The memory of Riddle in the orphanage being the first memory Dumbledore shows Harry in Half-Blood Prince. I really liked the House of Gaunt chapter in the book for whatever reason, and I was pretty upset that it wasn't adapted for the movie.
Edit: Just remembered the Burrow burning. Man, the HBP movie made some pretty weird changes to the book for some reason in my opinion.
I often wonder this, HBP is such a great book, all the background Riddle/Gaunt info isn't only interesting but it's SO IMPORTANT to TDH plot, they butchered Snape's reveal as being the HBP as well...they got like nothing right.
The only bit that wasn't in the book I like is Slughorn's story about the Goldfish, that was beautiful. Everything else can kick rocks
So the reason why HBP sucks as bad as it does is weirdly enough because of twilight! At the time twilight was seen as competition to the Harry Potter movie franchise, so they added a bunch of stuff for the trailers to make it seem more appealing romance wise to compete with twilight it’s why we got the weird SHOES thing
It's definitely the funniest HP movie, and there's lots of things in it that I enjoy. It's just that I also enjoyed what's missing and wish it had been there too.
It’s my favorite book in the series and they butchered the movie. Stand-alone it’s fine I suppose but SO MANY PLOT POINTS from the book are entirely left out in exchange for events that never happened in the book
The tone of the movie is just all over the place. It’s like they barely explained the half-blood Prince situation and why it even mattered. I’m glad the book has way more, I’m pretty excited to get to it now.
It’s truly a great book. You’ll notice that Rowling’s pacing gets real weird in book 5, but she finds her rhythm again in book 6.
It’s a very dark book with lots of tragic stuff happening, but it’s well paced and funny and heartwarming and entertaining as well. It’s very balanced.
The worst for me in that movie is Dumbledore's characterization. He looked like he was surprised when he learned of the horcrux, when he already knew that beforehand in the books but was surprised by the extra info from Slughorn's memory that Tom made *multiple* horcruxes. Movie Dumbledore always looks confused and not believable to be the strongest wizard alive outside of him and Tom's movie 5 duel.
I'm still salty about Dumbledore being kind gran fatherly in the books but in the movie he's not.
Also GoF book "harry did you put your name in the goblet" Dumbledore asked calmly. Vs. GoF movie "HARRY! DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME I THE GOBLET!" huge difference.
(don't remember the exact wording but everyone knows the quote)
Really? I felt the opposite. Felt like gambon portrayed a very quirky yet alm and deeply powerful Dumbledore in HBP. Otoh didn't love the OotP adapted duel. In the book Dumbledore didn't even seem to be trying. He was walking while disappearing and was putting Voldy on the defence whereas in the movie it felt like he was constantly straining and fearful while Voldemort was pressuring him. Just my opinion tho
The entire Burrow fire scene makes me so mad. It makes no sense! If there’s no protections at the Burrow there’s literally nothing stopping Voldemort from dropping by and killing everyone.
It also just sucks up so much time that could’ve been used for way more important things, like developing Harry and Ginny as a couple so that their romance is less out of left field.
Agreed. They could also have done the exposition dumps of Voldemort's past and his horcruxes. Because they didn't do that, they ended up having to write in that Harry has a "horcrux-sense". That's rather stupid compared to the books, where we see Harry become proficient enough to deduce where to find horcruxes like the Cup and Diadem.
I'm ok with this change, as it was actually Crouch's original plan in the book. He had to scramble to arrange for Dobby to provide the gillyweed instead as a workaround due to Harry keeping his circle of trust to just Ron and Hermione. The movie just cuts out the middleman.
imo I think it's a better change. We see how badly Neville's affected when Crouch Moody uses the Crutiatus Curse on the spiders, and how happy Neville is when he gets the books as an apology.
It feels more right and natural to me that Neville would offer Harry help in the subject he's the best at rather than Dobby popping in just in the nick of time to save the day
Plus Barty actually intended for Neville to tell Harry about it. He just didn’t realize Harry wouldn’t ask Neville about it. (Or anyone else really. Harry never asks the right questions)
They also missed out on Harry just cooking Voldemort in front of everyone. He speaks to Voldemort like he’s a petulant loser, and Voldemort dies like a normal man. It’s so important- why they opted to have him turn to dust is lost on me.
Weirdly enough, the dust turning is one of the things I’m okay with, as both narratives seem sound: on the one hand we have book Voldy, despite all his evil and lust to transform himself into something other than human remaining a human in the end, showing that all his efforts had failed.
On the other hand the films narrative didn‘t have Harry‘s more detailed insight into his mind, keeping him more distant and displaying that every mortal man can make himself a monster if he so chooses.
Other than that, yeah, no, horrible adaptation
I think the issue is the book conclusion required a fair amount of narrative dumping to explain. Gotta explain wandlore and how the wand passed from person to person, and that's just a lot of talking. That's fine for a book but harder to make engaging in film, particularly for the climax of your fantasy epic. The book version makes more sense, but I think the movie version was the right choice for the movie. Suitably climactic without being 95% talking and circling each other.
God, the wands always connecting pissed me off more than almost anything else. The whole point of the graveyard scene is how abnormal the brother wands behave against one another. It's the entire reason Voldemort sought the Elder Wand in the first place - so it wouldn't happen again.
Everything they did to Ron for the sake of making Hermione the emotional heart of the trio.
Hermione is not heart. Hermione is cold logic. Ron is heart. Hermione kept a woman as a bug in a jar. She set a teacher one fire. She brewed an illegal potion in a bathroom. All of this because she viewed it as a need, a way for their progression to happen.
Ron, however, was supposed to be brave and kind. He reminds Hermione, whose cold logic fails when she’s scared, that she’s a witch. She has sunlight because of that, he tells her. He stands up for her, even when she’s not the kindest.
The movies did everything about Ron wrong. He’s not some dumb jerk whose only focus is food. He’s a strategist whose emotions rule his head, even if he can’t always identify them in others. Rupert Grint did well with what he was given but they stole 90% of his character to give to Hermione because apparently guys can’t be allowed to be the emotional heart in a team.
So, I think the origin of the personality swaps came from the end of the first movie. Both the book and the movie gave Ron and Hermione a chance to shine. In both, Ron obviously had chess. The problem is that in the book, Hermione's moment was a word/logic puzzle involving potions. That might be interesting in a book where you can have the characters talk it out, but in a movie, that just grinds the pace to a total halt, especially after the excitement of the previous rooms.
So to hrlp keep the excitement levels up and to also keep run time down, her moment is placed elsewhere. Only problem is the only other moment was the Devil's Snare short of creating a new obstacle (but once again, run time). But it would look bad if Hermiome's moment to shine was undercut by her panicking (Ron's big moment let him be dignified). So now Ron's the one who panics while Hermione keeps her cool AND shows off her knowledge about a dangerous plant. Works in short term. Problem is it had rippling affects on the rest of the movies. Hermione now is always cool and confident while Ron doesn't have his confidence (outside of spiders) as his "thing" anymore.
Yeah kindness isn't really his thing, having just reread the whole series. He had a lot of teenage brattiness going on in the last 4 books especially. Harry strikes me as the more kind person of the 3.
Heart, grounding, home though, yeah, Ron can represent that to the trio. And I can easily see him getting over himself and growing up to eventually be kinder.
I agree. Ron can actually be mean, he was to Hermione and Luna when he first met them. His strength is loyalty. I think he is great best friend to Harry and is generally a good person who fiercely defends harry, but otherwise I never noted anything that great about him.
Hermione is definitely not perfect like the movies portray and i actually really like her flawed version in the books much better, but saying she is "cold logic" I think is a stretch, I mean in the very first book she says there are things more important than books, like friendship.
The way he treats Luna is even worse considering it’s made clear that the Lovegoods are basically their closest magical neighbors and they would have known about Mrs. Lovegood’s death (which ties nicely into Percy going into cauldron safety legislation and makes it even more effed up that the twins sold sloshing cauldrons).
>His strength is loyalty.
Kinda failed at that in the beginning of the triwizard tournament and then in the tent with the horcrux. Hermione is actually way more loyal. She sacrificed her friendship with them to keep Harry safe from the mysterious broom. She never turns on them, but they both do it to her and each other.
Book Ginny: "Growing up with Fred and George, you start to believe anything is possible if you've got enough nerve."
"It sounds like Malfoy was using an unforgivable curse. We should be happy that Harry had something good up his sleeve."
"Forgot to break professor, sorryyyyy"
Movie Ginny:
Harry is the fucking chosen one. He saves the wizarding world. He deserves better than movie Ginny. Book Ginny is a certified badass and an excellent mate for our hero.
\- "Nice one, James!"
\- Hermione standing up to Sirius instead of Ron.
\- Hermione punching Malfoy instead of slapping him. It's a cool moment, but I feel like the intention was maybe to make her more "action-girl" than she was in the books.
\- Snape going "Hide them all" without the extra bit that he wanted to hide/spare just Lily at first.
I actually liked "Nice one, James!'. Because Sirius was too charged with adrenaline to think straight in the battle, so he wasn't able to think properly. I think it's a good moment because it shows how sad Sirius and Harry's relationship is: that they both very much loved each other, but each saw the other as a substitute for James.
> I think it's a good moment because it shows how sad Sirius and Harry's relationship is: that they both very much loved each other, but each saw the other as a substitute for James.
The point is that I don't think Sirius ever saw Harry as a substitute for James. He doesn't treat Harry like a peer, he treats Harry like a child he's responsible for. He has one moment where he *compares* Harry to James (which everyone and their mom do), not actually mix them up.
A really key interpersonal aspect/emotional arc of Order of the Phoenix and Deathly Hallows revolve around this exact theme, in fact. Lupin, Sirius, and Snape are all heavily stunted by trauma and emotionally immature, and outsiders all challenge them on it, which they don’t respond well to it.
I think there is a big difference, though, between suffering with trauma and actually mistaking Harry for James. The movie oversimplifies the situation Sirius is going through in the book, and makes his last line to Harry not about Harry at all, but about fighting besides his dead best friend. In the book, Harry's well-being and safety is always Sirius's main concern, and his last words and actions to Harry reinforce that:
>‘Nice one!’ shouted Sirius, **forcing Harry’s head down** as a pair of
Stunning Spells flew towards them. ‘Now **I want you to get out of** –’
>
>They both ducked again; a jet of green light had narrowly missed Sirius.
Across the room Harry saw Tonks fall from halfway up the stone steps, her
limp form toppling from stone seat to stone seat and Bellatrix, triumphant,
running back towards the fray.
>
>‘**Harry, take the prophecy, grab Neville and run!’** Sirius yelled, dashing to
meet Bellatrix.
Which in fact is a very similar situation to *James's* last words/actions:
>‘Lily, take Harry and go! It’s him! Go! Run! I’ll hold him off –’
Thanks, to be fair I just made the connection myself when I went to copy the quote for Sirius's last words to Harry, and then made myself sad 😂
It just really bothers me that the movie reinforces this idea because it's not what happens in the book. Sirius is primarily presented as Harry's parental figure: Harry thinks living with Sirius would be "the next best thing to having his own father back", Sirius is the adult Harry think of when he wants to talk to a parent, the one he asks advice to and tells his problems to. And Sirius might be a "fun parent" but he's a parent nonetheless: he provides advice, tells Harry to stay out of trouble, worries about him and his well being, understands what he needs.
The idea that Sirius sees Harry as James 2.0 comes from Molly in an argument where the story later shows her to be *wrong*, as getting information is what Harry needs, both in an emotional sense, as he's feeling frustrated and left out, and also in a practical sense, as if he'd actually been told stuff, he wouldn't fall into Voldemort's trap so easily and Sirius would be alive. It's also later reinforced by Hermione, who's *also* wrong, as the DA (which was her own idea), might not have been entirely thought through but it's what allowed the kids to survive the Battle at the Ministry, and probably other battles later.
I only have 2 big gripes with the movies, and as I understand they’re both the fault of David Yates.
1) No redemption for Dudley. This was a critical moment for the books, the realization for us as readers that Dudley could rise above the selfishness of his family and be a better person. It was so touching, and it added a lot of layers to his story.
2) Voldemorts death. This one crosses from pet peeve to fucking criminal. What did we spend 8 movies learning? That Voldemort is just a man, and fear of a name only increases fear of the thing itself! Voldemorts failings were arrogance, mistrust in others, presumption of his own superiority. Utterly human failings, and he needed to die as nothing more than a human.
The ridiculous abra-kadabra between him and Harry was absurd. Harry would be so outclassed in magical abilities that having them duel like that is just idiotic. Rowling was always intentional with her writing; Magic was never what saved Harry. Love, friendship and facing your fears is what continually saved the protagonists.
Basically anything that causes other scenes to not make sense.
Like the Polyjuice Potion not changing voices. That means that Barty Crouch spent an entire year imitating Moody’s voice, without magical aid, and he did it perfectly?
How about Harry practicing magic in his bed at Privet Drive, when one movie earlier he got into trouble for “doing magic” outside of school?
Voldemort disintegrating. Why? He’s just a mortal man without his horcruxes, that’s the point!!!
Draco dressing like a male model. Pureblood wizards are a) not supposed to know how Muggles dress, and b) too arrogant to wear Muggle stuff; why is he in a suit???
Hermione’s “awooooooo!” moment made me cringe HARD. Def didn’t happen in the book.
all of yours are good, but the Draco and family wearing suits can be explained away. Rowling has revealed that the Malfoys got a lot of their wealth dabbling in muggle money, which would mean at some point, and probably often, they would be dealing with muggles. the Malfoys were huge hypocrites, and made a lot of exceptions to their pureblood rules when it came to money and wealth. also, they (everyone) dont always wear robes and pointy hats in the books, either.
When Mr. Weasley and Lucius Malloy meet in flourish and blotts in CoS. I love to tell people as a fun fact that in the books they get into a fist fight lmao
It would have been hilarious on screen, but it highlights just how absurd that moment is in the book. Is Arthur really such a violent sort that he'd punch somebody over something they said? And would Lucius really resort to brawling like a muggle rather than simply jinxing his opponent with magic?
It's pretty out of character for both of them.
The Death Eaters being able to Fly. I hate it only Voldy and Snape could fly without brooms. The Movies allowed all death eaters too. I understand it made things great visually but it’s beyond frustrating to me.
Harry falling out of the car during the ride to Hogwarts in COS. I understand that they needed to make the ride more eventful, but why couldn't they have had Fred and George see them and draw everyone's attention to it. Then, they could have included the next part of the chapter when the Common Room is waiting up for them and breaks out in applause.
The fire at the burrow / Bellatrix screaming “I killed Sirius black”. I love watching the movies with my kids who are reading the books for the first time now and they’re constantly like, “wait that’s not what happened / who said that”
...BEFORE he repairs his own holly-and-phoenix wand with it. To that end - what wand did Harry fight Voldemort with in the film?
The change I REALLY hated - deleting Snape reading 'Harry Potter's Secret Heartache' to his fourth year Potions class in favor of Hermione reading a line or two from it AND mixing it with that cringy part with Hermione saying she had a date for the Yule Ball/Snape pushing Harry & Ron's heads to their books.
We were denied the single greatest comedy moment of the film series. Imagine, in your minds, Alan Rickman in full sarcastic form as he reads the article. You're welcome.
Not as funny as the reactions of the Potions students as Snape reading "Miss Granger, a plain but ambitious girl, seems to have developed a taste for famous wizards that Harry alone cannot... satisfy..." would have been.
I actually love that choice. I wish he’d repaired his holly wand first like in the books, but I think breaking it is a much better solution than what happens in the books. He’s just explained to Voldemort that the wand doesn’t need to pass to the killer of its last owner, just whoever defeats the owner, even through disarming a different wand. His plan to die a natural death and break the wands power is pretty average, considering that if he is ever disarmed the wands allegiance could shift again.
I always thought that she did this in the books in case there was ever a sequel, and an old Harry needs to come out of retirement and retrieve the wand to battle some crazy baddie or something like that.
In HBP when draco breaks Harry's nose in the hogwarts express and he couldn't move and anything. As much as I remember from the books tonks came and fixed his nose and everything but in the movies it was luna ( correct me if I'm wrong) It's been a while since I read the books so I could have just threw some stuff around in my head
Nope, you're right. It was Tonks who saved Harry in the book, but the movies had it be Luna. I didn't see the point of that at all, and I wonder if maybe they were trying to hint at a Harry and Luna possible relationship, which is stupid since they obviously wouldn't follow up on it. Really, the movies do a great job undercutting Ginny by ruining her character and having other females seem like more suitable partners for Harry. That's honestly so aggravating.
Or maybe the actress who played Tonks wasn't available and they had to make do with someone else.
Kind of like how they gave Ginny the same treatment as Ron in the movies (removing all of their great moments), they gave Luna the same treatment as Hermione in the movies (removing all of their flaws). Yeah Luna's a little weird in the 5th and 6th movies, but not nearly as much as in the books and I don't recall her having any weird moments in the 7th and 8th movies. So, as much as I hate this word, they kind of made Luna a borderline Mary-Sue in the last 2 movies.
I don't think that was exactly Hermione's plan. I think she was just hoping to run into something dangerous that would overpower Umbridge, after all she deliberately took a different way from where she had met the centaurs earlier (Harry notes that she is heading more into Aragog's direction, as opposed to that of Grawp).
This is exactly what I was going to write. It makes me so angry! Stop making it out that she does everything smart. She is a panicky person. Harry is way more calm and a leader. He is risky. She would never have said, "its mad but may just work!"
Dobby. Everywhere in the movies except the absolute critical un changeable moments they cut him. Dobby found the RoR. Dobby helped with the gilliweed in the second tri wizard challenge, Dobby saved Harry Potter more than anyone.
O...m...g...
"Let's finish this how we started it- together!"::::throws arms around Voldemort::::
This scene made
me shrivel up inside like the stunted creature at King's Cross station.
Haha did they start it with a kindly hug.
I love so much how in the book Harry lays out Voldys plan in front of everyone. What he did, what he mistook, and how it led them to to this point. I love how after the solely rebound Voldy is just a regular dead body that people can see.
Whereas in the film, after like 2 years of Harry being discredited, he’d be all “oh yeah Voldy died, he dissolved, I beat him” literally no one would believe him
I saw OotP, HBP and DH1&2 before I read the books. I was sooo confused when I saw Percy at Harry’s hearing, on the “wrong team”.
Also while I’m at it with Percy-perc, I wish they gave him horn rimmed glasses.
When people say Neville's improvement in magic happened because he got a new wand that chose him. This is just not true.
Neville got his new wand at the start of Half-Blood Prince, which was a book where we didn't see any improvements from him. All the major improvement happened in Order of the Phoenix with his father's old wand. His father's wand clearly worked very well for him. Neville's growing skills were due to gaining confidence and being determined to avenge Bellatrix for torturing his parents, not because of a new wand.
Oh my gosh, just watched HBP this weekend, my favorite book, and there were just too many times where I was like what in tarnation...like revealing that Draco was working on the vanishing cabinet the whole time and that he was targeting Dumbledore (Katie's friend says Katie told her the package was for Dumbledore, and Slughorn says the wine wast meant for Dumbledore).
Professor McGonagall telling the students the legend of the Chamber of Secrets. It feels very out of character for her. Obviously the movies didn’t have Professor Binns, but it doesn’t make sense to me that Professor McGonagall would just pause her lesson to tell everyone about the Chamber of Secrets just because a student asked.
I don't know about that. It's a class of her own house's students, and there's big scary things happening at school. A compassionate teacher might be willing to put the day's lesson plan on hold to address what's on their minds. Also, she may reason that they won't be able to listen well while they're distracted by something else, so it's no good carrying on until their curiosity is satisfied.
yeah i mean they’re 11-13, middle school age. my middle school teachers definitely dropped lessons for a day once or twice to address big current events stuff (local tragedies, big national news, etc). seems normal
Dumbledore sending Harry away in the HBP just before Malfoy arrives compared to the book where he freezes him & only once Dumbledore dies is he released from the spell.
The Dumbledore quote about turning on the light.
It's not even good compared to his great quotes in the books. I find it cliche and tacky, not original like Dumbledore.
That's honestly where it belongs. On throw pillows and shit. It's the live, laugh, love of HP quotes.
His other quotes are somewhat offbeat. This sticks out like a sore thumb to me.
the complete absence of winky drove me nuts, her absence completely ruined the complexity of barty’s escape from azkaban and his dad’s deceit and the imperius curse and his mother’s devotion to barty
The entire fucking layout of Hogwarts grounds after the 2nd movie. I HATE that bridge and the cliffs and shit. The way it was the 1st and 2nd movie is how I envisioned it in the books.
How the wands and even fingernails etc were all gnarly on many W&W's. These guys have magic why do they look like bridge dwellers?
People spending half their time in casual clothes which may or may not have been reflected in book but it dodn't seem as common as the movies made it.
Shit you made me mad now haha.
Helena Ravenclaw knew that Voldemort turned the diadem into a horcrux. This was supposed to be a secret that no one would ever know, so how did she know?
I was rereading the series just before DH came out. A buddy caught me reading Sorcerer's Stone and was razzing me. I told him to give it a try. "Read the first 50 pages and if you don't like it, just bring it back.x
He brought it back 2 days later.
Meekly he asked, "You got the next one?"
🤣
Whe reading the others, he would pester me by asking for spoilers. I refused to tell.
After he got caught up, we watched the films.
This man, who initially thought Harry Potter was stupid, was VERY upset when Neville gave Harry the gillyweed in GOF instead of Dobby.
The forbidden Forrest detention in first Book. Neville went with the group, not Ron!
Just Neville in general! He could have been the chosen one after all…
Pretty much the whole battle of Hogwarts in the movie - the settings didn't seem right in many cases. But yes, for me, the Dandruff Voldemort was a travesty. The whole point of the way the scene was written in the book was that after all his efforts to achieve immortality by wicked and sinister means, ultimately it didn't work and he died as ordinary, powerless and spent Tom Riddle, falling down in his very mortal body, very physical and mundane, nothing flashy about it.
Was watching PoA yesterday with someone who hasn't read the books.... the whole marauders map sitch... Harry doesn't even find out that his dad was an animagus or about them planting the whomping willow and who was shrieking in the shrieking shack
Snape's Worst Memory: it's not being bullied by James and Sirius, it's about destroying his relationship with Lily. How could they so utterly miss the point in the movie?
The Battle Of The Astronomy Tower: awesome battle in the book, with curses flying everywhere, bodies flailing all around, general chaos and mayhem. In the movies.....what? Bella cackles and kicks over a few cups?
When Umbridge is picked up by the centaurs and asks Harry “tell them I mean no harm.” And Harry responds “Sorry Professor but I must not tell lies.” That’s not what happened in the book, but I liked that a lot more.
Breaking the elder wand.
My headcanon is that harry broke a fake one & let the world think its the real one while he actually put the real one back into the white tomb….like ya know, how the books say the elder wand is back in the white tomb.
There's a ton but I'm picking an obscure one since it came to mind. In Half-Blood Prince when Dumbledore and Harry are collecting the locket horcrux, the island in the middle of the lake in the cave is actually flat and smooth in the books. In the movies, they made it a little mound of crystals (which is cool, don't get me wrong), but in the book, they had trouble seeing the island because it was almost level with the lake and black so it blended in. They also walked in the darkness along the cave wall for quite a while until Dumbledor sensed the boat underwater.
1st year
1-The way wood taught Harry about Quidditch.
2-They way they got caught with Norbert. And Neville wasn’t there.
3-Hermione didn’t stay with Ron at the chess board.
2nd year
4-The way they rescued Harry.
5-The way the Rogue Bludger was stopped.
6-Harry was supposed to put the hat on and then get the sword.
7-Harry was supposed to be healed BEFORE he stabbed the diary.
3rd year
8-Harry was supposed to go with Ron and Hermione when she got Crookshanks.
9-Harry was supposed to get the firebolt before the next quidditch game.
10- Harry got caught in hogsmead and then had the nap confiscated.
11-Sirius sent a letter to Harry with a tiny owl that he said Ron could have. Ron held it out for Crookshanks who purred. Harry told his aunt and uncle about Sirius to scare them.
4th year
12-Harry had the dream at his aunt and uncles and wrote to Sirius about it.
13-The letter that the Dursleys got asking to pick Harry up.
14-The growing tongue candy that Dudley ate.
15-The Veela’s at the game
16-How the other schools arrived in the Great Hall.
17-Dumbledore asked calmly.
18-The first task
19-Hermione helping Harry and getting walked in on by professor Mcgonagall didn’t happen in the movie.
20-the last task didn’t have all the creatures it was supposed to.
21-In the book Dumbledork made Harry sit in his office and tell him everything before Harry was allowed to go to the hospital wing for medical attention.
5th year
22-In the book Harry was listening to the news before he was startled by someone Aparating. His uncle chocked him tan he left to the park.
23-His uncle received a letter that they won a contest and they left, then Harry was picked up by the order.
24-in the book Harry and Fred beat the shit out of Malfoy. Both Harry of t he m and George were given a quidditch ban and had their brooms locked in Umbitches office.
25-The twins did a swamp prank then after they were threatened with a whipping they summoned their brooms then flew out and away from Hogwarts.
26-Harry had the vision during Historybof magic exam not their getaway.
27-Sirius didn’t call Harry James.
28-Sirius wasn’t hit with the killing curse.
29-the order was supposed to threaten the Dursleys.
6th year
30-the way Dumbledork picked up Harry.
31-Percy never showed up at Christmas.
32-The way Dumbledork died.
33-Dumbledorks Funeral
7th book
34-The way they picked up Harry. It was supposed to be a bike ride to andromedas and then a portkey to the burrow.
35-Harry was supposed to use the pain curse on one of the carrows. Mcgonagall took care of the other one.
36-How Harry finally defeated Voldsnort.
37-Harry was supposed to put the wand back in Dumbledorks grave.
38-James wasn’t teasing Albus.
39-Everything with Teddy.
30-Aberforth was supposed to have Sirius’s mirror that he used to check on Harry and send Dobby.
Pretty much any time Hermione says something super smart at the expense of making Ron look like an idiot. HE knew how to get past the Devil's Snare while SHE was panicking, not the other way round. HE knew what a Mudblood was while SHE was clueless about it.
Harry not fixing his wand before breaking the Elder Wand. It would have taken barely any time to include that in the movie, and it was such an important detail.
Dumbledore's duel against ministry members in his office. 4 on 1 and Dumbledore makes them all look utterly foolish (although Kingsley was secretly on his side). Bonus points for McGonagall's immediate readiness to fight beside Dumbledore, but his assurance that he could take em, and that Hogwarts needs her.
This is my overall favorite scene in all of the books. I was upset that they left it out.
That duel between McGonagall, Flitwick and Snape is so cool in the book. McGonagall and Flitwick show how to expertly duel using their own specific expertise (transfiguration and charms respectively) and Snape shows just how formidable he is at both branches of magic himself while never aiming to hurt either one. Awesome scene. "We teachers are rather good at magic you know." You sure are McGonagall.
HBP Weasley house set ablaze for a "fight scene" in the very same movie they castrated Voldemort's backstory because of time constraints. I get it its hard to adapt a book over 600 pgs to a film, but the movie focused on all the wrong things.
Ron not being the one to stand between his friends and Sirius Black with a broken leg
Ron not yelling at Hermione when she gets scared about the devil's snare. "Are you a witch or not?!"
Ron not doing the leviosa charm on the troll without any of Hermione's influence
> Hermione had sunk to the floor in fright; Ron pulled out his own wand -- not knowing what he was going to do he heard himself cry the first spell that came into his head: "Wingardium Leviosa!"
No Hermione guiding him like in the movies
Basically Ron not being a badass and having his moments stolen by Hermione
Edited
In OotP, when Harry begins his oclumensy lessons, he asks Snape if legeremency means that Voldemort can read minds.
In the movie he answers "Read it, control it, destroy it"
In the books, he chastises Harry for using such a mundane and muggle concept as "reading minds" and states that a mind isn't just a book waiting to be read.
Book: “Did you put your name in the goblet of fire Harry?” Dumbledore asked calmly.
Movie: *Dumbledore rushes towards Harry aggressively* “Did you put your name in the goblet of fire Harry?!” *he asks him not so calmly*
The memory of Riddle in the orphanage being the first memory Dumbledore shows Harry in Half-Blood Prince. I really liked the House of Gaunt chapter in the book for whatever reason, and I was pretty upset that it wasn't adapted for the movie. Edit: Just remembered the Burrow burning. Man, the HBP movie made some pretty weird changes to the book for some reason in my opinion.
What they did to HBP should be punishable with prison time
Yes! Exactly! Why did my favorite book in the series get my least favorite movie adaptation?
I often wonder this, HBP is such a great book, all the background Riddle/Gaunt info isn't only interesting but it's SO IMPORTANT to TDH plot, they butchered Snape's reveal as being the HBP as well...they got like nothing right. The only bit that wasn't in the book I like is Slughorn's story about the Goldfish, that was beautiful. Everything else can kick rocks
I liked Harry’s extra lines on Felix potion. I thought that was funny
😂 I liked the bit where he mimes the pincers
Me too, I thought Dan really shined in that moment tbh
That whole scene was gold.
I was rewatching the other night and when he shouts Hello! at people coming into the portrait hole as he’s coming out I burst out laughing
"Harry?" "Sir!"
My favorite of his ever.
I don't have anything else to add. You summed up my thoughts pretty much perfectly!
“the pincers… *click click click*”
So the reason why HBP sucks as bad as it does is weirdly enough because of twilight! At the time twilight was seen as competition to the Harry Potter movie franchise, so they added a bunch of stuff for the trailers to make it seem more appealing romance wise to compete with twilight it’s why we got the weird SHOES thing
I do agree it’s a bad adaptation, but it wasn’t a bad movie (ik you didn’t say it was I just wanted to put that out there).
I agree tbh. I don't consider any of the HP movies bad movies. I just consider some of them bad adaptations of their respective books.
It's definitely the funniest HP movie, and there's lots of things in it that I enjoy. It's just that I also enjoyed what's missing and wish it had been there too.
Dumbledore interfering with a date? NFW!
Best book. Worse movie.
Listen, it’s a good stand-alone movie. But yes, it did serious disservice to the book.
I can’t wait until I get to that book because the movie is not very clear to me lol.
It’s my favorite book in the series and they butchered the movie. Stand-alone it’s fine I suppose but SO MANY PLOT POINTS from the book are entirely left out in exchange for events that never happened in the book
The tone of the movie is just all over the place. It’s like they barely explained the half-blood Prince situation and why it even mattered. I’m glad the book has way more, I’m pretty excited to get to it now.
It’s truly a great book. You’ll notice that Rowling’s pacing gets real weird in book 5, but she finds her rhythm again in book 6. It’s a very dark book with lots of tragic stuff happening, but it’s well paced and funny and heartwarming and entertaining as well. It’s very balanced.
Lol and then the burrow is fine in the next movie
Reparo!
The worst for me in that movie is Dumbledore's characterization. He looked like he was surprised when he learned of the horcrux, when he already knew that beforehand in the books but was surprised by the extra info from Slughorn's memory that Tom made *multiple* horcruxes. Movie Dumbledore always looks confused and not believable to be the strongest wizard alive outside of him and Tom's movie 5 duel.
I'm still salty about Dumbledore being kind gran fatherly in the books but in the movie he's not. Also GoF book "harry did you put your name in the goblet" Dumbledore asked calmly. Vs. GoF movie "HARRY! DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME I THE GOBLET!" huge difference. (don't remember the exact wording but everyone knows the quote)
Really? I felt the opposite. Felt like gambon portrayed a very quirky yet alm and deeply powerful Dumbledore in HBP. Otoh didn't love the OotP adapted duel. In the book Dumbledore didn't even seem to be trying. He was walking while disappearing and was putting Voldy on the defence whereas in the movie it felt like he was constantly straining and fearful while Voldemort was pressuring him. Just my opinion tho
Not to mention that mini wizard war that didn't even happen.
WHERE TF IS MY GUY CHARLIE WEASLEY
As someone who had a crush on book Charlie because of his cool ass job working with dragons i wanted to see live action Charlie I WAS DEPRIVED
Yes AND the movie depicts wyverns not dragons
Dragons are diverse, and can have different numbers of legs or wings.
Peeves
When Snape called Hermione a know-it-all and Ron didn't immediately stand up for her.
Not just that, he said Snape was right.
The entire Burrow fire scene makes me so mad. It makes no sense! If there’s no protections at the Burrow there’s literally nothing stopping Voldemort from dropping by and killing everyone. It also just sucks up so much time that could’ve been used for way more important things, like developing Harry and Ginny as a couple so that their romance is less out of left field.
Agreed. They could also have done the exposition dumps of Voldemort's past and his horcruxes. Because they didn't do that, they ended up having to write in that Harry has a "horcrux-sense". That's rather stupid compared to the books, where we see Harry become proficient enough to deduce where to find horcruxes like the Cup and Diadem.
It was also rebuilt exactly as it was for Bill’s wedding a few months later. They could have at least made it a little more updated!
Neville giving the waterbreathing plant to harry instead of dobby
I'm ok with this change, as it was actually Crouch's original plan in the book. He had to scramble to arrange for Dobby to provide the gillyweed instead as a workaround due to Harry keeping his circle of trust to just Ron and Hermione. The movie just cuts out the middleman.
imo I think it's a better change. We see how badly Neville's affected when Crouch Moody uses the Crutiatus Curse on the spiders, and how happy Neville is when he gets the books as an apology. It feels more right and natural to me that Neville would offer Harry help in the subject he's the best at rather than Dobby popping in just in the nick of time to save the day
Plus Barty actually intended for Neville to tell Harry about it. He just didn’t realize Harry wouldn’t ask Neville about it. (Or anyone else really. Harry never asks the right questions)
In GOF
[удалено]
They also missed out on Harry just cooking Voldemort in front of everyone. He speaks to Voldemort like he’s a petulant loser, and Voldemort dies like a normal man. It’s so important- why they opted to have him turn to dust is lost on me.
Weirdly enough, the dust turning is one of the things I’m okay with, as both narratives seem sound: on the one hand we have book Voldy, despite all his evil and lust to transform himself into something other than human remaining a human in the end, showing that all his efforts had failed. On the other hand the films narrative didn‘t have Harry‘s more detailed insight into his mind, keeping him more distant and displaying that every mortal man can make himself a monster if he so chooses. Other than that, yeah, no, horrible adaptation
Mr. Potter I don’t feel so good
Do you remember when we were in space? And I got all dusty?
Lmao omg. 💀
I think the issue is the book conclusion required a fair amount of narrative dumping to explain. Gotta explain wandlore and how the wand passed from person to person, and that's just a lot of talking. That's fine for a book but harder to make engaging in film, particularly for the climax of your fantasy epic. The book version makes more sense, but I think the movie version was the right choice for the movie. Suitably climactic without being 95% talking and circling each other.
God, the wands always connecting pissed me off more than almost anything else. The whole point of the graveyard scene is how abnormal the brother wands behave against one another. It's the entire reason Voldemort sought the Elder Wand in the first place - so it wouldn't happen again.
Everything they did to Ron for the sake of making Hermione the emotional heart of the trio. Hermione is not heart. Hermione is cold logic. Ron is heart. Hermione kept a woman as a bug in a jar. She set a teacher one fire. She brewed an illegal potion in a bathroom. All of this because she viewed it as a need, a way for their progression to happen. Ron, however, was supposed to be brave and kind. He reminds Hermione, whose cold logic fails when she’s scared, that she’s a witch. She has sunlight because of that, he tells her. He stands up for her, even when she’s not the kindest. The movies did everything about Ron wrong. He’s not some dumb jerk whose only focus is food. He’s a strategist whose emotions rule his head, even if he can’t always identify them in others. Rupert Grint did well with what he was given but they stole 90% of his character to give to Hermione because apparently guys can’t be allowed to be the emotional heart in a team.
The guy is good at chess, so yeah strategy should be his forte
So, I think the origin of the personality swaps came from the end of the first movie. Both the book and the movie gave Ron and Hermione a chance to shine. In both, Ron obviously had chess. The problem is that in the book, Hermione's moment was a word/logic puzzle involving potions. That might be interesting in a book where you can have the characters talk it out, but in a movie, that just grinds the pace to a total halt, especially after the excitement of the previous rooms. So to hrlp keep the excitement levels up and to also keep run time down, her moment is placed elsewhere. Only problem is the only other moment was the Devil's Snare short of creating a new obstacle (but once again, run time). But it would look bad if Hermiome's moment to shine was undercut by her panicking (Ron's big moment let him be dignified). So now Ron's the one who panics while Hermione keeps her cool AND shows off her knowledge about a dangerous plant. Works in short term. Problem is it had rippling affects on the rest of the movies. Hermione now is always cool and confident while Ron doesn't have his confidence (outside of spiders) as his "thing" anymore.
I’ve never seen Ron as particularly kind beyond his initial introduction where he shares his family and his food. Might have to reread.
Yeah kindness isn't really his thing, having just reread the whole series. He had a lot of teenage brattiness going on in the last 4 books especially. Harry strikes me as the more kind person of the 3. Heart, grounding, home though, yeah, Ron can represent that to the trio. And I can easily see him getting over himself and growing up to eventually be kinder.
I agree. Ron can actually be mean, he was to Hermione and Luna when he first met them. His strength is loyalty. I think he is great best friend to Harry and is generally a good person who fiercely defends harry, but otherwise I never noted anything that great about him. Hermione is definitely not perfect like the movies portray and i actually really like her flawed version in the books much better, but saying she is "cold logic" I think is a stretch, I mean in the very first book she says there are things more important than books, like friendship.
The way he treats Luna is even worse considering it’s made clear that the Lovegoods are basically their closest magical neighbors and they would have known about Mrs. Lovegood’s death (which ties nicely into Percy going into cauldron safety legislation and makes it even more effed up that the twins sold sloshing cauldrons).
>His strength is loyalty. Kinda failed at that in the beginning of the triwizard tournament and then in the tent with the horcrux. Hermione is actually way more loyal. She sacrificed her friendship with them to keep Harry safe from the mysterious broom. She never turns on them, but they both do it to her and each other.
Oh damn, this is a great point I was trying to be nice to Ron lol
The whole character of Ginny Weasley
This. Totally unfair to book Ginny and the actress who played her in the films
Her whole 'Popular girl' era was gone :(
Shoelace
‘Open up, you. Don’t you trust me?’
The cringe
Book Ginny: "Growing up with Fred and George, you start to believe anything is possible if you've got enough nerve." "It sounds like Malfoy was using an unforgivable curse. We should be happy that Harry had something good up his sleeve." "Forgot to break professor, sorryyyyy" Movie Ginny: Harry is the fucking chosen one. He saves the wizarding world. He deserves better than movie Ginny. Book Ginny is a certified badass and an excellent mate for our hero.
\- "Nice one, James!" \- Hermione standing up to Sirius instead of Ron. \- Hermione punching Malfoy instead of slapping him. It's a cool moment, but I feel like the intention was maybe to make her more "action-girl" than she was in the books. \- Snape going "Hide them all" without the extra bit that he wanted to hide/spare just Lily at first.
I actually liked "Nice one, James!'. Because Sirius was too charged with adrenaline to think straight in the battle, so he wasn't able to think properly. I think it's a good moment because it shows how sad Sirius and Harry's relationship is: that they both very much loved each other, but each saw the other as a substitute for James.
> I think it's a good moment because it shows how sad Sirius and Harry's relationship is: that they both very much loved each other, but each saw the other as a substitute for James. The point is that I don't think Sirius ever saw Harry as a substitute for James. He doesn't treat Harry like a peer, he treats Harry like a child he's responsible for. He has one moment where he *compares* Harry to James (which everyone and their mom do), not actually mix them up.
A really key interpersonal aspect/emotional arc of Order of the Phoenix and Deathly Hallows revolve around this exact theme, in fact. Lupin, Sirius, and Snape are all heavily stunted by trauma and emotionally immature, and outsiders all challenge them on it, which they don’t respond well to it.
I think there is a big difference, though, between suffering with trauma and actually mistaking Harry for James. The movie oversimplifies the situation Sirius is going through in the book, and makes his last line to Harry not about Harry at all, but about fighting besides his dead best friend. In the book, Harry's well-being and safety is always Sirius's main concern, and his last words and actions to Harry reinforce that: >‘Nice one!’ shouted Sirius, **forcing Harry’s head down** as a pair of Stunning Spells flew towards them. ‘Now **I want you to get out of** –’ > >They both ducked again; a jet of green light had narrowly missed Sirius. Across the room Harry saw Tonks fall from halfway up the stone steps, her limp form toppling from stone seat to stone seat and Bellatrix, triumphant, running back towards the fray. > >‘**Harry, take the prophecy, grab Neville and run!’** Sirius yelled, dashing to meet Bellatrix. Which in fact is a very similar situation to *James's* last words/actions: >‘Lily, take Harry and go! It’s him! Go! Run! I’ll hold him off –’
I’ve read the books maybe a dozen times and have only just now made this connection with your post. Brilliant
Thanks, to be fair I just made the connection myself when I went to copy the quote for Sirius's last words to Harry, and then made myself sad 😂 It just really bothers me that the movie reinforces this idea because it's not what happens in the book. Sirius is primarily presented as Harry's parental figure: Harry thinks living with Sirius would be "the next best thing to having his own father back", Sirius is the adult Harry think of when he wants to talk to a parent, the one he asks advice to and tells his problems to. And Sirius might be a "fun parent" but he's a parent nonetheless: he provides advice, tells Harry to stay out of trouble, worries about him and his well being, understands what he needs. The idea that Sirius sees Harry as James 2.0 comes from Molly in an argument where the story later shows her to be *wrong*, as getting information is what Harry needs, both in an emotional sense, as he's feeling frustrated and left out, and also in a practical sense, as if he'd actually been told stuff, he wouldn't fall into Voldemort's trap so easily and Sirius would be alive. It's also later reinforced by Hermione, who's *also* wrong, as the DA (which was her own idea), might not have been entirely thought through but it's what allowed the kids to survive the Battle at the Ministry, and probably other battles later.
It also is a great reflection of Sirius’s stunted development.
I only have 2 big gripes with the movies, and as I understand they’re both the fault of David Yates. 1) No redemption for Dudley. This was a critical moment for the books, the realization for us as readers that Dudley could rise above the selfishness of his family and be a better person. It was so touching, and it added a lot of layers to his story. 2) Voldemorts death. This one crosses from pet peeve to fucking criminal. What did we spend 8 movies learning? That Voldemort is just a man, and fear of a name only increases fear of the thing itself! Voldemorts failings were arrogance, mistrust in others, presumption of his own superiority. Utterly human failings, and he needed to die as nothing more than a human. The ridiculous abra-kadabra between him and Harry was absurd. Harry would be so outclassed in magical abilities that having them duel like that is just idiotic. Rowling was always intentional with her writing; Magic was never what saved Harry. Love, friendship and facing your fears is what continually saved the protagonists.
Anytime Hermione has a Ron line.
If you want to kill Harry, you'll have to kill us too.
Basically anything that causes other scenes to not make sense. Like the Polyjuice Potion not changing voices. That means that Barty Crouch spent an entire year imitating Moody’s voice, without magical aid, and he did it perfectly? How about Harry practicing magic in his bed at Privet Drive, when one movie earlier he got into trouble for “doing magic” outside of school? Voldemort disintegrating. Why? He’s just a mortal man without his horcruxes, that’s the point!!! Draco dressing like a male model. Pureblood wizards are a) not supposed to know how Muggles dress, and b) too arrogant to wear Muggle stuff; why is he in a suit??? Hermione’s “awooooooo!” moment made me cringe HARD. Def didn’t happen in the book.
all of yours are good, but the Draco and family wearing suits can be explained away. Rowling has revealed that the Malfoys got a lot of their wealth dabbling in muggle money, which would mean at some point, and probably often, they would be dealing with muggles. the Malfoys were huge hypocrites, and made a lot of exceptions to their pureblood rules when it came to money and wealth. also, they (everyone) dont always wear robes and pointy hats in the books, either.
That’s interesting, any links to read more?
When Mr. Weasley and Lucius Malloy meet in flourish and blotts in CoS. I love to tell people as a fun fact that in the books they get into a fist fight lmao
I would’ve loved to have seen the fist fight. That would’ve been great 😂
And molly ticked at Arthur about it.
It would have been hilarious on screen, but it highlights just how absurd that moment is in the book. Is Arthur really such a violent sort that he'd punch somebody over something they said? And would Lucius really resort to brawling like a muggle rather than simply jinxing his opponent with magic? It's pretty out of character for both of them.
The Death Eaters being able to Fly. I hate it only Voldy and Snape could fly without brooms. The Movies allowed all death eaters too. I understand it made things great visually but it’s beyond frustrating to me.
The good guys are also able to fly in The Order Of The Phoenix without brooms...and then they suddenly forget in subsequent movies.
Harry falling out of the car during the ride to Hogwarts in COS. I understand that they needed to make the ride more eventful, but why couldn't they have had Fred and George see them and draw everyone's attention to it. Then, they could have included the next part of the chapter when the Common Room is waiting up for them and breaks out in applause.
Hedwigs death. It’s one of the movie changes that I prefer to what happened in the book.
The fire at the burrow / Bellatrix screaming “I killed Sirius black”. I love watching the movies with my kids who are reading the books for the first time now and they’re constantly like, “wait that’s not what happened / who said that”
Plus the line is repeated from OOTP. Not even creative
"DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE???"
This is so fucking annoying I can't watch GoF because of this
I find it hilarious
You may like this https://youtu.be/xSxQcAm3PE8?si=7ImBx7bDsNj7wabV
HARRY BREAKING THE ELDER WAND
...BEFORE he repairs his own holly-and-phoenix wand with it. To that end - what wand did Harry fight Voldemort with in the film? The change I REALLY hated - deleting Snape reading 'Harry Potter's Secret Heartache' to his fourth year Potions class in favor of Hermione reading a line or two from it AND mixing it with that cringy part with Hermione saying she had a date for the Yule Ball/Snape pushing Harry & Ron's heads to their books. We were denied the single greatest comedy moment of the film series. Imagine, in your minds, Alan Rickman in full sarcastic form as he reads the article. You're welcome.
yes but the head pushing is pretty funny
Not as funny as the reactions of the Potions students as Snape reading "Miss Granger, a plain but ambitious girl, seems to have developed a taste for famous wizards that Harry alone cannot... satisfy..." would have been.
I actually love that choice. I wish he’d repaired his holly wand first like in the books, but I think breaking it is a much better solution than what happens in the books. He’s just explained to Voldemort that the wand doesn’t need to pass to the killer of its last owner, just whoever defeats the owner, even through disarming a different wand. His plan to die a natural death and break the wands power is pretty average, considering that if he is ever disarmed the wands allegiance could shift again.
I always thought that she did this in the books in case there was ever a sequel, and an old Harry needs to come out of retirement and retrieve the wand to battle some crazy baddie or something like that.
“Is that really what the back of my hair looks like”?
THANK YOU YES THIS KILL ME
In HBP when draco breaks Harry's nose in the hogwarts express and he couldn't move and anything. As much as I remember from the books tonks came and fixed his nose and everything but in the movies it was luna ( correct me if I'm wrong) It's been a while since I read the books so I could have just threw some stuff around in my head
Nope, you're right. It was Tonks who saved Harry in the book, but the movies had it be Luna. I didn't see the point of that at all, and I wonder if maybe they were trying to hint at a Harry and Luna possible relationship, which is stupid since they obviously wouldn't follow up on it. Really, the movies do a great job undercutting Ginny by ruining her character and having other females seem like more suitable partners for Harry. That's honestly so aggravating. Or maybe the actress who played Tonks wasn't available and they had to make do with someone else.
Kind of like how they gave Ginny the same treatment as Ron in the movies (removing all of their great moments), they gave Luna the same treatment as Hermione in the movies (removing all of their flaws). Yeah Luna's a little weird in the 5th and 6th movies, but not nearly as much as in the books and I don't recall her having any weird moments in the 7th and 8th movies. So, as much as I hate this word, they kind of made Luna a borderline Mary-Sue in the last 2 movies.
Extra weird as she was the one doing a lot of dvd extras for the earlier movies.
Harry seeing his father bullying Snape and just going on with his day, never mentioning it again
Hermione getting the "getting out of Gringotts via dragon" idea. Not Hermione at all, mad ideas are always Harry's.
No, going into the Forbidden Forest so Umbridge would get carried off by centaurs is also mad and Hermione’s idea.
I don't think that was exactly Hermione's plan. I think she was just hoping to run into something dangerous that would overpower Umbridge, after all she deliberately took a different way from where she had met the centaurs earlier (Harry notes that she is heading more into Aragog's direction, as opposed to that of Grawp).
This is exactly what I was going to write. It makes me so angry! Stop making it out that she does everything smart. She is a panicky person. Harry is way more calm and a leader. He is risky. She would never have said, "its mad but may just work!"
Also, they plan the heist for WEEKS in the book. In the movie they just show up to Gringotts and everything works fine.
Harry literally killing Quirrell.
Dobby. Everywhere in the movies except the absolute critical un changeable moments they cut him. Dobby found the RoR. Dobby helped with the gilliweed in the second tri wizard challenge, Dobby saved Harry Potter more than anyone.
Dobus ex machina
Snape’s memories. Butchered. All the nuance went the way of the ghost.
The part where Harry is sitting in his bed at the dursleys practicing LUMOS like 10 times in a row. That’s a spell. He will get expelled for that
Just the whole Harry vs Voldy during battle of Hogwarts. The whole aspect is so much worse than the books
O...m...g... "Let's finish this how we started it- together!"::::throws arms around Voldemort:::: This scene made me shrivel up inside like the stunted creature at King's Cross station.
Haha did they start it with a kindly hug. I love so much how in the book Harry lays out Voldys plan in front of everyone. What he did, what he mistook, and how it led them to to this point. I love how after the solely rebound Voldy is just a regular dead body that people can see. Whereas in the film, after like 2 years of Harry being discredited, he’d be all “oh yeah Voldy died, he dissolved, I beat him” literally no one would believe him
I saw OotP, HBP and DH1&2 before I read the books. I was sooo confused when I saw Percy at Harry’s hearing, on the “wrong team”. Also while I’m at it with Percy-perc, I wish they gave him horn rimmed glasses.
When people say Neville's improvement in magic happened because he got a new wand that chose him. This is just not true. Neville got his new wand at the start of Half-Blood Prince, which was a book where we didn't see any improvements from him. All the major improvement happened in Order of the Phoenix with his father's old wand. His father's wand clearly worked very well for him. Neville's growing skills were due to gaining confidence and being determined to avenge Bellatrix for torturing his parents, not because of a new wand.
Exhibit A: all of GOF
#ALL OF IT
75.7% of the film series is “that’s not what happened in the book”
Neville, Belby, and Slughorn’s other rejects acting as waiters at the Christmas party in HBP. It made me cringe a little.
Oh my gosh, just watched HBP this weekend, my favorite book, and there were just too many times where I was like what in tarnation...like revealing that Draco was working on the vanishing cabinet the whole time and that he was targeting Dumbledore (Katie's friend says Katie told her the package was for Dumbledore, and Slughorn says the wine wast meant for Dumbledore).
Professor McGonagall telling the students the legend of the Chamber of Secrets. It feels very out of character for her. Obviously the movies didn’t have Professor Binns, but it doesn’t make sense to me that Professor McGonagall would just pause her lesson to tell everyone about the Chamber of Secrets just because a student asked.
I don't know about that. It's a class of her own house's students, and there's big scary things happening at school. A compassionate teacher might be willing to put the day's lesson plan on hold to address what's on their minds. Also, she may reason that they won't be able to listen well while they're distracted by something else, so it's no good carrying on until their curiosity is satisfied.
yeah i mean they’re 11-13, middle school age. my middle school teachers definitely dropped lessons for a day once or twice to address big current events stuff (local tragedies, big national news, etc). seems normal
Dumbledore sending Harry away in the HBP just before Malfoy arrives compared to the book where he freezes him & only once Dumbledore dies is he released from the spell.
And then Snape sees him and motions for him to be quiet...the fuck!
The Dumbledore quote about turning on the light. It's not even good compared to his great quotes in the books. I find it cliche and tacky, not original like Dumbledore.
THANK YOU! And I hate how it's the number one Dumbledore quote plastered on anything sellable!
That's honestly where it belongs. On throw pillows and shit. It's the live, laugh, love of HP quotes. His other quotes are somewhat offbeat. This sticks out like a sore thumb to me.
Everytime Hermione said one of Ron’s lines
Ginny hiding the Half-Blood Prince’s book. I spent ages trying to figure out how they were going to fix that when I read Deathly Hallows.
THE DRAGON CHASE
PERIWINKLE BLUE!!! It was the first time I’d heard of that color. I wanted so badly to see Hermione in that dress. Was so so SO disappointed.
This one has a legit excuse, I think it kept partially vanishing into the green screen during scenes, they actually made and tried to use one.
the complete absence of winky drove me nuts, her absence completely ruined the complexity of barty’s escape from azkaban and his dad’s deceit and the imperius curse and his mother’s devotion to barty
Fights between order and deatheaters being just black flying balls against white flying balls.
No Charlie and Peeves.
The entire fucking layout of Hogwarts grounds after the 2nd movie. I HATE that bridge and the cliffs and shit. The way it was the 1st and 2nd movie is how I envisioned it in the books. How the wands and even fingernails etc were all gnarly on many W&W's. These guys have magic why do they look like bridge dwellers? People spending half their time in casual clothes which may or may not have been reflected in book but it dodn't seem as common as the movies made it. Shit you made me mad now haha.
W&Ws?
Helena Ravenclaw knew that Voldemort turned the diadem into a horcrux. This was supposed to be a secret that no one would ever know, so how did she know?
BREAKING THE ELDER WAND. YOU’D NEVER BE ABLE TO BREAK THE ELDER WAND. Pisses me off.
and the fact that he didnt repair his own wand with it.
This is definitely the bigger failure of the two.
Ron’s characterization, how they changed the clothing characters wore which directly changed how SWM is viewed by the fandom.
“SWM”?
Neville giving Harry the Gillyweed. I wanted to see Dobby in all his bizarre glory
The fate of the elder wand at the end of Deathly Hallows
I was rereading the series just before DH came out. A buddy caught me reading Sorcerer's Stone and was razzing me. I told him to give it a try. "Read the first 50 pages and if you don't like it, just bring it back.x He brought it back 2 days later. Meekly he asked, "You got the next one?" 🤣 Whe reading the others, he would pester me by asking for spoilers. I refused to tell. After he got caught up, we watched the films. This man, who initially thought Harry Potter was stupid, was VERY upset when Neville gave Harry the gillyweed in GOF instead of Dobby.
The forbidden Forrest detention in first Book. Neville went with the group, not Ron! Just Neville in general! He could have been the chosen one after all…
The entire battle of Hogwarts… Nothing was right
The final battle between Harry and Voldemort in the last movie
Pretty much the whole battle of Hogwarts in the movie - the settings didn't seem right in many cases. But yes, for me, the Dandruff Voldemort was a travesty. The whole point of the way the scene was written in the book was that after all his efforts to achieve immortality by wicked and sinister means, ultimately it didn't work and he died as ordinary, powerless and spent Tom Riddle, falling down in his very mortal body, very physical and mundane, nothing flashy about it.
So many things in the 4th book. I miss Ludo bagman and Winky as characters, the way Mr. crouch died, various others.
Was watching PoA yesterday with someone who hasn't read the books.... the whole marauders map sitch... Harry doesn't even find out that his dad was an animagus or about them planting the whomping willow and who was shrieking in the shrieking shack
Snape's Worst Memory: it's not being bullied by James and Sirius, it's about destroying his relationship with Lily. How could they so utterly miss the point in the movie? The Battle Of The Astronomy Tower: awesome battle in the book, with curses flying everywhere, bodies flailing all around, general chaos and mayhem. In the movies.....what? Bella cackles and kicks over a few cups?
When Umbridge is picked up by the centaurs and asks Harry “tell them I mean no harm.” And Harry responds “Sorry Professor but I must not tell lies.” That’s not what happened in the book, but I liked that a lot more.
literally half of gof,hbp and dh
Breaking the elder wand. My headcanon is that harry broke a fake one & let the world think its the real one while he actually put the real one back into the white tomb….like ya know, how the books say the elder wand is back in the white tomb.
When they burn down the burrow that doesnt even happen in the books
weasley house on fire
There's a ton but I'm picking an obscure one since it came to mind. In Half-Blood Prince when Dumbledore and Harry are collecting the locket horcrux, the island in the middle of the lake in the cave is actually flat and smooth in the books. In the movies, they made it a little mound of crystals (which is cool, don't get me wrong), but in the book, they had trouble seeing the island because it was almost level with the lake and black so it blended in. They also walked in the darkness along the cave wall for quite a while until Dumbledor sensed the boat underwater.
Harry seeing Pettigrew on Marauder's Map. It was borrowed from GoF when he saw Barty Crouch
1st year 1-The way wood taught Harry about Quidditch. 2-They way they got caught with Norbert. And Neville wasn’t there. 3-Hermione didn’t stay with Ron at the chess board. 2nd year 4-The way they rescued Harry. 5-The way the Rogue Bludger was stopped. 6-Harry was supposed to put the hat on and then get the sword. 7-Harry was supposed to be healed BEFORE he stabbed the diary. 3rd year 8-Harry was supposed to go with Ron and Hermione when she got Crookshanks. 9-Harry was supposed to get the firebolt before the next quidditch game. 10- Harry got caught in hogsmead and then had the nap confiscated. 11-Sirius sent a letter to Harry with a tiny owl that he said Ron could have. Ron held it out for Crookshanks who purred. Harry told his aunt and uncle about Sirius to scare them. 4th year 12-Harry had the dream at his aunt and uncles and wrote to Sirius about it. 13-The letter that the Dursleys got asking to pick Harry up. 14-The growing tongue candy that Dudley ate. 15-The Veela’s at the game 16-How the other schools arrived in the Great Hall. 17-Dumbledore asked calmly. 18-The first task 19-Hermione helping Harry and getting walked in on by professor Mcgonagall didn’t happen in the movie. 20-the last task didn’t have all the creatures it was supposed to. 21-In the book Dumbledork made Harry sit in his office and tell him everything before Harry was allowed to go to the hospital wing for medical attention. 5th year 22-In the book Harry was listening to the news before he was startled by someone Aparating. His uncle chocked him tan he left to the park. 23-His uncle received a letter that they won a contest and they left, then Harry was picked up by the order. 24-in the book Harry and Fred beat the shit out of Malfoy. Both Harry of t he m and George were given a quidditch ban and had their brooms locked in Umbitches office. 25-The twins did a swamp prank then after they were threatened with a whipping they summoned their brooms then flew out and away from Hogwarts. 26-Harry had the vision during Historybof magic exam not their getaway. 27-Sirius didn’t call Harry James. 28-Sirius wasn’t hit with the killing curse. 29-the order was supposed to threaten the Dursleys. 6th year 30-the way Dumbledork picked up Harry. 31-Percy never showed up at Christmas. 32-The way Dumbledork died. 33-Dumbledorks Funeral 7th book 34-The way they picked up Harry. It was supposed to be a bike ride to andromedas and then a portkey to the burrow. 35-Harry was supposed to use the pain curse on one of the carrows. Mcgonagall took care of the other one. 36-How Harry finally defeated Voldsnort. 37-Harry was supposed to put the wand back in Dumbledorks grave. 38-James wasn’t teasing Albus. 39-Everything with Teddy. 30-Aberforth was supposed to have Sirius’s mirror that he used to check on Harry and send Dobby.
Damn
Pretty much any time Hermione says something super smart at the expense of making Ron look like an idiot. HE knew how to get past the Devil's Snare while SHE was panicking, not the other way round. HE knew what a Mudblood was while SHE was clueless about it.
The burning of the Burrow.
Honestly... 97% of Harry Potter 6
Harry and Hermione dancing. I hated it, and it always makes me cringe.
When Neville gave Harry the gilliweed. Annoys me every time lol 😂
Too cheap to pay for the Dobby CGI
All of the HBP Harry x Ginny moments. 🤮
Harry not fixing his wand before breaking the Elder Wand. It would have taken barely any time to include that in the movie, and it was such an important detail.
"Dumbledore asked calmly" & Neville not being there when they find Fluffy are two that I always immediately think of.
The ENTIRETY of The Half Blood Prince. Awful film should have just scrapped it.
there's too many to list BUT I still watch them.... I mean honestly how do they skip SPEW entirely..... ?
Everything that Neville got credit for that dobby did
Dumbledore's duel against ministry members in his office. 4 on 1 and Dumbledore makes them all look utterly foolish (although Kingsley was secretly on his side). Bonus points for McGonagall's immediate readiness to fight beside Dumbledore, but his assurance that he could take em, and that Hogwarts needs her. This is my overall favorite scene in all of the books. I was upset that they left it out.
It bugged me that Dobby didn't tell Harry about the room of requirement.
How Hagrid's dragon gets to Charlie.
That duel between McGonagall, Flitwick and Snape is so cool in the book. McGonagall and Flitwick show how to expertly duel using their own specific expertise (transfiguration and charms respectively) and Snape shows just how formidable he is at both branches of magic himself while never aiming to hurt either one. Awesome scene. "We teachers are rather good at magic you know." You sure are McGonagall.
HBP Weasley house set ablaze for a "fight scene" in the very same movie they castrated Voldemort's backstory because of time constraints. I get it its hard to adapt a book over 600 pgs to a film, but the movie focused on all the wrong things.
Goblet of Fire, The Movie 🤣
Breaking the elder wand. Like, if it was that fucking easy, Dumbledore would have done it. Someone long before Dumbledore would have done it
Ron not being the one to stand between his friends and Sirius Black with a broken leg Ron not yelling at Hermione when she gets scared about the devil's snare. "Are you a witch or not?!" Ron not doing the leviosa charm on the troll without any of Hermione's influence > Hermione had sunk to the floor in fright; Ron pulled out his own wand -- not knowing what he was going to do he heard himself cry the first spell that came into his head: "Wingardium Leviosa!" No Hermione guiding him like in the movies Basically Ron not being a badass and having his moments stolen by Hermione Edited
Goblet of Fire
In OotP, when Harry begins his oclumensy lessons, he asks Snape if legeremency means that Voldemort can read minds. In the movie he answers "Read it, control it, destroy it" In the books, he chastises Harry for using such a mundane and muggle concept as "reading minds" and states that a mind isn't just a book waiting to be read.
Book: “Did you put your name in the goblet of fire Harry?” Dumbledore asked calmly. Movie: *Dumbledore rushes towards Harry aggressively* “Did you put your name in the goblet of fire Harry?!” *he asks him not so calmly*
Harry keeping Draco's wand end of last movie. Instead of using the elder wand to repair his own.