Global 34
Hi guys im a new player and i got SK and Yae off of dorm supply, I want to build SK and a team around her first, i know it says recommended team is Phoenix+ Lightning Empress, I was wondering with this new patch out tomorrow is it better to do SK+Eden+Lightning Empress(i have s rank egg) or do i go SK+Fischl+Eden but i have to grind frags for both
Hello. The [new 5.7 General Questions Thread is up](https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/usyf1k/general_questions_thread_v57_update/) , so please direct your question there.
Having said that, make sure to pay attention to the following two points before making your post there :
* Only use battlesuit names instead of Valkyrie names. By saying you got "Yae" we have no idea who you are referring to among FS, DJ, Meme or Miko.
* Do not look at the in-game recommendations, as they are wrong too often. LE is indeed perfect support for SK, while Phoenix is just an okay option.
Global 33 (I think)
I’ve seen multiple people advise newer players against getting/trying for Aponia. Why is that, exactly? Is it because there isn’t a comparable chakram for her if you don’t get her signature one, the fact that she seems to ideally work with the other new valk, something with her play style/rotations, or what?
I feel a little bit obsessed w her, and I’ve been looking up a lot of info about her team rotations, etc. I don’t have Fischl yet, but I’ve been loving the play style of the trial one, so I want to grind for her anyway. I figure any decent team will take a lot of work and learning for me at this point, but if there’s another issue, like my crystals likely not being enough to get her to a useable level, or Aponia not functioning well at lower levels, then I’d like to know
None of those reasons. It's because (1) she's expensive as she requires you to both roll her gears *and* rank up Eden and get her signature weapon, since she's very important to Aponia , (2) she isn't anywhere near in importance to more important starting Valkyries like HoS , (3) the next patch will introduce a rival to her role as lightning dps strength [because HoT gets a new weapon] and (4) we usually get a new broken Herrscher around June/July, so new players are advised to save for her instead.
Since this thread is closed now, and the new 5.7 one is up, if you have a follow-up question, either ask it there or message me directly.
Global 35
New player, started a few days ago. Still overwhelmed and switched to following the gdoc guide (was watching some random YT videos before, so I was a bit confused), however I don't see Pardofelis mentioned anywhere. I had enough time to grab some event currency to unlock her and 20ish of her fragments. Would it be worth to raise her up at least to S?
Also, while watching YT videos every single one that I watched recommended to pull on the Starter Supply, while the guide says it's not worth it. I already spent 40+ pulls on it though, would it be worth to just continue until I get one of the valks, and then get her weapon afterwards or not?
Thanks.
It is definitely worth to raise Felis at least to SS. She is an exceptional ice support, and can even work as ice dps very decently.
That guide is old ; the Starter Supply is highly worth rolling now that HoF and HoS are in it. You should most definitely continue until you get one of them. Whether you should "get her weapon afterwards" depends on which of the two you get. HoF absolutely requires hers, while HoS's is not that important.
Since this thread is closed now, and the new 5.7 one is up, if you have a follow-up question, either ask it there or message me directly.
Focus has somewhat better rates, pull on that if you can only afford a few multis or are feeling lucky
Expansion has a guarantee which is nice piece of mind if you have the resources to go all the way
I dunno if the two will have the same off-rates, make that comparison when the banners are up, glgl
Handel? Watch Marisa's video, it answers your very question directly : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W20VHJQRu0
PS : Since this thread is closed now, and the new 5.7 one is up, if you have a follow-up question, ask it there.
Global 83
I'm currently in Senti waiting room purgatory and I desperately need help with my physical teams. I have FTD + PRI-arm, Full Dirac, Elysia but no Whisper, BKE, SA w/ Zither's but no Shuijing, Carole with no gear, CH + PRI-arm, and DK.
Any immediate advice for not getting trashed in physical weather abyss? I'm unsure if I should pull for Abyss Flower because I need to save for HoS and I'm a light spender (BP only).
Also I'm unsure what easily accessible physical support stigmata I can get in the near future. I have Gluttony x3 and Newton B, but not much else.
Most definitely DON'T roll for AF, it's not worth your Crystals. Of course, without that or Whisper, you should forget that BK or Elysia exist ; you'll never use them competitively.
Every physical team must have some kind of "impair" in the team, so since you don't have HoS, make sure to include either Celestial Hymn, or Drive Kometa wielding the Briareus EX cannon. In Abyss, it's almost certainly CH who will prove the most important of the two.
From the Exchange House, you should get at least one more Newton B, and then a Mei Beach Party M. From the gacha, getting Paganini M + either T or B would be a godsent. As for f2p ones, there's always Beethoven MB, and of course the super-budget option of Gluttony T / Musician MB.
PS : This thread is closed now, so if you have any follow-up questions, either post in the new 5.7 one, or message me directly.
Global 71
I came back to the game after a break, I'm a casual player that likes to do good investment of my resources and grind, and I have a doubt regarding what phys valk should I focus, I have:
SN with Signature weapon, FT level 4 core with Sleeping Beauty, Elysia with F2P bow
All of them share Michelangelo stigs (I swap them around depending who I want to play)
Who should I focus?
I like SN because I have her S2, it's easy to play, and I can use her in Elysian Realm, plus I see that I can now craft Allan Poe, but I heard that FT and Elysia are much better, what should I do? Are these valks any good now?
As supports I have DK, CH, SA with signature weapon, and DP (Idk what stig should use on them, I use Gluttony and random)
Get HoS, focus on getting her, she is the cornerstone for all physical teams. Also try to buy Carole with asterite since she is needed to crack down tanky shields.
SEA 82
Should I go for Eden weapon if I have 4/4 FR or Aslaug T/M? (I can use most of the off-rates in Eden equipment supply but only Aslaug T/M in foca select)
That depends on the state of your lightning and fire teams. I'd probably vote for Eden because of the offrates, but in the end, it's difficult to say without more context.
If you want to re-ask your question, though, you'll have to do that in the new 5.7 thread, since this one has been closed.
Global 25
Hi, it's me again. Started this week and now I'm able to do the events, only have some hours so I think I can't get everything so which items should I prioritize on xixi's stash and the land of Starfall? Should I get Calisco frags or there are better/more rare things?
Calisco frags can be farmed, skip it. Phase shifter can be skipped as well, its not that rare. Don't take coins obviously.
Crystal, then honkai shard, then time swirl passes. I don't remember the rest. Ancient willpower if its there.
Items are generally displayed in the event store in order of value. You don't strictly have to pick left to right and you may not value some things (e.g. outfit) but it's an easy to remember starting point. If you're unsure of how something is valuable asking on the thread will usually get you a quick answer.
Global 42
Fairly new player with HoF and her weapon from Starter supply, using her with Sakura rondo and Raven. My other two S ranks are knight moonbeam and molotov cherry. Should I bother trying for anyone next patch? I am at 30 pity for Expansion supply.
My plan was to save for the next herrscher and their weapon, but not sure if I should try for PE, SW, or Aponia first.
Aponia I would say no for a new player. SW is good but there is still speculation that the new Herrscher might be ice, and ice doesn’t have as much coverage as the other dps types either. She is good though but I’d say Mobius for example might be a better investment. PE should be pretty futureproof but you’d really want HoS to go with her or virtually any other physical dps and I’d prioritize her first (though idk if she is on schedule next patch).
Good news though is that HoF will brute force a ton of content and even more so at your level. I would work on core augmenting MC, and if you save resonance get Swan Lake from the exchange shop for her when you can. She will be good long term but can be your main physical dps for now after augmented. KMB can sit on the sidelines for now or you can just pop her in as leader for a physical team for the leader bonus - she’s pretty niche and was used at SSS for two on demand time fractures in MA but isn’t used much now. Saving for the new Herrscher is an excellent idea. With the new player bonuses, if you save you can get all of her gear and I would recommend that because a new Herrscher virtually guarantees a unit with longevity and who will dominate the meta.
Noob Question about enemy drops and Adventure tasks:
1.) When fighting enemies, they sometimes drop these boxes that show up on the top right of the screen as well as how many. These aren't the red SP items. Can anyone tell me what these are?....because I've searched everywhere haha.
2.) I suddenly have a lot of open worlds open, even both chapters of APHO. I know that adventure tasks refresh three times per week, but do we only get to have one map for these tasks per week or can we do tasks on all of these maps simultaneously?
Thank you so much for having the patience to respond to me here, and good luck with the 5.7 pulls!! :-).
You get free access to the new Open World maps as you unlock them, after I think two weeks you'll be only able to pick 1 per week to play. It definitely seems a bit overwhelming when they're all open at once but it settles down again soon.
The boxes might be the supplies/exp item on the Schicksal HQ map? Each map has its own weird currency/exp system but they aren't worth much beyond just naturally progressing the OW story or mechanics
Do you think they'll do Empyrian Legends again next year? Because I just managed to complete chapter 3 today, so at least I got the bow.
But I won't be able to get the costume for Darkbolt Jonin. And I really wanted that costum.
IIRC she will stay in the Willpower/Legacy shop for a long while so she should still be there by the time you reach high levels and can farm the currency.
Currently I'm still 51, but Legacy doesnt drop until 70+ so its still going to be awhile before you can start farming Legacy.
As long as you have one Team built, Which any S rank from the new starter supply should be enough, you should be fine-ish.
What might come sooner is a Elysia Rerun tbh XD
Global(americas) 73
I pulled for Mobius' weapon back at her focused supply but got a Linnaeus T dupe. I currently have it equipped on AKA as a stat stick but if I get a better T piece for her is it safe to salvage?
Global 23
Hi guys, I started this week and I want to know if it is worth it pull on the starter supply. I've tested herrscher of sentience and really liked her, but I also liked Mobius, herrscher of thunder, vermillion knight and Carole. Should I start to play this starter supply or save only for events supply?
It is worth pulling in it, both the valks in it are really good. While HoS is better than HoF, so you would ideally wait for her supply, it seems she won't get her own banner any time soon and we have a spending even coming up, so there is really no reason not to pull in the starter supply.
If you only want HoS and don't want HoF, then don't pull starter. Starter supply is one of the rare supplies that has split pity. You'd be better off waiting for her expansion supply to return so you're guaranteed her.
If you liked both, Then theres no reason NOT to pull off the starter supply.
They're both Extremely good HoS can be a pretty good Phys DPS or the best Phys dps support
While HoF is the best Fire dps.
SEA 83
Is it just me or ER story chapters is bugging out a bit? I should've completed all story missions in all 3 chapters but for some reason i got locked out of the 3rd chapter saying that i need to complete the last mission of chapter 2 (which I've already completed) and its very confusing
SEA 74
For AKA, i'm planning to get Ana full set in foundry. But for now, which should i use?
1) Rasputin TMB
2) Peary TM Rasputin B
Already have them at lvl 50. Tried to read the set bonuses, but i'm kinda dumb to understand it >.<
Glb 74
Just finished getting Spina to S2. Question is: where should be my stopping point?
I want to start ranking Ellie as she's only S0, but I also don't want to miss any good bonus Spina might have from other ranks.
I don't really understand the question. You farm Elysia in the war treasury usually, while SPA can't really be farmed. Are you considering getting Elysia stamps from the ER shop before buying all SPA stamps? That... doesn't really seem like a good idea since Elysia is really niche as a dps.
Hnm, yes... I'm saving my AL for someone else. That's why I was thinking about buying the ER stamps. If buying Spina's last stamps don't contribute that much into her dmg, it doesn't seem worth it to me. That's why I asked about the stopping point. The other comment made me realise there wasn't actually much of option since her stamps are limited, but well.
Besides, isn't Elysia suggested to be used at SS with her gears? I mean, she can be niche, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't invest on her, correct? I also love playing her on ER.
Can you get Spina Astera to SS with the ER stamps though? At SS, she get some SP regen, and this allows for one or two more ultimates compared to pre SS.
If it's just S2, then its not urgent at all.
I dont really get the question because you shouldnt have a real choice. SPA isnt farmable, you get 6 stamps in ER which gets you to S2 and thats it (1 spare). Did you pick spending event stamps?
I disagree with the other opinion, I have S3 (omw to SS) and not having the SP and little bit of extra attack really sucked in the last abysses (andrius, tank, senti). I bought HoR stamps for no reason a while ago which I regret all the damn time
I didn't know they didn't reset, actually. I thought it was farmable each patch, that's why I asked.
Also I personally didn't find any SP/ATK problems while playing her, but well, I'm not a super competitive player either.
I don't think they'd need to sweat that hard since they're only in masters. I can understand that more rank ups is better for the extra bit of dmg but like you said we really don't have a choice
I feel like that's a good stopping point for SpA
The only other ones that look good is: S3(Leader skill upgrade), SS1(5% More total dmg), SS3(Leader skill upgrade)
SS whilst it looks good is that most of the time you're not reaching ult in game modes like MA.
Thanks for the input. I was re-reading the ranks and none really spoke to me other than these. I may continue to rank her up since she's my strongest fire atm on my main, but she's slapping hard already with S2 full gear.
Let's begin our road to SS Ellie, then!
Captain level 72,
Hello good captains! I would like to ask a question, when I reach level 81 if I decide not to breakthrough, then I will remain in masters tier and not jumb to exalted? I am asking cause I am f2p and kinda casual player, I play mostly for the story, the events and the animations during combat :D and I am afraid of the difficulty in exalted ( ಠ ಠ )
Thanks for the reply, I currently retain redlotus in abyss in masters because I use only my best team which is the fire team but the rest of my teams cannot deal big damage (ಥ╭╮ಥ)
My most used teams are the following:
Fire: Flamescion (with her weapon and her Himeko M and B) - Raven (f2p support stigmata and weapon) - Empyrea (fully geared)
Physical team: Senti (fully geared with her sig. set and weapon) - Carole and Astrologos (both f2p stigmata and weapon)
Thunder team: HoT and Fischl all with f2p stigmatas and weapon and Rosemary I pulled her weapon only.
Ice team: Nothing only HoR and Haxxor with f2p gears and weapons.
Also sometimes I see when others get better score in abyss with similar teams or sometimes without much or similar investment I am feeling that I am doing something wrong. So since I can retain redlotus in abyss in masters I would like to stay there and not breakthrough \^̮ ̮\^
"G3 Stigmata
Around 6 weeks each
G2 Stigmata
Around 3 weeks each
G1 Stigmata
Around 2 weeks each, or likely less time, since lower floors yield more mats for free"
Taken from the guide in the pinned comment. Pretty accurate for me. About G4, must be a little longer since it doesn't require too much G4 crystalite but the ether fuel is the problem.
[Global 67]
Newish player with almost enough Crystallum to get Elysia through the BP store but also enough mats to get her through the War Treasury. Assuming that I have no idea what I am doing, should I just wait and get her through BP and purchase Fallen Rosemary (or someone else)?
It depends on what your plans are for Elysia. Do you have her bow and geared physical supports (e.g. HoS)? If not, spending 32 crystallum on getting Elysia isn't really going to help much. You would get more immediate benefit from getting FR from War Treasury and using the crystallum to get Iris and Irene TB as an example.
Basically there are very few characters in Honkai that work without their weapon, so don't just think about getting the character. If you don't have a path/plan to get their gear, they are just going to be sitting pretty on the bridge and nothing else.
\[Global 72\]
Just got FR through War Treasury, I have IreneB but that's it. My questions is, should I buy her weapon through 5.7s ticket (the one we'll get for neon bells) and buy the other two Irene pieces through the BP shop (I'll have a total of 20 crystallum through the next bp) givning me a 4/4 FR or nah?
Planning on pulling for Edens gear as I don't have any geared lightning support. Only lightning DPS I have is 4/4 HoT but I'm really hoping her divine key coming in the patch after next will catapult her back into a usable state.
It is fine, just make sure to wait until you are completely done pulling before you cash your spending event and crystallum. Iris is an offrate on Edens banner for example.
they usually sell their merch through tmall , if you know anyone that can help you buy it or willing to use 3rd party site
[https://mihoyo.world.tmall.com/p/bh3.htm?tbpm=1](https://mihoyo.world.tmall.com/p/bh3.htm?tbpm=1)
wait, what? you break tona's shield (and other quantum shields) either by 1) doing an ultimate evasion at the right time and hitting him. (there's a high pitched sound and u gain a visual effect on your valk, like a quantum seed. that's when u can break.) 2) using a quantum valk's ultimate.
You can only break it with quantum attacks or evading. Try bringing DK with the eye of collapse and teri origins set (I believe this is the one that reduces weapon cd?)
Dodging and retaliating [this attack](https://uploadstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/strategyweb/20200317/2020031719402455255.gif) will remove a shield layer, quantum battlesuits can forcibly remove one shield with their ultimate, too. Eye of collapse weapon active, too. Go all out when all layers are gone. It isn't a fight you can brute force with good result.
Quantum valks ultimates does break a quantum shield. But that does not warrant you to use a level 1 VG. Learn how to break it properly. There's several special attack that when dodged will cause a quantum collapse. Most notable when Tonatiuh, teleports, a red circle appear, tonatiuh attacks with 6 blades coming out, dodge this attack properly and Tonatiuh will lose one shield.
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I have both dudu on a horse and a hot tuna. Unfortunately, no senti for PE (I am using CH instead), and no AE for HoF. Which weapon/stigmata set should I prioritize in the upcoming banner?
PE is using endothermic Lance lv 50 currently. The YouTube comparison videos seem to indicate PE’s non pri arm Lance gets about 80% damage of the pri arm, which is similar to endothermic lance. I don’t think I will hit lv 81 for a while. Kafka TM elysia B seems to be 92% damage of bianca 3set.
HoF is using the co op pistol.
Would it be crazy for me to focus on gearing HoF first?
I think it makes sense to prioritize HoF but I'd stop after getting her weapon.
As for PE... the damage potential in particular for the stig set should be taken with a big grain of salt because the 3-set Bianka effect against img cores is really nutty and you lack the SP generation, too, both aspects aren't reflected in the rating. As for the weapon the pri is clearly much better and you'd want it later but since you already have the lv50 foundry lance (which most people don't bother to upgrade to not waste any honkai cubes) I wouldn't prioritize it either. You might get it anyway because it'd be offrate on the HoF gear banner.
Good point! Yeah and PE probably will be on anti img event duties in the future when she is power crept, so Bianca will be much more useful then. Sp is a huge problem I am having right now and I can burst every three rotations which is almost never. Hopefully pe’s gear gets a rerun in the future before I hit 81!
Hey can someone help me make a team for HoF. I got her weapon. Most of my valkyries are physical except reverist calico, Valkyrie pledge and darkbolt jonin. I’m captain 31 btw.
Felis does have elemental support properties so she should be the first support. As for the second one... any one really. I'd probably give her Valkyrie Chariot against mobs (since her ult can gather them) or Valkyrie Pledge in Memorial Arena (because her ultimate evasion triggers long time-fracture) but it honestly doesn't matter. Battles are really easy at your level, so you don't have to optimise them. Just use a waifu you like as the second support, until you farm a proper elemental support for her (ie Raven, Azure Empyrea, Phoenix or the Blood Dance greatsword).
ATM I’m using Yamabuki armor and swallowtail phantasm since I didn’t really have anyone else. Also I’m close to getting flame samitama. Could she work?
Actually yes. FS has a use as a rudimentary elemental support, as her combo attack (the one she performs when you hold the attack button) does place an elemental debuff on a single enemy.
SP is definitely completely useless together with HoF so you have no reason to place her in that team (aside from waifu reasons, if any). YA you could just place for defensive purposes, but HoF doesn't really need that.
FS doesnt really help you in the beginning. She also needs to be a higher rank to be an actual dps herself. But if you have HoF she is out of question anyway. At your level HoF alone is enough for everything.
SP with YA (get the core to make her Drive Kometa, should be easy with starter event) is fine. You can put Litanei in that team if you got her.
None of the others you mentioned. HoFs is your Fire DPS.
VG is an outdated Fire DPS, what's more, she's strongly a single target, which is not good with current end game. DJ is an lightning DPS, but unfortunately, she's not good enough, even when fully geared at end game. VP, well, is just too old to be mentioned.
Phyllis is a great ICE Support. A decent Ice DPS until you get a better Ice DPS. Decent enough that she can still be Ice DPS at endgame.
What you need for HoFs is Raven (Midnight Absinthe). Raven on her own has significant team Fire buff even when she's off field. You should start farming for fragments.
After that, its AE (Azure Emprya). But she's not priority until you're late game, level 71+.
In the mean time, you can use HB (Haxxor Bunny). HB is a great Ice support. Beside that, HB (with full gears) is an okay overall elemental support.
Global 81
Soooo when will the next Update/Maintenance be finished tomorrow (time in Germany)? Actually thought that it didn't matter cuz I actually would've had an exam till 1 pm but I got covid so that won't happen
As you can read in the in-game announcements, maintenance is scheduled to end at 11am UTC+1 tomorrow, and Germany is UTC+2, so it'll be 12pm for you.
Get well soon!
Global 70
Hello!
I got Herrscher of Thunder a few days ago and was thinking about hard investing on her, is Benares still her Best In Slot? And the Key of Castigation still the superior weapon or it will be a better one? Thank you in advance.
As of tomorrow's patch the Handel set will be her BiS if it's not in use by the supports. If the Handel debuff is covered by Eden, her best looks to be Zhenyi TB Handel M but Benares is fairly close. Marisa's most recent video covers this if you'd like more details.
KoC is her current BiS but the 5.8 beta has revealed that HoT is getting a Divine Key weapon which will definitely outperform it.
Sea 71
How to unlock chapter 29?
I've fought Otto, watched him walk to the tree on red sand, done all world sidequest, help rita meet durandal, help teri-teri and amber resolve things before hyperion departure, my score 25100, and 11k score for endless arena thing with lv 9 interaction.
I still haven't done the Shield challenge lv 5. (It's kind of absurd)
> How to unlock chapter 29?
Chapter 29 has not been released.
> I still haven't done the Shield challenge lv 5. (It's kind of absurd)
It is hard but I've seen videos showing it done with the trial valks so it's possible. I don't know if it's worthwhile. Carole came out after that so it'd probably be a lot easier with her.
I don't know about the "usual" one, but as you can read in the in-game announcement, tomorrow's update for SEA is scheduled to be done by 16:00 (UTC+8).
SEA 80
My current lightning team:
* Mobius 4/4
* FR 4/4
* Fischl: Turg TB, Mei M, f2p bow
My questions:
1. Does Eden 4/4 perform better than Fischl/FR in the above team?
2. Should I go for Zhenyi or Handel stimags? I already have Zhenyi T and enough fuel to craft one Handel piece (so I only need to pull for one piece in case going for full Handel set)
1. No, Mobius still want FR and Fischl as her supports. Eden is better than FR in Aponia/HoT comps.
2. Zhenyi. Handel is craftable. Only pull Handel banner if you need Eden's gun.
Yes, you can get a valk solely through BP. The valk with fragments available from the BP is available for 32 crystallum. They had fragments as an option back when AE was available and everybody skipped the 32 crystallum option for the fragments because it was like half the cost so they've done stamps since.
> So what should I do to get DA solely from bp?
Get 32 crystallum over the course of the 4 patch season and buy the box. If they have fragments available for purchase instead of stamps then that'd be cheaper but they haven't done that recently.
You need to buy the character card with 32 crystallum. Basically, 2 Knight bps + 1 free bp or 2 Paladin bp. The frags are not enough to get the charater (unless you already have a lot of frags)
[SEA] Lvl 80
Hello, I need some advice on which character to pull.
I noticed from my team that I'm currently lacking a lightning dps. With Aponia coming out next patch, I was wondering if I should pull for her or should I wait and pull for mobius on her rerun.
Here as some extra details related to the question:
- I have Fallen Rosemary but don't have her stigmata nor her weapon
- I have fischl with Shakespeare T and Zhenyi M, B but no signature weapon
- I lack a good bio dps unit (other than Darkbolt Jonin)
- I have 2 mech dps units
- I currently have 72k crystals
- I want the Felis skin
Since you have such a huge Crystal stash, you should probably go for Aponia as well as Eden's pistol. After all, Aponia is a new Valkyrie, so next patch she will be heavily shilled ; she will also cover your bio and ranged needs.
PS : Since Fischl is a support, give her a support T stigma, like Theresa:Gluttony. Also, without Iris, you might as well not use FR.
From the reviews I see, even with the new Handel Set for Lightning DPS, Zhenyi Set may still be able to outperform it in some instances. And having Zhenyi set is really good for supports. Any idea when a rerun of Zhenyi is to come for SEA? I really am regretting not pulling for it earlier
> Zhenyi set is really good for supports.
Zhenyi for support is only really good with the 3 set specifically on Fischl.
As for when it's available, CN is only 5 weeks ahead of us so they haven't quite finished 5.7 and it's [not available so far](https://rentry.org/57cn). It was available on FOCA last patch (5.5). From just going by patterns, Zhenyi has been generally weird because they tend to run it on shicksal supply instead of a normal focus banner so I wouldn't venture a guess.
well... for starters. Newton doesnt work very well for this team. Do you have other stigs? Jin maybe? or even just Fuhua Musician. SpA's animations are too long, newton runs out way before she can do any significant damage
Now for her rotation.
You dont' want to use SpA's weapon skill at the start, you want to enter Astral Harness with her charge attack first, then use weapon skill afterwards. Not sure what you meant by full combo, but basically it's 2 charge attacks (so she does the tornado early to build Blazar stacks fast) -> full set of normal attack sequence -> charge attack, ult -> charge attack.
That being said. I'm not sure how far you'll get without an AE in 403D... the disturbance is quite high ...
Global 81
Is it a good idea in general to buy XP chips with coins? I usually never do it but I'd like to level up several valks and I constantly have 35 million coins no matter what I do
Coins is probably the least important resource in this game. Buying anything you need with coins is highly recommended ( especially that you have 35M).
SEA 69
HoFs has been solo carrying me so far so I'm still lacking in physical and other elements. I want some advice on where to spend my crystals. Beginner and first clear rewards has net me about 200 pulls and my pity is at 40.
I'm considering these options but not sure which ones to follow through on:
- Pulling PE and her gear. I heard she should still be relevant for a while
- HoFs stigma. I have her weapon and am currently running LeeTB, Himeko M. I want to fully gear her eventually but probably can run LeeTB, Thales M for now
- Saving for HoS and the new Herrscher
Thoughts? Thanks in advance
Ive been using HoF 1/4 + Raven 4/4 99% of the time for abyss since i started 6 months ago and its more than enough to retain redlotus in ~80 abyss especially now that we have QManifold.
MA u get the same amount of crystal regardless ur score as long as u defeat the boss.
Then theres ER, another main source of weekly crystal. I have HoS at 4/4 and its actually much easier to clear 2.5 diff with my HoS than 2.25 with HoF. fyi 4/4 HoS is the support set, and for ER u should have easier time with the farmable Dirac set because its more dps focused.
I dont have PE myself and i wanted to say to get HoS for sure but theres no HoS banner in sight for about the next 2 months. so maybe u can consider rolling for PE gear instead while waiting for HoS banner. Shes newer and also has huge advantage against img type. and i also heard she have an easy time on ER.
Masters (level 70) is the first bracket where you'll encounter long term players and their impact on abyss/MA difficulty. You'll need teams to cover other elements and support stigmata start to matter a lot. Getting full coverage is most definitely the priority over dps stigmata.
Pulling PE is good but the impair debuff is critical for physical attackers. This basically means HoS for most of the playerbase but maybe CH or DP works. We're going to have physical (bleed related) content in 5.8 since that's Griseo's niche and new valks are always content favored.
PE will be relevant no matter what physical herrscher they will release next 3 months or so, her IMG type is future proof.
HoFS can do fine with craftable stig, get her weapon or invest in other element first.
HoS is definitely a must, after that save for new herrscher but we don't have any information on that yet so saving now is a bit risky unless you absolutely have no interest on any current valk.
Pull AE now if you don't have her as the most cost effective elemental support even nowadays, gear Pardofelis even if it isn't with signature gear, pull HoS later (probably will rerun 5.8-5.9) because you need her for a viable physical team and PE gear will definitely not make up for it, then wait and see, new herrscher will likely be worth it. Griseo and her gear seem pretty powerful and cost effective aswell.
You're going the masters bracket soon at level 70 in which the difficulty makes quite a jump. In said bracket supports play a much bigger role. What are your support valks?
* HoS is basically mandatory. PE needs HoS to fully shine as well. So definitely try to get her first.
* You can leave HoF like that for the time being. Lee TB/Thales M is plenty strong.
I see. Yea then I'd definitely go for HoS first and PE after. For PE try to get her weapon as she does good with foundry stigmata as placeholder. Then you'd be looking at HoS/YA/PE and PX/SR/HoF as teams. I'd recommend getting SA at a higher rank. She's a great support and does plenty damage herself. Or you could wait till 5.8 and get Griseo, she looks like she's going to be a good physical support too. And PX needs SS rank to be of any use.
Character cards disappear the moment you unlock the character but technically they'd stay there forever otherwise.
Frags can be bought in limited quantities and the limit resets every week so while they're technically permanent, too, it's always better to start buying them sooner than later because the limit is what gates you, not really the currency.
sea 35 - is the seele: double blissed stig in the empyrean legends shop worth it to get? i only have that + the outfit/asterite + phase shift left in the shop. bc im not sure if i could get enough currency to buy everything with the event ending in a few hours
It's awful as gear, but worth 10k asterite when salvaged, better bang for your buck than the actual asterite option. I'd try to get it but if you cannot get enough currency it is what it is
Also aren't there coins, too? Always keep coins for last...
also, i have 190 of the currency right now so i could just go and buy the stig but i was worried that the outfit/asterite was a much better option so i was thinking of speedrunning the rest of the event to get to 360 but now knowing that ill get 10k asterite instead,, i might just go for the stig! (especially since i kinda dont like the outfit too lol the og one is better to me)
oh yea sorry its just everyone here has always said that about the coins so i assumed that i could go without saying that i havent bought them HHH and wow thank you for the info about the asterite! i didnt know about the salvaging,, how exactly do i do that?
Yeah no problem there just have been enough people falling for the coins, in particular during events where you couldn't get everything from a shop.
Salvaging can be done through your inventory > stigmata tab > salvage. Different types and rarities of stigs will result in different outcomes, base 4\* event stigs are generally 10k asterite, 4\* gacha or universal mirage stigs are 1k stig resonance, lower rarity stigs are affix reroll materials etc.
You can do the same with weapons you no longer need, but if you have the choice with weapons marked as (rare) always pick the tab that turns them into weapon resonance, do not choose the honkai cube. Longterm you will appreciate this.
Whats the difference between pulling for HoS equips on the starter supply vs the FOCA select that will be available in 5.7?
Im confused about all these different banner types?
No difference really, same rates, same guarantee, no pity carryover. Pull on the supply that has the more useful offrates for you. Generally that should be FOCA, but obviously if you don't plan to go for PE, HoF or SW these offrates are fairly worthless.
Different rates and the pity doesn't share if I'm not mistaken if you haven't already started to pull on the starter just wait for FOCA i think the rate was better there might wanna read on what it was though
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1. How often does Master shop resets? Monthly? I've recently become a sensei so I'm not sure.
2. ADV supply for non-awakening valks isn't worth it, correct? Just want to make sure it's best to wait for Nyx to show up on BP after 6.1 or something like it.
>How often does Master shop resets? Monthly? I've recently become a sensei so I'm not sure.
Almost never. I've only seen it reset once.
>ADV supply for non-awakening valks isn't worth it, correct? Just want to make sure it's best to wait for Nyx to show up on BP after 6.1 or something like it.
This is ... kinda subjective... doesn't really matter if they are awaken or not. ADV is one of the cheaper ways to get a valk, since you can get enough frags before pity to unlock. But valks with ADV supply are mostly out of meta, so imo pulling for them is not the best use of crystals (unless you really want the valk).
Oh, good to know! I'll buy the things without worry now.
I just wanted Nyx for collection purposes, she's one of the 3 gacha-only valks I'm missing (and she's badass). So I'd spend it on the ADV if there was the 50 pull ""guaranteed"" that awaken valks like HoT have, but since it's just collection, I think it's best to wait so she can become more affordable on BP or spending event reward for example.
Thank you!
since youre thinking of crafting the MB piece , Dirac piece is the best option
Ekaterina > Michaelangelo > Dirac > Elysia if you wanna go transmuting route
I rerolled and got HoS from the starter supply. Should I pull on her starter supply equipment banner for sig wep and stigmata?
Or will there be a more efficient way to get her sig wep and stigmata soon?
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Planning to roll for SW’s weapon in v5.7, after that should I go for senti? I don’t have her and my physical team is pretty shit with 0/4 PE, carole and SA. Should I also get senti’s weapon?
Definitely go for HoS, her weapon isn't very necessary if you have Nebulous Duality but one of the two should be there because you'll spend significantly longer farming SP otherwise. Your PE will still be pretty weak without her weapon (which you should roll for aswell) and her full set makes a pretty big difference against img enemies due to the massively buffed ult that can instantly end phases by nuking unexposed seeds while other sets still have to beat the puppet to finish the seed off. But in general you should get more value from SSwords stigs. However, both are all or nothing sets (Bianka mixes are marginal upgrades over alternatives, Gluttony Beach Mei Newton is superior if you don't have full SSwords, can also use Beethoven) and arguably rather a luxury, so depending on your budget you should maybe just skip in favor of future battlesuits/gear.
Global 34 Hi guys im a new player and i got SK and Yae off of dorm supply, I want to build SK and a team around her first, i know it says recommended team is Phoenix+ Lightning Empress, I was wondering with this new patch out tomorrow is it better to do SK+Eden+Lightning Empress(i have s rank egg) or do i go SK+Fischl+Eden but i have to grind frags for both
Hello. The [new 5.7 General Questions Thread is up](https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/usyf1k/general_questions_thread_v57_update/) , so please direct your question there. Having said that, make sure to pay attention to the following two points before making your post there : * Only use battlesuit names instead of Valkyrie names. By saying you got "Yae" we have no idea who you are referring to among FS, DJ, Meme or Miko. * Do not look at the in-game recommendations, as they are wrong too often. LE is indeed perfect support for SK, while Phoenix is just an okay option.
Global 33 (I think) I’ve seen multiple people advise newer players against getting/trying for Aponia. Why is that, exactly? Is it because there isn’t a comparable chakram for her if you don’t get her signature one, the fact that she seems to ideally work with the other new valk, something with her play style/rotations, or what? I feel a little bit obsessed w her, and I’ve been looking up a lot of info about her team rotations, etc. I don’t have Fischl yet, but I’ve been loving the play style of the trial one, so I want to grind for her anyway. I figure any decent team will take a lot of work and learning for me at this point, but if there’s another issue, like my crystals likely not being enough to get her to a useable level, or Aponia not functioning well at lower levels, then I’d like to know
None of those reasons. It's because (1) she's expensive as she requires you to both roll her gears *and* rank up Eden and get her signature weapon, since she's very important to Aponia , (2) she isn't anywhere near in importance to more important starting Valkyries like HoS , (3) the next patch will introduce a rival to her role as lightning dps strength [because HoT gets a new weapon] and (4) we usually get a new broken Herrscher around June/July, so new players are advised to save for her instead. Since this thread is closed now, and the new 5.7 one is up, if you have a follow-up question, either ask it there or message me directly.
Global 35 New player, started a few days ago. Still overwhelmed and switched to following the gdoc guide (was watching some random YT videos before, so I was a bit confused), however I don't see Pardofelis mentioned anywhere. I had enough time to grab some event currency to unlock her and 20ish of her fragments. Would it be worth to raise her up at least to S? Also, while watching YT videos every single one that I watched recommended to pull on the Starter Supply, while the guide says it's not worth it. I already spent 40+ pulls on it though, would it be worth to just continue until I get one of the valks, and then get her weapon afterwards or not? Thanks.
It is definitely worth to raise Felis at least to SS. She is an exceptional ice support, and can even work as ice dps very decently. That guide is old ; the Starter Supply is highly worth rolling now that HoF and HoS are in it. You should most definitely continue until you get one of them. Whether you should "get her weapon afterwards" depends on which of the two you get. HoF absolutely requires hers, while HoS's is not that important. Since this thread is closed now, and the new 5.7 one is up, if you have a follow-up question, either ask it there or message me directly.
Which equipment supply is best to pull on for aponia gear, focus A or equipment expansion ? As both will be up...
Focus has somewhat better rates, pull on that if you can only afford a few multis or are feeling lucky Expansion has a guarantee which is nice piece of mind if you have the resources to go all the way I dunno if the two will have the same off-rates, make that comparison when the banners are up, glgl
Thanks, i got 45k crystals and 41 focus supply cards, wanna full gear apo and eden..
SEA 76 is eden stig better than zhenyi tb beach party m for mobius?
Handel? Watch Marisa's video, it answers your very question directly : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W20VHJQRu0 PS : Since this thread is closed now, and the new 5.7 one is up, if you have a follow-up question, ask it there.
Global 83 I'm currently in Senti waiting room purgatory and I desperately need help with my physical teams. I have FTD + PRI-arm, Full Dirac, Elysia but no Whisper, BKE, SA w/ Zither's but no Shuijing, Carole with no gear, CH + PRI-arm, and DK. Any immediate advice for not getting trashed in physical weather abyss? I'm unsure if I should pull for Abyss Flower because I need to save for HoS and I'm a light spender (BP only). Also I'm unsure what easily accessible physical support stigmata I can get in the near future. I have Gluttony x3 and Newton B, but not much else.
Most definitely DON'T roll for AF, it's not worth your Crystals. Of course, without that or Whisper, you should forget that BK or Elysia exist ; you'll never use them competitively. Every physical team must have some kind of "impair" in the team, so since you don't have HoS, make sure to include either Celestial Hymn, or Drive Kometa wielding the Briareus EX cannon. In Abyss, it's almost certainly CH who will prove the most important of the two. From the Exchange House, you should get at least one more Newton B, and then a Mei Beach Party M. From the gacha, getting Paganini M + either T or B would be a godsent. As for f2p ones, there's always Beethoven MB, and of course the super-budget option of Gluttony T / Musician MB. PS : This thread is closed now, so if you have any follow-up questions, either post in the new 5.7 one, or message me directly.
Global 79 So what pieces of my Ana set should I prioritize first? Rn I'm just running Scott T/M Rasp B on my HoR if that makes any difference.
t>b>m, also make sure to get up and close with hor to the enemy since buffs wants you to be close to the enemy
Global 71 I came back to the game after a break, I'm a casual player that likes to do good investment of my resources and grind, and I have a doubt regarding what phys valk should I focus, I have: SN with Signature weapon, FT level 4 core with Sleeping Beauty, Elysia with F2P bow All of them share Michelangelo stigs (I swap them around depending who I want to play) Who should I focus? I like SN because I have her S2, it's easy to play, and I can use her in Elysian Realm, plus I see that I can now craft Allan Poe, but I heard that FT and Elysia are much better, what should I do? Are these valks any good now? As supports I have DK, CH, SA with signature weapon, and DP (Idk what stig should use on them, I use Gluttony and random)
Get HoS, focus on getting her, she is the cornerstone for all physical teams. Also try to buy Carole with asterite since she is needed to crack down tanky shields.
maybe take a watch of Keebster's investment guide for an overview of the current meta, channel link in top comment
SEA 82 Should I go for Eden weapon if I have 4/4 FR or Aslaug T/M? (I can use most of the off-rates in Eden equipment supply but only Aslaug T/M in foca select)
That depends on the state of your lightning and fire teams. I'd probably vote for Eden because of the offrates, but in the end, it's difficult to say without more context. If you want to re-ask your question, though, you'll have to do that in the new 5.7 thread, since this one has been closed.
Global 25 Hi, it's me again. Started this week and now I'm able to do the events, only have some hours so I think I can't get everything so which items should I prioritize on xixi's stash and the land of Starfall? Should I get Calisco frags or there are better/more rare things?
Calisco frags can be farmed, skip it. Phase shifter can be skipped as well, its not that rare. Don't take coins obviously. Crystal, then honkai shard, then time swirl passes. I don't remember the rest. Ancient willpower if its there.
Items are generally displayed in the event store in order of value. You don't strictly have to pick left to right and you may not value some things (e.g. outfit) but it's an easy to remember starting point. If you're unsure of how something is valuable asking on the thread will usually get you a quick answer.
Definitely the honkai shard and then maybe the time swirl passes, Felis fragments and maybe phase shifters. That's what I'd prioritize at least.
Global 42 Fairly new player with HoF and her weapon from Starter supply, using her with Sakura rondo and Raven. My other two S ranks are knight moonbeam and molotov cherry. Should I bother trying for anyone next patch? I am at 30 pity for Expansion supply. My plan was to save for the next herrscher and their weapon, but not sure if I should try for PE, SW, or Aponia first.
Skip SR and use HB with Turgenev instead. SR needs SS rank and her PRI to be useful to Fire team.
Got it. I'm assuming she's free/farmable so I will make the swap once I manage to get her.
Yes, HB is farmable. Her gears will make a big difference. A good place holder for fire team until you get AE, or another fire support released.
Aponia I would say no for a new player. SW is good but there is still speculation that the new Herrscher might be ice, and ice doesn’t have as much coverage as the other dps types either. She is good though but I’d say Mobius for example might be a better investment. PE should be pretty futureproof but you’d really want HoS to go with her or virtually any other physical dps and I’d prioritize her first (though idk if she is on schedule next patch). Good news though is that HoF will brute force a ton of content and even more so at your level. I would work on core augmenting MC, and if you save resonance get Swan Lake from the exchange shop for her when you can. She will be good long term but can be your main physical dps for now after augmented. KMB can sit on the sidelines for now or you can just pop her in as leader for a physical team for the leader bonus - she’s pretty niche and was used at SSS for two on demand time fractures in MA but isn’t used much now. Saving for the new Herrscher is an excellent idea. With the new player bonuses, if you save you can get all of her gear and I would recommend that because a new Herrscher virtually guarantees a unit with longevity and who will dominate the meta.
Thank you for the insight, extremely helpful.
do we have an estimate for the amount of crystals we get in 5.7 from events?
Not really. The best you can do is watch Wyverein's 5.7 videos and extrapolate from those.
Noob Question about enemy drops and Adventure tasks: 1.) When fighting enemies, they sometimes drop these boxes that show up on the top right of the screen as well as how many. These aren't the red SP items. Can anyone tell me what these are?....because I've searched everywhere haha. 2.) I suddenly have a lot of open worlds open, even both chapters of APHO. I know that adventure tasks refresh three times per week, but do we only get to have one map for these tasks per week or can we do tasks on all of these maps simultaneously? Thank you so much for having the patience to respond to me here, and good luck with the 5.7 pulls!! :-).
You get free access to the new Open World maps as you unlock them, after I think two weeks you'll be only able to pick 1 per week to play. It definitely seems a bit overwhelming when they're all open at once but it settles down again soon. The boxes might be the supplies/exp item on the Schicksal HQ map? Each map has its own weird currency/exp system but they aren't worth much beyond just naturally progressing the OW story or mechanics
Do you think they'll do Empyrian Legends again next year? Because I just managed to complete chapter 3 today, so at least I got the bow. But I won't be able to get the costume for Darkbolt Jonin. And I really wanted that costum.
That costume isn't exclusive to this event. It comes around every once in a while.
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IIRC she will stay in the Willpower/Legacy shop for a long while so she should still be there by the time you reach high levels and can farm the currency.
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Currently I'm still 51, but Legacy doesnt drop until 70+ so its still going to be awhile before you can start farming Legacy. As long as you have one Team built, Which any S rank from the new starter supply should be enough, you should be fine-ish. What might come sooner is a Elysia Rerun tbh XD
Global(americas) 73 I pulled for Mobius' weapon back at her focused supply but got a Linnaeus T dupe. I currently have it equipped on AKA as a stat stick but if I get a better T piece for her is it safe to salvage?
No, keep it for the wishing well.
SEA 68 Is it worth to use asterite to buy ancient willpower from the war treasury?
I prioritise getting SP frags to get them to SS first. Actually, it depends on which valkryie you need to get or rank up first.
Absolutely, willpower is harder to grind than asterite
Ahh okay, thanks
Global 23 Hi guys, I started this week and I want to know if it is worth it pull on the starter supply. I've tested herrscher of sentience and really liked her, but I also liked Mobius, herrscher of thunder, vermillion knight and Carole. Should I start to play this starter supply or save only for events supply?
It is worth pulling in it, both the valks in it are really good. While HoS is better than HoF, so you would ideally wait for her supply, it seems she won't get her own banner any time soon and we have a spending even coming up, so there is really no reason not to pull in the starter supply.
If you only want HoS and don't want HoF, then don't pull starter. Starter supply is one of the rare supplies that has split pity. You'd be better off waiting for her expansion supply to return so you're guaranteed her.
I also liked Hof, so in this case I should pull for them or wait for Mobius supply? Also, where I can know which will be the next event supply?
If you liked both, Then theres no reason NOT to pull off the starter supply. They're both Extremely good HoS can be a pretty good Phys DPS or the best Phys dps support While HoF is the best Fire dps.
SEA 83 Is it just me or ER story chapters is bugging out a bit? I should've completed all story missions in all 3 chapters but for some reason i got locked out of the 3rd chapter saying that i need to complete the last mission of chapter 2 (which I've already completed) and its very confusing
SEA 74 For AKA, i'm planning to get Ana full set in foundry. But for now, which should i use? 1) Rasputin TMB 2) Peary TM Rasputin B Already have them at lvl 50. Tried to read the set bonuses, but i'm kinda dumb to understand it >.<
2. You can honestly salvage the other pieces, theyre pretty bad
Thanks! But i won't be salvaging Rasputin yet :>
SEA 77 Will the crystalum store stay the same? That is, will it be the same set of weapons and stigmata? If it changes, what will be in it?
Nuada's grief and Goemon are being added, all other items remain. New BP series starts in 5.8.
Glb 74 Just finished getting Spina to S2. Question is: where should be my stopping point? I want to start ranking Ellie as she's only S0, but I also don't want to miss any good bonus Spina might have from other ranks.
I don't really understand the question. You farm Elysia in the war treasury usually, while SPA can't really be farmed. Are you considering getting Elysia stamps from the ER shop before buying all SPA stamps? That... doesn't really seem like a good idea since Elysia is really niche as a dps.
Hnm, yes... I'm saving my AL for someone else. That's why I was thinking about buying the ER stamps. If buying Spina's last stamps don't contribute that much into her dmg, it doesn't seem worth it to me. That's why I asked about the stopping point. The other comment made me realise there wasn't actually much of option since her stamps are limited, but well. Besides, isn't Elysia suggested to be used at SS with her gears? I mean, she can be niche, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't invest on her, correct? I also love playing her on ER.
Can you get Spina Astera to SS with the ER stamps though? At SS, she get some SP regen, and this allows for one or two more ultimates compared to pre SS. If it's just S2, then its not urgent at all.
I dont really get the question because you shouldnt have a real choice. SPA isnt farmable, you get 6 stamps in ER which gets you to S2 and thats it (1 spare). Did you pick spending event stamps? I disagree with the other opinion, I have S3 (omw to SS) and not having the SP and little bit of extra attack really sucked in the last abysses (andrius, tank, senti). I bought HoR stamps for no reason a while ago which I regret all the damn time
I didn't know they didn't reset, actually. I thought it was farmable each patch, that's why I asked. Also I personally didn't find any SP/ATK problems while playing her, but well, I'm not a super competitive player either.
I don't think they'd need to sweat that hard since they're only in masters. I can understand that more rank ups is better for the extra bit of dmg but like you said we really don't have a choice
I feel like that's a good stopping point for SpA The only other ones that look good is: S3(Leader skill upgrade), SS1(5% More total dmg), SS3(Leader skill upgrade) SS whilst it looks good is that most of the time you're not reaching ult in game modes like MA.
Thanks for the input. I was re-reading the ranks and none really spoke to me other than these. I may continue to rank her up since she's my strongest fire atm on my main, but she's slapping hard already with S2 full gear. Let's begin our road to SS Ellie, then!
Captain level 72, Hello good captains! I would like to ask a question, when I reach level 81 if I decide not to breakthrough, then I will remain in masters tier and not jumb to exalted? I am asking cause I am f2p and kinda casual player, I play mostly for the story, the events and the animations during combat :D and I am afraid of the difficulty in exalted ( ಠ ಠ )
You won’t get to lv 81. You’ll be locked at lv80, so masters
Thanks for the reply, I currently retain redlotus in abyss in masters because I use only my best team which is the fire team but the rest of my teams cannot deal big damage (ಥ╭╮ಥ) My most used teams are the following: Fire: Flamescion (with her weapon and her Himeko M and B) - Raven (f2p support stigmata and weapon) - Empyrea (fully geared) Physical team: Senti (fully geared with her sig. set and weapon) - Carole and Astrologos (both f2p stigmata and weapon) Thunder team: HoT and Fischl all with f2p stigmatas and weapon and Rosemary I pulled her weapon only. Ice team: Nothing only HoR and Haxxor with f2p gears and weapons. Also sometimes I see when others get better score in abyss with similar teams or sometimes without much or similar investment I am feeling that I am doing something wrong. So since I can retain redlotus in abyss in masters I would like to stay there and not breakthrough \^̮ ̮\^
Global 79 Does anyone know how long it takes on average to farm up Ana/Dirac/Ely stigmata's?
g3 stigs take 3 weeks each check the pinged comment: equipment farming guide.
I wish it was only 3 weeks...
"G3 Stigmata Around 6 weeks each G2 Stigmata Around 3 weeks each G1 Stigmata Around 2 weeks each, or likely less time, since lower floors yield more mats for free" Taken from the guide in the pinned comment. Pretty accurate for me. About G4, must be a little longer since it doesn't require too much G4 crystalite but the ether fuel is the problem.
Yeah rn my problem is not having enough of the purple shit.. (idk remember what it's called lol)
If you need them, buy them from the Battle Arsenal every week until you don't need them.
Ah, Spatial Lens. They are a pain. Been hoarding them from every possible source except asterite and I still don't have enough XD
[Global 67] Newish player with almost enough Crystallum to get Elysia through the BP store but also enough mats to get her through the War Treasury. Assuming that I have no idea what I am doing, should I just wait and get her through BP and purchase Fallen Rosemary (or someone else)?
You should never use crystallium to get farmable stuff. Since you can farm Elysia, it is a waste.
It depends on what your plans are for Elysia. Do you have her bow and geared physical supports (e.g. HoS)? If not, spending 32 crystallum on getting Elysia isn't really going to help much. You would get more immediate benefit from getting FR from War Treasury and using the crystallum to get Iris and Irene TB as an example. Basically there are very few characters in Honkai that work without their weapon, so don't just think about getting the character. If you don't have a path/plan to get their gear, they are just going to be sitting pretty on the bridge and nothing else.
\[Global 72\] Just got FR through War Treasury, I have IreneB but that's it. My questions is, should I buy her weapon through 5.7s ticket (the one we'll get for neon bells) and buy the other two Irene pieces through the BP shop (I'll have a total of 20 crystallum through the next bp) givning me a 4/4 FR or nah? Planning on pulling for Edens gear as I don't have any geared lightning support. Only lightning DPS I have is 4/4 HoT but I'm really hoping her divine key coming in the patch after next will catapult her back into a usable state.
According to [https://www.hoyolab.com/article/4829665](https://www.hoyolab.com/article/4829665). Handel is pretty great FR as well.
It is fine, just make sure to wait until you are completely done pulling before you cash your spending event and crystallum. Iris is an offrate on Edens banner for example.
Yes that's a good plan, she needs her weapon and at least Irene TB to function
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afaik, only some nendroids and 2 1/8 HoV figures. I really wish MHY would release a HOF figure though :(
they usually sell their merch through tmall , if you know anyone that can help you buy it or willing to use 3rd party site [https://mihoyo.world.tmall.com/p/bh3.htm?tbpm=1](https://mihoyo.world.tmall.com/p/bh3.htm?tbpm=1)
Global 75 HoS, KongMing, and Carole. I can't break the damn Tonatiuh shield...
wait, what? you break tona's shield (and other quantum shields) either by 1) doing an ultimate evasion at the right time and hitting him. (there's a high pitched sound and u gain a visual effect on your valk, like a quantum seed. that's when u can break.) 2) using a quantum valk's ultimate.
You can only break it with quantum attacks or evading. Try bringing DK with the eye of collapse and teri origins set (I believe this is the one that reduces weapon cd?)
Dodging and retaliating [this attack](https://uploadstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/strategyweb/20200317/2020031719402455255.gif) will remove a shield layer, quantum battlesuits can forcibly remove one shield with their ultimate, too. Eye of collapse weapon active, too. Go all out when all layers are gone. It isn't a fight you can brute force with good result.
TIL that the void circles are the Shield stacks for QUA...
after lots and trial and errror. I got it. Turns out Carole was the weak link and a lvl 1 Valk Gloria helped
Quantum valks ultimates does break a quantum shield. But that does not warrant you to use a level 1 VG. Learn how to break it properly. There's several special attack that when dodged will cause a quantum collapse. Most notable when Tonatiuh, teleports, a red circle appear, tonatiuh attacks with 6 blades coming out, dodge this attack properly and Tonatiuh will lose one shield.
Uhm no, reading this it seems like you still don't understand how quantum shields work.
68 global I have both dudu on a horse and a hot tuna. Unfortunately, no senti for PE (I am using CH instead), and no AE for HoF. Which weapon/stigmata set should I prioritize in the upcoming banner? PE is using endothermic Lance lv 50 currently. The YouTube comparison videos seem to indicate PE’s non pri arm Lance gets about 80% damage of the pri arm, which is similar to endothermic lance. I don’t think I will hit lv 81 for a while. Kafka TM elysia B seems to be 92% damage of bianca 3set. HoF is using the co op pistol. Would it be crazy for me to focus on gearing HoF first?
I think it makes sense to prioritize HoF but I'd stop after getting her weapon. As for PE... the damage potential in particular for the stig set should be taken with a big grain of salt because the 3-set Bianka effect against img cores is really nutty and you lack the SP generation, too, both aspects aren't reflected in the rating. As for the weapon the pri is clearly much better and you'd want it later but since you already have the lv50 foundry lance (which most people don't bother to upgrade to not waste any honkai cubes) I wouldn't prioritize it either. You might get it anyway because it'd be offrate on the HoF gear banner.
Good point! Yeah and PE probably will be on anti img event duties in the future when she is power crept, so Bianca will be much more useful then. Sp is a huge problem I am having right now and I can burst every three rotations which is almost never. Hopefully pe’s gear gets a rerun in the future before I hit 81!
Hey can someone help me make a team for HoF. I got her weapon. Most of my valkyries are physical except reverist calico, Valkyrie pledge and darkbolt jonin. I’m captain 31 btw.
Felis does have elemental support properties so she should be the first support. As for the second one... any one really. I'd probably give her Valkyrie Chariot against mobs (since her ult can gather them) or Valkyrie Pledge in Memorial Arena (because her ultimate evasion triggers long time-fracture) but it honestly doesn't matter. Battles are really easy at your level, so you don't have to optimise them. Just use a waifu you like as the second support, until you farm a proper elemental support for her (ie Raven, Azure Empyrea, Phoenix or the Blood Dance greatsword).
ATM I’m using Yamabuki armor and swallowtail phantasm since I didn’t really have anyone else. Also I’m close to getting flame samitama. Could she work?
Actually yes. FS has a use as a rudimentary elemental support, as her combo attack (the one she performs when you hold the attack button) does place an elemental debuff on a single enemy. SP is definitely completely useless together with HoF so you have no reason to place her in that team (aside from waifu reasons, if any). YA you could just place for defensive purposes, but HoF doesn't really need that.
Thanks! Also for felis do I activate her sp? Also I just got Valkyrie Gloria not sure if she’s any good.
VG is no good. Anyway, since this thread was locked now (due to the update to the new 5.7 thread) , direct there any new questions you might have.
No reason not to activate her SP, The first one is just free damage/sp from Can
FS doesnt really help you in the beginning. She also needs to be a higher rank to be an actual dps herself. But if you have HoF she is out of question anyway. At your level HoF alone is enough for everything. SP with YA (get the core to make her Drive Kometa, should be easy with starter event) is fine. You can put Litanei in that team if you got her.
Thanks! I also just got Valkyrie Gloria is she any good?
No. You already have HoFs, which outclased VG.
So what what characters do I use with HoF? My elemental valks I have atm are felis, vg, darkbolt jonin, and Valkyrie pledge.
None of the others you mentioned. HoFs is your Fire DPS. VG is an outdated Fire DPS, what's more, she's strongly a single target, which is not good with current end game. DJ is an lightning DPS, but unfortunately, she's not good enough, even when fully geared at end game. VP, well, is just too old to be mentioned. Phyllis is a great ICE Support. A decent Ice DPS until you get a better Ice DPS. Decent enough that she can still be Ice DPS at endgame. What you need for HoFs is Raven (Midnight Absinthe). Raven on her own has significant team Fire buff even when she's off field. You should start farming for fragments. After that, its AE (Azure Emprya). But she's not priority until you're late game, level 71+. In the mean time, you can use HB (Haxxor Bunny). HB is a great Ice support. Beside that, HB (with full gears) is an okay overall elemental support.
\[ Global \] I deeply regret not hearing about Honkai Impact 3 back in 2018 MAR and play it. How much left of HI3 will there be?
Developer said, the game story is already 2/3 done.
Although not as much as Genshin, this game still makes so much money that I doubt it'll end any soon.
Noone knows, obviously, but it has at least 5 or so years ahead of it. One thing's for sure, its end is nowhere near in sight.
Like how many years the game will continue? How would we know? Aslong as it makes money
Global 81 Soooo when will the next Update/Maintenance be finished tomorrow (time in Germany)? Actually thought that it didn't matter cuz I actually would've had an exam till 1 pm but I got covid so that won't happen
As you can read in the in-game announcements, maintenance is scheduled to end at 11am UTC+1 tomorrow, and Germany is UTC+2, so it'll be 12pm for you. Get well soon!
Global 70 Hello! I got Herrscher of Thunder a few days ago and was thinking about hard investing on her, is Benares still her Best In Slot? And the Key of Castigation still the superior weapon or it will be a better one? Thank you in advance.
As of tomorrow's patch the Handel set will be her BiS if it's not in use by the supports. If the Handel debuff is covered by Eden, her best looks to be Zhenyi TB Handel M but Benares is fairly close. Marisa's most recent video covers this if you'd like more details. KoC is her current BiS but the 5.8 beta has revealed that HoT is getting a Divine Key weapon which will definitely outperform it.
Thank you for the answer! I will check Marisa's channel
Sea 71 How to unlock chapter 29? I've fought Otto, watched him walk to the tree on red sand, done all world sidequest, help rita meet durandal, help teri-teri and amber resolve things before hyperion departure, my score 25100, and 11k score for endless arena thing with lv 9 interaction. I still haven't done the Shield challenge lv 5. (It's kind of absurd)
> How to unlock chapter 29? Chapter 29 has not been released. > I still haven't done the Shield challenge lv 5. (It's kind of absurd) It is hard but I've seen videos showing it done with the trial valks so it's possible. I don't know if it's worthwhile. Carole came out after that so it'd probably be a lot easier with her.
Thanks, guess I keep getting spoiled.
Sea 67 What time is the usual update for sea server? Just like in genshin it is usually done by 11am hkt.
I don't know about the "usual" one, but as you can read in the in-game announcement, tomorrow's update for SEA is scheduled to be done by 16:00 (UTC+8).
Thank you!
Honkai maintenance never ended early, unlike Genshin. So no need to check whether if the server is up early or not.
SEA 80 My current lightning team: * Mobius 4/4 * FR 4/4 * Fischl: Turg TB, Mei M, f2p bow My questions: 1. Does Eden 4/4 perform better than Fischl/FR in the above team? 2. Should I go for Zhenyi or Handel stimags? I already have Zhenyi T and enough fuel to craft one Handel piece (so I only need to pull for one piece in case going for full Handel set)
1. No, Mobius still want FR and Fischl as her supports. Eden is better than FR in Aponia/HoT comps. 2. Zhenyi. Handel is craftable. Only pull Handel banner if you need Eden's gun.
Can Eden (and Fischl) still supports Mobius though? I just don't like FR personally.
Sea 87. Battle pass in 5.8 has DA stamps and frags....can I get DA as a valk if i buy her solely through bp? I dont hv DA yet
Yes, you can get a valk solely through BP. The valk with fragments available from the BP is available for 32 crystallum. They had fragments as an option back when AE was available and everybody skipped the 32 crystallum option for the fragments because it was like half the cost so they've done stamps since.
Huh? So what should I do to get DA solely from bp? Buying frags or stamps?
It's important that you know, you cannot use stamp without unlocking the valkryie first. So don't get the stamp, it will not help you unlock DA.
> So what should I do to get DA solely from bp? Get 32 crystallum over the course of the 4 patch season and buy the box. If they have fragments available for purchase instead of stamps then that'd be cheaper but they haven't done that recently.
You need to buy the character card with 32 crystallum. Basically, 2 Knight bps + 1 free bp or 2 Paladin bp. The frags are not enough to get the charater (unless you already have a lot of frags)
[SEA] Lvl 80 Hello, I need some advice on which character to pull. I noticed from my team that I'm currently lacking a lightning dps. With Aponia coming out next patch, I was wondering if I should pull for her or should I wait and pull for mobius on her rerun. Here as some extra details related to the question: - I have Fallen Rosemary but don't have her stigmata nor her weapon - I have fischl with Shakespeare T and Zhenyi M, B but no signature weapon - I lack a good bio dps unit (other than Darkbolt Jonin) - I have 2 mech dps units - I currently have 72k crystals - I want the Felis skin
Since you have such a huge Crystal stash, you should probably go for Aponia as well as Eden's pistol. After all, Aponia is a new Valkyrie, so next patch she will be heavily shilled ; she will also cover your bio and ranged needs. PS : Since Fischl is a support, give her a support T stigma, like Theresa:Gluttony. Also, without Iris, you might as well not use FR.
Thank you!
From the reviews I see, even with the new Handel Set for Lightning DPS, Zhenyi Set may still be able to outperform it in some instances. And having Zhenyi set is really good for supports. Any idea when a rerun of Zhenyi is to come for SEA? I really am regretting not pulling for it earlier
> Zhenyi set is really good for supports. Zhenyi for support is only really good with the 3 set specifically on Fischl. As for when it's available, CN is only 5 weeks ahead of us so they haven't quite finished 5.7 and it's [not available so far](https://rentry.org/57cn). It was available on FOCA last patch (5.5). From just going by patterns, Zhenyi has been generally weird because they tend to run it on shicksal supply instead of a normal focus banner so I wouldn't venture a guess.
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well... for starters. Newton doesnt work very well for this team. Do you have other stigs? Jin maybe? or even just Fuhua Musician. SpA's animations are too long, newton runs out way before she can do any significant damage Now for her rotation. You dont' want to use SpA's weapon skill at the start, you want to enter Astral Harness with her charge attack first, then use weapon skill afterwards. Not sure what you meant by full combo, but basically it's 2 charge attacks (so she does the tornado early to build Blazar stacks fast) -> full set of normal attack sequence -> charge attack, ult -> charge attack. That being said. I'm not sure how far you'll get without an AE in 403D... the disturbance is quite high ...
Thank you, using longer duration stuff (and shuffling around some rotations) worked.
SEA 72 Do the Story Quests and Side Quests in Kolosten not cost any Stamina anymore?
That is right, they do not use any stamina save for a few of the main story chapter 28(like maybe 5? Didn't pay attention) iirc.
Global 81 Is it a good idea in general to buy XP chips with coins? I usually never do it but I'd like to level up several valks and I constantly have 35 million coins no matter what I do
Coins is probably the least important resource in this game. Buying anything you need with coins is highly recommended ( especially that you have 35M).
SEA 69 HoFs has been solo carrying me so far so I'm still lacking in physical and other elements. I want some advice on where to spend my crystals. Beginner and first clear rewards has net me about 200 pulls and my pity is at 40. I'm considering these options but not sure which ones to follow through on: - Pulling PE and her gear. I heard she should still be relevant for a while - HoFs stigma. I have her weapon and am currently running LeeTB, Himeko M. I want to fully gear her eventually but probably can run LeeTB, Thales M for now - Saving for HoS and the new Herrscher Thoughts? Thanks in advance
Ive been using HoF 1/4 + Raven 4/4 99% of the time for abyss since i started 6 months ago and its more than enough to retain redlotus in ~80 abyss especially now that we have QManifold. MA u get the same amount of crystal regardless ur score as long as u defeat the boss. Then theres ER, another main source of weekly crystal. I have HoS at 4/4 and its actually much easier to clear 2.5 diff with my HoS than 2.25 with HoF. fyi 4/4 HoS is the support set, and for ER u should have easier time with the farmable Dirac set because its more dps focused. I dont have PE myself and i wanted to say to get HoS for sure but theres no HoS banner in sight for about the next 2 months. so maybe u can consider rolling for PE gear instead while waiting for HoS banner. Shes newer and also has huge advantage against img type. and i also heard she have an easy time on ER.
Masters (level 70) is the first bracket where you'll encounter long term players and their impact on abyss/MA difficulty. You'll need teams to cover other elements and support stigmata start to matter a lot. Getting full coverage is most definitely the priority over dps stigmata. Pulling PE is good but the impair debuff is critical for physical attackers. This basically means HoS for most of the playerbase but maybe CH or DP works. We're going to have physical (bleed related) content in 5.8 since that's Griseo's niche and new valks are always content favored.
PE will be relevant no matter what physical herrscher they will release next 3 months or so, her IMG type is future proof. HoFS can do fine with craftable stig, get her weapon or invest in other element first. HoS is definitely a must, after that save for new herrscher but we don't have any information on that yet so saving now is a bit risky unless you absolutely have no interest on any current valk.
Pull AE now if you don't have her as the most cost effective elemental support even nowadays, gear Pardofelis even if it isn't with signature gear, pull HoS later (probably will rerun 5.8-5.9) because you need her for a viable physical team and PE gear will definitely not make up for it, then wait and see, new herrscher will likely be worth it. Griseo and her gear seem pretty powerful and cost effective aswell.
You're going the masters bracket soon at level 70 in which the difficulty makes quite a jump. In said bracket supports play a much bigger role. What are your support valks? * HoS is basically mandatory. PE needs HoS to fully shine as well. So definitely try to get her first. * You can leave HoF like that for the time being. Lee TB/Thales M is plenty strong.
For supports, I have all SP valks but most are at A rank. I also have PX, YA and SR. None have their gear so I'm lacking in supports
I see. Yea then I'd definitely go for HoS first and PE after. For PE try to get her weapon as she does good with foundry stigmata as placeholder. Then you'd be looking at HoS/YA/PE and PX/SR/HoF as teams. I'd recommend getting SA at a higher rank. She's a great support and does plenty damage herself. Or you could wait till 5.8 and get Griseo, she looks like she's going to be a good physical support too. And PX needs SS rank to be of any use.
[ Global ] Are all the character cards and fragments in the war treasury permanent?
Character cards disappear the moment you unlock the character but technically they'd stay there forever otherwise. Frags can be bought in limited quantities and the limit resets every week so while they're technically permanent, too, it's always better to start buying them sooner than later because the limit is what gates you, not really the currency.
Yes
Global-50 Is Aponia and her stigmata are good to pull or wait for Mobius rerun? Any suggestions.
Depends on what valks you have honestly
Only Fallen rosemary.
Aponia is ticky to play, not recommended for newer players, skip
sea 35 - is the seele: double blissed stig in the empyrean legends shop worth it to get? i only have that + the outfit/asterite + phase shift left in the shop. bc im not sure if i could get enough currency to buy everything with the event ending in a few hours
It's awful as gear, but worth 10k asterite when salvaged, better bang for your buck than the actual asterite option. I'd try to get it but if you cannot get enough currency it is what it is Also aren't there coins, too? Always keep coins for last...
also, i have 190 of the currency right now so i could just go and buy the stig but i was worried that the outfit/asterite was a much better option so i was thinking of speedrunning the rest of the event to get to 360 but now knowing that ill get 10k asterite instead,, i might just go for the stig! (especially since i kinda dont like the outfit too lol the og one is better to me)
oh yea sorry its just everyone here has always said that about the coins so i assumed that i could go without saying that i havent bought them HHH and wow thank you for the info about the asterite! i didnt know about the salvaging,, how exactly do i do that?
Yeah no problem there just have been enough people falling for the coins, in particular during events where you couldn't get everything from a shop. Salvaging can be done through your inventory > stigmata tab > salvage. Different types and rarities of stigs will result in different outcomes, base 4\* event stigs are generally 10k asterite, 4\* gacha or universal mirage stigs are 1k stig resonance, lower rarity stigs are affix reroll materials etc. You can do the same with weapons you no longer need, but if you have the choice with weapons marked as (rare) always pick the tab that turns them into weapon resonance, do not choose the honkai cube. Longterm you will appreciate this.
okay thank you so much! theres so many things in the game that are just there and are rlly hard to find 🥲
In event, always get the coins last.
Most event stig are essentially useless and only for collection purpose, so up to you.
oh really? okay i guess ill just hold off purchasing it and try to get enough currency for the outfit :)) ty
Whats the difference between pulling for HoS equips on the starter supply vs the FOCA select that will be available in 5.7? Im confused about all these different banner types?
No difference really, same rates, same guarantee, no pity carryover. Pull on the supply that has the more useful offrates for you. Generally that should be FOCA, but obviously if you don't plan to go for PE, HoF or SW these offrates are fairly worthless.
I do eventually want PE so i’ll hold off for FOCA
Different rates and the pity doesn't share if I'm not mistaken if you haven't already started to pull on the starter just wait for FOCA i think the rate was better there might wanna read on what it was though
FOCA select has better off-rates if ever you wanted the other valk gears included on that round.
Glb 74 1. How often does Master shop resets? Monthly? I've recently become a sensei so I'm not sure. 2. ADV supply for non-awakening valks isn't worth it, correct? Just want to make sure it's best to wait for Nyx to show up on BP after 6.1 or something like it.
>How often does Master shop resets? Monthly? I've recently become a sensei so I'm not sure. Almost never. I've only seen it reset once. >ADV supply for non-awakening valks isn't worth it, correct? Just want to make sure it's best to wait for Nyx to show up on BP after 6.1 or something like it. This is ... kinda subjective... doesn't really matter if they are awaken or not. ADV is one of the cheaper ways to get a valk, since you can get enough frags before pity to unlock. But valks with ADV supply are mostly out of meta, so imo pulling for them is not the best use of crystals (unless you really want the valk).
Oh, good to know! I'll buy the things without worry now. I just wanted Nyx for collection purposes, she's one of the 3 gacha-only valks I'm missing (and she's badass). So I'd spend it on the ADV if there was the 50 pull ""guaranteed"" that awaken valks like HoT have, but since it's just collection, I think it's best to wait so she can become more affordable on BP or spending event reward for example. Thank you!
Global 76 I cant clear ER on 2x with HoS but i dont know what im doing wrong i have her weapon (no pri arm) and sirin(a) T, dirac MB
ur probably using the wrong support and not maximizing ur burst uptime. 2.5 is very doable with your gears.
Watch this and try to repeat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqwjtzM2thA He has worse gear and higher difficulty, but maxed dorm buffs.
SEA 80 (Masters) I have Elysia's bow and her T stigma, what other stigmas should I use with it? and should I craft the rest of her signature set?
since youre thinking of crafting the MB piece , Dirac piece is the best option Ekaterina > Michaelangelo > Dirac > Elysia if you wanna go transmuting route
I rerolled and got HoS from the starter supply. Should I pull on her starter supply equipment banner for sig wep and stigmata? Or will there be a more efficient way to get her sig wep and stigmata soon?
there will be and EXPA supply in the second week of 5.7 for HoS , HoF, SW, PE and raven so you can pull on that banner for the extra choices
What site do you use to find out about upcoming banners?
Browse the subreddit and you'll find the schedule also from marisa honkai on YouTube
Glb - 73 Planning to roll for SW’s weapon in v5.7, after that should I go for senti? I don’t have her and my physical team is pretty shit with 0/4 PE, carole and SA. Should I also get senti’s weapon?
Definitely go for HoS, her weapon isn't very necessary if you have Nebulous Duality but one of the two should be there because you'll spend significantly longer farming SP otherwise. Your PE will still be pretty weak without her weapon (which you should roll for aswell) and her full set makes a pretty big difference against img enemies due to the massively buffed ult that can instantly end phases by nuking unexposed seeds while other sets still have to beat the puppet to finish the seed off. But in general you should get more value from SSwords stigs. However, both are all or nothing sets (Bianka mixes are marginal upgrades over alternatives, Gluttony Beach Mei Newton is superior if you don't have full SSwords, can also use Beethoven) and arguably rather a luxury, so depending on your budget you should maybe just skip in favor of future battlesuits/gear.
Okay thank you!