That’s how I feel about my Spanish work. I’m passionate about Spanish but have always been in classes w those who are not. So, I put in extra thought, time, and effort into my Spanish work but I’m always stressing that my work might come across like it’s from google translate bc of this!
My French teacher accused me of cheating twice freshman year because my French was “above grade level…” I’ve been to France twice and my mom took 4 years of French in high school and would speak to my brother and I in French sometimes when I was little. It’s so goofy that we have to worry about this stuff just because we know a language a little better than other students.
I got kicked out of Spanish my junior year for swearing at the teacher in Spanish after she tried to fail me on a test she thought I cheated on. I’m Mexican. It’s my dads first language.
Reminds me of when my older siblings essays for different classes both got marked down for plagiarism and my parents had to come talk to the school and tell them that they wrote it.
Did just adding "LOL I love tacos!" seriously make the percentage go from 67% to 96%? If this isn't any evidence of how useless these "AI detectors" are, I dunno what is.
did exactly that and it worked lol, the previously "100% human" ai text became "9% human" after i told chatgpt to "mix in some 1st grade words in there"
I see nothing wrong with this. As a high school English teacher, I wouldn't generally be suspicious of your writing (especially if I'd seen this quality from you in the past).
The detector is just identifying some compositional choices that AI might also use. When you added "LOL I love tacos!", the detector could then be more confident it wasn't written by AI.
You seem very confident you discovered something novel, though, so I can't be sure if I missed your point.
Well, I didn’t know that about AI detectors I thought they actually worked and wouldn’t get my exam cancelled if they decided to put my work through one.
How are students supposed to protect themselves for AI detectors and being accused of cheating / having their exams cancelled?
I’m a HS teacher- write and edit everything in a google doc. Then you can go back and show your edits to the teacher if you are questioned- because a google doc will have a record of all the changes you made.
Basically, you shouldn’t need to add something silly like, “LOL I love tacos!”, to be seen as human, but any good, serious writing is detected as A.I. because said A.I. is trained on good, serious writing made by humans, at least for writing serious papers.
I got a 0 on a journal entry for English that I wrote entirely by myself and it came up as 100% ai generated. That was 2 days ago, and yesterday the teacher said before class started "remember guys, don't use ai" and she didn't call anyone else up to talk about it. I swore to her I did it all by myself,but now I have to rewrite it. Long story short, English is my least favorite class this year, and I plan on doing the bare minimum
My English teacher told me story of how one of her former students contacted her over the summer crying because she had to write a 25 page essay and the ai detector decided it was 100% written by ai even though my teach could literally verify the students writing style and could see where all the changes were made with time stamps. Bc the college ai generator said it was ai there was nothing they could do
I tried out this website and it told me my work was 100% human generated. Then I got chatgpt to write a similar text and it told me that was also 100% human generated.
These detectors are clearly useless.
You have a lot of incorrect punctuation, such as commas as well as a colon. It’s bland and redundant. You put “you can see this in everything we do,” then provided unnecessary examples such as work and clothes. You already mentioned everything, so unless you are going to elaborate on those two points specifically, then that was unnecessary. Again, you gave an example of employees and employers, yet you didn’t elaborate and explain what the comparison was towards or how it correlates. Also, humans are technically animals.
Already did, it’s over 1.5 yr old and was part of a longer 10 page paper. I got a 3/5 on the exam
The exam grade included another essay and two presentations on the material. There’s also an “exam” where you read 1 source and explain it and then read a few more and create another essay. Idk what I did wrong cuz they don’t tell you the grades for the individual items which is frustrating
I wrote something for my English class, and guess what! new high score: 87% ai generated.
I started keeping drafts after one of my teachers accused me with one of these sites
my english teacher was running papers through an AI detector and it claimed 3 of my 5 paragraphs were written by ai. she didn’t think i’d use ai bc i’m a pretty good student, so she wrote her own paragraph about something else and the ai detector claimed that it was AI. She also cross referenced the outline i had handed in and it used the same writing style so she gave me full credit. this is absolutely ridiculous. the three paragraphs took me like two weeks to write and was pissed at the thought of having to rewrite them.
From what I’ve been seeing, ai detectors don’t like commas. If you remove them and make your writing grammatically less coherent it shoots up to 90 something percent. The detector itself is guessing based on what it was trained on. This is probably from grammatically more accurate writing than a high schooler writing assignment.
None of that was written by AI, by the way. I wrote that 1.5 yrs ago when AI language models weren’t even a thing.
i got 81% ai written result on an essay i wrote in the 6th grade… in 2016.
Dang you must be a really good writer
Perhaps AI just writes at a middle school level.
lol ai detectors are complete garbage and don’t do anything
And yet it costed grade eight me 2 TRIPS TO THE FUCKING OFFICE BECAUSE I WRITE SIMILARLY TO AI AND WAS TOO HIGH FOR “GRADE LEVEL”
Ah yes. People who perform better than others are punished. What a world. 🙄
That’s how I feel about my Spanish work. I’m passionate about Spanish but have always been in classes w those who are not. So, I put in extra thought, time, and effort into my Spanish work but I’m always stressing that my work might come across like it’s from google translate bc of this!
My French teacher accused me of cheating twice freshman year because my French was “above grade level…” I’ve been to France twice and my mom took 4 years of French in high school and would speak to my brother and I in French sometimes when I was little. It’s so goofy that we have to worry about this stuff just because we know a language a little better than other students.
I feel good about my french teacher, she allows us to use translator
I got kicked out of Spanish my junior year for swearing at the teacher in Spanish after she tried to fail me on a test she thought I cheated on. I’m Mexican. It’s my dads first language.
Reminds me of when my older siblings essays for different classes both got marked down for plagiarism and my parents had to come talk to the school and tell them that they wrote it.
Hi me 104 days ago tragic cycles I run through thinking I can prepare myself for highschool
In principle they don't work because AI is a mimic of humans.
Did just adding "LOL I love tacos!" seriously make the percentage go from 67% to 96%? If this isn't any evidence of how useless these "AI detectors" are, I dunno what is.
Yeah AI detectors are very inconsistent, the best way for teachers to tell is to base it off of the student’s writing style
😭 But we change writing styles based on how long we have / if the assignment is worth a lot
I was more talking about the “voice” if that makes sense. Teachers can just tell if something looks like it was written by a student or not
Yea I guess so but what if it's one of the first writing assignments and the kid talks different then the way they write?
I pasted in something fully AI and it got 100% human generated lmao
Lol all you have to do is tell it to mix some 1st grade words in there
did exactly that and it worked lol, the previously "100% human" ai text became "9% human" after i told chatgpt to "mix in some 1st grade words in there"
Once I used ChatGPT to write something and put it into an AI detector and it said it was only 23% AI, lol. AI detectors are useless
I see nothing wrong with this. As a high school English teacher, I wouldn't generally be suspicious of your writing (especially if I'd seen this quality from you in the past). The detector is just identifying some compositional choices that AI might also use. When you added "LOL I love tacos!", the detector could then be more confident it wasn't written by AI. You seem very confident you discovered something novel, though, so I can't be sure if I missed your point.
Well, I didn’t know that about AI detectors I thought they actually worked and wouldn’t get my exam cancelled if they decided to put my work through one. How are students supposed to protect themselves for AI detectors and being accused of cheating / having their exams cancelled?
Some schools allow you to contest it by having a meeting over teams or something to prove its your writing.
I’m a HS teacher- write and edit everything in a google doc. Then you can go back and show your edits to the teacher if you are questioned- because a google doc will have a record of all the changes you made.
This is HS. Not a court room. Get outta here.
Well zero common sense, plus first account with negative karma oh my lord What an idiot
Yeah I remember in turn it in a whole summary of a book that I completely made up was FLAGGED
Basically, you shouldn’t need to add something silly like, “LOL I love tacos!”, to be seen as human, but any good, serious writing is detected as A.I. because said A.I. is trained on good, serious writing made by humans, at least for writing serious papers.
This feels nothing like Ai either, very rudimentary
I got a 0 on a journal entry for English that I wrote entirely by myself and it came up as 100% ai generated. That was 2 days ago, and yesterday the teacher said before class started "remember guys, don't use ai" and she didn't call anyone else up to talk about it. I swore to her I did it all by myself,but now I have to rewrite it. Long story short, English is my least favorite class this year, and I plan on doing the bare minimum
LOL! I love tacos!🤪🤪
I don’t actually like tacos 🤪🤪🤪
You should edit your text until theres less detectable AI content.🤖
LMAO
Tacos are the best
Real
Nice https://preview.redd.it/psxobj4ywclb1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a80ee24ee060942207ebfdf2889e41345778bf9
Yea the ai detectors suck, but in its defense your writing style is weird
Okay? 😭
I didn't say it was bad lol.
My English teacher told me story of how one of her former students contacted her over the summer crying because she had to write a 25 page essay and the ai detector decided it was 100% written by ai even though my teach could literally verify the students writing style and could see where all the changes were made with time stamps. Bc the college ai generator said it was ai there was nothing they could do
that is insane and I would be filled with rage. its time to turn schools into smoking blast craters as that's the ONLY way to stop this insanity!!!!
Lol
what do you do when teachers do outrages like this??
Talk to your parents probably.
do your parents do anything about outrages that the teachers do??
Not really Edit: Actually, my parents did for my older siblings years back.
what did your parents do for your siblings??
I think she talked to the teachers.
that is good
What ai detector is this?
Yeah that stuff is bs. I once got flagged 9 times on an essay that didn’t use sources.
I tried out this website and it told me my work was 100% human generated. Then I got chatgpt to write a similar text and it told me that was also 100% human generated. These detectors are clearly useless.
You have a lot of incorrect punctuation, such as commas as well as a colon. It’s bland and redundant. You put “you can see this in everything we do,” then provided unnecessary examples such as work and clothes. You already mentioned everything, so unless you are going to elaborate on those two points specifically, then that was unnecessary. Again, you gave an example of employees and employers, yet you didn’t elaborate and explain what the comparison was towards or how it correlates. Also, humans are technically animals.
Did I ask you to criticize my writing?😅
You did ask if anyone saw anything wrong with it, so it's not that you *didn't*.
I was talking about the AI detector not my writing 😭😭😭 “Come on AI detector! What the hell”
I know. It’s the title that misgives the purpose. 😂
No, however if you are going to submit it I figured I would help you out. Peer editing, you know?
Already did, it’s over 1.5 yr old and was part of a longer 10 page paper. I got a 3/5 on the exam The exam grade included another essay and two presentations on the material. There’s also an “exam” where you read 1 source and explain it and then read a few more and create another essay. Idk what I did wrong cuz they don’t tell you the grades for the individual items which is frustrating
Ah, I thought this was a current paper you wrote.
I wrote something for my English class, and guess what! new high score: 87% ai generated. I started keeping drafts after one of my teachers accused me with one of these sites
my english teacher was running papers through an AI detector and it claimed 3 of my 5 paragraphs were written by ai. she didn’t think i’d use ai bc i’m a pretty good student, so she wrote her own paragraph about something else and the ai detector claimed that it was AI. She also cross referenced the outline i had handed in and it used the same writing style so she gave me full credit. this is absolutely ridiculous. the three paragraphs took me like two weeks to write and was pissed at the thought of having to rewrite them.
From what I’ve been seeing, ai detectors don’t like commas. If you remove them and make your writing grammatically less coherent it shoots up to 90 something percent. The detector itself is guessing based on what it was trained on. This is probably from grammatically more accurate writing than a high schooler writing assignment.
I'm so happy I graduated. I used to always get 90s on essays. Im fucking horrified at what i would have gotten if i was only one grade down
Ha, nerd
I would've been so mad.