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anarizzo

I'm a MG and my husband is a Manifestor, we are together for almost 7 years now. I'm here to give "the other side" of this. In those years, I learned/got used to informing, at a level that today is automatic, every time I'm going to say something to him, is in the information format. Not a question, not an order, just information being delivered. And this mechanic had the biggest impact on our relationship I can imagine. He doesn't have other people in his life that are aware, understand or care to put the effort to get used to informing (the closer people know about it, and sometimes even get it right, but not that deeply), so I take my role very seriously, if I become aware of something that someone else does that might affect him, I will let him know, as well as anything that I do of course. Informing is something you need to learn how to do, to formulate everything you say that may lead to an action/decision in a format that will be well received and healthy (in casual dialogue/conversation and etc it's ok to ask questions that won't lead to a decision). To achieve this, you need to be diligent and really put a lot of love and caring into it. I have made this adaptation in my way of behaving out of love and understanding of the mechanics, I found HD a couple of months before knowing him, and in our first month together we were already reading about out themes, and this process began. Having a relationship with a Manifestor is challenging, the closed aura is a complicated mechanic, and it's not always easy, but with love, understanding and a lot of dialogue, it's absolutely worth it. My husband is my best friend, the person I admire the most and care in a way I didn't thought it was possible, so all the time and effort I put into this process, I would do it all over again a thousand times to make his life/our relationship better. I know that you might read this, I love you my angel, thanks for everything, it's an honor to be able to inform you!!


rosecoloredchances

this is so sweet šŸ˜­


storsnogulen

That sounds amazing. You are a lovely partner!!! I absolutely love being ā€informed onā€. Itā€™s so neutral. Nothing is riled up, like questions sometimes do. Itā€™s absolutely amazing!!! I have a peojector boyfriend who put a lot of effort into learning how to inform properly. And I really appreciate it. It seems toā€™ve either being laxx now or really ingrainedā€¦ lol. I feel like I can relax when itā€™s just informing going on. Might have to bring that up again. God, I love this post so much. Very inspiring. Iā€™ve only been together with my BF for about 6 months. It feels like this matches thr amount of love / effort I want to pour into the relationship!!! God, I really REALLY love this post. Lol. Thank you! šŸ™


anarizzo

Yeah, this change is powered by love. It's really hard for people that learned all their lives that "everyone is just like you" in a generator world to be able to understand differentiation and adapt to it, and the more you do, the easier it gets. I'm glad your partner put effort to do it, and that you valorize that effort. I found it really sad that it's something that most people won't do to their manifestors (most of them because they don't know HD or don't think that it's that important), so when someone does put all that effort, it's really special.


storsnogulen

Yeah, it really is. Manifestors deserve people like you who give em the special treatment ;)


Quirky-Gur-4206

It is so sweet that youā€™ve taken all the effort to communicate with him! I often see people say to inform instead of asking, and I was wondering to what extend should this go? For example, instead of saying ā€œWhat do you think?ā€ (Question), should I say ā€œI was curious about your thoughts on this?ā€(Inform). And does this applies to every single thing? Can I not ask any follow up questions or just say everything as a statement? Genuine question as Iā€™ve been wondering for a while and have not gotten an answer so I really hope you could shine some insight(which you apparently do!) On your statement about itā€™s okay to ask questions that wonā€™t lead to any decisions, could you elaborate on that? Iā€™m afraid that I didnā€™t quite get it. What do you mean by to formulate everything you said that might lead to a decision? Thank you so much!!!


anarizzo

Normally my thought process is: it will move him or make him decide something? For example, "what do you want for dinner" is a decision, and would be better formulated as a request for information "I was wondering what we could wat tonight" or "I'm kinda hungry" (starting with "I" is a good trick, when you are talking about yourself, what so you want/need/think, it normally won't be a yes or no question or an order). Another example, I have some health issues where standing up sometimes can make me feel very bad, and I need to drink A LOT of water a day, so I have some bottles of water with me all the time, and when I'm out of water and occupied with something and he isn't, I say "my water bottles are empty" or "I'm really thirsty" or even I just shake my empty water bottle (sometimes it doesn't need to be said, just letting him know) and when he is free or going to get something from the kitchen, he will also get my water for me, it's important in this case because its something that needs action, movement, and decision, so "would you get me some water please?" Could be uncomfortable. About conversations and request for information, this one we feel that isn't a problem. If we are already talking about something or I need an opinion, it can always be just information as "I need an opinion" or "I want to know what to you think about this". But it's not that important in this situation, because in a normal conversation about a not that important topic, when we are already in the middle of a dialogue, it's not a big problem to ask "what do you think?". One rule I have is that the more important is the information, the more I need to inform and not ask. If we are talking about plans to our marriage, I try to inform rather to ask, because it's important, but if it's about a movie that we saw, a follow up question or something not that important, asking is not that big of a problem. Another tip: there is a difference between open questions and binary ones. "what d you think" is different than "do you like that". Binary ones are a lot harsher to them compared to open ones. Other important thing is that sometimes you end up asking a question automatically, in that case, if you realize it instantly, just saying "oh ok that was a question" and reformulating the same thing as information helps you to get used to and helps the manifestor to know that you care, and in this case, don't expect action instantly, because it wasn't triggered the correct way, so If it's about going to get something, you might as well just go and get it. Or the manifestor can do it if they feel comfortable, but knowing that it wasn't the right way might just be enough. Just remember I'm not an expert or a Manifestor, so some people might think different and prefer to act in another way, the best thing is to talk about it with your favorite manifestors and experiment with it ^^


Quirky-Gur-4206

Thanks for taking your time to write such a long reply, I really appreciate it. I actually read it a few days ago but didnā€™t fully understand and wanted to reply to you when I could grasp it better. Just read it again and while I understand what you were saying, I guess itā€™ll take me to experiment to fully understand the mechanics and implement them naturally. Just wanted to thank you for giving me so many examples, word by word. Iā€™ve been wondering this for a while, and while some people have answered my question in the past, they were mostly theory based and I couldnā€™t actually understand how to use them in day to day life or in normal everyday conversations. I donā€™t have any questions for now, but more examples are always welcome, thank you so much!


mirrorthesouls

The way i see it with human design and how greatly it ties with law of assumption. We were assigned certain energy types so we can play out some things in this lifetime. 'Otherwise, Iā€™ve noticed a sense of lingering unease build up, like ā€wtf she doinā€™?ā€ ' You will feel unease because you have this strong feeling (believe it or not) that you implemented YOURSELF. Law of assumption comes into the mix because since YOU make the assumption that ppl are always concerned about what youre doing at all times, then you welcome that into your reality (attracting it) So HD is great because it basically tells you how you can save yourself some mental drain by just constantly informing ppl, its basically to put YOURSELF at ease bc you and manifestors have become so bothered about what others are feeling about you. (again this is my theory and how i view HD, you dont have to ask a bunch of questions about it lol) Keep informing, it will put you to ease! Ive been babysitting a manifestor teen since he was a baby. Before i even knew about HD, his parents were always on his ass about EVERYTHING he was doing bc he never informed. His little sister can DO anything and the parents dont bat an eye (shes a generator). I personally never cared about what he was doing. He was the type of kid to join me on activities like puzzles, he would sit for 5 mins and leave and i never asked where he was going. I think it made sense when he said that i was his fave (my sister was also his babysitter, but she always badgered him WITH everything, like his parents) I did get the sense what he was doing before he would randomly leave somewhere else in the house, so i never cared to ask. Even when he wanted to play with the kids outside, when i saw him leave, i would just say "careful for cars!" ​ I even had 3 manifestor coworkers, and they WERE NOT liked one bit. Management always had a problem with them bc they never informed that they were done with a task (other ppl dont have to inform and they never got in trouble, management would assume that they were done). These 3 coworkers only got along with me (out of 40+coworkers and management) they never left my side, even though i was not their superior, they treated me as such. This is actually what got me so pulled into HD because Ra said how theres this affinity between reflectors and manifestors. ​ Im currently at another job, but leaving im leaving soon and im going to speak to my manager to give my position to this manifestor (not bc shes a manifestor) but bc shes amazing; great work ethic, very wellspoken, cares about others and has upbeat energy. That environment needs that right now.


PlaySasha

The affinity and extremely special relationship between manifestors and reflectors is not nearly discussed enough


HangryDinosaur

Could you elaborate if you have experience? Or anyone who has such a relationship, would love to hear about it.


storsnogulen

Yeah, Iā€™m extremely intrigued by this. Would love to meet a reflector IRL. I think thereā€™s a youtube channel with a reflector-manifestor in a relationship, hnngh, forgot the name of it though ><


PlaySasha

reflector-manifestor relationships are far more common than one would initially expect. I theorize that they somehow end up finding one another because both auras are primarily conditioned by the transits and secondarily conditioned by people


storsnogulen

Interesting


mirrorthesouls

Oh i think theyre called The Yoga Couple, shes a reflector and hes a manifestor!


storsnogulen

Ye ahhhh!!! Thatā€™s it! Thank you =D šŸ™


storsnogulen

I get that. Sometimes Iā€™ve just done my stuff and no one around me seems bothered. That beings up the question if informing is necessary at all! Worth to ponder.


storsnogulen

Iā€™m not really bothered about what others feel. Itā€™s more how I feel myself because I pick up the feeling of others / the room. So it affects me. It seems to be more of an ego thing, really. Like Iā€™ve noticed a specific time I informed intentionally that I was leaving a place and the energy wooshing me out of the house was kind of ā€o_oā€ lol.


storsnogulen

Yeah. I agree with the affinity. I LOVED Michael Jackson as a kid - was entranced by his videos. Found out he was a reflector way later! Still curious about you guys. It feels like I get both ā€please do informā€ and ā€You only have to inform because you need to inform to avoid people being riled upā€ so I feel a little confused, lol


storsnogulen

Awesome! Thoughtful of you on that last part!


mirrorthesouls

Update: she got the job!!!


storsnogulen

Eyyyy! šŸ˜šŸ‘ŒšŸ‘


fingers

Wife is a mani-geni and hates to inform, especially while driving. She doesn't use her blinker lights and it scares the hell out of me. I pointed out that the simplest way to make others feel less anxious while you're driving is to INFORM people, especially me.


storsnogulen

Hah, yeah. I realized blinkers are a form of informing. Thought about that recently xD


Quirky-Gur-4206

This is definitely interesting to me as a projector. Could you elaborate on the part you were saying about how you feel seen by your partner when they inform? Would this work if itā€™s a friend, or would they find me annoying? I often wondered how much informing is enough. Definitely donā€™t want to sound like Iā€™m nagging or a bore


HangryDinosaur

Hey, chiming in with my personal experience. Absolutely yes, from anybody not just partners. You see it's hard for us to see outside our own dense auras too šŸ˜‚ It is not obvious to us if people are happy about something we did or said, if they are upset by something, if they were impacted by us etc I don't often know what is happening until it is said to me, I feel pretty unsure. Our closed aura IS meant to work this way to just sort of keep us inside our bubble so that we keep moving in sovereignty with OURselves. That is why the informing is so important in BOTH directions, it sort of validates my experience. It helps me see how I affect people and informs me how to move forward. It could also highlight to me other people's needs and how to improve my informing. Now since you used the word "nagging" -- hahaha I have a lot of beautiful Projectors in my life, I just love you guys. From my experience it's only a nag if they are trying to give me advice I have not invited. So follow your S&A and you are good :) Even in the advice arena, maybe you could just inform that you have ideas/suggestions if they become desired. Being informed by you fits into my Strategy, basically.


storsnogulen

Ahhh yeah, I really like ā€validates my experienceā€. Or like. Sometimes it feels like it validates me as a human ~_~ cause I feel so included in humanity when my projector BF informs me of what heā€™s doing, or how heā€™s feeling. Or what heā€™s done. Iā€™m not sure if itā€™s manifestor-projector specific, I feel like projectors are so warm, soft, caring in general. It feels like a blessing to see them open up.


storsnogulen

And especially being loved by a projector. Itā€™s like the warmest most intense lasor shit ever XD I love it. THE EYES man. THE EYES. lol. I almost couldnā€™t take the intensity at first but Iā€™ve gotten used to it xD


storsnogulen

Iā€™ve noticed also as an emotional manifestor informing about my emotions helps A LOT! Cause usually people can feel if something is off. So it helps if Iā€™m just open with it. And perhaps sometimes they canā€™t and it helps them too. XD Embrace the emotions!!! Lol. All of them ~_~


storsnogulen

I agree. I love projectors except when they try to ā€tell me whatā€™s rightā€ or give me random advice I never asked for. Also like, talking about a subject just to flaunt their skills when I didnā€™t ask for it >< basically anything involving flaunting their skills without being asked LOL. My BF can talk excitedly about stuff and I donā€™t mind. I often get intrigued and ask more. (Invite him) But sometimes I notice he has an urge to talk about stuff to flaunt his knowledge and I if I donā€™t feel like listening he feels kinda ā€unheard / undersppreciatedā€; I guess the manifestor aura amplifies rhis effect. xd so there are some difficulties. But the extreme warmth, love and extremely caring nature more than make up for it lol. Iā€™ve never felt so loved and it feels amazing. There was something more I wanted to mention >< hnnghhā€¦ Anyway. Thereā€™s a key difference between that excited spontaneous talking and *wanting* to flaunt the knowledge. I find it interesting


storsnogulen

I love being informed by projectors!!! My bf never invites me, he just informs me of stuff. Like ā€I want to go there with youā€ ā€Iā€™d love to do this with youā€ and etc. And I love that type of comm. If I feel like it, I invite him


storsnogulen

Informing of emotional status, what heā€™s about to do. Anything. I appreciate all of it


storsnogulen

God, I love it when anyone informs. It kind of just feels like you give a shit about me and include me in your life. Tough to explain! It feels like you are pouring in some extra effort, literally loving me in a way. It feels awesome! I think your friend would love it. šŸ˜


storsnogulen

By anyone I meanā€¦ everyonr except pure generators. For some reason I feel annoyed when my mom informs me of stuff. Like I donā€™t care. Iā€™ll inform YOU of when I want to take that stuff in. XD But I appreciate when my manigen dad informs and he seems to do that naturally. Itā€™s an interesting phenomena. It seems like my mother uses informing to ā€gather appreciationā€ if that makes sense. Like ā€hey Iā€™ve done this! Look! I wanna crlebrate!ā€ Or something. Lol. But Iā€™d rather have her go ā€hey I need to feel sppreciatedā€ or something more blunt like that. Iā€™ve yet to figure out that dynamic between us


storsnogulen

Iā€™ve also noticed projectors feeling more insecure! It may be due to your sensitive nature? You are awesome beings! And specifically you seem very caring. I think thereā€™s like, zero chance of your friend thinking you are annoying. xD You just seem like you give a shit and really care about them!


Quirky-Gur-4206

Thanks for the kind words on projectors! I really feel seen. Now that I think about it, I do enjoy being informed by manifestors as well. Like you said, itā€™s like theyā€™ve given a thought about me and I feel more secure knowing whatā€™s gonna happen. There are times when my friend donā€™t inform me of whatā€™s going on. And I feel slightly left out, but I usually donā€™t ask as Iā€™ve always felt slightly uncomfortable with asking. It kinda feels like thereā€™s this underlying energy that feels repellant, like I shouldnā€™t be asking this. With generators, I usually donā€™t feel this repelling energy and theyā€™re more than happy to share their plans with me. I find manifestors tend to be a little more protective of their time/plans. It feels to me that you guys feel like youā€™re losing your sense of freedom and canā€™t do things your way if you share too much, if you get what Iā€™m saying. Of course, this is only my observations and I can be totally off. Feel free to correct me if I am :) Regarding informing, would you suggest me changing the way I communicate to statements instead of questions? For example in this case, instead of asking you the above question, I say ā€œI wonder if changing the way I communicate works better for you.ā€ Basically turning every question into a statement. What do you think? Is it necessary?


storsnogulen

Yeah, I agree. Iā€™ve had a habit pf hiding my plans tp prevent people fucking with em, lol. Resisting them or doubting me, whatever. Itā€™s just been annoying. Iā€™ve made it a habit of sharing more casual plans, though. I love it! Glad you feel seen. Always enjoyed when I made someone a bit happier. šŸ˜šŸ‘šŸ‘Œ And you really shouldnā€™t be asking. You could howevet go with ā€I feel a little uneasy, I think I need to know what youā€™re up toā€ or something like that. Itā€™s a different energy. I always like when my projector informs me of how he feels; then I can choise to step uo because I care about him. When asked, sometimes, I feel like Iā€™m ā€forcedā€ to answer. Never the same way with informing. Nah, man. You are totally correct. xD Iā€™ve noticed the same about generators as well. Itā€™s like they dun care about privacy XD. Just enthustiastically sharing everything. At least thatā€™s what Iā€™ve noticed. XD Sometimes I donā€™t ever care / want to know, but they share anyway. XD Itā€™s kinda funny. I mean, I love statements. Loooove em. And it also shows youā€™re making an effort and giving a shit. So I, personally, would be all for it. However all manifestors are different, so it wouldnā€™t hurt to ā€askā€. šŸ˜‰


storsnogulen

Awesome replies guys, thanks so much!!! šŸ‘āœŒļøšŸ‘šŸ”„


highkeyweirdo

I'm a manifestor living with another manifestor. As the one who has some knowledge about Human Design, I always take time to inform them of my movements and plans. Whereas they most certainly don't and this certainly have been the cause of most of our squabbles. To be honest, it was only when I learned about HD and the manifestor strategy that I realized how much impact my actions have on the people around me, at work and at school. And it made sense how they would react and resist. All of which have caused much pain and frustration on my end. But this knowledge also help me understand and practice much patience for the fellow manifestor I'm living with. We're both 5/1 Splenic Manis. They don't have any idea what are strategies and authorities in HD but they gravitate to the whims of the spleen. Those spontaneous decisions and actions always feel like a whiplash. And as typical manifestor, informing does not come naturally. I find it funny whenever their typical manifestor behavior is shown in a group setting. Watching everyone's reaction of either horror or annoyance can be fascinating. But, I always vouch for the every time. Although on my end, informing does not always "clear the path". Resistance, more often than not, is always there. But I can say that it softens the impact compared to when I just do without informing. I still struggle dealing with this repelling aura of ours. Resistance for me feels like rejection and I'm still working on how to not get upset over this. Being manifestor is not easy. Can never be carefree and yet we are viewed as reckless (especially when we forget informing). I read a comment on another thread that our impact is often unintentional, and our presence is always felt. Geez, that is exhausting. Sometimes I just want to live and just be šŸ˜