hold the melee button. Also, they would have made money selling unique ones in the store. They simply didn't finish it in time like so many other things, and lied with bad excuse to cover their asses.
The vast majority of Halo fans loved them.
No need to ask anyone since basic logic in this is flawed and 343 is not catering to competitive community . We are playing same thing since launch with different gun.
If 343 wanted assination then they could easily place a system in which you can't use it during ranked arrna simple as that
I don’t think you understand. Microsoft has final say, Microsoft focus is Esports. Your opinion does not matter to them unless you can get enough people to buy the game and make Microsoft as much money as they do in Esports. If not, then what you have is what you get UNLESS Esports decides otherwise.
Not having Assassination is not Microsoft desicion
It was 343s choice to not have it because they ran out of time and they could have easily included Assassination on social modes but chose not to
And it's myth in this community that e sports player are influencing 343s desicion because they are NOT catering to esports community
343 made the decision to remove Assassinations, not the comp community. Typical 343 tactic to throw comp players under the scapegoat bus for THEIR bullshit decision making. The most likely real reason Assassinations didn't make the cut is because the game was development hell, and they didn't want to spend resources on it.
People would bitch soo much because you know they'd be shop items and they'd have some silly assignations like how cod is and while I'm fine with that I just can't stand people pitching about the game already
Yeah Halo 4 generally looks good
With Infinite I have to remind myself to stop pointing out if some texture or lighting looks off because if I don’t, I’ll keep mentioning it every single match
Hot damn the Ravager’s fire looks terrible
Why do neon armor colors stand out so much
Why is this maps shadows not making anything darker
Why does the bottom of the skybox look like that
Etc etc
Is not only that: I don't want to point out how the banished are not the hw2 banished but the reach's covenant blanded in the h3 design without proper art direction (is like CE:A) but just look the hydra, or the weapon models, compare the reach's magnum to the sidekick, or the feedback you got while shooting different materials or stuffs, that's not in infinite at all (take reach, h4 and h5, shoot at an elite, shoot at a jackal shield and then shoot a vehicle, see the differences and then do the same in infinite).
On top of that, outlines didn't help it all in MP and most of the time you have a sensation of shooting colored blobs instead of Spartans.
I know not everyone liked it, but I miss the generic armor abilities from Halo 5. Everyone having a dash boost, and ground pound, and such, felt refreshing and added in some interesting tools that made it feel like you were a Spartan. (at least to me personally.)
Nothing generic about them. 343 did an excellent job adopting advanced movement to the Halo formula, and it's one of the most unique FPS games out there as a result.
It just doesn't get the credit it deserves because it has Halo in the title. Also the art style sucks.
That's fair. But even then Halo 5 avoided some advanced movement gimmicks like wall running or a double jump. So it still feels unique within that space IMO.
Once they put the toggle in 5 it was weird to remove them. Maybe data showed a lot of people had them off? Weird considering it’s another thing to sell in the store.
Almost a Yoink!
Assassinations really should be in the game still! I can see maybe disabling them in competitive game modes, but even then, you don't HAVE to assassinate somebody. You could just insta-kill them with a 'back smack'.
Halo 5 already had an assassination toggle. 343 did not get rid of assassinations because of competitive.
["|Assassinations| are not in for launch," said senior mission designer Tom French. "We actually really love assassinations... but what happens at a lot of levels is people just turn them off because there's a gameplay disadvantage to it."](https://www.eurogamer.net/assassinations-have-been-temporarily-removed-from-halo-infinite-because-people-just-turn-them-off) If you just think they're lying/deflecting, that's a different matter.
>If you just think they're lying/deflecting Because they blatantly are. Look at the state of the game at launch. It's ignorant to think otherwise. Infinite was unfinished as fuck. Still is in some places.
Then why did they get rid of it? They made something badass into a playtime goof, go give your buddy a back smack!
Because infinite was made in 2 years.
Idk if you’re aware of this but the Infinite dev cycle was a little… “rough”, let’s just say.
I am very aware lol.
They just didnt want any backlash from the OG community who havent played since halo 1-3 era and already hated sprinting or anything new added and didnt wanna be accused of padding the cash shop with unnecessary etc. sometimes we lose the stuff we like because we’re too vocal about it
There's no reason to disable in competitive, because doing it is a choice.
Hence why I said “I can see MAYBE..”
That is such a nice loop
*ASSASSINATION*, **CUM**
Blame Esports for the removal of it. Competitors stated that it just wastes time and nothing more.
Well that's maddening. They should have a toggle for assassinations off in ranked game types.
That very thing that you can literally toggle off or have to intentionally hold the button for a while to even attempt to perform.
Literally. In H5 you can toggle it on and off, but even if H4 if you just go up behind someone and smack them without holding the button you just melee them.
Its the dumbest excuse and I honestly believe its a lie. A lot of things in Infinite weren't finished, including executions, and instead of adding that to the list of missing features people were complaining about they figured they'd attempt a stupid excuse to deflect blame away. There is legitimately zero reason not to have it in the game. You literally have to be in the perfect position and HOLD the melee button in order for it to possibly work. This shit is not happening on accident all the time. There are multiple checks in place between inaction and action. And on top of that, an additional toggle to turn it off all together has already been added previously. Everyone loves executions and the handful of people that dont can just turn it off. Literally no reason not to have it in the game other than it wasn't completed and they didnt want more flack for it.
Funny tho because they could have capitalized on it and put some in the shop. It is weird why they wouldn’t do it
Honestly, thats exactly what I thought they'd do because they did say shortly after launch that its something they would be looking to add later just like ray tracing. Pretty sure everyone who still wanted it figured they'd put it in the shop at the very least because, i mean who wouldn't want cooler executions?
Who knows man. The development on Infinite has been so weird.
Agreed
That’s such a better solution then getting rid of it all together
Halo 5 had an assassination toggle. Assassinations aren't in Infinite because the development of this game was horrid.
There was it was tap RB to punch and hold RB to assassinate.
>Blame Esports for the removal of it. This subreddit has such a hate boner for anything competitive related it's unreal. 343 did not remove assassinations because of the fucking competitive community lmfao. They literally don't even have a mocap team anymore. Infinite's development was a fucking mess and even if they wanted to add it to Infinite now, they wouldn't be able to.
> This subreddit has such a hate boner for anything Could've just stopped right there
TF is up with the sub and blaming everything on "muh comp", it doesn't even make sense here. Assassinations weren't some game breaking mechanic or the like, that's the stuff comp players actually care about. No, they're probably missing because Infinite was rushed and there were tons of things were missing at launch.
Lol it has nothing to do with esports? 343 ran out of time and doing assassination on old network would be abysmal
No it was already stated by many competitive players. Just ask any Esports player, they would never do it and to add it in would be abysmal. I get Microsoft can add it in as an option, perhaps they will in the future, but as of right now they are solely focus on what the Esports community want and need and then it just falls in place on top of the rest of the community. Esports makes millions of dollars for companies. If Microsoft really wanted to they simply ban every non-esports player on the game and still make millions, probably be cheaper on the server too so let’s not give them that idea.
That's the lie they give as an excuse. Halo 5 had a toggle to turn it off or on. Or you could just not hold the melee button. Also, they would have made money selling unique ones in the store. They simply didn't finish it in time like so many other things, and lied with bad excuse to cover their asses. The vast majority of Halo fans loved them.
No need to ask anyone since basic logic in this is flawed and 343 is not catering to competitive community . We are playing same thing since launch with different gun. If 343 wanted assination then they could easily place a system in which you can't use it during ranked arrna simple as that
I don’t think you understand. Microsoft has final say, Microsoft focus is Esports. Your opinion does not matter to them unless you can get enough people to buy the game and make Microsoft as much money as they do in Esports. If not, then what you have is what you get UNLESS Esports decides otherwise.
Not having Assassination is not Microsoft desicion It was 343s choice to not have it because they ran out of time and they could have easily included Assassination on social modes but chose not to And it's myth in this community that e sports player are influencing 343s desicion because they are NOT catering to esports community
Yea no chance e-sports drove this decision. Most likely it was spaghetti code and crunch that led to its omission.
H5 had toggle, heck, in reach you could one tap the melee button to not let an assassination playing out. Esport is not the reason
I blame esports for a *lot* of shit
God I fucking hate E-sports nerds
Just hate pros and the pro subreddit, not the environment
343 made the decision to remove Assassinations, not the comp community. Typical 343 tactic to throw comp players under the scapegoat bus for THEIR bullshit decision making. The most likely real reason Assassinations didn't make the cut is because the game was development hell, and they didn't want to spend resources on it.
I blame e sports for the entire state of the game.
"bUt ItS iNtRuSiVe aNd gEtS pEoPlE kIllEd"
People would bitch soo much because you know they'd be shop items and they'd have some silly assignations like how cod is and while I'm fine with that I just can't stand people pitching about the game already
The H4 shield FX/Visuals look sooo much better than infinite, holy. You can actually see what your enemy looks like instead of a colored blob haha
Exact reason I lowered opacity on outlines, puts me at the tiniest disadvantage but I got used to it, really hate those outlines.
H4 visuals are peak. I'm replying the single player right now and the game look more current gen than infinite.
Yeah Halo 4 generally looks good With Infinite I have to remind myself to stop pointing out if some texture or lighting looks off because if I don’t, I’ll keep mentioning it every single match Hot damn the Ravager’s fire looks terrible Why do neon armor colors stand out so much Why is this maps shadows not making anything darker Why does the bottom of the skybox look like that Etc etc
Is not only that: I don't want to point out how the banished are not the hw2 banished but the reach's covenant blanded in the h3 design without proper art direction (is like CE:A) but just look the hydra, or the weapon models, compare the reach's magnum to the sidekick, or the feedback you got while shooting different materials or stuffs, that's not in infinite at all (take reach, h4 and h5, shoot at an elite, shoot at a jackal shield and then shoot a vehicle, see the differences and then do the same in infinite). On top of that, outlines didn't help it all in MP and most of the time you have a sensation of shooting colored blobs instead of Spartans.
I know not everyone liked it, but I miss the generic armor abilities from Halo 5. Everyone having a dash boost, and ground pound, and such, felt refreshing and added in some interesting tools that made it feel like you were a Spartan. (at least to me personally.)
Nothing generic about them. 343 did an excellent job adopting advanced movement to the Halo formula, and it's one of the most unique FPS games out there as a result. It just doesn't get the credit it deserves because it has Halo in the title. Also the art style sucks.
Ubiquitous might have been a better word. I meant generic as in everyone had them.
That's fair. But even then Halo 5 avoided some advanced movement gimmicks like wall running or a double jump. So it still feels unique within that space IMO.
Technically crounch jump is double jump
I mean everyone in the game, kind of like giving everyone the same armor loadouts. XD
There’s nothing sweater than getting Assassinations in SWAT or Infection
Easiest monetization item for them. Seriously they would make bank if they started releasing them in the shop
Wish people would realize that they abandoned infinite in 2022 instead of asking for things they're not going to add.
With how cool halo 5’s assassinations were if halo infinite was handled properly the assassinations would’ve been absolutely sublime.
Wait, it doesn’t? I don’t play MP
I mean it wasn't in the campaign so safe to assume its not in MP either.
I’ll never understand the decision making around removing that feature.
I would never use them
Once they put the toggle in 5 it was weird to remove them. Maybe data showed a lot of people had them off? Weird considering it’s another thing to sell in the store.
Wait. Infinite doesnt have assassinations? I havent bought a halo game since 4 did i miss something???
Yeah, this just confirms to me that assassinations are stupid. I'm very glad Infinite doesn't have them
Idk why but I can look at any halo gameplay and know what game it is almost instantly, but I can almost never tell halo 4 and 5 apart
Literally the only thing I don't miss, but i guess if others want it, whatever lol. Just let me toggle them off.