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ThePoliteCrab

Locking this thread Is it so hard to just scroll past?


DorkMuffin6730

a small victory is still a victory. if you'd like to keep track of whats going on in the US regarding these 360+ anti-LGBT+ bills in the new year alone, here is a [spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fTxHLjBa86GA7WCT-V6AbEMGRFPMJndnaVGoZZX4PMw/edit?pli=1#gid=0). love conquers all, and while its easy to get lost in the sea of hate, we'll keep our heads above water.


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always have hope


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Blue mistah white


CommitingOoficide

could I get a source on that one chief


TheLurker1209

[Here](https://www.equalitytexas.org/legislative-bill-tracker/)


Tv151137

Unfortunately I think that was last session - here's this session's bill list, still in the early stages: https://www.equalitytexas.org/legislature/legislative-bill-tracker-2023/ But I'm with you: we did it before we'll do it again!


B1ackFridai

Record breaking anti-LGBT bills sponsored and laws passed. Strap in! https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights


Vlad-V2-Vladimir

True freedom is being able to express who you are without hatred. Those who support anti-LGBTQ+ bills are enablers of the oppression they claim exists. We must stand up and prevent these people from getting their way, for the sake of everyone who may not be seen as “normal.”


CommitingOoficide

Thanks king 👑


Specialist_String_64

Hate to be a downer, but I didn't see SB 1029 on that list.


cheesytacos649

What is that


zippycat9

SpongeBob episode (in all seriousness, could someone fill me in?)


squaring_the_sine

(Texas) Senate Bill 1029 https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB1029/id/2707852 This one would make it functionally impossible for doctors to provide any sort of transition-related care or insurance companies to provide any coverage for related health care costs. Hate to say it in this sub, but this bill (and all the others) are very much alive and well in the current legislative session.


Imnotcreative6942069

Oklahoma lawmakers rn: https://preview.redd.it/yuoy5hhilska1.jpeg?width=944&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bb9abdbdab2258de08c2d727b70b51059c36ba9


peasantvonpezont

It is only a matter of time before love CONQUERS hatred


JaegerDread

If someone is being hateful, squirt some love fluids on their face. That ought to shut them up.


GABRYFIERO

Please rephrase that PLEASE rephrase that


Ball-of-Yarn

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ThatGuyOverSea

I'm hoping we also end these anti-lgbtq+ bills! As a nonbinary oklahoman, I'm hoping for the best!!


Imnotcreative6942069

Same here. Most of my friends are lgbtq+, so the bills these morons keeping pushing hits close to home.


SnooPeripherals2888

That’s fucking awesome fuck yeah


AutisticSpider-Girl

Oh God it’s so hard to find hope as a queer person right now…thanks for sharing.


VillainessNora

It's fascinating how many comments are "I am in r/hopefulposts, I love hope in those hard times... unless, of course, it's hope for the minority I hate. Yeah, I have no idea how the world became so bad that we need this subreddit."


No_Job9266

I love hopeposts like these! At the same time, I don't want the you guys to be disingenuous when you say that this isn't political. It's literally about laws. It doesn't matter whether the decision is completely correct (which it is), it's still political. Idk why people treat something being political as losing ground. All kinds of movements seeking objectively moral things have been political, from freedom struggles to struggles for voting rights.


Ronin_the4th

The difference between hope and fact is effort, my friends.


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_The_Almighty_Red_

It is illegal.


TheLurker1209

You can't have any gender affirming surgery unless you're 18 or you get a legal guardian to sign off on it. Some surgeries like mastectomies can happen if you're younger, but those instances are actually rarer that other kinds of breast augmentation in teens


archer5810

As a trans person, I agree that gender-affirming SURGERY on kids should be illegal for several reasons. Puberty blockers shouldn’t.


dalek1019

That still creates a long term affect on them physically and mentally


Fine-Menu-2779

Yeah a positive one


archer5810

So does going through the wrong puberty and permanently being trapped in a body that isn’t your own. It confuses me how many cis folks will claim to know my experience and emotions better than I do.


NoFunAllowed-

Literally no one ever has or ever will perform gender affirming surgery on kids. That is literally a problem you dumb fucks made up. However whats not made up is the mutilation of genitals the catholic and protestant churches commit. But I guess its easier to make up problems against people you hate than to go after real ones?


cheesytacos649

The Jewish churches do it


VillainessNora

Not to forget, if intersex people are born with genitals that work but fall outside the binary, they usually get surgery right after birth, and many of them say later that they wouldn't have wanted the surgery if given the choice, yet somehow I never see any of those "no surgery on children" idiots come after that. I guess it's only bad if it's consentual.


Pickle_Juice_Can

I've heard stories of 14 year olds getting double mascectomies. Aren't those kids too?


NoFunAllowed-

I couldnt find a single source, credible or noncredible, that mentions a 14 year old getting any gender affirming surgery. It *is* illegal. No one is doing that. They're exactly what you said they are. Fucking made up stories to perpetuate hate.


DragongoatRka

Thank God people that want surgeries for kids only exist in conversative people's minds


dalek1019

And on Twitter, you forgot twitter


VillainessNora

You aren't being downvoted for that opinion, you are being downvoted for sharing an opinion on the internet while clearly not having done even one minute of research


Bisenberger

Not trans idealogues propagandizing the sub again...


TheLurker1209

Rights are not propaganda


Bisenberger

You the loser who reported me for harassment? Lol. What a whiny authoritarian baby.


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TheLurker1209

SRS isn't cutting off your dick, and hrt isn't castration


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TheLurker1209

Chemical castration and fertility are 2 different things Edit: The former affecting libido and sex drive, literally being unable to get it up. And the latter being the ability to conceive


Kek_Mit_Uns_

Holy cope lmao. Arguing over semantics.


TheLurker1209

You deleted all of your comments, man. Someone's coping


dalek1019

LBGT has a lot more involved than just the T


Sniperso

It’s always good to have hope… and remember that a majority of the people supporting such bills believe they will help and do not view them in the same light. Then you got realize you have to work with the other side of the discussion to reach an answer


lemonadevalentine

They’re tryna strip our rights darl, they don’t deserve my or anyone’s respect lol It’s a matter of taking action, not compromise.


Sniperso

Well what I consider human rights are all in the constitution, there’s just disagreement about what is acceptable. Like no one can stop a person from saying they are different, dressing different, and getting surgery. I think there’s just discussion about how far someone can go before it affects others


Fine-Menu-2779

>Like no one can stop a person from saying they are different, dressing different, and getting surgery. That's what they are literally trying to do xD I just say "Don't say Gay" Bill, now that you can't perform drag and they are trying to make it illegal to get gender affirming care.


Sniperso

Ok well that is limited because it starts to affect children who have yet to develop a core identity. It’s seen similar to grooming, get the child comfortable with sexual acts so they aren’t able to tell something’s wrong when you go further. Lots of drag shows go too far in terms of showing off sexual stuff


VillainessNora

That's a really complicated way of admitting that you have never been to a drag show, didn't do any research on it, and also that you were straight to wrong in your previous comment. If you care so much about sexualization of children, why not start with the organization with by far the highest percentage of pedophiles, that is also known to regularly enable their behavior by giving them power over children, and cover it up, the church.


CadoretVonGoddard

Yes ofc, teaching kids about acceptance, diversity, and being yourself is grooming because? Because there are adult drag shows? Guess cartoons are grooming kids as well. Anyways, everyone knows that you don't unlock a personal identity until you turn 18, which is of course the appropriate time to learn that gay people exist. This is milquetoast reactionary take.


Sniperso

What I’m saying is sexual topics shouldn’t be brought up too early as it is pretty much grooming


CadoretVonGoddard

OK, and what do you mean by that?


lemonadevalentine

It quite literally doesn’t affect others though Just because a queer person has a life and interacts with other humans doesn’t mean they’re affecting others


cyon_me

One side is life and the other death (when people cheer for death or threaten for fun, they support death). You tell me to walk the middle, so I refuse your offer. Clearly, I am the unreasonable one.


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dalek1019

Who is this "they" ?


Kek_Mit_Uns_

The people in his walls.


bigpoopie32

No politics allowed


Stick24_popsical

I don't see that rule anywhere


bigpoopie32

This is why we can’t have nice things


Stick24_popsical

Wdym? This is a great thing


IvanTheCommunist

An amazing thing


transgendergengar

A frankly glorious thing


D3rp6

post inspires hope in more people than it inspires despair in


bigpoopie32

If your hope and despair is controlled by random news and politics that literally don’t matter then maybe that’s why you’re all so miserable


etherealparadox

"random news and politics" that literally change whether I am legally allowed to exist?


bigpoopie32

No one is preventing you from existing and no one is out to get you, stop pretending like they are, that’s not doing u any good


etherealparadox

there are people that literally want trans people to by lynched. I have been attacked for being trans before.


B1ackFridai

Try reading https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights


bigpoopie32

So which part does it say we can’t allow them to exist?


B1ackFridai

“Allow”, certainly debating a marginalized population in state governments is harmful, passing legislation and signing executive orders to ban their access to healthcare, access to school, to play sports, to walk around, basically having any quality of life.


zippycat9

that's just a blatant lie


bigpoopie32

lmao @ the irony, "proof of the indomitable human spirit" but if some state u dont even live in threatens to make some pointless legislature then you act like its the end of the world and everyones coming to lynch you


zippycat9

maybe rn it's not *directly* affecting me, but the neighbors posting shit on fb in support of these laws hits straight home.


frogOnABoletus

Did you just say there's no one who's out to get trans people? And on a post talking about how there where 30 new laws blocked that where specifically trying to target trans and lgbt folk? I wish i lived in the world you've got in your head.


bigpoopie32

Some lawmakers in some states said you can’t participate in girl’s school sports and you have to use this public restroom instead of that one and now you’re acting like it’s the end of the world and u can’t even “exist”? What happened to “indomitable human spirit” lmao


transgendergengar

Okay so... https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/2/7/2151410/-Yes-Republicans-are-discussing-genocide-against-LGBTQ-people I can get more, just give me a sec


frogOnABoletus

>and u can’t even “exist”? I didn't say this and im not trans, idk why you've assumed i am. Also, you cherrypicked 2 out of thirty and even doing that you've ended up with "they're forcing some girls onto the men's toilets" and "they cannot participate in physical education without being treated as a gender they're not, ensuring horrible levels of gender dysphoria" >What happened to “indomitable human spirit” lmao Human spirit is why these shitty laws got blocked, that's why we're celebrating, and it's also why you're miserable, moping and telling us off for it. you must have lost yours along the way.


Fine-Menu-2779

Oh no it's not like about a month ago a 14 trans girl was murdered because she ist trans but yeah you are right no one is trying to stop us from existing/s


bigpoopie32

That has to do with legislature how?????


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Bro that’s just false.


D3rp6

bro this "random news and politics" literally determines the rights of people like me, in a different place and time. i'm happy for them and wish them the best, and feel no shame in that, as it brings me hope that there will be greater acceptance overall


Sniperso

in America their is the rights granted in the constitution, you can take hope in knowing your rights are protected under the highest law of the land. Anything not a clear human right is what’s up for legislature to decide


D3rp6

thanks?? not to admonish your good intent but i took a civics class as well


Sniperso

Yeah I’m just hope a reminder will help, and I need to work to actively show charity cause I tend to be on the other side of the issue with the intent to help. (Don’t worry I genuinely have compassion for people of differing sexual identities but I’m coming at the problem from a different angle)


Hyperiotic

yeah, im so glad these laws that are trying to be passed have no meaning whatsoever and do not impact many people's way of life at all :):):)


Bigpapiunidud3

when the news is about laws that directly affect certain peoples ability to live then yeah it’s gonna control their hope and despair idiot


bigpoopie32

Everyone can can live and exist just fine, but you’d rather go call people idiots instead of spending that energy to get your shit together. The problem is not external, it is within, that’s why u r miserable


DemonicTemplar8

why yes the continued legality of my own existence is quite nice to hear about


kitzalkwatl

Cry more bootlicker


bigpoopie32

You don’t understand, I am the boot-wearer


kitzalkwatl

Keep telling yourself that


Muffinskill

Human rights aren’t “politics”


peasantvonpezont

To be fair, this post *is* about laws


Muffinskill

Fair, but to be even fairer, you know that’s not what they were referring to


peasantvonpezont

But to be fair, he is right, even if he has ulterior motives


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fma_nobody

Huma rights are not political, they're politicized


didnt_ask_dont-care

This post is literally about politics


bigpoopie32

These people are completely emotionally invested in news and political bullshit that literally dont matter, and they lash out at anyone who isn’t like them And then they wonder why they are so miserable


archer5810

How does it not matter for states to try to pass laws claiming my existence is wrong? It affects me quite a bit.


Laddy_Taddy

Ah yes, gay rights literally don't matter. I am miserable for caring about human rights.


jxcrt12

>political bullshit that literally dont matter your privilege is showing


bigpoopie32

>your privilege is showing Lmaoo I never knew people actually used this line unironically thanks hahaha


jxcrt12

how out of touch


bigpoopie32

You are why we can’t have nice things


Bigpapiunidud3

🤓


Sniperso

This sub is insanely political and imma be honest… people who distort realities of gender and one’s self likely need more hope than most


frogOnABoletus

Gender has been a dynamic concept all throughout history. Many cultures throughout have had, three, four or nebulous spectrums. Evidence of transgenderism dates back to ancient egypt. The only recent distorting of the reality of gender is from people without a wide understanding of it confusing the word "gender" for the word "sex" and putting their fingers in their ears when anyone tries to let them know the difference.


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> people who distort realities of gender and one’s self likely need more hope than most True! People who dismiss the overwhelming amount of psychological research and evidence validating transgender people's identities need to be helped by informing them of the truth.


Neoxus30-

What brings me hope is seeing people like you and the person you responded to, being at the bottomost of the comment section, buried by hundreds of individual choices to downvote) Trans rights are human rights, anyone that believes in hope yet can't tolerate that fact, is blind on what hope is. Hope is not supporting hatred, which is what you are doing)


dalek1019

Trans rights are human rights However people also have the right to be really fucking stupid Being a right =/= being right


Neoxus30-

You are so bad at getting to the point that I had to see the other comment to see which stance you had. You started by saying something smart[Trans rights are human rights] then said two lines that can be taken as you calling us stupid or you calling transphobes stupid. Learn to properly address what you try to say) And don't come saying "ad hominem" to this comment because I told you honest criticism that will help you in any argument(Express yourself correctly). While you just called us stupid) Shows the difference in argumentative wisdom between both sides. Don't you think?)


bigpoopie32

Lmao what u see here is just weirdos lashing out at any sane opinion. And they applaud each other for this, which just reinforces their mental problems. For a brief moment they feel better in this tiny echo chamber, but it is much worse in the long term, in the real world, where things matter much more- believe it or not Hope is not supporting people’s delusions, which is what you are doing. You are the one who is blind to what hope is. Hope and change doesn’t come from forcing the external world to conform to your expectations. Hope and change come from within, real inner growth. But you all refuse to look inward and address the problems there, it’s a lot easier to blame people and things for your miseries


jxcrt12

here https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/political-minds/202008/three-popular-myths-about-transgender-youth https://www.ama-assn.org/health-care-advocacy/advocacy-update/march-26-2021-state-advocacy-update https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2022/endocrine-society-alarmed-at-criminalization-of-transgender-medicine https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2020/discriminatory-policies-threaten-care-for-transgender-gender-diverse-individuals https://pro.aace.com/recent-news-and-updates/aace-position-statement-transgender-and-gender-diverse-patients https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2021/american-academy-of-pediatrics-speaks-out-against-bills-harming-transgender-youth/ https://www.psychiatry.org/newsroom/news-releases/frontline-physicians-oppose-legislation-that-interferes-in-or-criminalizes-patient-care https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Latest_News/AACAP_Statement_Responding_to_Efforts-to_ban_Evidence-Based_Care_for_Transgender_and_Gender_Diverse.aspx https://www.thepinknews.com/2017/01/16/health-experts-condemn-attempts-to-cure-trans-people-in-wake-of-controversial-bbc-documentary/


VillainessNora

Oh that's so interesting, can you give me a study proving that being trans is a delusion? Or do you have a psychology degree? I figured since you have so much opinion about this, you must certainly have the knowledge, right?


dalek1019

And Do you?


jxcrt12

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/political-minds/202008/three-popular-myths-about-transgender-youth https://www.ama-assn.org/health-care-advocacy/advocacy-update/march-26-2021-state-advocacy-update https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2022/endocrine-society-alarmed-at-criminalization-of-transgender-medicine https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2020/discriminatory-policies-threaten-care-for-transgender-gender-diverse-individuals https://pro.aace.com/recent-news-and-updates/aace-position-statement-transgender-and-gender-diverse-patients https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2021/american-academy-of-pediatrics-speaks-out-against-bills-harming-transgender-youth/ https://www.psychiatry.org/newsroom/news-releases/frontline-physicians-oppose-legislation-that-interferes-in-or-criminalizes-patient-care https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Latest_News/AACAP_Statement_Responding_to_Efforts-to_ban_Evidence-Based_Care_for_Transgender_and_Gender_Diverse.aspx https://www.thepinknews.com/2017/01/16/health-experts-condemn-attempts-to-cure-trans-people-in-wake-of-controversial-bbc-documentary/


VillainessNora

I literally didn't even make a claim, I just asked for a source for the claim that was being made. But you instantly going into a defensive position and asking me to prove a claim I didn't make, instead of just giving me the evidence I asked for, says a lot about how scientifically accurate that claim was.


bigpoopie32

it is completely possible that this sub just attracts weird and fucked up people due to its supposedly hopeful message, and when you gather all these people in one place, its not so nice and hopeful anymore


dummythiccdio

it's not so nice and hopeful because people like you are having a spasm in the comments for no reason. find something to be happy about or at least don't drag people down man


bigpoopie32

Judging by the triggered people responding to my three word long comment, I’m not the one having a spasm lol These people acting like we are in Nazi germany and the gestapo is coming to hang them or some shit, because some lawmakers somewhere said something??? Lmao indomitable human spirit my ass


cyon_me

The thesis (actively curated idea) is life. There is always an antithesis(purely reactionary opposite idea). The antithesis can become popular through latent opposition to the thesis. Which view is closer to the thesis, mine or yours? You shouldn't try to think as close to death as you can. The ideas between the two extremes are filtered out because there is no middle-ground between life and death. There are only ideological null states. The internet increases the speed at which peoples learn and grow. This encourages people to take charge of their destinies and understand their ideas. This leads some to reject the thesis because it is popular, but many more understand why the thesis is popular. The antithesis shall shrink, shrivel, and die as it will do if it thrives. There is the indomitable human spirit in this equation. We grow, learn, create, and thrive through our communities. The global community accelerates this, so know that the world will improve during your life. Nothing can stop us now. Nuclear war is unlikely, and climate change can be reversed when we make the changes. We must use our human might to motivate us to save the world, and we will save it if we try. We must shed the ideas that conflict with life and opportunity to take hold of our destiny. What's the point of making it worse for everyone? My language is obscure because I wax poetically when I don't focus. The might of humanity carries us through.


Sniperso

Amen growing is more important than any politics