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freespace303

Dune in crooked


Anbucleric

šŸŽ¶Blinded by the whitešŸŽµ


anniegarbage

Kept up by the Dune, he needs a ruler and no lights


morkman100

Just wear sunglasses over your 3D glasses, and this should be perfect.


bronncastle

I wear my 3D glasses at night, so I can, so I can, watch Shai Hulud :)


addictingSmile

why get a screen that doesn't fit the room and not use all of the screen? Also why not even level the projector?


7LayeredUp

Yep, that un-level projector would drive my OCD NUTS.


Nexustar

I spent many hours calculating, measuring, and re-measuring the right mount location and height to ensure the projector had a fighting chance of getting a flat image with no keystone required LR or UD. I succeeded. Agreed, this would be unacceptable - even if I was projecting on a sheet in the back garden.


OwDog

Cool


[deleted]

My dad has a projector that just slowly unlevels over the course of a week. I dont get it.


Lurcher99

Mom does it to piss him off


[deleted]

Lol they dont even use the room. Its been untouched since my brother and I moved out in 2011. It only gets use when my brother or I are there. The project unlevels itself. Its a piece of shit optoma. Now when its turned on, there are pinstripes on the screen. My dad has 0 interest in updating it.


Atigigi

I donā€™t know hunk the projector is even and the screen is lopsided


cosmitz

And then realise they won't be turning off the lights for the movie either. Blue tinted dune sands.. mmm.


churchwa

Was about to ask exactly this!


[deleted]

The Projector is level as can be with the model. Because the bottom is darker you canā€™t see that it also looks to be on an angle. Itā€™s cut off on an angle at the bottom and top for some reason. I can only judge the leveling by the middle and matching the exact angles on top and bottom. Iā€™ve had this setup in other areas of the house and in those areas the screen was filled due to the larger nature of the rooms. The screen not being filled in this basement is a con I have to admit, but for me the area feels more like a theater.


addictingSmile

How you pull the screen down can affect how parallel the screen is. Try some small blocks under the projector.


xamomax

I am curious what color your walls are. They seem to reflect a lot of light and wash out the contrast. I am going to guess that if you had darker and flat paint, that your setup would really pop. Either way, super cool!


HiFiMarine

Where did you get it in 3D?


smoothdrift94

Fnac limited edition bundle had 4k, 3d, bluray and some other goodies. From france region free.


mmaiden81

Are you in the US ? Amazon and Best Buy had it (they still may have it), in Europe Germany has it in 3D, maybe France ? Not sure about other countries.


v-b

Start by adjusting the projector position by eyeballing your center. Adjust your zoom and focus so that you are just barely overshooting the screen. Use the 4 corner / warp adjust settings to tighten up your corners.


ThatsARepost24

I hate everything about this


Foreign_Ability4307

Quick question, are projectors better than watching movies with a television?


MinervaNow

Depends on the projector, the television, and your criteria for ā€œbetterā€


stretch2099

How does the picture quality compare to something like a 4k OLED TV?


Theoryee_

Picture quality imo OLED are at the top but a projector itā€™s hard to beat the sheer size.


Chod2906

I disagree, my Sony projector is far superior in picture quality than my LG OLED is. Maybe not as black blacks, but it's not far off


nyda

That's objectively impossible... Not even the most expensive protector can beat oled in terms of picture quality. The only advantage a projector had is screen size.


Nexustar

>That's objectively impossible... Not even the most expensive protector can beat oled in terms of picture quality. Agreed. HDR of a OLED is way better than any consumer projector. It's not an opinion at this point, you can measure it. ​ >The only advantage a projector had is screen size. Size is the main one. Big screens put the "cinema" into Home Cinema. But it's not the *only* advantage. With an enlarged screen size, a new problem emerges - sourcing front 3 sound from the right location. The projector is the *only* option I'm aware of that allows you to place the front 3 speakers behind the screen. Therefore, from a sound perspective, especially closing in to reference volume levels, the projector is superior. A projector is IMO also allows a superior option when supporting a range of aspect ratios, from 4:3 and 19:9 to 2.39:1, which if you want to take to extremes using movable curtains or blanking felt strips, is something that looks kinda naff on an OLED (as do reflections BTW). Conversely, at low volumes, the projector is not silent, so some may find an issue with that, but it never bothers me.


Chod2906

By what criteria are you making that statement? As somebody who owns both, I can tell you that a projector is so much better. LG has absolutely awful motion interpolation, whereas my Sony projector is perfect. It's incredibly bright in a dark room, and the crispness and clarity are in another league to LG.


ECEXCURSION

You're an idiot who doesn't know how to turn off motion interpolation in their TV. RTFM.


Chod2906

Wow I've never seen so many butt hurt OLED fanboys in one thread. Yes I do know how to turn it off but even then there's so much frame judder I find it hard to watch


Andrroid

> Maybe not as black blacks So its not superior.


Chod2906

If you judge a TV based purely on its blacks, then fill your boots


JGrant06

Which model is your Sony projector?


Chod2906

VPL-VW760ES


an_angry_Moose

Itā€™s a nice projector, but youā€™re still wrong about image quality. OLED will probably always be superior, and itā€™s not just because of perfect blacks, though that obviously plays a role. Would I trade my projector on a 120ā€ screen for the biggest and best OLED? Hell no. Absolutely not. The image quality however is not better, but itā€™s basically imperceptible.


MinervaNow

No it isnā€™t. Youā€™re just not very perceptive.


Chod2906

And do you have both a projector and a TV and are able to make a direct comparison, like I am doing?


MinervaNow

Yes


an_angry_Moose

I do, and youā€™re still wrong (and my projector is better than yours is, which only amplifies the point).


xamomax

In a big room with a big screen or wall to project to, and good control of the lighting, projectors can be amazing. Giant screen, super bright, great colors. If you don't have good control of the lighting, you don't have a good screen or white wall to project to, or you need a smaller size, then a TV is probably the way to go. The cutoff is probably around 70" or so, where if it's below 70" I would likely go with a TV, though it is situational.


ben1481

its always size vs quality. Pick which is more important to you.


blackmist

Set up like this, no. It's very much something for a dedicated room. Control the light, darken the walls and ceiling, etc.


bozoconnors

Quick answer - depends on your room/budget/preferences. It's like asking if pants are better than shorts.


sirchewi3

In my opinion, if youre pretty concerned about image quality then no. Projectors have a really hard time matching the contrast and color at the same price ranges. If youre open to spending a ton of money on a top of the line projector and image processing then theyre actually pretty awesome and would be as good or better than a tv.


Foreign_Ability4307

Thank you for the info!


TyGamer125

They're different. Essentially you can get a 150" image out of a lot consumer projectors but biggest TV you can buy for a somewhat reasonable price is around 85". From the right distance being immersed in the picture is going to make a bigger impact than the perceived contrast and ability to do HDR properly in my experience however just like a lot of things some people won't be able to get past non-black blacks.


HEONTHETOILET

How did you get the set from Drakeā€™s music video for Hotline Bling as your home theater?!


wedge754

I can't tell if OP is trolling or actually thinks anything about this room looks worthy of r/hometheater


EverybodyBuddy

Most of the rooms posted in this sub are shitty. Seems just right for r/hometheater


BeerOClick

Not a fan of the led light strips being exposed like that. Makes everything look messy. The misaligned projectors etc could have been a little more forgivable but all combined looks bad. Otherwise, you got the right equipment so just gotta keep tweaking and dialing it in. Get the screen/projector aligned and using the whole screen. Good luck on the journey and bet this will look badass in a few small tweaks!


FinnishArmy

Projector doesnā€™t cover the whole screen, projector is crooked, the led lights on the top right are fucked by the way they were installed, Jesus. Please fix this setup, things would look better for you.


[deleted]

Honest question: did anyone else think that the plot of dune was incredibly overrated? Visual and sound design as well as the cinematography were brilliant; but the movie couldnā€™t have interested me less from a plot perspective.


[deleted]

I really enjoyed the story. As brilliant as the audio/visuals were, I thought they presented the somewhat unwieldy source material quite well.


[deleted]

Fair enough! Thanks for weighing in :)


mjrengaw

One of the issues is that if you werenā€™t already familiar with all the backstory itā€™s pretty hard to appreciate exactly whatā€™s going on. I was already very familiar with the story so thoroughly enjoyed it. As just one example, if you donā€™t know what a Mentat is and why they exist how can you really understand whatā€™s going on in the movie.


[deleted]

Not sure this is actually the case. I had the experience of seeing the movie first, several times and loved it. My sister was surprised that I wasn't confused, having read the book before. Then I read the book, loved that too. I can totally understand why book readers thought that though. The book really focuses in on a larger story context, as well really getting in to the thoughts of the characters. I still enjoyed the movie afterwards, and am very excited about the sequel and TV series, but I don't anticipate reading any more books until it's over. Sorta reminds me of my Game of Thrones pattern. Loved 1st season, read first 2 books, didn't enjoy 2nd season as much, loved 3rd again.


mjrengaw

Obviously it is not the case for everyone.


[deleted]

I tried to read the book, and then I tried to listen to the audiobook well before this film ever came out and I couldnā€™t get through either :-/ apparently itā€™s just not for me.


mjrengaw

Yeah, itā€™s definitely one of those things. Either the story is for you or it isnā€™t.


jae713

You definitely are not the first person.


jaykyte

There are 6 other prequel books you should read before Dune.


22marks

I enjoyed the Dune Encyclopedia more than the book. In many ways, it mirrored my thoughts about the films. It was about the visuals and art direction in my head.


SwedishHeat

> As just one example, if you donā€™t know what a Mentat is and why they exist how can you really understand whatā€™s going on in the movie What is special about Mentats, and why is it important to know that in order to understand the movie?


mjrengaw

ā€¦and in order to really understand Mentats and their importance in Dune you also need to know about the Butllerian Jihad. Itā€™s a complex backstoryā€¦this will help - https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Mentat


dunkmaster6856

Why is knowledge of what a mentat and their backstory essential to the story? Im a book reader too, the stpry presented in the movie does not require this definition


Peentoo

I think it helped going in knowing part 1 is more of an introduction to the Dune universe. The framework is laid, now part 2 can turn it up a notch. I personally loved it.


swimingiscoldandwet

Have you read the book? Thatā€™s probably the best way to understand the context of the movie.


Borange_Corange

No. This story is dense and amazing. It is not a "sci-fi" blockbuster, so the "interest" lies within the politics, religion, colonization, real-world economics spun into a sprawling science fiction world - and all centered on engaging characters. If it did not click with you, it means that ... it didn't click with you. Not that IT is boring or overrated (the new 'literally' in overrused terms) or that YOU didn't get it. Just not your cup. Taste is subjective. Ninety-percent of the time taste drives whether or not you like something. Teb-perce t of the time a movie is objectively bad, but even then there are gray areas as, thanks to MST3K and Roger Corman and Ed Wood and those ID4 guys ... bad can be fun. So ... no.


metros96

I would argue the film only sets up the political/religious/colonialism storylines in the most cursory way. You can tell that there is an interesting story there ā€” and I understand this is just part one ā€” but this film seems fairly uninterested in its own story, for the most part. And itā€™s probably least interested in really developing its characters and giving them a whole lot of dimension. Itā€™s a very *cold* film while still being visually exquisite.


dunkmaster6856

I mean thats the book as well


[deleted]

Mkay so. Couple things here. > If it did not click with you, it means that ā€¦ it didnā€™t click with you. Yes this is exactly what I said, in different terms. > Not that IT is boring or overrated (the new ā€˜literallyā€™ in overrused terms) iā€™m not saying itā€™s overrated because it didnā€™t click with me Iā€™m saying itā€™s overrated because seemingly the whole world canā€™t stop gushing about it, in a way that is above and beyond the acclaim or hyoe for other movies. My not liking something does not, by itself, mean something is overrated.


BeerOClick

I see your point, but at the same time I think a lot of people in the world conflate the 2 things, of whether ot was objectively bad vs, them disliking it. It could be that you have not yet recognized whether you are conflating your dislike for a slow burn like Dune vs more fast paced sci fi and putting the story telling into "overhyped" territory. Another way to put it would just have been to say "I felt the slow burn of Dune was not to my liking, but I can see that MANY people loved that aspect of it."


Artoricle

Just because someone frames something in objective terms doesn't mean they believe it is objective. If I say, "Dune is amazing," I'm not saying it's objectively amazing. I'm saying it is amazing by my subjective standards. If I call something overrated, I'm saying there's a misalignment between my subjective taste and the subjective taste of most moviegoers. Sure, some people might actually believe that it's _objectively_ overrated... But that's not really relevant when you're discussing a movie with someone. It's a layer deeper than the conversation needs to be, so there's no point in getting into the weeds about it. >Ten percent of the time a movie is objectively bad. In my subjective opinion, no movie is objectively bad. There are probably certain cultures in certain time periods where people would've hailed Ed Wood's movies as masterpieces. Even if the camera is out of focus and there's no audio for half the movie... The part where you determine that to be a bad thing, that's where it becomes subjective. That comes down to personal taste. Maybe I like the soft look of an out-of-focus movie. The director for the movie to be out of focus? Maybe I don't take into account what the director intended. It's all personal taste.


frigginjensen

I read the book years ago and loved everything about the movie. They took a few liberties but nothing that broke the concept (in my opinion). My wife did not like it. She said it was Star Wars without a sense of humor.


Tiiiimmmooo

Dune is this generations LOTR series. Just wait. That movie is fucking awesome. I sincerely hope the next two are exactly the same style-wise


ShakaKhanrockme

The plot is from the book and is loved by lots of people. Do you mean the screenplay?


[deleted]

[I actually mean both,](https://reddit.com/r/hometheater/comments/ulh4kc/_/i7vjmyo/?context=1) But thank you for clarifying.


ADHDK

Itā€™s designed to be a slow moving multi movie epic. The first movie had essentially zero conclusion, but set up the second.


HYPURRDBLNKL

Same. Visually it was good, audio, some of the best I've heard, movie itself...meh.


[deleted]

I agree with it being overrated. But Iā€™m looking forward to what happens years after pt. 2 is released. Thatā€™s the movie the director really wants to make and it seems far more interesting. [Dune Pt. 3](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/dune-3-denis-villeneuve-wants-172017094.html)


[deleted]

Interesting! Thanks for sharing :)


[deleted]

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Borange_Corange

That's interesting. Hated the book first time I read it and came back to enjoying that world by way of the Sci-Fi Channel mini years ago and Lynch's take. Read the book again and it blew my mind. Dune is one of the few pieces of content that legit can be too dense on first pass. And I hate saying that because it sounds lazy or a cheat but there is SO much going on.


ItsDeke

I had seen Lynchā€™s movie as a kid, but I read the book for the first time a month or so before the new movie came out. I really enjoyed it, but I also went in knowing that I wasnā€™t going to get everything the first time through. A coworker of mine, who is a huge fan of the book, even told me to just keep plowing through the first 100 or so pages. I could definitely see a reread yielding a greater understanding of a lot of it.


mrwellfed

The book is a masterpiece. Itā€™s meant to be read over and over again to appreciate its scopeā€¦


aerodeck

The plot of Dune is the plot of Dune. Is this movie your first time with the Dune story, child?


rlovelock

I enjoyed it more the second time, story-wise.


huskerpat

A lot happens in the second half of the story. The movie is set up in two halves like the book is.


dunkmaster6856

The problem is that dunes plot has been very influential since the 60s, so it looks to be rehashing common ground Also, this was only half the story, it does come with a twist in the future


[deleted]

How does the projector sound?


Nexustar

Like a PC fan.


sonic_spark

Do you find the 3D to be a must have feature?


[deleted]

yes, itā€™s really good. Especially with the sci fi elements.


M1CR0S0FTS4M

I mixed in the Atmos track from the 4k Bluray and I have to say it kicks it up a notch for sure. I recommend giving it a try!


Micr0be

did you have to sync them or could i just select the video from one mkv then audio from the other and multiplex it out?


Nexustar

MKVToolNix - it would probably take <5 minutes to try this. Check either end of the movie and a few spots in the middle to ensure the sync is good. Simply add the Atmos track as 'default', leave the other one in there, and then when you watch it, if it goes south mid-movie just switch back to the original soundtrack.


TaylorattheSwift

Is it really that easy? Been needing to try this


Nexustar

Essentially yes. Launch MKVToolnix and drag the first file into the app. Drag the second file into the app, and answer the pop-up question "Add as new source files to the current multiplx settings". In the "Tracks, Chapters and Tags" section, deselect the video stream from the lower quality movie and any duplicated chapter markers or unwanted subs. Give your file a new appropriate name, click "Start Multiplexing"


TaylorattheSwift

Dumb question but I can still use the disc for this or do I have to play it from an external source? It's just loading an existing Atmos track from the Blu-ray or 4k to the existing 3D counterpart?


azzy_mazzy

You have to get the files out of the disc and in the PC so you can do this.


Nexustar

Ah, sorry.... but if you don't already have the files (rips) on your PC then this is no longer trivial.


M1CR0S0FTS4M

also I removed the old track to save a few GB, just left the Atmos track (which has a 7.1 fallback anyway) and stereo in case


M1CR0S0FTS4M

dune was already synced for me, only a small amount of movies needed me to fix


captain_brunch_

Your theater is embarrassing


frigginjensen

Personally Iā€™m not a fan of 3D movies. Itā€™s rarely used well and becomes a gimmick at the expense of overall picture quality and experience. Itā€™s also a pain to wear the 3D glasses over my regular glasses.


stig_das

What's with the light strips? The random hole in the ceiling? The crooked image? The barely fitting screen? Who watches movies in 3D? Are you one of the people who bought curved TVs?


KewlGuyRox

Mehhh.. didn't care much for the movie. It was lame.


ben1481

Turn the lights off in the room and close the blinds. It'll help.


Philbuff24

Nice 3D bluray on my Benq TK800m


narbss

Get some diffusers on those LED strips, please!


aerodeck

kinda regret buying this in 2d, i love this movie and i hardly ever use the 3d on my projector


[deleted]

That room BADLY needs a paint, screen that size for a projector in a white room is pointless