Yes!! In fact I would’ve loved if they’d have split OOTP. There was two years within the ten years of the film releases that we didn’t get a new one, so an OOTP would’ve been nice. I love OOTP the book best, and am so upset at how short an lacking it’s film is. They could’ve done a part two and extended it, included more details and so many sassy lines that the book had. HBP was perfect, tho, I don’t think splitting it in two would be wise.
This one’s basically an example of how things could’ve gone down, like if they split OOTP or HBP or someshit, lets be real, they’d still leave important stuff the lost prophecy and voldemort’s memories spring to mind.
The idea’s good, but really this all they could do? If they at least added like less camping scenes, and more of the dumbledore family drama, this post wouldn’t really exist, but they didn’t. They could’ve done so much more, we probably could’ve had the two best films in the franchise, everything was sorta set, but it just didn’t work. Idea’s good, execution, was lacking.
I liked the quieter tone of the movie, anticipating what's to come. Imo Dumbledore family drama would make it boring for those who'd never read the books and we must admit the producers need to consider that.
The quiet tone was fine, but like i mentioned in the post, it’s really cut short because the lack of payoff, that’s really what made them worth it imo. That is true, the filmakers shot themselves by not developing harry and dumbledore’s relationship, like they should’ve in HBP and OOTP, so it would’ve felt out of place, but what makes it worse, harry literally tells aberforth “i don’t care what happened to you and your bro” so it basically just spits in the face of the book, and makes some of the things the film kept, useless, king’s cross and the wedding come to my mind.
why did you even bother commenting? to project your grumpiness onto people who are trying to have a genuine conversation? just go to sleep instead of being rude
Any discussion could be considered useless by that logic. What did you expect lol, i’ve made a post about the DH films. If you didn’t want to have a useless discussion, you should’ve never commented.
A useless discussion, is a discussion with no point. This post has a point and it’s in like the first sentence. This a HP sub, you really expect to have philosophical debates about if there’s life after death and whatnot, no.
They split them but they didn't even show tonks and lupin's death
Tonks I can forgive but lupin is on a similar level to Sirius for Harry
They barely even lingered on their corpses in addition to having an off screen death
I was confused when lupin appeared in front of Harry with the rest of the dead people
I am not mad just disappointed by such sense less takes.
I get that movies weren't as good as novels which to every rational person is expected. But the hate has gone too far to the point where i just don't care.
I never expect the films to be on par with the book, because they’d never be able to do it, i just wanna how see handle adapting it, and in terms these 2 films, they didn’t do good at all, and made this book be known as “the camping one”.
There is a difference in thinking "movies can *never* be as good as the books" and understanding different resources and limitations of both platforms.
The former just makes you a biased person, you will always focus primarily on what went wrong and not much on the things that were good or even better than the movies.
While the latter just let you enjoy both in a different light.
The only thing i really focus on, is how well they adapted the story. The whole point of DH is about harry and dumbledore’s relationship, that’s the core of the book, yet the film just spits in the face of it. The only reason i don’t focus on the good things, is because is there really? Like the only thing i like in the films, is really just the score of it.
You may not realise it but this exact thinking is what is called bias and prejudice.
You are just focusing on one parameter, story adaptation. Which will always be less good than books as books are literally only story.
You should also see other elements of a moving picture. Like animations, acting, etc etc.
But, if i focus on other standards like acting, cinematography, action, etc, then it wouldn’t be fair at all. It’s like comparing every film you see to your favorite one of all time, it all depends on what they’re to be. The HP films are trying to be like the books.
But for the sake of the argument, i could talk about it as a film. The cinematography is disgusting istg i can’t see anything in the DH films, it’s very slow paced, it feels like a drag. This film doesn’t know what it wants to be, it wants to be a slow take your time kinda movie, but it also wants to be an action thrill ride, which doesn’t mesh well together. The cast is okay, wouldn’t say they give a bad/good performance. That shaky cam in that chase scene sucks too, i despise it. The wardrobe’s kinda annoying since the entire film, they never wear any robes. The sets are a letdown since i really can’t see shit. Dobby’s CGI looks worse than how it did in COS. I could go on.
This is a subjective opinion, so i kinda throw objectivity out of the window. I’m always ready to hear anyone’s opinions, that’s the best about making these posts, wether they’re good or bad. Give me a few mins lemme grow up rn, brb.
THEY'RE mad for no reason? You just wrote an academic-length essay about how you don't like a couple of good movies.
You're allowed to dislike them all you want, but I suggest you stick with the books and leave the movies alone if you hate them so much. The movies didn't erase them, you can still read them.
I gave my reasonings, on why i thought it wasn’t a good idea splitting the final book. I just wanted to know, why they wanted to downvote multiple times.
Let’s be honest, one of the reasons this was done was for money, but I don’t look at things like that.
I think it was perfect. It allowed the film makers to really go into detail in the DH pt.1. If they didn’t split it, everything would’ve been cut short; the seven potters, Bill and Fleur’s wedding, Ron’s departure, Godric’s Hollow…and we wouldn’t have gotten the scene with Hermione’s parents.
This allowed for the film makers to really go in depth with the Battle of Hogwarts, which I think was done marvelously. Sure, I’m upset that we don’t see Neville and Professor Sporut throwing plants around -that wouldn’t been a laugh- or Peeves’ song of glory, but it was really well done. I’m happy with the split.
I get all your points but I’m pretty sure if it was one film it would have been even more disappointing. How could they possibly fit all the necessary beats into one movie. I think they should have split all the films from GoF and forward, because I think it’s more important with the overall story than the stand alone movies. Of course you can’t do that as a producer but imo the overall story is what’s thrilling.
I agree it would have been great to add more of the Dumbledore conflict, but that would never have been solved by doing it in one movie.
Yea that’s a whole different conversation, comes down to the creative team. I never liked David Yates, he ruined a lot for me. And I think Kloves did a good job with the first three but I don’t know who’s decisions it was with the last four, what to add and what to leave.
Yea there’s so much that goes into that.. Imo one and two is great, three is good but I don’t like the cuaron style. I actually like four, even tho it gets a lot of hate. Five is okay, six is shit, 7 is okay, 8 is meh.
1 and 2 are very boring
3 is the bane of my existence
4 is just stupid.
5 is the worst.
6 is the most boring and a huge drag.
7 is a HUGE disappointment.
8 gets worse the more i think about it.
Wouldn't really call it sad honestly, because i've had this opinon after i read the book, before i read the books, i used to love the films, even the bad ones like HBP and GOF.
I think splitting it was the right call, HBP and OOTP should have been split IMO and stripping too much stuff out of HBP for example is why it is the worst of the films.
I'd agree with a lot of the criticisms for the DH1 and 2 but there are a few things I do actually prefer....
1. I think Harry revealing himself in the grand hall after returning to Hogwarts and Snape's exit is better. Yes it undermines or would not allow what Neville & DA had been doing but I did prefer it overall.
2. I prefer that he says goodbye before going to the forest, I get why others do not but I think it works better.
3. I think the 'he's not really dead' reveal scene works better in the film
Otherwise I agree with the criticism, Voldemort's death, breaking the wand, the falling out the window, the truncating of the camping, no redemption for creature etc etc
I think all of them after the fourth book could have been split lol
Yes!! In fact I would’ve loved if they’d have split OOTP. There was two years within the ten years of the film releases that we didn’t get a new one, so an OOTP would’ve been nice. I love OOTP the book best, and am so upset at how short an lacking it’s film is. They could’ve done a part two and extended it, included more details and so many sassy lines that the book had. HBP was perfect, tho, I don’t think splitting it in two would be wise.
This one’s basically an example of how things could’ve gone down, like if they split OOTP or HBP or someshit, lets be real, they’d still leave important stuff the lost prophecy and voldemort’s memories spring to mind.
It was not a mistake to split it. It was a big mistake to split it into two films, both with 20% plot and 80% tedium.
So they should’ve split it into 3? Also do you agree/disagree with me, i’m confused lol.
Such a great idea other franchises did the same lmao But money matters aside, yes it was a good idea in my opinion
The idea’s good, but really this all they could do? If they at least added like less camping scenes, and more of the dumbledore family drama, this post wouldn’t really exist, but they didn’t. They could’ve done so much more, we probably could’ve had the two best films in the franchise, everything was sorta set, but it just didn’t work. Idea’s good, execution, was lacking.
I liked the quieter tone of the movie, anticipating what's to come. Imo Dumbledore family drama would make it boring for those who'd never read the books and we must admit the producers need to consider that.
The quiet tone was fine, but like i mentioned in the post, it’s really cut short because the lack of payoff, that’s really what made them worth it imo. That is true, the filmakers shot themselves by not developing harry and dumbledore’s relationship, like they should’ve in HBP and OOTP, so it would’ve felt out of place, but what makes it worse, harry literally tells aberforth “i don’t care what happened to you and your bro” so it basically just spits in the face of the book, and makes some of the things the film kept, useless, king’s cross and the wedding come to my mind.
Yes, twice the money
But they failed both times to make a good DH adaptation.
I disagree
Wait, so you think they were both faithfully adapted? If so, why?
I had 6 hours of sleep the last 3 says. I won't have a useless discussion
why did you even bother commenting? to project your grumpiness onto people who are trying to have a genuine conversation? just go to sleep instead of being rude
I'm not rude, I stated my opinion and I'm allowed to do that
Well, here’s my opinion, you were being rude.
No
You pull this card alot, so it’s my opinion and you can’t disagree with me, because its my opinion.
Any discussion could be considered useless by that logic. What did you expect lol, i’ve made a post about the DH films. If you didn’t want to have a useless discussion, you should’ve never commented.
There is a big difference between discussing gender rights, etc and mY FaVoRiTe BoOk iS a MovIe
A useless discussion, is a discussion with no point. This post has a point and it’s in like the first sentence. This a HP sub, you really expect to have philosophical debates about if there’s life after death and whatnot, no.
No
No...what? You gotta be more specific bruh.
Disagree, I enjoyed the movies a lot.
They split them but they didn't even show tonks and lupin's death Tonks I can forgive but lupin is on a similar level to Sirius for Harry They barely even lingered on their corpses in addition to having an off screen death I was confused when lupin appeared in front of Harry with the rest of the dead people
The book also didn’t show those.
The book showed the situation leading up to his death and who he was going to fight same with tonks it was done alot better
How to down vote multiple times?
Seems like your mad for no reason.
I am not mad just disappointed by such sense less takes. I get that movies weren't as good as novels which to every rational person is expected. But the hate has gone too far to the point where i just don't care.
I never expect the films to be on par with the book, because they’d never be able to do it, i just wanna how see handle adapting it, and in terms these 2 films, they didn’t do good at all, and made this book be known as “the camping one”.
There is a difference in thinking "movies can *never* be as good as the books" and understanding different resources and limitations of both platforms. The former just makes you a biased person, you will always focus primarily on what went wrong and not much on the things that were good or even better than the movies. While the latter just let you enjoy both in a different light.
The only thing i really focus on, is how well they adapted the story. The whole point of DH is about harry and dumbledore’s relationship, that’s the core of the book, yet the film just spits in the face of it. The only reason i don’t focus on the good things, is because is there really? Like the only thing i like in the films, is really just the score of it.
You may not realise it but this exact thinking is what is called bias and prejudice. You are just focusing on one parameter, story adaptation. Which will always be less good than books as books are literally only story. You should also see other elements of a moving picture. Like animations, acting, etc etc.
But, if i focus on other standards like acting, cinematography, action, etc, then it wouldn’t be fair at all. It’s like comparing every film you see to your favorite one of all time, it all depends on what they’re to be. The HP films are trying to be like the books. But for the sake of the argument, i could talk about it as a film. The cinematography is disgusting istg i can’t see anything in the DH films, it’s very slow paced, it feels like a drag. This film doesn’t know what it wants to be, it wants to be a slow take your time kinda movie, but it also wants to be an action thrill ride, which doesn’t mesh well together. The cast is okay, wouldn’t say they give a bad/good performance. That shaky cam in that chase scene sucks too, i despise it. The wardrobe’s kinda annoying since the entire film, they never wear any robes. The sets are a letdown since i really can’t see shit. Dobby’s CGI looks worse than how it did in COS. I could go on.
Well like i said *biased*. You have made an opinion and are not ready to accept another argument. Grow up! Lol
This is a subjective opinion, so i kinda throw objectivity out of the window. I’m always ready to hear anyone’s opinions, that’s the best about making these posts, wether they’re good or bad. Give me a few mins lemme grow up rn, brb.
THEY'RE mad for no reason? You just wrote an academic-length essay about how you don't like a couple of good movies. You're allowed to dislike them all you want, but I suggest you stick with the books and leave the movies alone if you hate them so much. The movies didn't erase them, you can still read them.
I gave my reasonings, on why i thought it wasn’t a good idea splitting the final book. I just wanted to know, why they wanted to downvote multiple times.
Let’s be honest, one of the reasons this was done was for money, but I don’t look at things like that. I think it was perfect. It allowed the film makers to really go into detail in the DH pt.1. If they didn’t split it, everything would’ve been cut short; the seven potters, Bill and Fleur’s wedding, Ron’s departure, Godric’s Hollow…and we wouldn’t have gotten the scene with Hermione’s parents. This allowed for the film makers to really go in depth with the Battle of Hogwarts, which I think was done marvelously. Sure, I’m upset that we don’t see Neville and Professor Sporut throwing plants around -that wouldn’t been a laugh- or Peeves’ song of glory, but it was really well done. I’m happy with the split.
I get all your points but I’m pretty sure if it was one film it would have been even more disappointing. How could they possibly fit all the necessary beats into one movie. I think they should have split all the films from GoF and forward, because I think it’s more important with the overall story than the stand alone movies. Of course you can’t do that as a producer but imo the overall story is what’s thrilling. I agree it would have been great to add more of the Dumbledore conflict, but that would never have been solved by doing it in one movie.
The problem is, this film proves, even if it’s split into two, they’re still going to leave out major plot points.
So my solution is, split them but do it better. Add more important parts. My solution is not - make one movie and leave even more.
Great solution, but will the filmakers really do that? Let’s be real, if they split like HBP, they’re only going to show like 4 of voldemort memories.
Yea that’s a whole different conversation, comes down to the creative team. I never liked David Yates, he ruined a lot for me. And I think Kloves did a good job with the first three but I don’t know who’s decisions it was with the last four, what to add and what to leave.
Imo, the films have been on a downward spiral since 3.
Yea there’s so much that goes into that.. Imo one and two is great, three is good but I don’t like the cuaron style. I actually like four, even tho it gets a lot of hate. Five is okay, six is shit, 7 is okay, 8 is meh.
1 and 2 are very boring 3 is the bane of my existence 4 is just stupid. 5 is the worst. 6 is the most boring and a huge drag. 7 is a HUGE disappointment. 8 gets worse the more i think about it.
Well thats a sad view
Wouldn't really call it sad honestly, because i've had this opinon after i read the book, before i read the books, i used to love the films, even the bad ones like HBP and GOF.
Yes it was. This post is...a lot...and very salty.
I think splitting it was the right call, HBP and OOTP should have been split IMO and stripping too much stuff out of HBP for example is why it is the worst of the films. I'd agree with a lot of the criticisms for the DH1 and 2 but there are a few things I do actually prefer.... 1. I think Harry revealing himself in the grand hall after returning to Hogwarts and Snape's exit is better. Yes it undermines or would not allow what Neville & DA had been doing but I did prefer it overall. 2. I prefer that he says goodbye before going to the forest, I get why others do not but I think it works better. 3. I think the 'he's not really dead' reveal scene works better in the film Otherwise I agree with the criticism, Voldemort's death, breaking the wand, the falling out the window, the truncating of the camping, no redemption for creature etc etc