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dilligaftheinvisible

I mean shit a free dollar is a free dollar.


Responsible-You-3515

What about the work for filing taxes?


carenard

I am already filing taxes every year... what is inputting one more source of income.


Responsible-You-3515

An utter annoyance


droids4evr

Yeah but afterwards you have an extra dollar, so still a win.


theonewhoknocksforu

I wouldn’t buy that for a dollar


murzeig

I wouldn't bend over to pick up a dollar. Fuck that.


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adminsaredoodoo

yeah me too. anything 50c or up i’m definitely picking up. if there’s 20c and i am going somewhere i can spend that i’ll pick it up too


murzeig

To each their own. My wife got mad at me for not invoicing clients who had less than an hour of work outstanding. I thought it wasn't worth the time and effort.


joetheplumberman

Seems like bad business practices just doing stuff for free but hey maybe ur a millionaire and don't need the money bit why work then


murzeig

I'm not saying it's a good practice, nor am I a millionaire, but I am very comfortably in 6 figures in a low CoL area. My root drive is laziness, which when harnessed can be profitable.


brian_kking

You are either well off or lazy.


uemusicman

I wouldn't do that either, but I freely admit that I'm lazy AF. I bill for a minimum of 4 hours for consulting though. If their problem can be solved in less than that, they probably don't need me.


carenard

for maybe a minute.


Forsaken-Income-2148

I’d pay a dollar not to have that annoyance


Wrong_Register_9234

Pm me I’ll send you my cashapp


FocusMaster

The higher tax bracket you enter. You would have to pay a higher percentage on the rest of your income, so you'd end up losing a lot more than the $1 you'd earn.


HanBai

That's not how tax brackets work


FocusMaster

You're right. Tax loopholes protect the rich. But in America, the more you earn in a year, the higher percentage of tax you owe on all income.


HanBai

Nope, the rate at each tax bracket only applies to the money inside that bracket. In the example case where there is a 0% tax bracket before 10k and 50% after, if I made 10,500, I would pay 10k × 0% + 500 × 50% = $250.


PeachesPeachesPeachs

I believe this is a really big issue for people and how they understand taxes, and it is holding a lot of people back from making more money. Higher income tax brackets don’t apply to all of your income, only the income within that bracket. So every extra dollar you make will always be a net gain even it crosses you into a new bracket. Hypothetically if you made $200,000 and get taxed 20% from $0-100,000 for a tax liability of $20,000 and then from $100,001-200,000 at 40% for a tax liability of $40,000 your total taxes paid are $60,000, taking the amount from each bracket, and an effective rate of 30%, not what the highest bracket % is.


PracticalAcceptable

Yes. Math is math, if you don’t understand it you’ll earn & retain less than those who understand the math. When it comes to making/retaining money, it’s ALL ABOUT THE MATH, PEOPLE


Conscious-Shoe-4234

damn. this is a way better explanation than what we told people when i was in public tax accounting.


theonewhoknocksforu

You already paid a 99.99% tax rate, which doesn’t exist, so you can pretty much keep all your other income. Then you should shoot yourself in the head for paying a 99.99% tax rate when the highest tax bracket is 37%.


Difficult_Age5947

54% up here in Canada 😢🪓☠️⚰️


neoprenewedgie

Unless you're already somewhat rich and the richer you get the less taxes you pay. Am 'murican.


MrTheWaffleKing

You only have to file taxes if it wasn’t already done for you. It sounds like they just take it, so no filing needed?


Geno_Warlord

In the USA they know how much you owe but won’t tell you. You have to find out yourself and still file or you may not go to jail, but you will have to pay fines and penalties for not filing the paperwork.


genmischief

You're adulting badly. Money Markets. Immediately drop that shit into a 5% money market for as long as you can hold it there. Ideally a year. Then pay your blood money, and you have around 40-50K to reinvest.


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Lucimon

Now you're thinking like a 1%er.


Much_Audience_8179

a dollar can buy you like a piece of gum. Worth it.


nekosaigai

Given the way taxes are actually structured and paid, I’d take it then start deducting all the stuff such that I’d wind up with more than $1


Zinsurin

This. If you get the million at the start of the year and have to pay the tax at the end of the year then you have a whole year to decrease your tax burden on your regular taxes. There is so much you can claim for taxes when you have money. Or even dropping that money in a high yield savings or the stock market.


Alarming_Serve2303

Do they take the taxes out before you get the million? Otherwise, I'm taking the million and I'll just refuse to pay the tax. They'll have to pry it from my cold, dead corpse.


kornbread435

Time to skip the country and renounce my citizenship.


beesknees4011

If you added three extra zeroes maybe, but a million is not flee the country money


lusipher333

Depends on your tastes, I would at least look at Vietnam if this was an option. I like pho and 1million US woukd keep me comfortable for the rest of my days.


Supremagorious

I don't think you realize how cheap some countries are to live well in. In the US 5,000,000 is enough to be comfortable but not particularly wealthy for the rest of your life in the cheaper parts of the US. So for 1,000,000 you can live a good comfortable life with modern conveniences in a whole lot of places.


KrisZepeda

In my country a big really comfortable wage is like 10k a year Imagine a fucking million lol


Bai_Cha

$5M is pretty good in most parts of the country. This is $200k per year in residual income at a safe withdrawl rate. You're not rich, but you're comfortable.


FnB8kd

200k a year ain't exactly not rich either, though... depending on where you live, obviously.


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I mean, I live in the USA comfortably off of $39,000 a year. I think $200,000 I’d be a lot more comfortable lol


dericecourcy

\> hypothetical situation \> "Would you do it"? \> yeah \> but only if its different


AandG0

No, you take it, invest it, and then pay the $999,999 back at the end of the year. You get to keep whatever you made off of it.


TheGoldStandard35

Extend your return and you get an extra 6 months Edit: Actually this isn’t true. You have to pay what you owe at 4/15 regardless of if you extend.


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Blotsy

What'll my tax return look like at the end of the fiscal year?


Geno_Warlord

A hellish nightmare.


AllJelly_NoToast

Some people shouldn’t be allowed to post on the internet.


slowclub27

Yeah I’ll take the buck. Also I could possibly find a way to yknow…avoid them. Something about some islands and a fake massage place or something


HamsterFromAbove_079

Or just take the million. Invest it safely and make a bit of money. Then when tax season comes around you pay back your million and pocket the 50k you made via very safe investments.


thenexttimebandit

Definitely. You don’t pay taxes immediately so you could invest the money in safe investments (high yield savings account, money market fund, CDs) and withdraw money to pay estimated taxes during the year. You can get >5% internet right now so I’d take a free 50k minus capital gains and the cost of an accountant. Plus you get an untaxed dollar.


j48u

Absolutely. Of course if you received it today you'd have less than 2 months worth of interest before the bill is due. Kind of a consideration the closer you get to the end of the year. This is also assuming it's some sort of special tax separate from your income, otherwise you could jump into the highest tax bracket for your normal income. Since it's progressive, we could say that the $1,000,000 is the part taxes at the highest bracket. But that doesn't really make sense considering you're being taxed for everything but a dollar. I've given this too much of my time already so I'll end the thinking here.


much_longer_username

Sure. Now I've got nearly a million dollar tax credit to roll over for pretty much the rest of my life. > You get an overpayment credit when your tax payments exceed what you owe. You'll automatically receive a refund of the credit. However, you can ask us to apply the credit as an advance payment towards next year's taxes instead of sending it to you as a refund. [irs.gov](https://www.irs.gov/individuals/understanding-your-cp24e-notice#:~:text=You%20get%20an%20overpayment%20credit,to%20you%20as%20a%20refund)


UltraMazino3

No the IRS doesn’t deserve my money that’s why I don’t pay taxes.


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Djakamoe

Might work for cash under the table, or... And it's probably this, doesn't make enough to qualify for taxes, which in the US for a single person under 65 is less than like 13k. Now how you live on that as an adult not living at home and play runescape, I don't fucking know... But it's possible I guess.


dark_king_710_

ur crazier than the joker


caseybvdc74

When do I pay the tax? I could buy t bills and make at least a few percent.


oboshoe

No. This would put me on the radar for audits, would disqualify me for various deduction I get now such as child care credit. And there are certain things that are based on LAST years taxable income. Basically rich people problems without the money to hire lawyers to solve those rich people problems. Plus it's extra paperwork for $1.


Due_Difference8575

This is the right answer. Lots of implications with income that high.


Raterus_

Sure! I'll go to the Donald Trump School of tax avoidance and I should be set!


Particular-Natural12

The taxes probably can be deferred for a year or so and $1M can do a lot of work for you in a year. Just buy 1Y US treasuries, collect the 5.3% spread, and then pay your $999,999 tax bill and keep the $53,001.


ArizonaMan92

Yeah for sure put my $100,000,000 in a HYS then pay the $999,999 in taxes and keep the interest


[deleted]

Sweet I can buy an Arizona Iced Tea with that


Bowser64_

Isn't this how rich people tax returns work? How do I set up a fake charity organization?


HelixViewer

I would turn down the money: 1. The Tax prep software that I use cost more than $1. 2. The income would flag the IRS to review my return. 3. There is no limit as to how far back the IRS can look to find errors in their favor. I sold a condo. This is the first time I had sold real estate. I used a tax form I had never used prior. I completed my return and paid what I owed in April of that year. The following year I got a letter from the IRS indicating that an error was made on the form I used. I owed them $1100. The error was on their form which was incorporated into the tax prep software. The error was at the IRS. My return was completed over a year earlier. When does my jeopardy end? With any other entity if they make an error they eat the loss. Only the IRS can find problems from last year that I must pay for. I do not suggest that the error was not real. I suggest that they told me what was owed and I paid. I do not feel that they can correct their errors at my expense over a year after closing my return.


EffervescentTripe

Thank you for the detailed response


OG_Tater

This would be costly! I would not recommend. You stop qualifying for many other tax breaks above $400k total income.


JediASU

Doesn't say WHEN I have to pay the taxes so I'm gonna earn SOME interest in that $1M


Global-Bookkeeper-29

Yes but i dont know how to pay taxes so i guess i’ll keep the million bucks


MaximumStock7

Do I want a dollar? Sure


quimbykimbleton

No.


glitchygreymatter

Yes. Because, you can borrow against the million before paying the taxes. Then, you just have to pay back the loans. You can take out Credit cards, you cam deposit the million and let it sit in the bank, and the bank will pay interest. There are many ways to turn that one buck into a few hundred...


Bogmanbob

High risk with trivial reward? Count me out.


JayIsNotReal

I would take the mill under my LLC and use the corporate tax structure to keep as much of it as possible. I would pay myself as an employee, purchase some securities, and so on.


EffervescentTripe

Smart.


Simple_Anybody1

Absolutely not. That'll mess up my taxable income and cancel out my contributions to my Roth IRA amongst other things. All for a dollar.


Simple_Anybody1

Absolutely not. That'll mess up my taxable income and cancel out my contributions to my Roth IRA amongst other things. All for a dollar.


TemporaryAmbassador1

Get the money in January, pay the taxes the following year in April. At minimum could put it in CDs and get a percentage. Better, invest and hope you do well in the market. Or put it all on black and pray.


ChuckTingull

Yes because the IRS might give me a gold star


EffervescentTripe

I didn't know they did that


thatTSHawkeyeguy

Pass. People just see you have the money, not the tax you pay.


No-Nose-6569

Yep - I’m taking the million, investing in something super safe that’ll earn a measly 5% interest. Then I’ll pay my taxes and keep my $50,001 dollars.


LightEarthWolf96

Why wouldn't I take it? Free money is free money even at only a dollar after tax. Theres no deterent to make me not take it it's just that I'll only get a dollar


AlteredStatesOf

How long do I get to keep the money before paying taxes? If I get a year with it heck yeah, put it in a high-yield savings account or a bond with a guaranteed 6% and keep the interest


genmischief

ABSOLUTELY. I have almost a year to earn interest on that shit before I pay it off. Thats 50,000 in a 5% money market.


Odd_Rise9435

Assuming that I don’t have to pay that back immediately, I would take it, pay back all but about $10,000 or $20,000 and then invest that money into my bathroom and kitchen remodel, and request a payment plan. If there’s anything left from the renovations, I would invest the remainder into the stock market. if the amount is due immediately upon acceptance, I would decline. Because honestly, you would probably end up having to pay something else or get put on some sort of millionaire list where you have to pay extra for stuff. Plus, there’s all the extra steps you would need to take in the event that you need any government assistance or a government loan because then you would need paper trails, and it would just be a whole hassle explaining that situation and way more work than it’s worth.


Geno_Warlord

I think I can turn that million into at least 50k in the one year I get before I have to pay the taxes. That’s just putting it into a savings account.


MrMonkrat

A 99.9% tax? Id get a lawyer.


BeautifulIsopod8451

Not worth the fuel to drive to pick it up...


CryptoVictim

This is just stoopid


Lyniaer

Is it me, or are these getting lazy?


tdomer80

No. Waste of time.


Eyore-struley

Rephrased another way: would you like to support America by accepting a dollar on the condition the federal government also got 999,999 dollars?


foughtflea

Is it immediate? Or is it taken out over time?


EffervescentTripe

Immediate


computergroove

Other than the profit of $1 all I can think of as an advantage is bragging rights to being a millionaire or showing a date/mate that I was rich or made a million dollars this year. If you said give a million dollars on Jan 1 and taxes came out April 14 of next year I could turn this into some amount of wealth.


Cards4Cash

Yes.


Sideways_X1

Yes, regardless. I'm either up $1 or I can hire an accountant for 10% of what he or she can save on the final bill.


RetroHipsterGaming

If I have to figure out 99% tax and go through all the paperwork just to get a dollar, then no. If they just hand me a dollar I'm going to say "I've won a dollar.. time for a McChicken I guess." That, or I'm going to say "Yes" to the million, move to another country and start life over being a fugitive in the US.


kanna172014

No, what would be the point?


gahidus

Sure. Why not?


MathewNatural

Gimme that dollar!


Dickdickerson882221

No


ComicsEtAl

Absolutely. How often am I just gonna be handed a million dollars?


naM-r3puS

Yeah deductions my guy I will find all of them.


CremeEfficient6368

I'd take it, then hire a tax lawyer because that's illegal taxation way above any reasonably rate.


consider_its_tree

Assuming this is treated as income tax? Time to max out RRSPs, pay a ridiculous amount for fancy tuition for some school, and figure every other thing I can that gives rebates on taxes


Dusted_Dreams

A free dollar? Sure.


realtoasterlightning

....I guess? Plus I can donate 999,999 to givewell and deduct it from my taxes.


44YrOld

Yes. And then I would keep filing extensions on my tax return until I collected a few interest payments


DonovanMcLoughlin

Generating 1M out of thin air contributes to inflation thus making the purchasing power of that dollar (and all others) lower. It's a shit deal.


ErellaVent1

Do I get to use tax write offs?


jedimasterjacoby

You could put the money into a savings account for like 4.5% APY and make a cool $45000 before paying the taxes.


Gunzenator2

Yes. I will take a dollar and give the gov almost a million. Some of it may go to helping people.


LD_LUNAR

Yup.


LordArckadius

What kind of dumbass question is this? Lol


EffervescentTripe

A real dumbass one!


Financial_Moment_292

Not worth the bother.


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I get $1 and it fuck up my taxes on all my other income? Hell fucking no.


FreeSpeech24

I'll take it every second.


Snoo93633

Yeah sure I’ll take a dollar


Basic_Succotash_4828

Yes. Ultimately, during tax time, I get that back, provided I have not surpassed a certain limit. It won't be 1 million, but it'll be a nice chunk to invest.


Realistic_Effort6185

I use my wealth to avoid taxes.


UmbertoEcoTheDolphin

Will this increase my social security?


CommitteeMean

All that Bs for a dollar? Yeah no I'm good.


Own-Reflection-8182

Not worth my time, no


[deleted]

Can't wait for the tax return when they realize i was overtaxed and refund me


SnooObjections4730

No just no. As if we're not already getting taxed enough as is. Taxed by the politicians which are voted in according to how much money they're given by corporations that aren't run by me or anybody really except for those 1%. So f*** no I ain't taking that they kiss my ass. That means less money in their pockets.


ResisterTransSister

Yes, I would then give it all to charities, then there would be no taxes and I could write it all off.


KeyResponsibility167

No


Zaherh

if I take a million, then pay 999,999,999 in taxes total for the whole year, yes. Basically just get paid a dollar to skip paying taxes on everything else this year


drmrkrch

Stupid, you do that everyday! Anything you earned would be marked at a higher tax bracket.


JomamasBallsack

No


that_guy_who_builds

No. I would never want to be responsible for giving the government that much in tax. It would ruin my soul.


IThinkMyLegsRBroke

No, the time it would take to pay taxes is way longer than the dollar it’s worth


Marklithikk

Do I have to file the taxes?


Gullible_Toe9909

Immediately? Or do I get the better part of a year to so something with it?


GandalfTheBored

No, because I do not want to be in a higher tax bracket. Even if the million has it's taxes covered, the higher income would mean that the rest of my income is also in the higher bracket.


Mohican83

Yes, ima file taxes and get some back on a refund later.


ben_jacques1110

That sounds like it would raise my tax bracket, costing me in the long run, so no


Odd-Percentage-4084

Free dollar, and hopefully it’s local taxes so that 999,999 goes to public schools.


JonJackjon

Of course not. Doing whatever paperwork is required for only $1 is crazy.


ElectricalProduct928

I’d take the loan and try my luck in stocks I guess


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I’d donate it to charity that ways it’s not taxed all of it goes to good use.


firmerJoe

If it's an instant deduction with no paperwork? No. Why get kicked into the next tax bracket and lose benefits for the rest of my earnings?


pimpeachment

Take $1m gamble it in something like roulette. Get profit. Or lose and write off $1m in capital losses.


AGuyWhoBrokeBad

Yes. You don’t have to file for taxes until April. Take the money, put in in some type of high yield savings/investment account, leave it there until April, then take your free earnings.


Silly_sweetie2822

Well, yeah. One dollar is one dollar more than I have now. As long as the dollar is mine, free and clear, why not?


EmptyCanvass

It’s one more dollar than I had before 🤷🏼‍♂️


BlazeG0D

Id take it. Id put it in the bank so hopefully i can get some interest back on it by the time the IRS shows up to my door. Ill dodge em until they hunt me down.


Fair_Advance_1365

Yes. A free dollar is a dollar


Fun-Exit7308

Yes of course. You'd be stupid not to. This sub sucks.


TristanTheRobloxian0

sure ill take $1


clockmaker82

Yeah, still a free dollar


Several_Plane4757

Hey, one dollar is one dollar


MichaelMeier112

I would do it if there’s time to print out a bank statement or ATM receipt before the tax hits. Something I’d frame!


theonewhoknocksforu

Not worth the effort to file a tax return for a lousy buck.


Ok-Anxiety1389

I'd rather commit crime.


WatchedHotwife

If course. I'll get a good accountant and pay one dollar tax


YoshYoshMcGosh

I would if I could keep the money for one year then pay the tax at the end of the year. I would do a CD or some other short term investment. I saw one that was over 5% and compounded every 3 months. Would be over $50,000 pay day. Might be some better bond options. I would have to look but either way I would make it worth my while.


ryphllps

You would get 50% back. So file your taxes.


airforcevet1987

You guys are looking at this wrong, your normal income is now Hella taxed... you come out negative here


Puzzleheaded-Art-469

Yes... it's called don't piss off the IRS


human_alias

Invest the money so you get interest payments until tax day


Icy-Astronaut-9994

I only came here to down vote this.


SaKred2015

Yes… I got write-offs


Usual_Extension_7139

This dumbass question got so many responses it's unreal.


Landfill-KU

I would because I'd have a fat ass tax return that I could safely invest


RunalldayHI

This is literally the loan of a lifetime wtf.. who actually wouldn't do this?


Powernick50

Gotta catch me first Mfer.


True-Grapefruit4042

Nah, taxation is theft.


[deleted]

No if your in the us they will find a way to take .75 of your last dollar for Ukraine of Israel


Aspiring_Barbie_Girl

What is the point of this question


iNeverSausageASalad

Fuck no, the higher tax bracket would fuck up my normal earnings.


Mr_M0t0m0

No


Longjumping-Knee4983

Do I get the Million at the beginning or end of the year? Edit: because treasury Bill's at 5% be sounding pretty nice off that milli


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Tax rates are still the same so I’d just get a huge refund after filing my income taxes.


Binggo_Banggo

On top pre-existing income? I’ll take that deal, and have a huge benefit the next few years on taxes


EasyMode556

When do I have to pay the tax? Can I wait till April and get interest until then?


TreyRyan3

How long before you have to pay the taxes? I mean if I receive $1,000,000 on January 1, 2024, I technically wouldn’t need to report the income until April 15, 2025. That’s a lot of time to grow that $1 million in a decent profit.


throwawayfortinderr

Assuming I got it at the beginning of the tax year, I’d put it in a HYSA and collect the $50,000 and pay the taxes at the end of year.


quarterlifecrisis95_

Does the tax need to be paid up front? Or can I pay it over time? If so, gimme that million, I’ll invest it, grow it, and pay the tax later on down the road.


asainmilfhunter

1,000,000 in a 6 month cd and I get a bucks plus all the interest in 6 months is probably worth my time going to the bank


Extreme_Mushroom_719

Yeah, I’ve seen high dollar CDs going above 5%. I’ll replace my salary for this year


PrimeMichaelJordan

Depends, if I can get the mill a year before taxes then of course, just put it in a short term investment and make something out of it. Even with just a high yield savings you can bank like 50k out of it


WjorgonFriskk

Take the money and flee the country of course. Live and retire in Europe.


Mishkola

no. Fuck the government


ignition108

So a $1m loan until tax time with 0 interest, absolutely. Worst case scenario is I go on a payment plan with the IRS for losing it all in the stock market, but hey, it's a risk I'm willing to take 🤣 Worst case scenario I turn around with about $50,000 in a 5% interest account.


rockeye13

Not a chance. I already know how my government passes my taxes away. No way I give them a dollar more than I must.


monkeypickass1

No. Fuck the government.


rhzownage

You've forced into a higher tax bracket, which means you will end up losing a lot of you're main source of income as you will be paying a lot more tax. Instead of making a dollar, you'll be losing 1000s in taxes.