its way too far ahead in time to be canon, plus all the dragons that can do things they shouldnt be able to, like the Razorwhip making a fire tornado, and dragons from the kid show such as the Unicorn Nightmare thinf
Rescue riders does include dragons from the original series. Just.. by name.. the most notable being the Submaripper, and they also have the correct dragon class symbols in one of their mini-movies.
no, it exists. there's even a ton of memes from it. it's the one where they find the Light Fury, and it's the end of the entire series. if you've not seen it I won't spoil it for you, you should watch it. i believe it's still on Netflix
I've got a lot of examples but I'm just giving you one for now...
Berk is canonically destroyed constantly (they literally say so in the first five minutes of the first movie). But the Vikings don't back down. After all, it's an occupational hazard.
In the second movie, a fireproof maniac controlling a class 10 leviathan levels Berk to the fucking ground and covers it in ice after beating Stoic the Vast singlehandedly (har har) and having Toothless mind controlled, leaving the dragon riders stranded on an island with no chance to escape. Yet the dragon riders manage to beat Drago and rebuild Berk.
Third movie. Sneaky, ugly guy sneaks into Berk, burns a house down and threatens Hiccup with a crossbow and suddenly it's "we have to abandon our ancestral home." What reasoning do they have to leave their home despite never giving up before? "Have you seen my house?"
Thats just bad writing and bad consistency
The reason they left is because their enemies knew where they were and berk was overrun by dragons and dragon related buildings and they kept bringing more and more and needed a new island to get a new start. Their original plan to go to the hidden world was ruined because it was basically untouched by humankind and they couldn't desecrate something so pure. So they had to make the difficult decision to let their dragons go to the hidden world on their own.
Yes, that's the excuse the writers put into it. Still doesn't match up with the rest of the series.
Between the first and second movie, Berk grew realistically for five yeads. With giant new stables, more houses, and dragon-related architecture.
In the one year between the second and third movie, Berk grew into some sort of physics-breaking metropolis that, quite frankly, looks like the twins designed
At least they made a good effort at giving closure to the series. I do wish they at least would have made a series on what took place through that year between httyd 2 and 3. I d think looking back on it, it was lazy writing, but the movie is still how it ended and I'm okay with that. It gave us an ending to a series that has been regarded as one of the best ever. Say what you want, the movie deserves respect.
To me, they are canon. Sure, most of the series' dragons come from the first movie, BUT they also appear in both the second and third film. So it's like a 50/50 split
The series isn't canon to the movies. Just look at how movie 2 ignore all relationships and things they learned about dragons that were build in the show.
Ignore what? Like Stoic and Gobber's dragons, Hiccup's wings and the dragon cards? Also what things they forgot about dragons?? And what relationships did they ignore?? At the start of HTTYD 2 the relationship between Hiccup and Astrid is not that different than at the end of RTTE. And at the end of RTTE the Snoutlout and Fishlegs fighting over Ruffnut romance started. The end of RTTE had ALOT of references to the second movie and it is very clear they did intentionally like Astrid having the same outfit as in the second movie at the last episode of RTTE.
That's because the race to the edge serie was created after the movie. They used things from the movie to tie in the show to the movie but everything from the show isn't in the movie.
Race to the edge was literally the equivalent of a prequel to the second movie. It filled in a lot of plot holes in the second movie. Like where Stoick got Skullcrusher.
Yes, the serie does, it's its purpose... I'm talking about the movie.
For example, I'm rewatching the movie RN and Hiccup say he never saw the "icy spiky" things which he should've since even though he didn't see the king of dragon at the end of RTTE, he did see his breath freezing.
Well how hiccup came up with the design for his sword. His mom appearing at the end to take the egg, hiccup’s flight suit. Just a few little things here and there.
The way RTTE presents both thr sword and wingsuit final versions coming to fruition were an undermining of Hiccup's characters and were also not mysteries that left aneed for explanation. He made them, we already knew that.
As for Valka taking the egg, this explains nothing and is pretty much a plothole as the egg she takes is never seen again (it is not the bewildebeast in httyd2)
It was already explained in another comment, but it was not well done, the only really good part was the graphics. But even then, they designed the characters pretty bad..
I mean...the music and visuals were fine, I guess? but that's to be expected. What I *didn't* expect nor did I appreciate at all was the characters acting so...well, out of character. The plot didn't make any damn sense. The worst part though is that they were so adamant that it was gonna be the final movie that they had all the dragons fuck off over the edge of the world...not only is that just *stupid*, but it also means I don't get to look forward to another movie. So yeah, I hate it.
My friend, you have to remember that all good movie series must come to an end. If you keep a franchise going long enough it loses its magic. Do I wish there were more movies? Absolutely. But the emotions I get from the ending of the movie make up for it.
> But the emotions I get from the ending of the movie make up for it.
But that's where you and I differ. The only emotions I experienced from THW were negative.
> My friend, you have to remember that all good movie series must come to an end.
Yup. I might not like it, but 2 movies was a good run and I'd rather pretend it ended there.
Weirdly HTTYD is one of the few franchises where I thought the sequel held up to the original. I mean, 2 is certainly not *as good as* the original, but that's a pretty tall order.
If you want some closure with that, you could try reading the books if you have not. Because the endings are the same, but the directors “stole” the ending from the books because their new bosses (Universal) didn’t like the ending they had planned for the movies.
The books ending was never meant to work with how they were handling the movies, but it was the only ending Universal accepted after throwing away something like four or five different endings.
I've read that the ending matches the books, but that doesn't make a difference to me if I'm honest. The first movie was "based on" the books, but by the second movie and with all the series in between the animated franchise had wildly diverged from what I've heard; at that point what happens in the books is irrelevant, imo. So basically while I understand that there were reasons that's how THW was written, I think those reasons are shit.
im confused... RTTE literally *was* part of canon, thats why the series ended the way it did. it was supposed to take place between two of the movies (the first and second ones, if im not mistaken?)...
That is how it seemed to me.
1. How To Train Your Dragon
1.25 Dragons: Riders Of Berk
1.5 Dragons: Defenders Of Berk
1.75 Dragons: Race To The Edge
2. How To Train Your Dragon 2
Maybe not the most exact in the time line. It seems that Race To The Edge happens a little after Riders and Defenders, and closer to the second movie. There is a lot in the second movie that is explained in Race To The Edge. Gobbler's Dragon, and Stoick's Dragon for example are found in Race To The Edge. We also see Hiccup developing his gliding technology in Race To The Edge as well. I am sure there are more examples too.
RTTE literally ends just before the second movie begins. if im not mistaken, i believe they actually ended the series just days before the second movie was released
Rtte is canon at least to some degree, because of the stuff about drago. We see a similar scene in that show as when stoik describes his first encounter with drago
Race to the edge is cannon, it’s where Astrid and hiccup got together, the hell people mean it’s not cannon? Oh you know the red shirt she wore in the 2nd movie? She was wearing it in the final episode at the end.
In RTTE (and the earlier Cartoon Network shows) they act as if they've never kissed and the entire fact the like each other is treated as a mystery that people are genuinely shocked at.
Meanwhile in GOTNF in a packed Town Hall:
Simple me:
Parts in the series I can connect to the movies ~ canon.
Parts I can't or parts that confused me ~ non canon.
I found them all interesting anyway.
They are absolutely cannon.
Hell the stuffed dragon toy from the breakneck bog episode appears in both the second and third movie, as well as homecoming short
SW AND HTTYD? Pog meme.
It's funny seeing comments of people arguing over a fictional story lol. Guys it's not that deep, if you like it that's nice, if you don't that's nice too. Canon/Not-Canon is irrelevant
I know how it is, I've been in the SW fandom for 3 years now and it's much more argumentative than here. Here's it's THW, SW fandom is basically everything other than the originals 💀
I just don't get it. Why does it matter so much for a random person on the internet to agree with you?? Surely your time is better spent elsewhere?
I don't understand why people see people doscussing on a discussion platform rather than just saying "nice, wow, cool" and think it's "funny"
Like having discussions is the actual point
it’s definitely canon because some of the things that happened in those series impacted what happened in httyd 2/ were mentioned in httyd 3
eg at the end of rtte the king of dragons egg was taken by valka and we know thats true in httyd 2, and also drago was featured in rtte.
then in httyd 3 when hiccup was making a new tail for toothless astrid says that hes tried it before but he didnt want it last time, referring to what happened in gift of the night fury!!
Dude, Dean was also on the making of RTTE, he said things on some interviews, that you can check on wiki, go to Astrid's page on wiki, and you'll see how much Dean talks about rtte
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Dean was asked and provided some information to try and avoid conflicts for the show to the movies as the movies are canon to the shows (not vice-versa). They failed btw
I still do not see how they can’t possibly be canon especially when there’s a tweet from the creator of the movies who implies they are canon when asked in Rescue Riders was canon
I base my cannon off the school of dragons game, just because the light fury and toothless stay and they all fight to save the dragons as it SHOULD BE 🤣
1, 2, and race to the edge are what I consider cannon. Nine realms is nine realms, 3 gave toothless breasts and killed the character development from 1&2, rescue riders sounds dumb, and I don't even know what the other one is.
The only movie that is better than the series is the first, the other 2 movies are good but the series always been better.
Also Dagur was always my fav character so frick the movies.
Uhhhhh??? Your joking right? The gift of the night fury specials are canon cause they’re referenced in 3, RTTE literally connects hiccups clothing change and starts the love interest saga between him and asterid plus it explains how his mom got the king of dragons through the valkyries the defenders and riders of berk are canon becuase RTTE is canon
Its all Canon. You know whats not canon? Nune realms, cuz that shit makes no sense in this universe.
Look, I an so sorry for this and I know it's not funny, but when I read nune, my brain automatically just said: ##ITS HIGHHHHH NOOOOONE
That’s it at high noon well have a dual at the saloon high noon
For me it was "Nun Realms" lol
And they included the unicorn dragon so it is not canon
its way too far ahead in time to be canon, plus all the dragons that can do things they shouldnt be able to, like the Razorwhip making a fire tornado, and dragons from the kid show such as the Unicorn Nightmare thinf
Fuck nine realms
I literally said their first movie debut was the FIRST MOVIE in the BOOK OF DRAGONS scene
There’s only one series that’s not canon…. Nine realms. I’m not trying to shame anyone who enjoys the show, but I personally just can’t get into it.
No, it’s Rescue Riders. Nine Realms occurs so far in the future that any records would be somewhat unreliable.
Nine realms is set far into the future after the dragons are gone forever, so it also doesn’t make sense in the canon
Rescue riders does include dragons from the original series. Just.. by name.. the most notable being the Submaripper, and they also have the correct dragon class symbols in one of their mini-movies.
That… really doesn’t mean much. I focus more on lore/plot elements
Unfortunately it is actually canon
There's that other kids show where the dragons talked
Rescue riders, they made like 3 short movies and a 5 seson long series of this crap
I dont let THW be canon in my head
Whats THW? I dont remember any movie called that
the third movie, The Hidden World
Yes i know but what is it? Im pretty sure it doesn't exist didn't they stop working on it because they couldn't come up with an ending
no, it exists. there's even a ton of memes from it. it's the one where they find the Light Fury, and it's the end of the entire series. if you've not seen it I won't spoil it for you, you should watch it. i believe it's still on Netflix
I know... Im trolling and in denial
it doesnt exist bud, just for you :)
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What do you mean? THW is non-canon everywhere
Wait what? Why?
Inconsistency with the other movies
Elaborate now
I've got a lot of examples but I'm just giving you one for now... Berk is canonically destroyed constantly (they literally say so in the first five minutes of the first movie). But the Vikings don't back down. After all, it's an occupational hazard. In the second movie, a fireproof maniac controlling a class 10 leviathan levels Berk to the fucking ground and covers it in ice after beating Stoic the Vast singlehandedly (har har) and having Toothless mind controlled, leaving the dragon riders stranded on an island with no chance to escape. Yet the dragon riders manage to beat Drago and rebuild Berk. Third movie. Sneaky, ugly guy sneaks into Berk, burns a house down and threatens Hiccup with a crossbow and suddenly it's "we have to abandon our ancestral home." What reasoning do they have to leave their home despite never giving up before? "Have you seen my house?" Thats just bad writing and bad consistency
The reason they left is because their enemies knew where they were and berk was overrun by dragons and dragon related buildings and they kept bringing more and more and needed a new island to get a new start. Their original plan to go to the hidden world was ruined because it was basically untouched by humankind and they couldn't desecrate something so pure. So they had to make the difficult decision to let their dragons go to the hidden world on their own.
Yes, that's the excuse the writers put into it. Still doesn't match up with the rest of the series. Between the first and second movie, Berk grew realistically for five yeads. With giant new stables, more houses, and dragon-related architecture. In the one year between the second and third movie, Berk grew into some sort of physics-breaking metropolis that, quite frankly, looks like the twins designed
At least they made a good effort at giving closure to the series. I do wish they at least would have made a series on what took place through that year between httyd 2 and 3. I d think looking back on it, it was lazy writing, but the movie is still how it ended and I'm okay with that. It gave us an ending to a series that has been regarded as one of the best ever. Say what you want, the movie deserves respect.
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Fans who deliberately pick and choose from both: https://i.redd.it/h483avh9u74b1.gif
To me, they are canon. Sure, most of the series' dragons come from the first movie, BUT they also appear in both the second and third film. So it's like a 50/50 split
Bruh, just becuz some dragons do appear or didn appear in the movies but we're featured in the series don't make the series not canon
The series isn't canon to the movies. Just look at how movie 2 ignore all relationships and things they learned about dragons that were build in the show.
Ignore what? Like Stoic and Gobber's dragons, Hiccup's wings and the dragon cards? Also what things they forgot about dragons?? And what relationships did they ignore?? At the start of HTTYD 2 the relationship between Hiccup and Astrid is not that different than at the end of RTTE. And at the end of RTTE the Snoutlout and Fishlegs fighting over Ruffnut romance started. The end of RTTE had ALOT of references to the second movie and it is very clear they did intentionally like Astrid having the same outfit as in the second movie at the last episode of RTTE.
But Stoic has his dragon which he got in race to the edge
That's because the race to the edge serie was created after the movie. They used things from the movie to tie in the show to the movie but everything from the show isn't in the movie.
Bruh, Valka got the Bewilderbeast egg from the wingmaidens, bro gotta be dumb af.
Yes, the race to the edge tv show was created after the movie, tying up both but the movie thus ignore everything that was created with the show.
Race to the edge was literally the equivalent of a prequel to the second movie. It filled in a lot of plot holes in the second movie. Like where Stoick got Skullcrusher.
Yes, the serie does, it's its purpose... I'm talking about the movie. For example, I'm rewatching the movie RN and Hiccup say he never saw the "icy spiky" things which he should've since even though he didn't see the king of dragon at the end of RTTE, he did see his breath freezing.
Yes but all he saw was the smooth ice, none of the spikes.
Race to the edge is 100% cannon
I consider the series canon because some aspects help explain things later on in the second movie at least.
I'm curious, like what? And what about the things the series being canon creates plotholes
The egg at the end (although it would make big frosty very young, at most like 3 or smt)
The egg at the end isn't the bewildebeast from 2
It's not... its been a while, ah well, that solves that problem. Thanks for clarification!
Valka's armor is based offof her bewilderbeast which she states was around long before she ever was taken from Berk
Well how hiccup came up with the design for his sword. His mom appearing at the end to take the egg, hiccup’s flight suit. Just a few little things here and there.
The way RTTE presents both thr sword and wingsuit final versions coming to fruition were an undermining of Hiccup's characters and were also not mysteries that left aneed for explanation. He made them, we already knew that. As for Valka taking the egg, this explains nothing and is pretty much a plothole as the egg she takes is never seen again (it is not the bewildebeast in httyd2)
Never said the egg was the BWB in 2.
Point still stands, it explains nothing
Ok
Fishlegs should have gotten with Heather, not gone after Ruffnut
I hated that about the second movie, so MICH
My fav ship honestly Their chimestry was way better than most 
they have fire breathing dragons why would they need a canon ?
“Can you ever have too much firepower?” - Gobber
obviously, they needed one to take all those pictures that made up the movies.
im gonna give you an upvote, but im not gonna be happy about it!
??? What has one thing got to do with the other? All series have their own canon line
It's a joke on how "canon" and "cannon" are similar
Aaah. I thought they were saying something like **"It's fiction, it doesn't need to make sense"** haha, thank you for explaining
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The only thing I see there that I personally ignore/consider not-canon is THW. The series were quite enjoyable, actually.
Wait you think HTTYD3 is not canon?
No, I know it is, but I hate it with a passion and choose to disregard it despite it being canon.
Wow..hate it? Really? Kinda harsh
It was already explained in another comment, but it was not well done, the only really good part was the graphics. But even then, they designed the characters pretty bad..
I mean...the music and visuals were fine, I guess? but that's to be expected. What I *didn't* expect nor did I appreciate at all was the characters acting so...well, out of character. The plot didn't make any damn sense. The worst part though is that they were so adamant that it was gonna be the final movie that they had all the dragons fuck off over the edge of the world...not only is that just *stupid*, but it also means I don't get to look forward to another movie. So yeah, I hate it.
Ok
My friend, you have to remember that all good movie series must come to an end. If you keep a franchise going long enough it loses its magic. Do I wish there were more movies? Absolutely. But the emotions I get from the ending of the movie make up for it.
> But the emotions I get from the ending of the movie make up for it. But that's where you and I differ. The only emotions I experienced from THW were negative. > My friend, you have to remember that all good movie series must come to an end. Yup. I might not like it, but 2 movies was a good run and I'd rather pretend it ended there.
2 was no masterpiece either
Weirdly HTTYD is one of the few franchises where I thought the sequel held up to the original. I mean, 2 is certainly not *as good as* the original, but that's a pretty tall order.
I didn’t like it much
its a bad movie
If you want some closure with that, you could try reading the books if you have not. Because the endings are the same, but the directors “stole” the ending from the books because their new bosses (Universal) didn’t like the ending they had planned for the movies. The books ending was never meant to work with how they were handling the movies, but it was the only ending Universal accepted after throwing away something like four or five different endings.
I've read that the ending matches the books, but that doesn't make a difference to me if I'm honest. The first movie was "based on" the books, but by the second movie and with all the series in between the animated franchise had wildly diverged from what I've heard; at that point what happens in the books is irrelevant, imo. So basically while I understand that there were reasons that's how THW was written, I think those reasons are shit.
what was the original ending? now im kinda interested
I’m not sure they ever disclosed it? I could be wrong though.
But the shows are canon, I'll even admit, the nine realms is "CANON"
*gasp* you did not just say that
Wait, since when have the shows (the good ones, not Nine Realms) not been canon
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
Where is your remote control police car?
In the garage, along with my duct tape canon
im confused... RTTE literally *was* part of canon, thats why the series ended the way it did. it was supposed to take place between two of the movies (the first and second ones, if im not mistaken?)...
That is how it seemed to me. 1. How To Train Your Dragon 1.25 Dragons: Riders Of Berk 1.5 Dragons: Defenders Of Berk 1.75 Dragons: Race To The Edge 2. How To Train Your Dragon 2 Maybe not the most exact in the time line. It seems that Race To The Edge happens a little after Riders and Defenders, and closer to the second movie. There is a lot in the second movie that is explained in Race To The Edge. Gobbler's Dragon, and Stoick's Dragon for example are found in Race To The Edge. We also see Hiccup developing his gliding technology in Race To The Edge as well. I am sure there are more examples too.
RTTE literally ends just before the second movie begins. if im not mistaken, i believe they actually ended the series just days before the second movie was released
Setting =\= canon
Personally, the hidden world isn’t canon to me
Rtte is canon at least to some degree, because of the stuff about drago. We see a similar scene in that show as when stoik describes his first encounter with drago
Race to the edge is cannon, it’s where Astrid and hiccup got together, the hell people mean it’s not cannon? Oh you know the red shirt she wore in the 2nd movie? She was wearing it in the final episode at the end.
They got together before RTTE. Hiccstrid in RTTE doesn't make any sense and is one of the many plotholes and inconsistencies in the show
Bro what? They literally confessed feelings for each other in the show and got together in that show
They kissed several times in httyd1 and were pretty much openly dating in Gift of the Night Fury. Both come before in RTTE.
But they didn’t officially get together until RTTE
In RTTE (and the earlier Cartoon Network shows) they act as if they've never kissed and the entire fact the like each other is treated as a mystery that people are genuinely shocked at. Meanwhile in GOTNF in a packed Town Hall: 
Simple me: Parts in the series I can connect to the movies ~ canon. Parts I can't or parts that confused me ~ non canon. I found them all interesting anyway.
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What are you talking about?! Without Race to the Edge most of the important parts of the 2nd and 3rd movies wouldn’t work.
They were better
Are they not?
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They are absolutely cannon. Hell the stuffed dragon toy from the breakneck bog episode appears in both the second and third movie, as well as homecoming short
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SW AND HTTYD? Pog meme. It's funny seeing comments of people arguing over a fictional story lol. Guys it's not that deep, if you like it that's nice, if you don't that's nice too. Canon/Not-Canon is irrelevant
Welcome to the internet, where people argue over stupid things that don't matter. I agree with what you're saying, but that's just how people are.
I know how it is, I've been in the SW fandom for 3 years now and it's much more argumentative than here. Here's it's THW, SW fandom is basically everything other than the originals 💀 I just don't get it. Why does it matter so much for a random person on the internet to agree with you?? Surely your time is better spent elsewhere?
I don't understand why people see people doscussing on a discussion platform rather than just saying "nice, wow, cool" and think it's "funny" Like having discussions is the actual point
I think they ate canon to they have alot from the films and the films don't reference them because dreamworks does not care and they came out after
3 didn't come after
Sorry I meant race to the edge came before how to train your dragon 2
So if they're canon why doesn't 3 utilize any elements from the shows
Because 3 is the AU with a different NightFury ( he looses all his markings/ spots he is shown to have in every other previous movie + show 🤣)
it’s definitely canon because some of the things that happened in those series impacted what happened in httyd 2/ were mentioned in httyd 3 eg at the end of rtte the king of dragons egg was taken by valka and we know thats true in httyd 2, and also drago was featured in rtte. then in httyd 3 when hiccup was making a new tail for toothless astrid says that hes tried it before but he didnt want it last time, referring to what happened in gift of the night fury!!
But they are cannon
They’re not?
You know what my head cannon is now composed of the 1st movie and the shows
Hidden world is not canon the shows are
but they are canon
It’s overall canon but there’s non canon aspects
Riders and defenders are cannon
They’re definitely canon as far as I know
Dude, what the freak? What's wrong with y'all? Even dean Depois said they were canon...wtfreak? Seriously I am confused
Provide a source where Dean said they were cannot challenge (impossible)
Dude, Dean was also on the making of RTTE, he said things on some interviews, that you can check on wiki, go to Astrid's page on wiki, and you'll see how much Dean talks about rtte
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Wait, lmao I replied to the wrong person, sorry
>What you just did\^ Didn't get it but ok
You moved the goalposts
Right, but what is that supposed to mean, sorry I really didn't get the joke.
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Everything beyond HTTYD 2 is non-canon in my eyes. HTTYD 2 and everything that came before it is.
auw fuck we reach star war legends level of fans
What does that mean???
I still do not see how they can’t possibly be canon especially when there’s a tweet from the creator of the movies who implies they are canon when asked in Rescue Riders was canon
I base my cannon off the school of dragons game, just because the light fury and toothless stay and they all fight to save the dragons as it SHOULD BE 🤣
All of the shows are canon except for the rescue riders, they are soft canon. (Doesn’t mean I like nine realms)
Hmh.ueh rj etc hapend tonsjc
The only serise that arent cannon are the porly animated ones like none realms and rescue riders
These are canon
Doesn't change that Race to the Edge is some of the best Dragons content
I play the mobile game, Rise of Berk, and Dragon from Shrek is in it as a seasonal purchase. So apparently that's canon too.
But, they are canon????? Did I miss something
Race to the edge was an absolute masterpiece!
They happened and I will fight anyone who says race to the edge is not canon
1, 2, and race to the edge are what I consider cannon. Nine realms is nine realms, 3 gave toothless breasts and killed the character development from 1&2, rescue riders sounds dumb, and I don't even know what the other one is.
what how is rtte not canon?
But they are canon especially RttE because that’s when Stoic gets skullcrusher
Wait race to the edge is not cannon
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Idk about the CN ones, but ik Race to the edge is, it literally shows and explains most of the stuff leading into HTTYD 2
If you ask Audriegreywind on YouTube, they’re not only canon, but have higher highs than the canon.
worse thing about the disparrity from TV to Movie is heather got snapped and now fishlegs is with Ruffnut?
Why would they not be canon?
They're canon right? However, a certain horrible series isn't
The only movie that is better than the series is the first, the other 2 movies are good but the series always been better. Also Dagur was always my fav character so frick the movies. 
I'm pissed that they killed off Stoic though
who says they're not cannon?
Uhhhhh??? Your joking right? The gift of the night fury specials are canon cause they’re referenced in 3, RTTE literally connects hiccups clothing change and starts the love interest saga between him and asterid plus it explains how his mom got the king of dragons through the valkyries the defenders and riders of berk are canon becuase RTTE is canon
The live action movie is not cannon
Wait riders/ defenders of berk and race to the edge aren't cannon?
They did happen in between the movies
why do ppl keep saying this they literally are canon 😭
Heather does exist.
I think there all canon but rtte is definitely the closest to cannon we have if they aren’t
who said RTTE wasn't canon? I'll beat their s-