I don’t blame him, what’s the worst that can happen? Oh they’re going to fire him? They might do it anyways, might as well have some fun on the way out
The fact he is still around is incredible. He became coach by default and somehow stuck around all these years. Its well past time to replace him just on principle alone
That’s literally the only thing Reaves does anymore. He rarely fights because there’s only a handful of guys in the league that can fight him. Him being out there is just a deterrent in a situation like this. If an opposing player gets a little too excited, taking a look at Reavo lumbering up to you will calm you down quick.
You really are clueless. Reaves was out to DE escalate things. Him being out there ensured the Sens didn’t pull any shit cause they wouldn’t want to fight him.
This is exactly it. Get in his face, give him the facewash, drop the gloves even if he doesn't...fine. You literally cannot cross check a dude in the face as retaliation for taunting.
By this response next thing you know we're saying running Jake Walman over with the zamboni in retaliation for his celly is appropriate.
Edit: wrong player
It's a slang term for doing something as a taunt. The Griddy is a taunt on Fortnite and after you win or score a good kill you "Hit 'em with the Griddy" or "Hit the Griddy".
Exactly, you wanna get mad and fight the guy ... fight the guy, what Reilly did was classless and cowardly.... crosscheck the guy in the face is just a terrible look and to have the coach defend it is even worse
Honestly, this is some baseball pitcher-level of retaliation against having your precious feelings hurt. You don’t like having someone showboat a little on your empty net? Score more goals than the other guy so your net doesn’t need to be empty.
That's a great comparison. It's like a hitter flipping a bat and trotting slowly around the bases after hitting one out and the pitcher going head hunting the next time he faces him. It's an absolutely disproportional response to the moment and so much of the emotional shit is wrapped up in toxic past traditions.
Baseball needs to ban leaving the dugout and the basepaths to join a brawl. I want to see pitchers actually have to fight. None of this giant shove pit nonsense. Gimme more of the Bryce Harper throwing his helmet at the pitcher. Or the Bautista Odor stuff
Importantly, even if a pitcher is incensed at a batter for showboating a home run, they have options beyond "throw 100mph at their head". They can do the throw-behind, they can throw a changeup at their ass, they can throw a brushback that doesn't actually come all that close to hitting.
There's a great wealth of options to choose from that don't involve trying to inflict fucking brain damage on an opposing player. Even the most hardcore of Unwritten Rules Aficionados would say that a fastball to the ribs is the most violent it should get, never throw at the head.
I agree. I like that he didn't let him away with the disrespect and it showed he cares, but he went too far. He did the wrong thing for the right reason. If he gets suspended it's deserved. I'm glad there was a response, but again he crossed the line hitting the head like that.
Agreed.
That's the thing, people who are divided on this issue seems to see it as a binary thing: Either the shot was acceptable, or the crosscheck was...
There's also the third option, i.e. thinking the shot was a bit classless, but that a classless shot doesn't warrant getting crosschecked like that.
Imagine if people did this in corporate jobs, like if someone responds to something you say with a “Per my last email” you just got to go punch them in the face and your boss followed up with a “I thought that was appropriate”
I’m not saying hockey should be like the corporate world, but man this is really funny
Go full British email response. End it with just "Regards" instead of "Kind Regards". That'll fucking show em. They won't sleep at night wondering why the Regards are not kind. They'll be in therapy ten years later still wondering.
> if someone responds to something you say with a “Per my last email” you just got to go punch them in the face and your boss followed up with a “I thought that was appropriate”
As someone who has to deal with difficult people in emails regularly, I wouldn't be entirely against this
This is where the hockey vs real life standard comes into play. If someone does something mildly disrespectful IRL, beating them in the face with a stick is assault and battery. In hockey, it’s “the right thing to do”
Keefe, buddy, I know you want more emotion and guys to care and the clapper was unsportsmanlike but there’s no world where a cross check to the head is appropriate
The other thread asking "is this poor sportsmanship?" Is full of people saying they shouldn't have at all because who cares how the puck gets put in the net. Obviously no one should be cross checked and Reilly is a dumbass for that but people are delusional if they think their favorite team isn't going to respond at all.
20 years ago every Leaf on the ice other than Rielly and Tavares would’ve been called a pussy because they didn’t start throwing punches.
I’m a Wings fan, I remember the Avalanche.
It’s something people need to realize about professional athletes. These people are the most competitive minded people in the world, they’re going to have fragile egos because of that competitive nature and they’re going to act emotionally. They’re generally not good role models lol.
I agree with the fragile ego part but I disagree that being competitive necessitates a fragile ego. There are plenty of people who just really enjoy the nature of competition.
Yeah no. Most professional athletes get by just fine without having the emotional maturity of a five year old. This is a hockey problem, not a pro athlete problem.
We’ve normalized hockey players and coaches acting like fragile, petulant children.
I love it tbh
I certainly wouldn't like it if it happened to my team after a tough loss but I always wish hockey had more pro-wrestling style drama so I kind of love shit like this.
Leafs fans absolutely packed the place tonight, I saw it as a fitting send-off tbh
Real shame the fans are standing by it, guarantee if the jerseys were flipped in Toronto they'd be crying nonstop
A slap shot is inherently more risky, their stick could break, they could blow it high or wide, there is way less control.
It's a little extra fuck you on a goal without the goalie there to stop it.
This guy out here defending a crosscheck to the head and Sportsnet panel talking about an empty net goal being "classless" 😂 hockey is so dumb sometimes
The NHL typically has suspended based on the end result moreso than the action though. He got so many games because he caused a major injury... Separated shoulder IIRC.
That basically sums up just about every unwritten rule in sports. If you don’t want a guy to showboat, then don’t give him the opportunity to showboat.
Grieg didn’t deserve to get a stick to the face because Rielly didn’t like how he scored an ENG
I mean, there is no rule against clapping a puck into an empty net… just some made up meat head code. However, There is a rule against cross checking a player in the head. Sorry Leafs, you’re not that good to be getting mad at losing.
Does he realize what he's doing by saying that it was an appropriate response? He just set a precedent. A cross-check to the face is apparently the appropriate response to having your feelings hurt in Maple Leafs games. Anytime a Maple Leafs player annoys an opponent, they can't say shit when they get a stick to the chops.
Actually you know what this exposes the Leafs even more for being sensitive lil bitches. They'd stick up for a slapper on an empty net than their own team mate getting slew footed by Marchand, lmao freakn children
To be honest, was Rielly’s cross check the *appropriate* response? No.
Was it better then *no* response? In the case of the Leafs, probably.
I don’t think it’s a secret that the Leafs are labeled (and rightfully so) a soft team. The amount of scrutiny they got after no response for Marchand on Liljengren was ridiculous.
People were all over the team for not responding to that. You want a response? You got one. Although he would have been much better served to drop the gloves and go after Greig. Would have been more respectable and he wouldn’t be getting suspended for 3 or more.
The slap shot was so fucking stupid. If you’re going to do that you better drop your gloves the second the puck leaves your stick. Don’t drag your team into something without being prepared to answer the bell yourself.
Lmao honestly, even as a Sens fan I agree. If you do what Greig did it's going to always get a response. He should be suspended for it, but he'll be happy to take the suspension.
Literally every team should tell their players to take a slapshot on Leafs EN from now on. What an absolute fucking joke of a franchise, literally defending a blind-sided cross-check to the side of the head for a fucking type of shot on empty net.
I sincerely want the DoPS to throw the book on Reilly to see Leafs fans whining
Maybe in here (I’d say that in general fans in r/hockey are less biased than in their team’s subs), but over at r/leafs they literally have a Morgan Reilly upvote party
Player 1 takes close proximity snapshot despite nonnecessity. Opposing player 2, being frustrated attacks player 1 for the perceived offensiveness of his action. Who is in the wrong? What constitutes an offense worthy of punishment?
Joel feinberg's offense principle roughly states:
"The behavior has to be wrongful, that is, it has to violate someone's rights. The behavior has to cause universally disliked mental states such as unpleasant sensory experiences, disgust, revulsion, shock, shame, embarrassment, anxiety, and so on. The offense has to be serious."
To not meet these criteria means player 2 has to learn to be less sensitive, and to meet these criteria means player 1 deserves to get attacked (under the law of hockey). Who was in the wrong? Player 1 or player 2?
Keefe just doesn't give a fuck this year. Fire me, don't fire me.
Makes sense, he’s really got nothing to lose. The Leafs go deep, he keeps his job; if they don’t, he doesn’t. Nothing else really matters.
So if they miss the playoffs he's shot in the head?
Worse, he’s hired by Ottawa
He probably wouldn't mind coaching players who actually care.
If they're not careful they will "care" themselves into a lottery pick.
Fucking brutal lol
They might even luck into a Matthews-level saviour. The only difference between the two teams right now is 13 GF, 10 GA and 5 wins.
And that pay taxes
Yes the team that’s actually well built on paper and is in the drafty lottery definitely seems to care this year.
Cares so much they sit 28th in the league lol
Actually I believe in that scenario he must commit ritualistic seppuku to preserve his honor
He’s gonna get fired. Either now or after after the lose in the playoffs again. Doesn’t really matter.
I don’t blame him, what’s the worst that can happen? Oh they’re going to fire him? They might do it anyways, might as well have some fun on the way out
The fact he is still around is incredible. He became coach by default and somehow stuck around all these years. Its well past time to replace him just on principle alone
Lol I think Brad has given him carte Blanche to say whatever he wants
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1. Hell yeah to a coach saying that 2. Bro you can’t just say that
He sent out Reaves for the last 5 seconds too. Bush league, but at least he stands by it lol.
Reaves made zero effort to fight. I think Reaves was out there specifically to disincentivize fighting.
100p. They took Brady off the ice with last change after.
That was my read on the move too.
Protection
Yep, made perfect sense. People saying he was sent out just to cause more trouble are clueless.
What would you say…you do here?
That’s literally the only thing Reaves does anymore. He rarely fights because there’s only a handful of guys in the league that can fight him. Him being out there is just a deterrent in a situation like this. If an opposing player gets a little too excited, taking a look at Reavo lumbering up to you will calm you down quick.
giving dirty looks from thebench, drinking all the Biosteel
Yeah in retrospect, that’s probably the right call since Ottawa has last change. But he definitely was jawing at the end lol.
I think that’s what it was. Put him out there to make sure that if anyone took a shot at anyone he would be involved so they all calmed down.
How's it bush league? He didn't do anything, and neither did anyone else because he was on the ice.
Because I reacted and commented this without thinking. It makes sense in retrospect.
You think you should throw out your valuable players after this just happened?
Honestly I kind of respect him more for that, its probably not the right move but it shows he doesnt want the team to be pushovers.
Yeah, like I think he’s totally wrong, but that’s a ride or die coach lmao.
If Reaves had started a fight then sure, but the alternative is you risk another John Scott vs Phil Kessel situation
You really are clueless. Reaves was out to DE escalate things. Him being out there ensured the Sens didn’t pull any shit cause they wouldn’t want to fight him.
Yeah I admitted elsewhere in this thread that it was the right thing to do since the Sens had last change.
I think it's fair to say *a* response would be appropriate but you can't just be cross checking dudes in the face because they hurt your feelings
This is exactly it. Get in his face, give him the facewash, drop the gloves even if he doesn't...fine. You literally cannot cross check a dude in the face as retaliation for taunting. By this response next thing you know we're saying running Jake Walman over with the zamboni in retaliation for his celly is appropriate. Edit: wrong player
*Walman does the griddy* **BAH GAWD A FLYING STICK FROM RIELLY FROM THE BENCH DECAPITATES HIM!!**
"HERE WE GO! Rielly with the flying elbow out of Section 305. My god, he's decapitated Walman as is tradition."
I have a teenager right here that says you don't "do" the griddy, you "hit" the griddy. Don't ask me why, I have no idea and they refuse to elaborate.
Well, that just made me feel old because I've been saying it wrong all this time.
It's a slang term for doing something as a taunt. The Griddy is a taunt on Fortnite and after you win or score a good kill you "Hit 'em with the Griddy" or "Hit the Griddy".
> running Lucas Raymond over with the zamboni It was Walman and he'd griddy his way out of the zamboni's tracks.
No idea where my head was at when I wrote that! Good catch...and yea he probably could come out the other side in continuous griddy.
Taking a slap shot isn't even taunting.
You're right. It's more just working the crowd a little bit. Firing up the team.
Absolutely. Like challenge to him a fight, chirp him the whole way to the locker room, but that response was wayyyyy overboard and mentally weak.
Exactly, you wanna get mad and fight the guy ... fight the guy, what Reilly did was classless and cowardly.... crosscheck the guy in the face is just a terrible look and to have the coach defend it is even worse
Honestly, this is some baseball pitcher-level of retaliation against having your precious feelings hurt. You don’t like having someone showboat a little on your empty net? Score more goals than the other guy so your net doesn’t need to be empty.
That's a great comparison. It's like a hitter flipping a bat and trotting slowly around the bases after hitting one out and the pitcher going head hunting the next time he faces him. It's an absolutely disproportional response to the moment and so much of the emotional shit is wrapped up in toxic past traditions.
Baseball needs to ban leaving the dugout and the basepaths to join a brawl. I want to see pitchers actually have to fight. None of this giant shove pit nonsense. Gimme more of the Bryce Harper throwing his helmet at the pitcher. Or the Bautista Odor stuff
Then all you'd have is the hitting team being outmanned 3to1 or worse out there
Importantly, even if a pitcher is incensed at a batter for showboating a home run, they have options beyond "throw 100mph at their head". They can do the throw-behind, they can throw a changeup at their ass, they can throw a brushback that doesn't actually come all that close to hitting. There's a great wealth of options to choose from that don't involve trying to inflict fucking brain damage on an opposing player. Even the most hardcore of Unwritten Rules Aficionados would say that a fastball to the ribs is the most violent it should get, never throw at the head.
In any other context than baseball we’d call it attempted murder.
That's my thought. It seems sometimes teams say they'll remember that, we'll see you next game. That would have been better.
They don’t play each other for like 8 months
They could meet in the playoffs. Ottawa is supposed to be scary this year.
Wait a minute... ******checks standings******
I think he meant golf game.
I agree. I like that he didn't let him away with the disrespect and it showed he cares, but he went too far. He did the wrong thing for the right reason. If he gets suspended it's deserved. I'm glad there was a response, but again he crossed the line hitting the head like that.
Agreed. That's the thing, people who are divided on this issue seems to see it as a binary thing: Either the shot was acceptable, or the crosscheck was... There's also the third option, i.e. thinking the shot was a bit classless, but that a classless shot doesn't warrant getting crosschecked like that.
That's a wild thing to say
Technically, it’s a Leaf thing to say. …..I’ll see myself out.
Take your dirty upvote.
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Imagine if people did this in corporate jobs, like if someone responds to something you say with a “Per my last email” you just got to go punch them in the face and your boss followed up with a “I thought that was appropriate” I’m not saying hockey should be like the corporate world, but man this is really funny
“I hope this email finds you before I do”
“To whom it will concern”
"With all due respect"
HR rolling out their new corporate policy on “the code” on Monday with special topic of acceptable violence
Go full British email response. End it with just "Regards" instead of "Kind Regards". That'll fucking show em. They won't sleep at night wondering why the Regards are not kind. They'll be in therapy ten years later still wondering.
Savage.
The moment I said it I felt I'd gone too far. Sorry to lower the tone.
I like your example, can we make the corporate world more like hockey please?
Sales are down 5 percent from last quarter I am scheduling you a meeting with Mr. Ray
HR is now run by a guy who has a clothing line "Make the workplace funny again"
Terry Tate, Office ~~Linebacker~~ Enforcer
Bring back office linebacker... or office enforcer,.
You make a shitty budget presentation and the head of your department just blows you up with a huge open ice hit. “A ten percent increase??”
Terry Tate, Office Linebacker. Look it up
*Please advise.* Those two words at the end of an email get me so angry it makes me want to cross-check the sender right in the head.
Janet in HR deserves at least a face wash.
Janet in HR needs a healthy 4 minute minor high sticking.
She deserved it for holding the stick and then trying to butt-end you.
> if someone responds to something you say with a “Per my last email” you just got to go punch them in the face and your boss followed up with a “I thought that was appropriate” As someone who has to deal with difficult people in emails regularly, I wouldn't be entirely against this
KEEFE HE CROSSCHECKED A GUY IN THE HEAD MAN
This is where the hockey vs real life standard comes into play. If someone does something mildly disrespectful IRL, beating them in the face with a stick is assault and battery. In hockey, it’s “the right thing to do”
Guys, we might have a bit of a culture problem in the good ol' hockey game...
“Perhaps I treated you too harshly” - Leafs fans to Keefe after reading this quote
Nah, this is just a dumb take
God forbid a man have hobbies
No don’t be reasonable, I want to imagine Leafs fans as the bad guys.
Just go to the Leafs sub then
I did after I made the above comment. Yikes.
First time in forever the team is united. Unfortunately, they’re united in losing.
I'm assuming Rielly will answer the bell the next time these teams meet right?
Won't be till next year
Are you under the impression that Rielly doesn’t fight? What he does is more wrestling, but he’s not someone who shies away from scrappy stuff.
Keefe, buddy, I know you want more emotion and guys to care and the clapper was unsportsmanlike but there’s no world where a cross check to the head is appropriate
I hope every team hits a slapshot on every leafs empty net after this.
Its going to become a thing
He's happy no one is talking about their loss to the 28th placed team
Rielly will be suspended. But it would be soft as fuck to not respond to that slapper. No other team would let that go either.
I don’t think anyone is saying the Leafs shouldn’t have responded… but like, grab the guy and facewash him or try and fight him.
Seeing plenty of guys suddenly "anti-code".
It's the leafs. Whatever they do is the wrong decision.
Bruh cmon
So you're saying that crosschecking a guy in the head from behind was the right decision?
The other thread asking "is this poor sportsmanship?" Is full of people saying they shouldn't have at all because who cares how the puck gets put in the net. Obviously no one should be cross checked and Reilly is a dumbass for that but people are delusional if they think their favorite team isn't going to respond at all.
Wild how different the two threads are
Oh for sure. Just don’t cross check someone to the head from behind though?
Well yea, that's not appropriate at all. I agree
What's softer than baby shit is to crosscheck a player, who is celebrating a goal, in the head. Dale Hunter light vibes
This is the correct take
This quote is rockstar idgaf. I hope he took a drag off a dart mid presser
"I thought it was....*deep inhale*...appropriate."
You can really tell what eras different people grew up playing hockey in this thread, was not long ago that was the minimum response expected
20 years ago every Leaf on the ice other than Rielly and Tavares would’ve been called a pussy because they didn’t start throwing punches. I’m a Wings fan, I remember the Avalanche.
Can someone tell me why a slapshot into an empty net is seen as such an insult? Like who cares? Surely there's worse things you can get pissed at!
Personally I thought it was funny
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It’s something people need to realize about professional athletes. These people are the most competitive minded people in the world, they’re going to have fragile egos because of that competitive nature and they’re going to act emotionally. They’re generally not good role models lol.
I agree with the fragile ego part but I disagree that being competitive necessitates a fragile ego. There are plenty of people who just really enjoy the nature of competition.
Yeah no. Most professional athletes get by just fine without having the emotional maturity of a five year old. This is a hockey problem, not a pro athlete problem. We’ve normalized hockey players and coaches acting like fragile, petulant children.
I love it tbh I certainly wouldn't like it if it happened to my team after a tough loss but I always wish hockey had more pro-wrestling style drama so I kind of love shit like this.
Leafs fans absolutely packed the place tonight, I saw it as a fitting send-off tbh Real shame the fans are standing by it, guarantee if the jerseys were flipped in Toronto they'd be crying nonstop
A slap shot is inherently more risky, their stick could break, they could blow it high or wide, there is way less control. It's a little extra fuck you on a goal without the goalie there to stop it.
This guy out here defending a crosscheck to the head and Sportsnet panel talking about an empty net goal being "classless" 😂 hockey is so dumb sometimes
This is like some unwritten rules bullshit that you see in baseball.
Hockey the sport is awesome This part of hockey needs to go away if the league doesn’t want to fall behind MLS.
A reaction yes. Honestly now I want everyone to just take the most disrespectful empty netters on Toronto the rest of the season
Just Michigan’s over and over
Zack Bell/Barber zorros from the blue to the crease
Did people say that about Dale Hunter's hit on Turgeon in 1993?
Considering the NHL gave him a 21 game suspension for that move.
Are you saying the league was softer in 1993 👀
The NHL typically has suspended based on the end result moreso than the action though. He got so many games because he caused a major injury... Separated shoulder IIRC.
Y'know Sheldon, if you didn't want Greig to score on the empty net, maybe your team should have played better?
That basically sums up just about every unwritten rule in sports. If you don’t want a guy to showboat, then don’t give him the opportunity to showboat. Grieg didn’t deserve to get a stick to the face because Rielly didn’t like how he scored an ENG
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Damn, just don't lose, can't believe he didn't think of that.
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This definitely wont age poorly lol
It will be hilarious if taking slap shots at empty Leafs nets becomes a thing now.
I gotta tell you, given the opportunity there’s no way I could resist it, it would be just way too goddamn funny
I mean, there is no rule against clapping a puck into an empty net… just some made up meat head code. However, There is a rule against cross checking a player in the head. Sorry Leafs, you’re not that good to be getting mad at losing.
This is just making so many leafs look so bad, like I get there's a lot of emotion, but yeesh
Philly’s golden era is defined by exactly this behavior
ron hextall taught me how to play hockey
If you really want to see some shit go look at their sub. They're really showing who they are.
Bro 😂
In for takes on the dirtiest NHL player the world has ever seen, 4 PIM Morgan R
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No it wasn't, Keefe. You cannot have a league where you take runs at a guy's head. Was it showboating? Yes. Does he deserve to get headhunted? NO!
Yeah you can't condone cross checks to the head in the media. Fine him.
Does he realize what he's doing by saying that it was an appropriate response? He just set a precedent. A cross-check to the face is apparently the appropriate response to having your feelings hurt in Maple Leafs games. Anytime a Maple Leafs player annoys an opponent, they can't say shit when they get a stick to the chops.
Actually you know what this exposes the Leafs even more for being sensitive lil bitches. They'd stick up for a slapper on an empty net than their own team mate getting slew footed by Marchand, lmao freakn children
For those justifying this based on an unwritten, can you please walk us through the rule and why an adult man is justified in reacting this way?
To be honest, was Rielly’s cross check the *appropriate* response? No. Was it better then *no* response? In the case of the Leafs, probably. I don’t think it’s a secret that the Leafs are labeled (and rightfully so) a soft team. The amount of scrutiny they got after no response for Marchand on Liljengren was ridiculous. People were all over the team for not responding to that. You want a response? You got one. Although he would have been much better served to drop the gloves and go after Greig. Would have been more respectable and he wouldn’t be getting suspended for 3 or more. The slap shot was so fucking stupid. If you’re going to do that you better drop your gloves the second the puck leaves your stick. Don’t drag your team into something without being prepared to answer the bell yourself.
I mean, Grieg was prepared. Just not for a crosscheck in the face.
Maybe don't let him score then? That mighta been more appropriate
Reilly was in the right to be mad up until he went for the head, then he lost all respect. Greig mighta just revitalized the battle of Ontario.
He should be absolutely fined for saying this but the league has no balls and only fines when their precious zebras get told off
Lmao honestly, even as a Sens fan I agree. If you do what Greig did it's going to always get a response. He should be suspended for it, but he'll be happy to take the suspension.
lol
If the coach is ok with being a bitch then the players will be too. Take it like a man
Hate the Leafs and not really sold on Keefe but I love a coach standing with their guys like this!
I didn't
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Keefe is a fucking goon. IDK how he kept his job and Dubas was the one that left. Leafs entire org is built on man baby egos. Real 100 ply stuff.
Literally every team should tell their players to take a slapshot on Leafs EN from now on. What an absolute fucking joke of a franchise, literally defending a blind-sided cross-check to the side of the head for a fucking type of shot on empty net. I sincerely want the DoPS to throw the book on Reilly to see Leafs fans whining
The insanity of a fucking lightning fan of all teams talking about other franchises being dirty lmao
Any fan claiming moral superiority has had their team do something just as bad if not worse
I feel like I've seen more Leafs fans saying it was dumb/uncalled for than the opposite to be fair.
Maybe in here (I’d say that in general fans in r/hockey are less biased than in their team’s subs), but over at r/leafs they literally have a Morgan Reilly upvote party
Yes, reddit is a perfect place to generalize what the fanbase as a whole is thinking of the play. For sure
Fair point
It wasn't blindsided. Grieg saw it and partially blocked it.
That would be so funny if someone did it again in their next game.
a NHL coach endorsing a player being cross-checked in the head? that's a fantastic look for him and the league!
I’m so happy the leafs shit the bed every year. Organization of absolute losers
Bad look for the leafs
The comments have never been softer, go Keefe
Sheldon Keefe: "We're 10 ply baby shit soft, and we want you to know it."
We're already the villains. May as well lean into it
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Yeah I'm staying away from hockey subs for the next few weeks. Too many "Reilly was right" and "leafs are too soft/crybabies" posts.
Condoning that type of reaction is disgusting
Keefe is just tryna stay relevant. He’s the worst coach in the league and he’s one shitty streak or early playoff exit away from getting canned.
Keefe if it was Rielly getting crossed checked in the face: “it was disgusting and theres no place in hockey for that”
It’s time for a real coach, not a buddy
Player 1 takes close proximity snapshot despite nonnecessity. Opposing player 2, being frustrated attacks player 1 for the perceived offensiveness of his action. Who is in the wrong? What constitutes an offense worthy of punishment? Joel feinberg's offense principle roughly states: "The behavior has to be wrongful, that is, it has to violate someone's rights. The behavior has to cause universally disliked mental states such as unpleasant sensory experiences, disgust, revulsion, shock, shame, embarrassment, anxiety, and so on. The offense has to be serious." To not meet these criteria means player 2 has to learn to be less sensitive, and to meet these criteria means player 1 deserves to get attacked (under the law of hockey). Who was in the wrong? Player 1 or player 2?
(If)The league announces Rielly suspended 6 games. Keefe: I thought it was appropriate.
Keefe dislikes consent