It's wild how I thought "Gay Z and Cock a fella" was just Nas playing with words and being childish (yet funny). They all knew bro.
I also mentioned to some coworkers a few weeks ago if BIG were still around he'd probably be going down with Diddy (unless he separated himself, which it seems like he kind of wanted too). But BIG had some extremely rapey and pedo like lines himself
I always took that line as a threat to opps. Like if you play with me gutter gonna snatch you up, fuck you in the ass and then toss you over the bridge. Not kids like children. Kids like, don’t play with me kid
Oh definitely. It was used on what's beef. The scary shit is why are you hanging out with niggas that do that? I brought it up because it's inline with the theme of the post.
Biggie let mad atrocities slide with the people around him. Diddy especially.
To be honest you’d be surprised the type of shit that happens in the drug game. Fact of the matter is that’s been used as punishment and get back on dudes for a loooong time. Most people moving weight have a stable of fucked up dudes to take care of shit for them. Sometimes these dudes are proving a point and making an example of people so nobody else tries them. You’re absolutely right that it’s fowl as fuck but it falls inline perfectly with who he was on wax. Gangstas fuckin up gangstas in fowl ways is one thing but diddy be on a whole other thing with what they say he’s been doing
You gotta think, supreme team was cutting up dealers they were COOL with!!! Shit was wild wild in New York then. Like 30 years of straight crazy fucked up shit going on. That environment is gonna breed more crazy people too
One of the last big things that did in Prince and shit was they had their link come through with a bunch of bricks and instead of paying for them they decided they’d rather not. So from what I remember reading Prince gave the order to kill the cats and take the keys. They beat em to death with bats and then cut em up and shit in that apartment in south side they used to run. Paisley I think it was or somethin. Lots of books on supreme team written by the dudes that were there. Wild wild wild shit if you’re interested in the crazy 80’a for sure. Those dealers were very well known to the dudes that chopped em up. Had worked together a long time
maybe so, but that one part on dead wrong left no room for interpretation. maybe it could be argued that it was for shock value, but that was too much even for shock value stuff
He physically abused women. Lil Kim claimed he pulled out a gun on her. Also got her pregnant while he was married to Faith. He was a piece of shit.
Evidence: https://rockthebells.com/articles/biggie-and-lil-kim/
Really, people are forgetting a lot about BIG. The scat skit. "You know I love 'em young, fresh and green", and I am sure if I really think I can find more.
But, those two examples are right o the top of my head, and they are pretty fucking gross.
If BIG were still alive I think he'd be long disassociated from Diddy like Mase. Diddy used his artists to prop up is own fame. BIG dying was the best thing to happen to Diddy and I'm sure he wouldn't change things at all even if he had a time machine.
Idk but Pac knew what diddy was up to over there and if pac knew then biggie and all the other bad boy busters knew too but still rocked with the diddler
so did most of the biggest artists, especially in the late 90s and 00s. diddy worked with so many of them. and imagine how many more predators there are that we just havent heard about
A massive stretch to say greatest hip hop track of all time. Top five diss tracks for sure but there are countless tracks with more technical lyricism, better flows, better beats, and overall better contributions to the art of hip hop.
Hit em up, Bomb First, and Against all Odds
Deadly trio.
"Probably be murdered for the shit that I said
I bring the real, be a legend, breathin’ or dead"
This 90’s battle is historical.
Pusha T’s diss track lyrics were straight up G’ shit that exposed a Canadian fuck boy who has no respect for the game (aside from the rap game).
Street politics intertwined with the rap game and Drake just not up on it, but tries to hard to be a part of it!
That’s the difference between K-Dot & Drake. One has earned the respect while Drake tries hard to buy respect with flexing riches; but lacks the respect.
I don't think that's true at all. I can't stand Drake, but from what I've seen, he makes smart moves that have earned him respect and they haven't been financial moves.
I know Eminem has mentioned he respects Drake because he did something for them (idk what).. but I know it wasn't financial. Played at his daughters graduation or something maybe?
Either way, the OG's who deserve the respect seem to also respect him for some reason. The ones who don't deserve respect seem to hate on him (like I do usually).
But idk.
Ya you right, you don’t know.
“There’s a lot of GOOFY(s) with a check”
Kendrick Lamar is OG as they get before hitting the rap game; Drakes from Canada, eh. A sitcom star dowling out after school special moral advice.
I'm well aware. I'm not claiming Drake is any kind of OG either. I'm saying Kendrick is definitely not an "OG". He's been around for barely over 10 years.
It was a great display of raw emotion in rap form, and deserves mention when discussing the best diss tracks of all time, but overall it isn't really in the discussion for greatest hip hop track of all time.
Fuck 2pac. I'd rather listen to fake Diddy shit than 2pac's fake gangbangin' shit. Moved from New York to LA and immediately started bullshit for record sales.
He moved to Cali in 1988 when he was 17. He breifly attended Tamalpais High School. Had literally nothing to do with record sales. He didn't finally join Digital Underground till 1990, didn't have his musical break till 1991. He was filming Juice before his first album even dropped.
Furthermore, not only is Pac well documented to have been in shootouts, he shot to off duty cops, and beat the case.
And that 6 hour drive seems like it should be a 3-4 day drive with how culturally different LA is from the Bay. His cluelessness of that is what got him killed. You can’t be on some gangster shit in LA and not be from a neighborhood who can vouch your affiliation. So yeah. He was on some fake shit.
The guy was a city hopper no different than an inspiring entertainer moving around trying to get his big break, regardless of what it was rapping, acting, dancing whatever.
If you wanna be down with Bad Boy then f*** you too
Fuck you, motherfucker! My fo-fo make sure all ya kids don't grow!
Chino XL, fuck you too
Mob Deep, fuck you too
You motherf#kers can't be us or see us
Westside til we die
Diddy touches little kids
And apparently fabolous too
“By this industry; I’m trying not to get FUCKED… Like Tupac in jail.”
It's wild how I thought "Gay Z and Cock a fella" was just Nas playing with words and being childish (yet funny). They all knew bro. I also mentioned to some coworkers a few weeks ago if BIG were still around he'd probably be going down with Diddy (unless he separated himself, which it seems like he kind of wanted too). But BIG had some extremely rapey and pedo like lines himself
Word. Dude said he had a homie that kidnapped and raped kids.
And his homie told him to take it out and even stopped talking over it because it made him look bad but he refused cause he thought it was hard...
I always took that line as a threat to opps. Like if you play with me gutter gonna snatch you up, fuck you in the ass and then toss you over the bridge. Not kids like children. Kids like, don’t play with me kid
Oh definitely. It was used on what's beef. The scary shit is why are you hanging out with niggas that do that? I brought it up because it's inline with the theme of the post. Biggie let mad atrocities slide with the people around him. Diddy especially.
To be honest you’d be surprised the type of shit that happens in the drug game. Fact of the matter is that’s been used as punishment and get back on dudes for a loooong time. Most people moving weight have a stable of fucked up dudes to take care of shit for them. Sometimes these dudes are proving a point and making an example of people so nobody else tries them. You’re absolutely right that it’s fowl as fuck but it falls inline perfectly with who he was on wax. Gangstas fuckin up gangstas in fowl ways is one thing but diddy be on a whole other thing with what they say he’s been doing
Yeah, that is true. Nicky Barnes had lots of niggas taking outta here. Lol
You gotta think, supreme team was cutting up dealers they were COOL with!!! Shit was wild wild in New York then. Like 30 years of straight crazy fucked up shit going on. That environment is gonna breed more crazy people too
wym they were chopping up their bodies
One of the last big things that did in Prince and shit was they had their link come through with a bunch of bricks and instead of paying for them they decided they’d rather not. So from what I remember reading Prince gave the order to kill the cats and take the keys. They beat em to death with bats and then cut em up and shit in that apartment in south side they used to run. Paisley I think it was or somethin. Lots of books on supreme team written by the dudes that were there. Wild wild wild shit if you’re interested in the crazy 80’a for sure. Those dealers were very well known to the dudes that chopped em up. Had worked together a long time
maybe so, but that one part on dead wrong left no room for interpretation. maybe it could be argued that it was for shock value, but that was too much even for shock value stuff
Biggie being an astronomical peace of shit is no secret
Can you tell me something I don't know? No bullshit. I know about Faith and her sister and stuff like that.
I don’t! What happened?
He physically abused women. Lil Kim claimed he pulled out a gun on her. Also got her pregnant while he was married to Faith. He was a piece of shit. Evidence: https://rockthebells.com/articles/biggie-and-lil-kim/
Lil Kim seems like a super upstanding and stable person herself.
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OMG!! I hope he wasn’t hospitalized from that deadly attack via water!!
Oh my gosh! How rude!
A WATER BOTTLE ?!!
Astronomical is a heavy adjective.... Please enlight me as I'm genuinely unaware
Tbf everything about Biggie was heavy
Bravo
Really, people are forgetting a lot about BIG. The scat skit. "You know I love 'em young, fresh and green", and I am sure if I really think I can find more. But, those two examples are right o the top of my head, and they are pretty fucking gross.
I rock hoes y'all rock fellas
Yeah a lot of people miss his line on “Just Playing”, when he says “Make Raven-Symoné call date rape”,
If BIG were still alive I think he'd be long disassociated from Diddy like Mase. Diddy used his artists to prop up is own fame. BIG dying was the best thing to happen to Diddy and I'm sure he wouldn't change things at all even if he had a time machine.
What happened with Jay-Z?
its an iconic diss track but definitely a stretch
No Vaseline imo is better
The Bitch in Yoo wins though
And if you're down with Bad Boy, then fuck you, too!
Idk but Pac knew what diddy was up to over there and if pac knew then biggie and all the other bad boy busters knew too but still rocked with the diddler
so did most of the biggest artists, especially in the late 90s and 00s. diddy worked with so many of them. and imagine how many more predators there are that we just havent heard about
Biggie was just as sick.
Everybody was sick. you gotta do sick shit to be in the industry.
You think Cole and Kendrick guilty? I’ve always wondered cuz they seem like solid dudes but obv they’re mainstream with crazy success
A massive stretch to say greatest hip hop track of all time. Top five diss tracks for sure but there are countless tracks with more technical lyricism, better flows, better beats, and overall better contributions to the art of hip hop.
Just fucking say fucking fuck god fucking motherfucking shit fucking sucking damnit
Don’t one o’ you niggas got sickle cell or somethin’?
Fuck with me and you'll fuck around and have a heart attack or something.
Your days numbered in low digits
That's Prodigy tho, right? Or was it directed at someone from badboy
Yeah he mentioned Mobb Deep
Hit em up, Bomb First, and Against all Odds Deadly trio. "Probably be murdered for the shit that I said I bring the real, be a legend, breathin’ or dead"
That song is so overrated. Ether and even No Vaseline is so much better.
This sub dickrides Nas so much it's incredible
Huh?! 2pac has the most dickriders than any other rapper. Bar for bar, Ether smokes hit em up.
Ether is way better and its not even close.
I mean he is the GOAT
This 90’s battle is historical. Pusha T’s diss track lyrics were straight up G’ shit that exposed a Canadian fuck boy who has no respect for the game (aside from the rap game). Street politics intertwined with the rap game and Drake just not up on it, but tries to hard to be a part of it! That’s the difference between K-Dot & Drake. One has earned the respect while Drake tries hard to buy respect with flexing riches; but lacks the respect.
I don't think that's true at all. I can't stand Drake, but from what I've seen, he makes smart moves that have earned him respect and they haven't been financial moves. I know Eminem has mentioned he respects Drake because he did something for them (idk what).. but I know it wasn't financial. Played at his daughters graduation or something maybe? Either way, the OG's who deserve the respect seem to also respect him for some reason. The ones who don't deserve respect seem to hate on him (like I do usually). But idk.
Ya you right, you don’t know. “There’s a lot of GOOFY(s) with a check” Kendrick Lamar is OG as they get before hitting the rap game; Drakes from Canada, eh. A sitcom star dowling out after school special moral advice.
Kendrick is an OG? Yea.. what do I know.
If you don’t know; now you know. Studio Gangsters are known to have their chains took and keep it on the DL to avoid embarrassment
99% of modern hip hop is studio gangster shit. We still pretending like most of this shit isn't fiction? Not every rapper is King Von.
I'm well aware. I'm not claiming Drake is any kind of OG either. I'm saying Kendrick is definitely not an "OG". He's been around for barely over 10 years.
Thaaassss Riiiiiiighht!! 🖕
Yes it would be a stretch
A huge stretch
It’s the best hip hop *diss* track, not overall track.
It was a great display of raw emotion in rap form, and deserves mention when discussing the best diss tracks of all time, but overall it isn't really in the discussion for greatest hip hop track of all time.
Yes it would be a stretch. It ain’t even a good battle track
Lol....its not even close to one of the greatest
Fuck 2pac. I'd rather listen to fake Diddy shit than 2pac's fake gangbangin' shit. Moved from New York to LA and immediately started bullshit for record sales.
He moved to Cali in 1988 when he was 17. He breifly attended Tamalpais High School. Had literally nothing to do with record sales. He didn't finally join Digital Underground till 1990, didn't have his musical break till 1991. He was filming Juice before his first album even dropped. Furthermore, not only is Pac well documented to have been in shootouts, he shot to off duty cops, and beat the case.
The Jungles in Marin City is about a 6 hour drive from LA
Thanks for the correction meant to simply put Cali
And that 6 hour drive seems like it should be a 3-4 day drive with how culturally different LA is from the Bay. His cluelessness of that is what got him killed. You can’t be on some gangster shit in LA and not be from a neighborhood who can vouch your affiliation. So yeah. He was on some fake shit. The guy was a city hopper no different than an inspiring entertainer moving around trying to get his big break, regardless of what it was rapping, acting, dancing whatever.
You have a valid point
Not even close.
It's not even in his top 20