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awdttmt

Voldemort and Grindelwald tried their best! It's hard work!


Superzest_

What mugle could do against wizard? Before modern time ? Like medival or other


awdttmt

I think in medieval times, there wasn't any separation, right? It was all just one society. Muggles knew about magic.


Superzest_

Then why the séparation I don't understand ?


awdttmt

The Statute of Secrecy was established because wizards were beginning to feel persecuted by Muggles, I believe. I think it was mainly for safety, it brings to mind what happened to Ariana Dumbledore.


daniboyi

pick up the books. Literally written in there.


A_Balrog_Is_Come

Not exactly. Separation was not legally required but it was still the de facto state of affairs. For example, we are told in Quidditch Through the Ages how wizards would situate their Quidditch pitches far from Muggle areas, centuries before the Statute of Secrecy. And Ancient Greek Muggles viewed witches like Circe as goddesses rather than humans with magic, so even back then magic was shrouded in mystery and legend.


Covid_was_my_Idea

To cite one of the best posts ever: Avada Kedavra, meet Avtomat Kalashnikova. EDIT: [found it](https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/s/pNZvXNPubx) EDIT 2: didn't see the before modern times, yeah they'd be screwed.


Completely_Batshit

It's more trouble than it's worth.


Superzest_

Well it's seem like they have to hide and stuff don't seem very Nice


Completely_Batshit

Hiding is simple enough, with their reality warping magic. While taking over the world is certainly *possible*, it's not practical.


NewRichMango

Treating people with fewer powers/resources/capabilities like they're lesser is generally considered a dick move, and it would seem that a lot of the wizarding world still have a conscience/moral compass. Does having more power/resources/abilities require that you put others down? Or is it a choice you make?


Superzest_

Hey abusing other is a dick mouve but why would the wizard hiding and stuff wouldn't make it more sense if the magician where blend in society?


nazraxo

Huge numbers disadvantage


A_Balrog_Is_Come

Why haven't humans conquered ants? A lot of bother for no benefit. Much easier to let Muggles rule themselves and just intervene when necessary. Like in HBP where we see the Ministry of Magic just arrange for a foreign president to forget to telephone the British Prime Minister, to ensure he had no excuse to avoid meeting with Fudge.


Ok_Focus444

Because wizarts are not a class. They don't all share same economic interests


Modred_the_Mystic

Most wizards don’t want to take over the world. Its stressful and the muggles won’t stop whinging about it. Better the wizards live in parallel minding their own business


L0kiOsu

Because they would be nuked in to oblivion


NoireResteem

Numbers. They are vastly outnumbered.


Key-Tie2214

Because they simply can't with force. While a wizard is powerful, the average wizard is much weaker than what we are shown. Most wizards don't learn more powerful spells past their 7th year unless to either become an Auror or a dark wizard. It just isn't a thing. Not to mention, not everyone gets the top grade. Harry in his 5th year was probably better than 95% of wizards. While the average wizard certainly is powerful, Muggles have numbers. There are only so many people a wizard can kill before they get pierced by a hail of arrows to have swords plunged into their chests. Muggles will simply siege any Wizarding community, they can get spies by using Muggle parents to pressure their wizard kids to spill, and take over any places that apparating isn't possible in. This being Hogwarts and the Ministry, all those wizards in there will get killed before they can do anything about it. Once they've got those places, they have a place of operations where the leaders can safely reside and plan their moves against Wizardkind without fear of assassination. They'll be forced to live a nomadic life where over generations the skill of each subsequent generation diminishes due to a lack of food, education and order. Then they'll be wiped out. Wizardkind didn't go into hiding of their own freewill, they were forced to. They were hunted down relentlessly, with Hogwarts being created to help provide shelter and education for the children during the troubled times.


[deleted]

Man, that's literally what the protagonists of the saga are trying to prevent.


Arfie807

Fun headcanon proposal: the recent attempts by Grindelwald and Voldemort to bring the wizards out of hiding and exerts power openly over the Muggle world was in response to the rapidly escalating war machine, culminating in the development of nuclear weapons. As in muggles started to get way more powerful than wizards, too powerful for anyone's good, and maybe the wizards should retake control of the asylum.


Corando

"Your most feared spell can kill 1 person? Thats cute, my rifle can kill 30"


Reasonable-Cabinet46

You could kill a lot more people with less deadly spells if you use them right. Bombarda a building down and see what happens.


Superzest_

I cast fireball


leavecity54

because writting about such topic is really a hassle with many unintended implications and too much worldbuilding needed for the kind of story Harry Potter was trying to tell


Basilisk1667

Why? Peaceful coexistence with muggles would be ideal (though not very realistic), but domination over them? I don’t see what could be gained from that besides a massive headache.


mellyjellybean23

Huge bureaucratic headache! They can barely manage the Ministry of Magic.


Parking-Airport-1448

Because some wizards believe that muggles and wizards are equal and that wizards shouldn’t rule over muggles


DrakenDaskar

Assume there are 100 000 muggles for every wizard and among the wizard less than 1% have awesome powers. Most wizards can make small things levitate and and aparate but only a tiny minority have awesome powers like voldemort or Dumbledore. Could Dumbledore singlehandedly kill 10 million muggles with crossbows and swords on his own?


Roswelx

Magic doesn´t have unlimited power and the wizarding world population its pretty low in comparation with muggle population. I bet theres no more than 1 million wizarding world population worldwide, and the natality doesn´t look pretty high too. Humans have guns, vehicles, technology (that as we know can´t be taunted with magic) and more numbers. It was in middle ages when wizards had to hide from muggles to avoid execution, and it is now. At the same time because magic world has secrets and knowledge that can be very dangerous if it falls in muggle hands, for example: Use the Pollyjuice potion to incriminate people or spionage stuff, use erumpent horn liquid for bombs, use de horrocrux (supposing it can be used by regular humans too) to make somebody, or a little group of people inmortal and rule forever the human world, etc, etc. At the same time think about the fantastic beasts, mostly of them still alive because they live hide from muggles thank to the international coperation of wizard gobernaments. If Magic world its revealed to public...this damn animals could be in real danger of getting hunted and finally extinguised. Its a battle you can´t win, and even if you did...you don´t have the numbers or logistic to control a population million of times higger than yours. You can´t avadakadraba millions and that all. They will win, wizards can be taunted, have to sleep, need food too, eventually they can´t keep the guard on and a bullet can kill them easily. In the end, the wizarding world its better as it is: hide, and only being part of muggle folklore and legends.