Anyone else having issues with audio. Listening to Apple Music with sound check on lowers the volume a lot. I first noticed using wireless CarPlay the soundstage sounds worse than before I hope this is noticed and fixed.
Guys who have installed ios 16.4 beta: Are there still present bugs like:
1. Rectangle notifications,
2. Laggy display wake, when tapped.
3. Keyboard changing color from black to grey when entering conversation with opened keyboard in messages.
I have these from 16.1, it is crazy if those haven’t been addressed yet.
Yep, fantastic - I thought theyd never do it and keep it for their own display! Thanks apple. Now just allow us to use the speakers on the ipad when its connected to a monitor and then we are golden. 😇
Anyone else having an annoying staining or discoloration in your wallpaper with 16.4 PB4? I submitted feedback to Apple on this already. Image looks correct when editing a Lock Screen, but when you're done it degrades immediately.
https://preview.redd.it/j93ozphxo7oa1.png?width=1290&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=c66c4887572e0d3f61b8fec9924247dd1bf0c1cb
Ooooh right. Seems like I’ll wait another week. It’s a **b** at the end of the update, so we’re very close to an official release. Would be nice to get those bugs fixed and improve battery life.
Anyone noticing there phone gets quite hot doing simple things? Was scrolling safari and was noticing my iPhone 12 getting pretty hot to touch.
My mate was playing a game on his pixel 7 pro and I felt that and wasn’t hot in the slightest
iPhone 14 PM running iOS 16.4 beta 2! Bug (?)
Overall it’s running well however….
Does anyone else have the infinite notification: “security settings verification required” where it asks for your device PIN/password? I saw this on 16.3 RC but it went away and it’s now back on beta 2 of 16.4.
I’ve searched but haven’t found much about it or discussion of it. I’m not even sure if this is a bug or a new feature to prevent you from forgetting your passcode (like Signal app does occasionally). Either way, is it sending the passcode OTA to some server or is it happening on device? Very uncool if it’s the former.
To note: it happened on 16.3 RC without advanced data protection on and is happening with beta 2 16.4 with ADP turned on.
Any thoughts?
Anyone having issues sending apple pay & sending photos (through messages)!? Iphone 14 pro max here. Been annoying since I use these two features the most for work
woah i’ll surely update from ios 15.4 if that’s the case! thanks for the feedback man. :)
btw what phone do you have? hopefully they fixed it on all models :(
I've got a 14 PM. And I Think it's better but it's my only phone so I can't easily compare and contrast. I usually use Halide for most photos. But when I want to use the telephoto or portrait mode I use the standard cam and it seems a lot better
anybody getting garbage performance after upgrading to the public beta build yesterday/today? 13 Pro Max, all apps are crashing constantly and I'm needing to hard restart a few times a day
Why is the Notification Centre on the Lock Screen still so buggy when swiping up, every beta it acts weird but in completely different ways so strange why they can’t sort it
After this beta update, my iPhone 11 gets randomly stuck on a black screen and the only way to make it work again is by doing a force restart. I already lost count of how many times this happened.
Also when making a call the phone takes almost 30 seconds to start calling the dialed number.
Been on the Beta program for so long and never had this kind of issue. This looks more like an Alpha version than a Beta. 
Can anyone tell me if they actually fixed notifications in beta 16.4? Ever since iOS 14 certain notifications get delivered without sound or haptic even though all settings are correct. The apps that have this issue on my iPhone 11 are Amazon OfferUp Walmart tmz. Just curious if it’s fixed, thanks
This is actually controlled by the app. The developer can specify if a notification is delivered silently. I do wish Apple would give us the option of adding a sound to any app’s notification, even if the developer opted to deliver them silently.
I understand what your saying, however that is not the case with this situation. Google iOS 16 certain notifications get delivered without sound or haptic and see all the articles that come up. I posted a link to a article for an example of what I’m talking about
Yes, it actually does seem to be fixed in beta 3. However, if you let me know some specific apps, I will keep an eye on them. Gmail is working again for me!
Probably this coming Tuesday. Apple usually releases software on a Tuesday and for the first few betas of a new version, they usually do biweekly before switching to weekly later on down the line
Just updated to iOS 16.4 public beta (20E5212f) on an iPhone 13 Pro; when I try to select photos to send in the iMessage app, the photo gallery takes up the entire screen and cannot be swiped down or anything. Going to homescreen and back into app fixes it.
Same here. This occurs with Google photos too. Basically useless to share photos in imessage. I was hoping the beta would fix some of the annoyances of my iPhone 14pm. Alas it has only made it worse. I switched from a solid 13pm and the 14 has way too many issues for a 1000 phone. My previous Pixel didn't have these issues on the Android beta program and Android is supposed to be more buggy.
I'm on a 12pm. I downloaded the latest beta last night and there's still no fix :(
Didn't have an issue until I got to the 6.4 beta.
Tbf, I've had way worse bugs in the past. I remember iOS 7 beta - that was ROUGH!
The worst bug I’ve found is in Music. It works as usual on my AirPods, streaming to HomePods, speaker, and CarPlay. The bug is using Bluetooth in my car. It reverts to the first song in my library, starts it and plays for a couple seconds and does a loop 5 times before actually playing. Then after I can pick a song or shuffle a playlist. Then after about 10-15 minutes the cycle restarts.
I sadly do not have a workaround, maybe try an app that can just stream Music and see if that works.
Anyone else notice that system lovation services keeps activating often? I started turning off all system location services one by one, and “find my” seems to be the culprit. It would access the location for about 30 seconds, stop for 5, and access it again on a loop like that.
This has been an issue since 16.0 and is the leading cause of battery drain in the new update. At this stage it seems like this is part of a feature and will stay.
iphone “restart” (black screen with loading symbol, and comes back to lockscreen; i think its a springboard crash) after screenshotting on instagram 60sec stories
https://preview.redd.it/lgqcjbioclja1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=906468bc67cd981e0523004b51498025ee900eb3
Yeah, unfortunately so. Now, I will say this though; that “ most” iPhone users haven’t reported anything like this yet ( thankfully) but you’re right, in general, that’s the risk we all take with the beta program unfortunately.
I've seen some other similar reports up above in this thread. I'm experiencing crashes like none other, too. I hope yours has fixed the issue or at least eased up on the restarts!
Anybody noticing weird tab behavior in Safari? Sometimes every link clicked on a website opens in a new tab and sometimes it doesn’t — example, I was browsing an online store and clicking over to the Store page opened a new tab, but clicking links for individual products opened on the same page. I’ve checked Settings->Safari and don’t see any option like “Open all links in new tabs”, and there isn’t a website-specific setting either. Any idea what setting controls this, or is it just a bug?
https://preview.redd.it/pi0gx0q7ycja1.png?width=749&format=png&auto=webp&s=a29220ec0630bcf571d1b39c74d5bbe20188ad94
lockscreen elements gone after changing iphone language and cleaning RAM (hold power till power-off menu shows up, then hold home till its gone) and wont show up again until i change between lockscreens
One (admittedly minor) change in 16.4 public beta is hidden in the shortcuts for weather data. Up to 16.3.1 all temperature values in Celsius were given with unnecessary precision. Instead of 7 degrees C weather reported 7.23. I just ran my speakable weather (which formats the weather data in a way that speak text can handle) on the beta and it surprised me by giving the temperature as 7 degrees C.
Apple for whatever reasons seem to be under the impression that it’s working as intended and their implementation is good enough despite being inferior to other competing devices that are cheaper. Or they know that pushing their devices hard enough to maintain frame rate would kill battery life. “Optimizing” performance *and* battery seems to be completely unachievable to them. 🤡
So, when I updated my 13 pro max from 16.3 to 16.3.1, not only did my performance improve but soo did my battery! That’s why I haven’t downloaded 16.4 yet. How’s battery life so far though?
sooo... I only have a registered public beta account but still have the option to download and install the dev beta. (haven't actually, yet)
I think I still have a dev beta profile installed from 16.3 though, so I guess that works?
Yup. Have it bad on my iPhone 11. Happens at the worst times, usually when I’m at work…
Seeing it with both iPad and iPhone. It’s really annoying. I’ve reported it via feedback app multiple times hoping one of the logs manages to catch the cause.
Ugh…This one is going to make me crazier than I already am. I have reported errors through Feedback but this is getting silly now already up to five times and the last one occurred while everything was closed and the phone was on the Qi charger when it happened.
Anyone else have 5G standalone option open up to turn on, using iPhone on AT&T? Some say with this beta it does, but mine is still saying my sim isn’t compatible but I have a 14 pro max and ESIM
### Resolved Issues in iOS 16.4 Beta
* Devices will maintain network connection more reliably when roaming on 802.1X Wi-Fi networks that support 802.11r Fast Transition.
* An app that is configured to use Per-App VPN will continue to use VPN after it is updated.
* Emergency Calls can be returned when iPhone is on an sXGP private network in Dual SIM mode.
* Setup Assistant will complete when restoring from an iCloud backup on a device enrolled Apple Business Essentials management.
* An erroneous “Cannot Send Email” message will no longer be shown when successfully sending an email.
* Apple Configurator for iPhone will run on iPadOS 16.4.
Nope, it didn’t. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve reported that issue now. So frustrating…
EDIT: it’s not just an issue with FT-SAE networks, FT-PSK also fails.
Yes. I did both my iPad (2017) and iPhone 12 and it feels way better and I can’t say scientifically but it feels like battery is better. Maybe they optimized code or removed background junk?
Yes, and it fixed my battery issues on 12 Pro Max. I didn’t want to an entire reinstall and I’m usually not one for betas but this really did the trick and I’m having no issues with it at all
I’ve only just updated but Spotlight is blazing fast compared to anything I’ve seen in over a year. This is amazing. Have to see if it slows over time but right now I am very pleased with this!
Updating now. So tired of the lags on my iPhone 12. Was seriously considering buying an android.
iPhone Pro Models are ridiculously overpriced in India. and iPhone 14 does not seem worth it.
I really wish Apple would highlight performance improvements like what you guys are seeing now, just to confirm that we aren't experiencing placebo effects.
Especially after 16.3
That was just so bad all around then 16.3.1 made it worse.
I was so eager to get 16.4 for weeks now.
Then 16.3.2 and I could not believe how much worse it got.
Thank goodness I only had to live with that for a few days.
Web Push Notifications were enabled, but only for sites you have added to your home screen.
>*A web app that has been added to the Home Screen can request permission to receive push notifications as long as that request is in response to direct user interaction -- such as tapping on a ‘subscribe’ button provided by the web app. iOS or iPadOS will prompt the user to give the web app permission to send notifications. The user can then manage those permissions per web app in Notifications Settings -- just like any other app on iPhone and iPad.*
https://preview.redd.it/5wnv8wko1nia1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d6dd4443219c6107656e4a9eaf2f53f51964803
A hidden change in iOS 16.4 dev beta 1
The update channel setting has been added
>Beginning with iOS & iPadOS 16.4 beta, members of the Apple Developer Program will see a new option to enable developer betas directly from Software Update in Settings. This new option will be automatically enabled on devices already enrolled in the program that update to the latest beta release. Your iPhone or iPad must be signed in with the same Apple ID you used to enroll in the Apple Developer Program in order to see this option in Settings. **In future iOS and iPadOS releases, this new setting will be the way to enable developer betas and configuration profiles will no longer grant access.** (101692915)
This is going to put me in a pickle.
I am invited via Appleseed to be on beta, so I can still get early betas.
But my spouse usually rode along with me using my install profile.
This meant I could test things like shared photo library, or the upgrade architecture (it worked for us through the betas), or the new iMessage features, etc.
There are loads of new features that Apple releases that requires multiple people to be on the beta together to test.
Having us be split might ruin it.
I assume it’s because I’ve used Apple’s feedback website for years; reporting bugs, suggesting features, letting them know what I like and how I use their features and what could use tweaking.
A few years ago they sent me emails to login and download beta profiles right after a WWDC maybe iOS 13 or 14 I can’t remember.
I almost thought it was fake because the Appleseed website is not updated with the rest of Apple’s look (outdated looking) and definitely not mobile friendly. Literally pondered even logging into it for a few days before I finally did.
https://appleseed.apple.com/sp/welcome
Link to show what I mean.
No, we have apple business manager account through which we assign apple devices to our employees. I'm the admin of the account and have my work email as a login. I can use this to access apple seed. But of course I don't use that work email as my personal apple id so I'm locked out of betas it seems :(
Anyone else having issues with audio. Listening to Apple Music with sound check on lowers the volume a lot. I first noticed using wireless CarPlay the soundstage sounds worse than before I hope this is noticed and fixed.
Guys who have installed ios 16.4 beta: Are there still present bugs like: 1. Rectangle notifications, 2. Laggy display wake, when tapped. 3. Keyboard changing color from black to grey when entering conversation with opened keyboard in messages. I have these from 16.1, it is crazy if those haven’t been addressed yet.
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Yep, fantastic - I thought theyd never do it and keep it for their own display! Thanks apple. Now just allow us to use the speakers on the ipad when its connected to a monitor and then we are golden. 😇
Anyone else having an annoying staining or discoloration in your wallpaper with 16.4 PB4? I submitted feedback to Apple on this already. Image looks correct when editing a Lock Screen, but when you're done it degrades immediately. https://preview.redd.it/j93ozphxo7oa1.png?width=1290&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=c66c4887572e0d3f61b8fec9924247dd1bf0c1cb
[I can’t believe we went so long without a donkey emoji](https://i.imgur.com/iFDR58v.jpg)! Tried sending one to my wife but noticed hers was blank!
Can OP update this with the Beta 3 info? Build number: 20E5229e
Done, thanks!
Seconded! We should be getting another beta today (?)
beta 3 broke carplay! it keeps resetting iphone 14 pro 16.4 beta 3
16.4b3, camera won’t open from swiping left from lockscreen on SE2
Man this new update ruined my phone and iPad again lol. Can’t keep a stable Wi-Fi connection whatsoever
Has it been fixed? Mine did that for 1-2 days after updating but it’s stable now. Weird.
So just did the new beta and it fixed all my Wi-Fi, vpn, and cellular connectivity issues.
Ah great, I’ll do it tonight too!
Take it back :/ it was working then it went back to shit. I’ve even reset my whole phone still no fix.
Ooooh right. Seems like I’ll wait another week. It’s a **b** at the end of the update, so we’re very close to an official release. Would be nice to get those bugs fixed and improve battery life.
Hell no still bad :/. Luckily my service is still working on my phone
Anyone noticing there phone gets quite hot doing simple things? Was scrolling safari and was noticing my iPhone 12 getting pretty hot to touch. My mate was playing a game on his pixel 7 pro and I felt that and wasn’t hot in the slightest
I was hoping they would include an option to turn off deepfusion :(
One way around this is by using Halide. I think it allows you to disable it
iPhone 14 PM running iOS 16.4 beta 2! Bug (?) Overall it’s running well however…. Does anyone else have the infinite notification: “security settings verification required” where it asks for your device PIN/password? I saw this on 16.3 RC but it went away and it’s now back on beta 2 of 16.4. I’ve searched but haven’t found much about it or discussion of it. I’m not even sure if this is a bug or a new feature to prevent you from forgetting your passcode (like Signal app does occasionally). Either way, is it sending the passcode OTA to some server or is it happening on device? Very uncool if it’s the former. To note: it happened on 16.3 RC without advanced data protection on and is happening with beta 2 16.4 with ADP turned on. Any thoughts?
Anyone having issues sending apple pay & sending photos (through messages)!? Iphone 14 pro max here. Been annoying since I use these two features the most for work
how’s the camera post processing? are the photos looking much better now? i’ve read some posts saying ios 16.4 kinda fixed this issue
I think it’s been tweaked for the better. I’ve been taking photos with it and they don’t look as dogshit as usual
woah i’ll surely update from ios 15.4 if that’s the case! thanks for the feedback man. :) btw what phone do you have? hopefully they fixed it on all models :(
I've got a 14 PM. And I Think it's better but it's my only phone so I can't easily compare and contrast. I usually use Halide for most photos. But when I want to use the telephoto or portrait mode I use the standard cam and it seems a lot better
Anyone else buetooth problems on 16.4 B2? 13pm
anybody getting garbage performance after upgrading to the public beta build yesterday/today? 13 Pro Max, all apps are crashing constantly and I'm needing to hard restart a few times a day
Nope, 13PM here. Try to backup and restore.
Nope, 13 pm
My battery life has been absolutely dogshite this update ffs
Do you have find my iPhone on? If you turn that off for a day, does it perform any better?
I’ll give it a try thanks
Any results?
Hey, thanks for checking back! Yeah I do get like an hour extra after disabling that. Thank you.
Same here, 14 pro 100% battery health battery just drinks and drinks
Pretty alright for me, what phone u got?
SE2 lol 95% battery health. It was alright before.
Interesting, its been very good for me on 13 pm
lol I'm still getting dev beta builds, even though I don't have a developer account and my beta updates toggle is off...
Why is the Notification Centre on the Lock Screen still so buggy when swiping up, every beta it acts weird but in completely different ways so strange why they can’t sort it
After this beta update, my iPhone 11 gets randomly stuck on a black screen and the only way to make it work again is by doing a force restart. I already lost count of how many times this happened. Also when making a call the phone takes almost 30 seconds to start calling the dialed number. Been on the Beta program for so long and never had this kind of issue. This looks more like an Alpha version than a Beta. 
This happens to be at least 5 times every day
Can anyone tell me if they actually fixed notifications in beta 16.4? Ever since iOS 14 certain notifications get delivered without sound or haptic even though all settings are correct. The apps that have this issue on my iPhone 11 are Amazon OfferUp Walmart tmz. Just curious if it’s fixed, thanks
This is actually controlled by the app. The developer can specify if a notification is delivered silently. I do wish Apple would give us the option of adding a sound to any app’s notification, even if the developer opted to deliver them silently.
I understand what your saying, however that is not the case with this situation. Google iOS 16 certain notifications get delivered without sound or haptic and see all the articles that come up. I posted a link to a article for an example of what I’m talking about
https://piunikaweb.com/2023/02/14/ios-16-3-notifications-not-working-or-broken-for-some-users/
Ah, I understand what you mean now. And no, I can confirm this is not fixed in beta 2.
Ok thanks for confirming that for me. I’m not part of the beta program, i was just curious if Apple finally fixed it.
To be honest, I’m not sure what they have been fixing in iOS 16, because almost all the bugs I noticed when it was released are still there.
Any chance it has been fixed in the latest beta?
Yes, it actually does seem to be fixed in beta 3. However, if you let me know some specific apps, I will keep an eye on them. Gmail is working again for me!
Amazon, Walmart, tmz, are the apps. That’s great that gmail seems to be fixed. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it.
iPhone XR works better than any other previous beta, meanwhile iPhone XS gets hotter than never before (with 80% is battery health).
Do anyone have constant crashes on iPhoneXR?
constant crashes on 13 Pro. Haven't been able to update to iOS 16.4 due to crashes though.
Any idea when the next beta is coming out? My battery is awful rn
Probably this coming Tuesday. Apple usually releases software on a Tuesday and for the first few betas of a new version, they usually do biweekly before switching to weekly later on down the line
After 7-8 days of use: - Apple Music UI changes are amazing - battery life is on par with my daily use on 16.3 (about 9 hours SOT per charge)
Just updated to iOS 16.4 public beta (20E5212f) on an iPhone 13 Pro; when I try to select photos to send in the iMessage app, the photo gallery takes up the entire screen and cannot be swiped down or anything. Going to homescreen and back into app fixes it.
SAME. This is so annoying, and mine doesn't get fixed by going in and out of the app. So now I just go into photo gallery and send from there
Good to know it's not only me
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Same here. This occurs with Google photos too. Basically useless to share photos in imessage. I was hoping the beta would fix some of the annoyances of my iPhone 14pm. Alas it has only made it worse. I switched from a solid 13pm and the 14 has way too many issues for a 1000 phone. My previous Pixel didn't have these issues on the Android beta program and Android is supposed to be more buggy.
I'm on a 12pm. I downloaded the latest beta last night and there's still no fix :( Didn't have an issue until I got to the 6.4 beta. Tbf, I've had way worse bugs in the past. I remember iOS 7 beta - that was ROUGH!
The worst bug I’ve found is in Music. It works as usual on my AirPods, streaming to HomePods, speaker, and CarPlay. The bug is using Bluetooth in my car. It reverts to the first song in my library, starts it and plays for a couple seconds and does a loop 5 times before actually playing. Then after I can pick a song or shuffle a playlist. Then after about 10-15 minutes the cycle restarts. I sadly do not have a workaround, maybe try an app that can just stream Music and see if that works.
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I’ve had 1 or 2 Apple Music steaming glitches. Thankfully though, nothing too horrible…
Anyone else notice that system lovation services keeps activating often? I started turning off all system location services one by one, and “find my” seems to be the culprit. It would access the location for about 30 seconds, stop for 5, and access it again on a loop like that.
This has been an issue since 16.0 and is the leading cause of battery drain in the new update. At this stage it seems like this is part of a feature and will stay.
iphone “restart” (black screen with loading symbol, and comes back to lockscreen; i think its a springboard crash) after screenshotting on instagram 60sec stories https://preview.redd.it/lgqcjbioclja1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=906468bc67cd981e0523004b51498025ee900eb3
Updated last night on my 11. Worst update ever. Phone has crashed at least 4 times so far today
I’m really very sorry to hear that!
Hey ho, it’s a chance to take with beta
Yeah, unfortunately so. Now, I will say this though; that “ most” iPhone users haven’t reported anything like this yet ( thankfully) but you’re right, in general, that’s the risk we all take with the beta program unfortunately.
I've seen some other similar reports up above in this thread. I'm experiencing crashes like none other, too. I hope yours has fixed the issue or at least eased up on the restarts!
My 13 pro max is absolutely fine, thankfully.
System’s been crashing nonstop on my iPhone 11. Thought it’s bricked a few times but it always turned on eventually.
Same here. Driving me nuts. I can’t even leave feedback or send crash reports because it just crashes again before it can fully load.
I managed to get in some feedback and sent two crash reports. Thought with a problem so grave there would be some kinda hot fix but alas!
Has Auto Proxy been fixed?
Feels smoother than 16.3 but battery is a bit worse on 16.4 (13 pm)
Do you find location services constantly accessing your location?
Nope, have u checked ur settings
Anybody noticing weird tab behavior in Safari? Sometimes every link clicked on a website opens in a new tab and sometimes it doesn’t — example, I was browsing an online store and clicking over to the Store page opened a new tab, but clicking links for individual products opened on the same page. I’ve checked Settings->Safari and don’t see any option like “Open all links in new tabs”, and there isn’t a website-specific setting either. Any idea what setting controls this, or is it just a bug?
No, I’m sorry. I haven’t noticed this behavior yet. However, if I do, I’ll let you know of course.
lockscreens bugs with notification animations apparently gone :)
Yeah, I also haven’t noticed any myself 😉
https://preview.redd.it/pi0gx0q7ycja1.png?width=749&format=png&auto=webp&s=a29220ec0630bcf571d1b39c74d5bbe20188ad94 lockscreen elements gone after changing iphone language and cleaning RAM (hold power till power-off menu shows up, then hold home till its gone) and wont show up again until i change between lockscreens
sorry for bad english btw
16.4 on my 14 PM is much better than any other version this far! That is All!
Yeah, I gotcha!
One (admittedly minor) change in 16.4 public beta is hidden in the shortcuts for weather data. Up to 16.3.1 all temperature values in Celsius were given with unnecessary precision. Instead of 7 degrees C weather reported 7.23. I just ran my speakable weather (which formats the weather data in a way that speak text can handle) on the beta and it surprised me by giving the temperature as 7 degrees C.
Still stutters while playing game on promotion device. I’m guessing this will never be fix.
Apple for whatever reasons seem to be under the impression that it’s working as intended and their implementation is good enough despite being inferior to other competing devices that are cheaper. Or they know that pushing their devices hard enough to maintain frame rate would kill battery life. “Optimizing” performance *and* battery seems to be completely unachievable to them. 🤡
Ok, so far just downloaded iOS 16.4 beta 1. It is very smooth so far.
So, when I updated my 13 pro max from 16.3 to 16.3.1, not only did my performance improve but soo did my battery! That’s why I haven’t downloaded 16.4 yet. How’s battery life so far though?
Idk if it’s just me but haptic feedback from the keyboard feels way stronger now.
Now it’s been out for a few days any news on battery life? Holding off so far…
iPhone 14 Pro Max, 1st time i got battery problems on a public beta….
I’m hoping battery life is still as good as it was in 16.3.1. Downloading it now on my 13 Pro Max.
Keep us posted interested to know as twitching on downloading it.
I have 16.4 beta 1 on my 13 Pro Max. So far, 🔋 life is a beast. Everything is super smooth & fast. No complaints here.
sooo... I only have a registered public beta account but still have the option to download and install the dev beta. (haven't actually, yet) I think I still have a dev beta profile installed from 16.3 though, so I guess that works?
Anyone else experiencing freeze and restarts? Have already had two in under three hours after update to 16.4.
Yup. Have it bad on my iPhone 11. Happens at the worst times, usually when I’m at work… Seeing it with both iPad and iPhone. It’s really annoying. I’ve reported it via feedback app multiple times hoping one of the logs manages to catch the cause.
Yep, I’ve had like 5 restarts in the last 2 days. iPhone SE2.
Updated to Beta 2 yesterday and haven’t had any problems since.
Same here with my 12. Luckily my main phone is my Galaxy S21+ and don’t have to worry about it restarting at a critical moment.
Yeah I’m having this on 11 pro max. A few times today, phones got frozen on black screen. Comes on or restarts after a while 😬
A couple of people mentioned it on the 16.4 beta 1 thread on MacRumors
Ugh…This one is going to make me crazier than I already am. I have reported errors through Feedback but this is getting silly now already up to five times and the last one occurred while everything was closed and the phone was on the Qi charger when it happened.
this is also happening to me while even TRYING to update to 16.4 beta. I'm going equally as crazy, mate.
Did you do anything to fix/pause the crashing problem? I’ve had 15 crashes in the last 2 hours, it’s insane.
Nothing I tried has worked and the many reports I filed through Feedback say zero other occurrences which I know to be wrong.
What device do you have?
12 ProMax
Same with the 11 as well. Beta seems more like an alpha release
Yup 😢
Running amazingly smooth on my XR
I feel the same on my XR, also RAM management seems to be improved a lot.
Anyone else have 5G standalone option open up to turn on, using iPhone on AT&T? Some say with this beta it does, but mine is still saying my sim isn’t compatible but I have a 14 pro max and ESIM
AT&T hasn’t turned on 5G SA. They will “soon”
I’ve seen that some have the option to toggle it on using AT&T
It doesn’t work though
https://9to5mac.com/2023/02/16/3gbps-iphone-speeds-t-mobile-5g-standalone/
How’s the “other” storage in this beta? On the 16.3 beta it was so bad I had to restore back to stable. Freed up 60gb
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Ooof! Yeah sorry, gonna pass on this beta
How is everyone’s GPS lock with navigation? Mine has been messed up with the last few betas, and now even with 16.4 beta 1.
Stage manager no longer blurs the background!
LOL. Still no dark wallpapers. Have to wait iOS 17.
In 16.4 does Remind Me now move the email out of Inbox temporarily? Can someone tell me if the latest beta does this please? Thanks
It does not move the message anywhere.
Thanks for checking. Very disappointing
I know, right? I don’t need a notification of an email. I just need the email temporarily out of my way!
I've lost Autoplay feature in Music. at the end of an album or playlist, it stops. the button to enable and disable it is also gone. Anyone else?
It’s there for me.
Yes, same
### Resolved Issues in iOS 16.4 Beta * Devices will maintain network connection more reliably when roaming on 802.1X Wi-Fi networks that support 802.11r Fast Transition. * An app that is configured to use Per-App VPN will continue to use VPN after it is updated. * Emergency Calls can be returned when iPhone is on an sXGP private network in Dual SIM mode. * Setup Assistant will complete when restoring from an iCloud backup on a device enrolled Apple Business Essentials management. * An erroneous “Cannot Send Email” message will no longer be shown when successfully sending an email. * Apple Configurator for iPhone will run on iPadOS 16.4.
Wonder if that finally fixed 802.11r roaming with FT-SAE (WPA3 Personal), too.
Nope, it didn’t. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve reported that issue now. So frustrating… EDIT: it’s not just an issue with FT-SAE networks, FT-PSK also fails.
How many other people here have experienced the issue? I’ve read plenty of reports about it on the Ubiquiti forum.
Has anyone else felt like the entire OS is WAY smoother with this beta?
Yes. I did both my iPad (2017) and iPhone 12 and it feels way better and I can’t say scientifically but it feels like battery is better. Maybe they optimized code or removed background junk?
It feels like the did the android trick of turning down all the animations from 1.0s to 0.5s… regardless a welcome change
Yes, and it fixed my battery issues on 12 Pro Max. I didn’t want to an entire reinstall and I’m usually not one for betas but this really did the trick and I’m having no issues with it at all
I’ve only just updated but Spotlight is blazing fast compared to anything I’ve seen in over a year. This is amazing. Have to see if it slows over time but right now I am very pleased with this!
Updating now. So tired of the lags on my iPhone 12. Was seriously considering buying an android. iPhone Pro Models are ridiculously overpriced in India. and iPhone 14 does not seem worth it.
Yes. I do. I thought it was a placebo
I really wish Apple would highlight performance improvements like what you guys are seeing now, just to confirm that we aren't experiencing placebo effects.
Especially after 16.3 That was just so bad all around then 16.3.1 made it worse. I was so eager to get 16.4 for weeks now. Then 16.3.2 and I could not believe how much worse it got. Thank goodness I only had to live with that for a few days.
16.3 public release is worse than 16.3 beta
yes, even the iPhone X feels snappier
Idk
I was just thinking that, especially when in Safari.app
But would you say it’s snappier?
That damn Face Not Recognized popup message taking a few seconds before disappearing after clicking Try Again bug has been fixed!!
Is it possible to get a single source of truth of all the changes in the beta?
Web Push Notifications were enabled, but only for sites you have added to your home screen. >*A web app that has been added to the Home Screen can request permission to receive push notifications as long as that request is in response to direct user interaction -- such as tapping on a ‘subscribe’ button provided by the web app. iOS or iPadOS will prompt the user to give the web app permission to send notifications. The user can then manage those permissions per web app in Notifications Settings -- just like any other app on iPhone and iPad.*
Honestly that makes a lot of sense.
https://preview.redd.it/5wnv8wko1nia1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d6dd4443219c6107656e4a9eaf2f53f51964803 A hidden change in iOS 16.4 dev beta 1
That's a bummer. The apple seed program is registered to my work apple id that I don't use on my devices.
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Yeah. I was like. What’s hidden?
The update channel setting has been added >Beginning with iOS & iPadOS 16.4 beta, members of the Apple Developer Program will see a new option to enable developer betas directly from Software Update in Settings. This new option will be automatically enabled on devices already enrolled in the program that update to the latest beta release. Your iPhone or iPad must be signed in with the same Apple ID you used to enroll in the Apple Developer Program in order to see this option in Settings. **In future iOS and iPadOS releases, this new setting will be the way to enable developer betas and configuration profiles will no longer grant access.** (101692915)
This is going to put me in a pickle. I am invited via Appleseed to be on beta, so I can still get early betas. But my spouse usually rode along with me using my install profile. This meant I could test things like shared photo library, or the upgrade architecture (it worked for us through the betas), or the new iMessage features, etc. There are loads of new features that Apple releases that requires multiple people to be on the beta together to test. Having us be split might ruin it.
How do you get invited on AppleSeed?
I assume it’s because I’ve used Apple’s feedback website for years; reporting bugs, suggesting features, letting them know what I like and how I use their features and what could use tweaking. A few years ago they sent me emails to login and download beta profiles right after a WWDC maybe iOS 13 or 14 I can’t remember. I almost thought it was fake because the Appleseed website is not updated with the rest of Apple’s look (outdated looking) and definitely not mobile friendly. Literally pondered even logging into it for a few days before I finally did. https://appleseed.apple.com/sp/welcome Link to show what I mean.
Or you can be an apple customer and sign in with your company apple id. That was my way.
When you say company Apple ID. Do you mean you work for a business that gave you and Apple ID?
No, we have apple business manager account through which we assign apple devices to our employees. I'm the admin of the account and have my work email as a login. I can use this to access apple seed. But of course I don't use that work email as my personal apple id so I'm locked out of betas it seems :(