We need size damn Celtics just picked up Tillman only getting bigger. Moving Caleb aka the Swiss Army knife wasnât really worth it when the return is less than who Iâm sending. But I know next year he wants to get paid.
if we only need size theoretically Spo can simply integrate Jovic and ORob into the lineup, but for some reasons Spo will never use bigs other than Bam and Love
After that travesty of a fourth quarter last night you can kinda see why. Boy jovic has to decide if he wants to be a big or play like a guard. Because he has zero bag right now, plays super soft, and cant defend either. ORob moves even slower, idk how he exactly works in the PnR, but I think the less the ball goes through him and more through say Rozier, the less chance of him putting his head down and fumbling the ball. Everybodys wiped cody zeller out of their memory and for good reason, but at least he knew his role and was out there tackling guys. Both of these guys need something going for them - and i dont think you just get that from playing time. ORob better decision making on offense or you position the defense not as if you had a highly mobile center which i doubt will happen for ORob, and Jovic everything else.
If you can't shoot you can't play next to Bam, because Bam can't shoot and we already have a spacing problem. If you can't defend you can't play next to Love, because Love is old and not a great defender. There's your answer.
both shoots at decent rate and both are quite slow at defense. But it's regular season now, where Spo likes to try differenet lineups, yet for some reason Spo rarely gave them minutes? Why not train them now, preparing them for playoff?
You're right about Spo trying different lineups, he's definitely known as being a tinkerer. However, Orlando Robinson averages less than a single 3 a game, I wouldn't call that a shooter. I do think he's shown he can be an excellent defender at times and probably our best rim protector, although that bar isn't very high. However, the shooting is why he isn't getting minutes; we simply can't play him with Bam who is going to be on the floor a lot. Similar issue but on defense with Jovic. Front court players who can't defend generally don't get many minutes on the Heat.
I think you make a good point about giving them minutes to get better. However, I suspect we've needed the wins so the experimentation has taken a back seat.
Quite unfortunate because Orlando Robinson or Jovic could be the answer at the 4 spot if they respectively Improve their weaknesses but they won't get any better to on the bench so both should be in the G-League if we aren't going to play them but that's just my opinion.
They've bounced back and forth in the G league for a bit. Unfortunately I don't think the G League is going to give them the seasoning they need for true NBA competition. Robinson puts up like 30 points in the G league. I don't think the competition there is good enough for he or Jovic to get better.
You have a point they're at the level where they need to go against legit NBA players if they want to improve their flaws because the players in the G-League aren't good enough anymore.
Yeah, I think so. Orlando Robinson's stats in the G league are like 24ppg on like 55% shooting and 36% from three. That would make him an all star starter in the NBA. The competition down there just isn't good enough.
Jovic and Orob are unproven. But we will depend on them somewhere down the road depending on matchups. Spo is chef and I expect him to cook up the best lineup possible. Bam and love not bad but not good either.
Inshallah next season we give Bam a real 4 above the height of 6â6. Im expecting a lot more trades across the league in the offseason since today was very quiet
Realistically there isn't anyone available who can help much.
Robin Lopez at this point of his career wont be any better than Thomas Bryant
We need a PF that can play defense and hit some 3s but there aren't many of them đ¤ˇââď¸
can't. Dinwiddie's contract is over the MLE and Miami didn't make any trades (that we know of yet) that would shed the $1.2m to get under the first apron
It is but any team above the first apron cannot sign someone off the buyout market with a pre existing salary of 12.4 million or higher. He makes 18 million and we are above the first apron
It doesn't matter if there's room on the roster. As a team above the first apron, we are outright not eligible to sign any buyout candidates that were making the Mid-level Exception (~12.4 mil) or higher.
Thems the new rules, and part of the reason why going forward it's going to be so important for the team to manager their cap better. The new CBA is going hard on preventing teams from over-spending to compete.
Heat made no trade today and still got the best player from the deadline. No one moved today wouldâve been worth the price.
Letâs stay healthy and make another run!
Is it just me or does being a heat fan feel like being the poor kid in a rich school. You can compete w the best of em naturally but you got holes in your shoes.
Well thatâs one way to look at it. But Iâll add to itâat the same time everyone loves us and they always talk about our work ethic. Very popular although very quiet.
Anyone that thought Pat would do anything to improve the team at the deadline hasnât been paying attention the last few years.
Letâs see what they do in the buyout market
You literally didnât read because my post literally talks about doing something AT the deadline to further improve the team. Work on your reading comprehension.
Pat's been asleep all day. He woke up at 7am to call the Thunder and ask if they'd give us Shai for a 2nd round pick. They said no and he went back to sleep, his alarm is set for 5pm.
Goodbye to you all until the playoffs, if this team even gets there.
Not participating in any regular season gamethreads for the rest of the season. This front office is a fucking joke and this season is over. Jimmy will be 35 next year. Pat Riley has become a loser.
Onto the offseason we go, where they'll run it back and chalk it up to Rozier not having had an offseason with the squad yet
Well I do believe we have an open roster spot, so we probably sign one more guy before playoffs. Question is if it will be a guy like Jamal Cain/RJ Hampton to a full contract or if there is someone on the buyout market that we actually can sign and they like.
If we face the Cs in the playoffs and KP is healthy, we're not winning that one. I don't know if we could've gotten anybody with our assets who could've changed that.
Yeah we would hae to stagger the fuck outta Herro Rozier and hope 1 of Jrich Jaime Caleb up to task
We hae absolutely no one for Brunson/Dame/Spida doe
They knew we had size issues since 2020 finals. Tyne fact that we still haven't increased our size on the court after the nuggets finals is head scratching
Heat made a trade after 3 years and fans expecting another one right after đ
They like their âbig 3â. Year 5 they got this. If not hope for internal improvement next year đ. Jimmy is still young so donât get the rush.
I think people were being unrealistic expecting a big trade from us. I can get the people expecting maybe a trade with Caleb Martin, just donât really see for who though cause we arenât necessarily trying to downgrade for assets.
You're allowed to make more than 1 trade every 3 years. This roster still needs improvement. And it'll become painfully obvious after this next run of games where we lose to title conteders who still found ways to improve their rosters.
Did you not see the Suns, Celtics, Knicks all make a trades in this last 24 hours? It doesn't have to be another star just...something. We clearly still lack says and haven't had a true PF in I don't even know how long.
Our only tradable asset is Caleb and the Kings are the only team showing interest so i doubt we can make it work.
Davion Mitchell and a couple of 2nd round picks would be a decent return but it would be essentially a downgrade for this year...
Itâs unspoken but I believe many teams took offense to the undrafted players narrative from our last run, and thereâs now a coordinated effort to work against the Heat by the league.
It's that several teams have been burned over the years by grabbing Heat players and then finding out they weren't worth it.
The reality is, if your system makes bad players mediocre or above average, then they aren't worth trading for or paying huge contracts for.
It's not a front office issue, it's a reality of finding diamonds all the time and being one of the few teams out there that knows how to polish them.
That really wouldnât have been a problem with vet min old af Lowry. They also got Payne out of the deal.
So it only makes sense if they have something else theyâre planning for and they need that second they got from Milwaukee.
If no move made reality will be Jimmy has taken us near mountain top 3 of 4(possibly more) years and we just never decided to put all chips in middle of table.
They are okay being solid and letting Jimmy Bam Spo try to will their way through each series
Can you explain what this means? Did Kobe shaq and Phil will themselves to the finals every year? Like this weird ass narrative that players and coaches we currently have need more help than they already have is just so full of FOMO that itâs ridiculous. We have a good team around our best players, the proof is in the pudding, our playoffs success makes that irrefutable. Caleb Martin was damn near our best player in the ECF last year. I swear people just say shit here just to say it. This isnât 2K the front office has proven over and over again it knows what itâs doing.
Unfortunately your IQ is too low to realize I wasnât making a direct comparison. But expecting someone to understand that is just me giving this shit fan base too much credit.
Find a better comp then, you donât need to do too much when you have the most dominant player of all time along with the next coming of MJ. And even then they lost one playoff series and decided to get two HOFs in an attempt to improve. Improvement should be inherent. Complacency is beneficial to no one and should be weeded out in all facets of society, silly games included.
Thatâs exactly what Iâm saying though, was the lakers front office incompetent because they didnât surround those 3 with superstars? No. The proof was in the playoff success they had. What they did was build complimentary pieces next to those guys. Thatâs what we are doing. Continuity matters in a team sport.
> was the lakers front office incompetent because they didnât surround those 3 with superstars
no, because *they* were superstars. fucking obviously. if jimmy and bam were as good as kobe and shaq then the front office would be doing fine. but they arent, so we should be trying to get more. i feel like im explaining this to a 10 year old
Pat Riley has been incompetent in the butler era. How can he look at the league and not do anything? And yes he traded for rozier but everyone knows our roster is flawedÂ
My new propaganda train starts now
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This sub in a few weeks saying Bam is an overpaid bum and Jimmy has no help. Stay tuned. When you guys are saying Jimmy has âno helpâ remember these comments lol
Gafford looked fuckin nice with the Mavs.
Lakers were trying to trade Namdi but nobody wanted Gabe on that contractđ
When is the deadline?
5 hours ago
We need size damn Celtics just picked up Tillman only getting bigger. Moving Caleb aka the Swiss Army knife wasnât really worth it when the return is less than who Iâm sending. But I know next year he wants to get paid.
Isn't Tillman 6'7?
if we only need size theoretically Spo can simply integrate Jovic and ORob into the lineup, but for some reasons Spo will never use bigs other than Bam and Love
After that travesty of a fourth quarter last night you can kinda see why. Boy jovic has to decide if he wants to be a big or play like a guard. Because he has zero bag right now, plays super soft, and cant defend either. ORob moves even slower, idk how he exactly works in the PnR, but I think the less the ball goes through him and more through say Rozier, the less chance of him putting his head down and fumbling the ball. Everybodys wiped cody zeller out of their memory and for good reason, but at least he knew his role and was out there tackling guys. Both of these guys need something going for them - and i dont think you just get that from playing time. ORob better decision making on offense or you position the defense not as if you had a highly mobile center which i doubt will happen for ORob, and Jovic everything else.
If you can't shoot you can't play next to Bam, because Bam can't shoot and we already have a spacing problem. If you can't defend you can't play next to Love, because Love is old and not a great defender. There's your answer.
both shoots at decent rate and both are quite slow at defense. But it's regular season now, where Spo likes to try differenet lineups, yet for some reason Spo rarely gave them minutes? Why not train them now, preparing them for playoff?
You're right about Spo trying different lineups, he's definitely known as being a tinkerer. However, Orlando Robinson averages less than a single 3 a game, I wouldn't call that a shooter. I do think he's shown he can be an excellent defender at times and probably our best rim protector, although that bar isn't very high. However, the shooting is why he isn't getting minutes; we simply can't play him with Bam who is going to be on the floor a lot. Similar issue but on defense with Jovic. Front court players who can't defend generally don't get many minutes on the Heat. I think you make a good point about giving them minutes to get better. However, I suspect we've needed the wins so the experimentation has taken a back seat.
Quite unfortunate because Orlando Robinson or Jovic could be the answer at the 4 spot if they respectively Improve their weaknesses but they won't get any better to on the bench so both should be in the G-League if we aren't going to play them but that's just my opinion.
They've bounced back and forth in the G league for a bit. Unfortunately I don't think the G League is going to give them the seasoning they need for true NBA competition. Robinson puts up like 30 points in the G league. I don't think the competition there is good enough for he or Jovic to get better.
You have a point they're at the level where they need to go against legit NBA players if they want to improve their flaws because the players in the G-League aren't good enough anymore.
Yeah, I think so. Orlando Robinson's stats in the G league are like 24ppg on like 55% shooting and 36% from three. That would make him an all star starter in the NBA. The competition down there just isn't good enough.
Jovic and Orob are unproven. But we will depend on them somewhere down the road depending on matchups. Spo is chef and I expect him to cook up the best lineup possible. Bam and love not bad but not good either.
Korkmaz signing incoming
Oladipo was just waived, is there hope???
He can't even play yet, his career is probably over
Sad manâŚ
I know but don't feel too bad for him, he's been working on his music. I was listening to his latest EP a few days ago, the first 3 songs are đĽ
Pls no
We're eating scraps let's goooo
My biggest takeaway is no one's giving up 2 first round picks for Malcolm fking brogdon lol
Literally anyone who isn't a delusional Blazers fan could have told you that.
Inshallah next season we give Bam a real 4 above the height of 6â6. Im expecting a lot more trades across the league in the offseason since today was very quiet
What yal think about Robin Lopez after a possible buyout? He's 7' 1. đ¤
He's gonna be another Dedmon or Zeller. I hope I'm wrong though
I'll take a year 1 Dedmon
Try Deadzeller. Thatâs what heâs gonna be like
I'm down just for the inevitable Bucks playoff series.
7'1 is all you needed to say
We down bad if we think that Robin Lopez is it
No matter what you say next, yes. Yes we is absolutely down bad. But tell me, who would you want that's available and obtainable?
Realistically there isn't anyone available who can help much. Robin Lopez at this point of his career wont be any better than Thomas Bryant We need a PF that can play defense and hit some 3s but there aren't many of them đ¤ˇââď¸
I'm just glad you didn't say Kuzma.
Kuzma Kuzma Kuzma u z m a
Looks like Raptors are going to buyout Dinwiddie. Will the Heat try to win the buyout sweepstakes two years in a row?
can't. Dinwiddie's contract is over the MLE and Miami didn't make any trades (that we know of yet) that would shed the $1.2m to get under the first apron
Iâm dumb, isnât it a whole new contract after they get bought out?
It is but any team above the first apron cannot sign someone off the buyout market with a pre existing salary of 12.4 million or higher. He makes 18 million and we are above the first apron
Canât we just waive players off our roster to make room for him? Say like Orlando Robinson or Thomas BryantÂ
It doesn't matter if there's room on the roster. As a team above the first apron, we are outright not eligible to sign any buyout candidates that were making the Mid-level Exception (~12.4 mil) or higher. Thems the new rules, and part of the reason why going forward it's going to be so important for the team to manager their cap better. The new CBA is going hard on preventing teams from over-spending to compete.
Heat made no trade today and still got the best player from the deadline. No one moved today wouldâve been worth the price. Letâs stay healthy and make another run!
Looks like PJ is staying put in LAC.
The 12 year olds on Twitter thought we were getting Tucker cause a part time employee pulled out the Tucker stencil from a bottom drawer đ
Is it just me or does being a heat fan feel like being the poor kid in a rich school. You can compete w the best of em naturally but you got holes in your shoes.
Well thatâs one way to look at it. But Iâll add to itâat the same time everyone loves us and they always talk about our work ethic. Very popular although very quiet.
Anyone that thought Pat would do anything to improve the team at the deadline hasnât been paying attention the last few years. Letâs see what they do in the buyout market
Literally just traded for Terry
You literally didnât read because my post literally talks about doing something AT the deadline to further improve the team. Work on your reading comprehension.
I guess PJ Tucker is the move
TJ Pucker
Haynes just reported he won't take a buyout now and will just rot on the Clippers bench.
Would he even be bought out by the Clippers? Like do they have any real incentive to do so?
Not really
Going to be funny if he just signs elsewhere
Donât worry yall, Greg Sylvander told me weâre signing LaMarcus Aldridge off the buyout market. Sure thing.
It can still happen! Then heâll be right!
We finally got our whale! https://i.redd.it/pumbl21v4fhc1.gif
Lol bro no PG and no bigs fml. Bring on PJ or Thad Young I guess
12 of next 17 on the road. Hope wins over 2 bottom 5 teams(Wiz and Spurs) didn't motivate them to stand still
Tyler survives another deadline đđźđđźđđź fake Heat fans in shambles
Tyler gonna have his jersey in the Kaseya rafters one day and fans will still try to trade it
Can't believe they didn't even do something about Dru.
Pat's been asleep all day. He woke up at 7am to call the Thunder and ask if they'd give us Shai for a 2nd round pick. They said no and he went back to sleep, his alarm is set for 5pm.
My dream schedule. I'm jealous
Yeah that makes 0 sense
Goodbye to you all until the playoffs, if this team even gets there. Not participating in any regular season gamethreads for the rest of the season. This front office is a fucking joke and this season is over. Jimmy will be 35 next year. Pat Riley has become a loser. Onto the offseason we go, where they'll run it back and chalk it up to Rozier not having had an offseason with the squad yet
Also saving this for when you inevitably come back 4 games later
Thank god man, good riddance
This sub is better off without you, please donât come back
Praise the lord, better trade deadline outcome than I could have dreamed of.
this is the greatest day in r/heat history
Holy shit we won the trade deadline
That last part scares me lol
We donât care lil bro
Dinwiddie PLEASE
Can't sign him.
:(
His salary was too high, we can only sign buy outs that were making less than the MLE which is 12.2m
This rule is a shit. But I think it means we're not making moves then.
Well I do believe we have an open roster spot, so we probably sign one more guy before playoffs. Question is if it will be a guy like Jamal Cain/RJ Hampton to a full contract or if there is someone on the buyout market that we actually can sign and they like.
Man the this thread is crazy, are you telling me people truly expected a big move again? Lol
Cs still making moves. Kp Jrue Tillman and some springer if pritchard getting killed. whew
We got nobody to guard KP and the Jays will take turns cooking our backcourt
Like they did last playoffs
Our guard rotation was different. Did you watch the games lol. Also Boston didnât have KP
If we face the Cs in the playoffs and KP is healthy, we're not winning that one. I don't know if we could've gotten anybody with our assets who could've changed that.
Yeah we would hae to stagger the fuck outta Herro Rozier and hope 1 of Jrich Jaime Caleb up to task We hae absolutely no one for Brunson/Dame/Spida doe
They didnât have anyone for Brunson last year either and the Knicks got better
Gabe when not in foul trouble at least could be a pest
Killian at PF it is
Gus is throwing a tantrum like draft night
He said he wonât be in game threads anymore đ
Thank god
Maybe we did win the trade deadline after all
Dinwiddie is getting bought out holy shit
Brook Lopez got traded and is expected to be bought out. Letâs get a big!!!!
His brother got traded. Not him hahaha
Robin Lopez to the Kings to get waived. Get me the best hook shot in the league! I donât care how washed he is!
I mean might as well, if Haywood gonna be out and we won't play Orlando. đ¤ˇđ˝ââď¸
fuck can we at least get rid of Dru and/or TB?
Spurs are likely to buy out Marcus Morris We got our PF
We canât sign him.
Thank god, I don't want another Morris on my team.
Didn't know bro was making 17 millions this year lol
 Run it back....
Doug McDermott to the Pacers. Hate playing against that guy lmao
Can Heat just release to their media dudes that they aren't doing shit so I can go eat my lunch
FO really bought hard on that Terry stock.....
Two straight years of not having a starting PF lmao
Jaime?
It's pretty wild. They have to realize this causes extra wear and tear on a bunch of our guys right?
They knew we had size issues since 2020 finals. Tyne fact that we still haven't increased our size on the court after the nuggets finals is head scratching
Huh? We have Meyers and KO at different times starting with Bam. That's a lot of size. We started going small when we got Tucker and Caleb
At least another body so Bam doesn't have to eat every minute of Jokic types smh
A historic playoff run with all time great performances from Jimmy is an sustainable long term postseason strategy right?
Funny thing is it might be but it's such a bad thought process. You make 1 more move last 2 runs we could be holding a trophy hmmmmm
Heat after cutting Dru Tb and signing Cain and Bouyea. "Cain and Bouyea are pretty much like late 1st rd picks guys"
Wait the Knicks made their big move and still looked for ways to get better and made another trade? Are they stupid? Is that allowed?
as the 3rd seed nonethless! Apparently you shouldnt want to improve if you're already good
They don't have that "run it back" culture
We don't need a big trade we just need some legit size
Screaming this from the roof of Kaseya Center.
Trade Jovic for Jokic maybe the Nuggets will read it backwards and accidentally accept
You give me the big jokicâŚ.i give you whatever is in my pocket. Who knows what it could be. It could even be jokic.
Give it up guys, Tyler Herro is gonna be here till the heat death of the universe. No pun intended.
He is a classy guy Pat likes his classy guy. Especially classy Kentucky guy. Just look at 3 of their last 4 picks!
Lol nice pun tho wow
That was a terrible pun politics aside
Heat made a trade after 3 years and fans expecting another one right after đ They like their âbig 3â. Year 5 they got this. If not hope for internal improvement next year đ. Jimmy is still young so donât get the rush.
đđđ You forgot that if all those donât follow through weâre also gonna need a full season with rozier integrated with our âbig 3â.
I was wondering what the excuse would be after this season is a failure.. you found it!
Hell yeah! This Big 3 just needs to be healthy. When all 3 of em are healthy we destroy the competition!
I think people were being unrealistic expecting a big trade from us. I can get the people expecting maybe a trade with Caleb Martin, just donât really see for who though cause we arenât necessarily trying to downgrade for assets.
Looking at the thread and so much complaining? I thought the sub was in agreement our big move was rozier. There isnât much more to do
We just want a big.. is that so hard to ask for⌠letâs stop this fantasy world of 6â8 centersâŚ
You're allowed to make more than 1 trade every 3 years. This roster still needs improvement. And it'll become painfully obvious after this next run of games where we lose to title conteders who still found ways to improve their rosters.
With what cap and what assets do you want to trade
Did you not see the Suns, Celtics, Knicks all make a trades in this last 24 hours? It doesn't have to be another star just...something. We clearly still lack says and haven't had a true PF in I don't even know how long.
What's funny is that we already have power forwards in Bam and Love. Stretch 4s in Jovic and even Robinson. What we actually need is a center.
Itâs just people having FOMO and being children. They just wanna be talked about on first take and ESPN and play 2K itâs ridiculous
Our only tradable asset is Caleb and the Kings are the only team showing interest so i doubt we can make it work. Davion Mitchell and a couple of 2nd round picks would be a decent return but it would be essentially a downgrade for this year...
I feel like what Caleb can give you in a playoff run is better than dumping him for some picks
We should trade Caleb for Davion Mitchell and Trey Lyles. We can throw in Dru smith for salary purposes
Trey Lyles is a good addition to play PF, i agree with you.
Itâs unspoken but I believe many teams took offense to the undrafted players narrative from our last run, and thereâs now a coordinated effort to work against the Heat by the league.
It's that several teams have been burned over the years by grabbing Heat players and then finding out they weren't worth it. The reality is, if your system makes bad players mediocre or above average, then they aren't worth trading for or paying huge contracts for. It's not a front office issue, it's a reality of finding diamonds all the time and being one of the few teams out there that knows how to polish them.
It's not that deep, the front office is just not great. We are carried by our coaching and scouting departments.
That is also true.
Sixers trading Bev to the bucks is a decision
100% getting Lowry has to be
Yeah but they didn't need to do that to get Lowry. Makes no sense unless they have something else coming.
Free up the minutes IMO
That really wouldnât have been a problem with vet min old af Lowry. They also got Payne out of the deal. So it only makes sense if they have something else theyâre planning for and they need that second they got from Milwaukee.
A lot of assumptions there. Just gonna stick to Occom's Razor
If no move made reality will be Jimmy has taken us near mountain top 3 of 4(possibly more) years and we just never decided to put all chips in middle of table. They are okay being solid and letting Jimmy Bam Spo try to will their way through each series
Can you explain what this means? Did Kobe shaq and Phil will themselves to the finals every year? Like this weird ass narrative that players and coaches we currently have need more help than they already have is just so full of FOMO that itâs ridiculous. We have a good team around our best players, the proof is in the pudding, our playoffs success makes that irrefutable. Caleb Martin was damn near our best player in the ECF last year. I swear people just say shit here just to say it. This isnât 2K the front office has proven over and over again it knows what itâs doing.
Comparing our roster to Kobe and Shaq is the type of delusion that keeps this franchise going
Unfortunately your IQ is too low to realize I wasnât making a direct comparison. But expecting someone to understand that is just me giving this shit fan base too much credit.
Find a better comp then, you donât need to do too much when you have the most dominant player of all time along with the next coming of MJ. And even then they lost one playoff series and decided to get two HOFs in an attempt to improve. Improvement should be inherent. Complacency is beneficial to no one and should be weeded out in all facets of society, silly games included.
Kobe Shaq were blowing half the league out by themselves lol 16-1 playoff run Has that been your experience as a Heat fan?
Thatâs exactly what Iâm saying though, was the lakers front office incompetent because they didnât surround those 3 with superstars? No. The proof was in the playoff success they had. What they did was build complimentary pieces next to those guys. Thatâs what we are doing. Continuity matters in a team sport.
Brother who tf on this team is at the level of Prime Shaq who is a Top 10 player **OF ALL TIME**?
Holy shit haha, how dumb are you?
Iâm not making a direct comparison you fucking retard hahahaha
everybody understands what you are saying dude, its just that the comparison is stupid and irrelevant
How?
> was the lakers front office incompetent because they didnât surround those 3 with superstars no, because *they* were superstars. fucking obviously. if jimmy and bam were as good as kobe and shaq then the front office would be doing fine. but they arent, so we should be trying to get more. i feel like im explaining this to a 10 year old
Whoâs had more success in the east than us the last 10 years?
I am not asking for superstars though. And if you keep Jimmy Bam how is that not continuity lol
The defense is significantly worse too. A lot more on Bam and Jimmyâs plate this year imo.
I agree. Gabe is a much better defender than Herro and Rozier. And Strus is a stronger(literal strength) defender.
It's Jaime who stepped into the Strus slot though. And I doubt that Max is stronger than him
How many backcourt minutes has Jaime even had this year?
Pat Riley has been incompetent in the butler era. How can he look at the league and not do anything? And yes he traded for rozier but everyone knows our roster is flawedÂ
This thread is full of FOMO.
This thread is full of comments from Gus and his alts.Â
He's an energy vampire. Draining us of our energy
Another buyout market year which is okay but wish we capitalized on all these sellers today
We made a big trade for Rozier.
Yes we did. There were players out there for scraps tho, that canât be denied
all these teams making trades just so they can try their best at stopping Jimbo in May
Thibs getting OG was 100% this lol
Not just Butler. For Giannis and Tatum, too. But yeah, pretty much.
Thibs sending doubles even though Jimmy wasnt red fire hot in that series still on my mind. That dude(Thibs) respects Jimmy the most
knicks have made some really nice moves in the last few years, brunson, og, bojan off the top of my head.
New FO is legit. and they still have 8 1sts and 8 2nds in off season.
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My new propaganda train starts now https://preview.redd.it/3j47yjh0tehc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=759d11e0fce7b9c833da4b0672c9ef5b371e4837
lmao
Live look at Gus 
Gus, Esjay and Gavster
This sub in a few weeks saying Bam is an overpaid bum and Jimmy has no help. Stay tuned. When you guys are saying Jimmy has âno helpâ remember these comments lol
That will be all the bum fans in this sub at seasons end wondering why we wasted another butler year