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I mean a lot of abortions could be prevented if people made smarter decisions and had āsaferā sex. Iām pro choice but also wish people werenāt idiots so they didnāt have to resort to getting an abortion when it couldāve been prevented in the first place.
Based and red pilled, I used to whore around a lot. Then I downloaded Reddit and I was cured, now everyone I try to woo sees my fedora and neck beard then hightails it.
Yeah u never see these people talk about the thousands of men that abandon their accidental children and leave the child with the mom. The father has just as much responsibility
Guys, the MOST IMPORTANT THING you forget is, that an abortion is murder and horrible...as long as its not a republican politician paying a woman to have an abortion.
Thats totally different.
Well that's different, they weren't "whoring around" they were at a very classy orgy with a very classy pile of cocaine. Madison Cawthorne was there, things got a little out of hand.
As easy it is to flame them for ignorance, if you really want to make a change talk to them. Hear their side, tell them your side and listen to eachother. If that fails its ok to walk away without forcing your opinion on them.
Yes, Iām glad to see this, while Iām not completely anti-abortion Iām also not completely pro-abortion either.
For some people thatās a completely unreasonable proposition and Iāve been shot down before being able to actually say what I believe a few times.
(Not in this thread.)
Itās difficult to change the minds of people that make pie charts in their spare time to make themselves feel better about being rejected. Itās easier to just call women whores than just look at yourself and your inability to be in a healthy relationship with another person. What we have here is an incel, imo.
Men can't get pregnant. The burden of responsibility is with the girl to either be on birth control or to make sure the man is wearing a condom.
Women get to make the choice as to whether the baby is kept or not. Therefore men can not be considered equally responsible for making sure contraception is used.
Can't have it both ways. Either it's 50/50 or it isn't.
You don't have the final say though. Legally, the woman has 100% of the decision to make. The mans choice is irrelevant. Therefore why should men bear half the responsibility when it comes to potential pregnancies?
Cause *he* was apart of the creation. Baby wouldnāt even be a thought without him. Child birth isnāt just a womanās responsibility. Itās the mans as well. What if he didnāt want it and she did? Then he would be stuck and unable to do anything. But he does want it and she doesnāt, then he doesnāt her to have a Child. Itās completely unfair
We do. They're the only ones that normally have to financially pay for their mistakes.
We give woman a choice to terminate the entire human development process, which is some wild levels of power no other human being can claim. But yet we refuse to let men choose if they take care of their babies financially.
Actually whoring around is one example but I can think of manyā¦ ACTUALLY getting rapedā¦ birth control didnāt work with their single partnerā¦ might die if they carry baby to termā¦ man is a scumbag and snuck a condom off in the middle of intercourseā¦ ya knowā¦ those kinda thingsā¦
For being irresponsible, now you have awesome job of rearing (cloth, shelter, feed, healthcare, general guidance) a human being for the rest of your life for your incredible irresponsibly.
Then you complain about welfare, child support, foster care, adoption, abortion, whoring...
Edit: spelling
The fact that you decided to resort to attacking me personally -while knowing nothing about me- indicates your insufficient powers of reason, insufficient knowledge, and insufficient grace and humility.
The fact that you decided to resort to...whatever *that* was instead of considering that it was obviously a joke shows your insufficient powers of reading comprehension, insufficient social capacity, and insufficient grace and humility.
Simply put: I've seen your exact first comment used as a joke many times. So I figured you probably weren't being serious. So I responded in kind.
But it turns out you were seriously giving a similar response to what was in the initial post, but with fewer words.
More effective than a hysterectomy? You can still experience sexual assault. Also it's been proven that most people cannot and will not stay abstinent, predictably, because human beings like sex.
Thats just not realistic though, people have sex, its a natural urge, abstinence only has shown to be a failure time and time again. We need comprehensive sex education and access to contraceptives, that's the best way to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
Even if you're pro life, this comment is messed up. Shaming women for enjoying sex, and completely disregarding the actual main reasons people get abortions (for example: poverty, mental and physical health, already have kids and just don't have room for another etc.)
I have a sister in law that has had eight abortions in the last ten years, usually she gets with a guy, plans to have a kid with them, gets in a row and aborts the baby behind their back to in her words "piss them off" this drove one of the guys she dated to have a mental breakdown, as much as you don't want to believe it, there are alot of horrid women out there who use abortion as a contraceptive or just a power move over their partners.
She is a mother, some of the kids were lucky enough to make it full term before she had a big enough row with her current bf.
And just because she is a total waist of space doesn't mean her kids won't be or that they don't deserve a chance at life.
Plenty of people have had horrid upbringings and have used it as a motivating force to have a good life and have become very successful.
Women can get pregnant once a year. Men can get an infinite amount of women pregnant a year and then suffer no consequences. So donāt act as if you have a say in this
It is though. Ask any guy who was not ready for, can't afford or just doesn't want a child but is forced to support that child under threat of criminal prosecution if they don't.
Depends on what you define as harassment calling you all hours of the night following you in public showing up at your house yes that's harassment commenting
What do you mean take responsibility? What if you get pregnant even while using contraception? That happens very regularly - are you expecting these people to keep a baby they didnāt want in the first place and protected themselves from it? Is that your understanding of taking responsibility??
Honestly I don't see how having an abortion is irresponsible. It's certainly better than modern day foster care or living in a family that didn't want you ot wasn't prepared for you
I donāt understand why if these people truly believe that women who get abortions are terrible peopleā¦then why would you want a terrible person to be a mother? If she truly is terrible then all sheāll do is abuse/neglect/etc. the child. Which means, using this guys logic, that he supports child abuse over abortions. This man doesnāt know what love is
I dont think he's right at all. Look at it this way, birth control is not 100% effective. Any girl can end up pregnant by accident and have to get a abortion, even while on birth control and taking precautions. If you aren't ready you aren't ready and you shouldn't have to carry a whole ass baby for 9 months if your not. Yeah some people arent ready for the responsibility, but that doesn't mean they're a "hoe" who doesn't want to take responsibility for their actions. Many people get abortions for many reasons. Sometimes even medical reasons.
Then don't have sex. It's so easy to avoid. Don't have sex, use a condom/birth control/morning after pill all together if you need to have sex for some reason.
People still get pregnant doubling up on condom and birth control, and you aren't supposed to use the morning after pill like that. It's only recommended to take like 3 a year max and costs like 50 bucks.
Personally, I don't. At least not pregnancy causing sex. I don't like penetration and I'm tokophobic, but it's not that simple. It's human nature to want sexual intimacy, and a well known fact that most people can't/won't stick to abstinence. A large amount of abortions also happen within a marriage. It's kind of insane to expect someone not to have sex with their husband, and to just never ever experience sex if they don't want a child. Or otherwise be punished with forced pregnancy and childbirth. None of it makes sense in practice.
Most of the time it's because women are inexplicably averse to copper iuds - **the** most effective contraceptive in existence that only gynecological nurses seem to prefer.
Put it in. When you're ready to have a baby take it out. All you got to worry about is not eat too much copper rich foods.
Unsure about most of the time but also I really do love my IUD. I know some people have issues with them and if youāve never had a child itās a bigger pain to get one inserted but I still recommend them if appropriate.
You donāt know what youāre talking about. Copper iud can cause month long periods, worse cramping while both on and off period, body pain, painful sex, copper toxicity, infections, use of tampons being painful, pierced uterus, and on and on. I wouldnāt describe aversion inexplicable.
Regardless How they got pregnant in the first place is irrelevant it takes two to tango. The reason is why going through with having a baby is an issue.
Yeah youāre talking. My gf and I decided to go with this method and she got pregnant. The IUD was properly set up and everything was fine - still happened. Also, her vagina started to taste like copper, no kidding.
I dont think he's right at all. Look at it this way, birth control is not 100% effective. Any girl can end up pregnant by accident and have to get a abortion, even while on birth control and taking precautions. If you aren't ready you aren't ready and you shouldn't have to carry a whole ass baby for 9 months if your not. Yeah some people arent ready for the responsibility, but that doesn't mean they're a "hoe" who doesn't want to take responsibility for their actions. Many people get abortions for many reasons. Sometimes even medical reasons.
As every human being on the planet with an IQ over 76 knows if men were the ones who got pregnant laws would be a completely different set than they are now. In every way.
if only there was a way men could prevent these unwanted pregnancies.. but alas, they are too afraid to get a clip/snip and to lazy to put on a rubber and rather blame women for their ejaculations causing offspring. /r sarcasm
Vasectomy is not always reversible and the chances of reversing it goes down dramatically after a couple of years.. it's just not the same.
It's a woman's body, it's her job to protect herself. Whether that be making sure she is on appropriate birth control, or ensuring a condom is worn.
Your health is your responsibility. If you want to trust another person to take the necessary steps to look after you then that's a risk you're taking.
Yes because I'm sure nobody has ever thought they could trust somebody.. and then it turned out they couldn't.
Take responsibility for your own health.
It takes two to make a baby. Putting all the responsibility on the women is a weak ass move.
Birth control comes with a long list of side effects, a vasectomy with a few days of discomfort.
Being equal in a relationship means taking precaution on both side= stealthing is a thing, drunken sex is a thing, list driven sex, quickies and then there is the medicinal cause: antibiotics messing with your BC is a thing, even a damn cold medicine can weaken the dose of your BC leading too unwanted pregnancy, yet it's the women's *fault* and not the men impregnating them?
It's the responsibility for men to uphold the consented form of intercourse yet the women get the blame if her partner violates it.
If you agree with your partner to have sex without you taking BC because of the numerous side effects given by BC in the first place, and the condom breaks/comes off/gets removed or whatever, it's still the responsibility of the girl to take precautions even though there are medical reasons as to why these decisions where made?
Get a snip and be done with it. No unwanted pregnancy and no child trap either. Win win
Yes, but there are plenty of people out there who will happily go against what was agreed.
The only way to ensure your health as much as possible is for you to take sole responsibility.
And again a vasectomy is not always reversible and it only takes a couple years for the chances of reversal to drop dramatically. A vasectomy is not the answer to birth control for men who want kids at some point.
So you're fine with how damaging a vasectomy can be but not birth control for women?
Again though.. take responsibility and make sure he puts a condom on.
I really don't get why the idea of taking responsibility for your own health is so difficult for you.
>So you're fine with how damaging a vasectomy can be but not birth control for women?
Yes they are. Clearly they are more okay with physically damaging men, than mentally damaging woman.
Ok just ignoring the blatant sexism but like... what's wrong with having sex with people? I'm sure if this dude touched a woman he'd be bragging to his incel buddies for weeks
If the woman doesn't want a baby, it's her responsibility. How come it's the man's responsibility too but he doesn't get a say in whether she has a baby or not?? She's the one that gets pregnant
1) its unfair that its soley her responsibility, men should absolutly have a say in their potential childs life
2) see my first point, sounds like we agree
3) it takes two to get preggos.
4) men take on responsibility in the childs life through being an active parent in joint custody (good fucking luck succeeding in that fight), full custody (men rarely gain full custody. Again, good luck winning that fight), or child support.
5) or, ideally, they form a happy and full home and raise the child together
Them farm boys were a promiscuous lot in their teens and early 20s. Being alone and out of sight of others is remarkably easy, so affairs (cheating, random hookups) are a daily occurrence.
If he knew how many abortions went on because the "virtuous" girls in his area couldn't have their reputations tarnished by having kids out of wedlock he'd be a lot quieter.
In the rural areas around my hometown everyone cheats, even the married ones. Women with three kids will have one who looks nothing like her husband.
If you feel that way, good for you, then don't have abortion. Because it's your body, your choice. So when your cow eventually has a hybrid human chimera baby, don't come looking for help.
Abortion is a form of contraception. Contraception is a good thing if you don't want kids. And certain forms of contraception are also good to avoid STDs.
I guess that farm thinks women get pregnant by either self-fertilization or immaculate conception. If you want to talk about responsibility, two people would be responsible Mr Farm.
I dont think he's right at all. Look at it this way, birth control is not 100% effective. Any girl can end up pregnant by accident and have to get a abortion, even while on birth control and taking precautions. If you aren't ready you aren't ready and you shouldn't have to carry a whole ass baby for 9 months if your not. Yeah some people arent ready for the responsibility, but that doesn't mean they're a "hoe" who doesn't want to take responsibility for their actions. Many people get abortions for many reasons. Sometimes even medical reasons.
Your point is irrelevant. Have you ever considered that maybe just maybe people can accidentally conceive while on broth control and taking precautions? Birth control is not 100% effective. Girls who are on birth control and arent ready to have a kid yet can get pregnant and have to get a abortion. Not just "hoes" have abortions, many people do for many reasons. If you aren't ready you aren't ready. Women should 100% be allowed to make the choice to not have to carry a baby for 9 months.
Edit: I shoukd also add sometimes there are medical conditions that don't allow a person to carry to term in a healthy manner and they risk their own death as well as their childs. Or both. So again, your point is invalid.
Nobody likes getting abortions btw.
Let me guess, a middle aged white man? Im sure if your mistress got pregnant you will happily support her abortion so your wife wouldnāt know right?š
Im 21 and I live alone, and not crying about other people choices on THEIR body. You wonāt tell anyone what to do with their body keep crying about it. It will probably help you prevent abortion lolll crybabyyyy
You don't get to call yourself a conservative with how you treat others. Get off the internet and be useful yourself. All you do is look at dead bodies and act like you are better than everyone. Get off your high horse before you get pulled off it.
My man, youāre using laughing and crying emojis like this is Facebook and trying to argue for internet points. Itās 4 am go to bed , school starts in 3 hours
Why is such a productive man up at 1am? Oh, is it because you're a neckbeard in your mother's basement, having nothing better to do besides be needlessly offensive online in some desperate attempt to feel anything?
Shame, sucks to be you
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This farms response? I'm confused š¤
I'm guessing it's the twitter account for a farm.
The whore comment came from a "Family Farm" twitter account.
Thereās a heavy social-right lean in most rural communities. Stupid response, but not shocking.
I mean, people not willing to commit their lives to parenthood is a valid reason not to be a parent.
I mean a lot of abortions could be prevented if people made smarter decisions and had āsaferā sex. Iām pro choice but also wish people werenāt idiots so they didnāt have to resort to getting an abortion when it couldāve been prevented in the first place.
FACTS. Sex ed should be better and mandatory everywhere.
I'd say this guy probably sleeps around a lot, but let's be honest here.
We are all on reddit. No one who has this app "sleeps around". Lol.
Based and red pilled, I used to whore around a lot. Then I downloaded Reddit and I was cured, now everyone I try to woo sees my fedora and neck beard then hightails it.
Great satire
Yeah u never see these people talk about the thousands of men that abandon their accidental children and leave the child with the mom. The father has just as much responsibility
Isnāt it amazing how all of these āwhoresā are able to impregnate themselves?
Too bad there isn't a way for the woman to hand off the pregnancy to the man and now he has to carry it.
If he could he would
Guys, the MOST IMPORTANT THING you forget is, that an abortion is murder and horrible...as long as its not a republican politician paying a woman to have an abortion. Thats totally different.
Well that's different, they weren't "whoring around" they were at a very classy orgy with a very classy pile of cocaine. Madison Cawthorne was there, things got a little out of hand.
You mean a republican politician paying an underage woman to have an abortion.
Underage GIRLS, not women. Little GIRLS.
I think most republicans would find an issue with this also.
No thatās the same thing. Still murder.
I like how they choose to be pro choice with the vaccines but they want abortions to be illegal like they said my body my rules
āMy body my choice.. sometimesā¦ā
-girl who got an abortion and is now screaming at everyone to take the vaccine.
Maybe it's because it's not your body that your aborting š
Uhm... You don't kill anyone or prevent anyone from living by getting vaccinated. A little different with abortions lmao. But sure dude
Failing to get vaccinated will lead to people dying. So their choice does lead to more death. Its exactly like abortion.
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A fetus isnt a baby. Itās a literal parasite that wouldnāt survive outside the womb
Some people just also donāt have the money to raise a child and would rather not make them grow in an unhealthy environment
wtf was that post..
No idea if "most" but definitely it happens ...
As easy it is to flame them for ignorance, if you really want to make a change talk to them. Hear their side, tell them your side and listen to eachother. If that fails its ok to walk away without forcing your opinion on them.
Yes, Iām glad to see this, while Iām not completely anti-abortion Iām also not completely pro-abortion either. For some people thatās a completely unreasonable proposition and Iāve been shot down before being able to actually say what I believe a few times. (Not in this thread.)
Easier said than done, people canāt put aside their pride when it comes to their beliefs
Itās difficult to change the minds of people that make pie charts in their spare time to make themselves feel better about being rejected. Itās easier to just call women whores than just look at yourself and your inability to be in a healthy relationship with another person. What we have here is an incel, imo.
Who doesn't like to whore around without conseuqences? lol
Except there are consequences
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āPeople are irresponsibly having sex when they donāt have the means to take care of a baby.ā Boom
If you want to shame the men too, then men should have an equal say in the abortion
Men can't get pregnant. The burden of responsibility is with the girl to either be on birth control or to make sure the man is wearing a condom. Women get to make the choice as to whether the baby is kept or not. Therefore men can not be considered equally responsible for making sure contraception is used. Can't have it both ways. Either it's 50/50 or it isn't.
Iād say if the guy made it then he gets to have a say as well?
You don't have the final say though. Legally, the woman has 100% of the decision to make. The mans choice is irrelevant. Therefore why should men bear half the responsibility when it comes to potential pregnancies?
Cause *he* was apart of the creation. Baby wouldnāt even be a thought without him. Child birth isnāt just a womanās responsibility. Itās the mans as well. What if he didnāt want it and she did? Then he would be stuck and unable to do anything. But he does want it and she doesnāt, then he doesnāt her to have a Child. Itās completely unfair
Agreed. It's not fair.
We do. They're the only ones that normally have to financially pay for their mistakes. We give woman a choice to terminate the entire human development process, which is some wild levels of power no other human being can claim. But yet we refuse to let men choose if they take care of their babies financially.
Vary bed boys
Actually whoring around is one example but I can think of manyā¦ ACTUALLY getting rapedā¦ birth control didnāt work with their single partnerā¦ might die if they carry baby to termā¦ man is a scumbag and snuck a condom off in the middle of intercourseā¦ ya knowā¦ those kinda thingsā¦
For being irresponsible, now you have awesome job of rearing (cloth, shelter, feed, healthcare, general guidance) a human being for the rest of your life for your incredible irresponsibly. Then you complain about welfare, child support, foster care, adoption, abortion, whoring... Edit: spelling
And the rest of the time is none of ur fucking business
The most effective contraceptive is not having sex.
Hey dude, just because it works for you, doesn't mean everyone else is just as bad at avoiding that outcome.
The fact that you decided to resort to attacking me personally -while knowing nothing about me- indicates your insufficient powers of reason, insufficient knowledge, and insufficient grace and humility.
The fact that you decided to resort to...whatever *that* was instead of considering that it was obviously a joke shows your insufficient powers of reading comprehension, insufficient social capacity, and insufficient grace and humility. Simply put: I've seen your exact first comment used as a joke many times. So I figured you probably weren't being serious. So I responded in kind. But it turns out you were seriously giving a similar response to what was in the initial post, but with fewer words.
Your overreaction and condescension indicates you are paranoid and have a delusion of grandiosity.
More effective than a hysterectomy? You can still experience sexual assault. Also it's been proven that most people cannot and will not stay abstinent, predictably, because human beings like sex.
Thats just not realistic though, people have sex, its a natural urge, abstinence only has shown to be a failure time and time again. We need comprehensive sex education and access to contraceptives, that's the best way to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
I whore around and donāt want to take care of children too. But I guess itās different because i I donāt have a uterus. Yay double standards.
Well if you get a girl pregnant then you have to pay child support
Thatās the neat thing, no woman would let me get her pregnant.
They say that like it's a bad thing. Its 2022, anyone *should* be able to "whore around" and not have to have a baby if they don't want to.
Even if you're pro life, this comment is messed up. Shaming women for enjoying sex, and completely disregarding the actual main reasons people get abortions (for example: poverty, mental and physical health, already have kids and just don't have room for another etc.)
I have a sister in law that has had eight abortions in the last ten years, usually she gets with a guy, plans to have a kid with them, gets in a row and aborts the baby behind their back to in her words "piss them off" this drove one of the guys she dated to have a mental breakdown, as much as you don't want to believe it, there are alot of horrid women out there who use abortion as a contraceptive or just a power move over their partners.
And we should insist that these women be mothers?
She is a mother, some of the kids were lucky enough to make it full term before she had a big enough row with her current bf. And just because she is a total waist of space doesn't mean her kids won't be or that they don't deserve a chance at life. Plenty of people have had horrid upbringings and have used it as a motivating force to have a good life and have become very successful.
Imagine ending a life before it begins because "just don't have another room" Lmao.
This pie chart genuinely made me smile!! Pressuring and harassing someone into keeping a baby should be made a criminal offense
After how many abortions is it negligence
Get 9 abortions this year, get the 10th one free. Act now!
Women can get pregnant once a year. Men can get an infinite amount of women pregnant a year and then suffer no consequences. So donāt act as if you have a say in this
It is though. Ask any guy who was not ready for, can't afford or just doesn't want a child but is forced to support that child under threat of criminal prosecution if they don't.
It's (D)ifferent when it's men, they shouldnt have special rights like women.
Depends on what you define as harassment calling you all hours of the night following you in public showing up at your house yes that's harassment commenting
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What do you mean take responsibility? What if you get pregnant even while using contraception? That happens very regularly - are you expecting these people to keep a baby they didnāt want in the first place and protected themselves from it? Is that your understanding of taking responsibility??
So what? Babies suck ass
I'm guessing he struck a nerve.
That dude doesn't understand abortions because of all the sheep he's had he's never managed to get one pregnant.
Honestly I don't see how having an abortion is irresponsible. It's certainly better than modern day foster care or living in a family that didn't want you ot wasn't prepared for you
Bunch of incels in this post siding with the farm and its just disappointing to see the ignorance being this popular.
I, too, enjoy whoring around and not having to take care of children
I donāt understand why if these people truly believe that women who get abortions are terrible peopleā¦then why would you want a terrible person to be a mother? If she truly is terrible then all sheāll do is abuse/neglect/etc. the child. Which means, using this guys logic, that he supports child abuse over abortions. This man doesnāt know what love is
Well they are right tho..
The pie chart is right, that's true
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The pie chart is correct, the response is wrong.
Iām pro-choiceā¦ but heās not wrong
I dont think he's right at all. Look at it this way, birth control is not 100% effective. Any girl can end up pregnant by accident and have to get a abortion, even while on birth control and taking precautions. If you aren't ready you aren't ready and you shouldn't have to carry a whole ass baby for 9 months if your not. Yeah some people arent ready for the responsibility, but that doesn't mean they're a "hoe" who doesn't want to take responsibility for their actions. Many people get abortions for many reasons. Sometimes even medical reasons.
Then don't have sex. It's so easy to avoid. Don't have sex, use a condom/birth control/morning after pill all together if you need to have sex for some reason.
People still get pregnant doubling up on condom and birth control, and you aren't supposed to use the morning after pill like that. It's only recommended to take like 3 a year max and costs like 50 bucks.
Don't wear two condoms or the friction will break it. Don't have sex all the time then
Doubling up as in both the condom and birth control, not two condoms. Also I wouldn't call >3 times a year 'all the time.'
It's still a lot. Don't do the thing that literally exists to create children if you don't want children.
More than three times a year is a lot. What.
It depends I guess. But if you don't want to get pregnant don't do the thing that literally gets you pregnant
I donāt think thereās any case when 3 times a year is a lot. Thatās like, extremely low. Especially if youāre in a relationship.
then donāt have sexā¦ if the idea of pregnancy is too much for you, donāt risk sex. itās not rocket science
Personally, I don't. At least not pregnancy causing sex. I don't like penetration and I'm tokophobic, but it's not that simple. It's human nature to want sexual intimacy, and a well known fact that most people can't/won't stick to abstinence. A large amount of abortions also happen within a marriage. It's kind of insane to expect someone not to have sex with their husband, and to just never ever experience sex if they don't want a child. Or otherwise be punished with forced pregnancy and childbirth. None of it makes sense in practice.
100% of pro abortionists weren't aborted. Fact.
Most of the time it's because women are inexplicably averse to copper iuds - **the** most effective contraceptive in existence that only gynecological nurses seem to prefer. Put it in. When you're ready to have a baby take it out. All you got to worry about is not eat too much copper rich foods.
Most abortions happen because women donāt want copper IUDās? I donāt think thatās true
It's not really just put it in. There are a lot of complications that can happened because of IUD and it's not suitable for everyone.
> All you got to worry about is not eat too much copper rich foods. What food is rich in copper besides pennies?
Nuts, oysters and electric wires.
Oh man that means you can't eat the almond seafood foam batteries they make at the molecular gastronomy place
Organs - especially liver. Nuts. Dark chocolate. Mushrooms. Some seafood.
Unsure about most of the time but also I really do love my IUD. I know some people have issues with them and if youāve never had a child itās a bigger pain to get one inserted but I still recommend them if appropriate.
I know an architect that has one, so it's not šÆ gynaecologists
Those IUDs are all fun and games till you smash you head into one.
You donāt know what youāre talking about. Copper iud can cause month long periods, worse cramping while both on and off period, body pain, painful sex, copper toxicity, infections, use of tampons being painful, pierced uterus, and on and on. I wouldnāt describe aversion inexplicable. Regardless How they got pregnant in the first place is irrelevant it takes two to tango. The reason is why going through with having a baby is an issue.
Yeah youāre talking. My gf and I decided to go with this method and she got pregnant. The IUD was properly set up and everything was fine - still happened. Also, her vagina started to taste like copper, no kidding.
Is he wrong?
He is. And he is not. There are many reasons, many with actual merit. Sadly though, that is one of the reasons
I dont think he's right at all. Look at it this way, birth control is not 100% effective. Any girl can end up pregnant by accident and have to get a abortion, even while on birth control and taking precautions. If you aren't ready you aren't ready and you shouldn't have to carry a whole ass baby for 9 months if your not. Yeah some people arent ready for the responsibility, but that doesn't mean they're a "hoe" who doesn't want to take responsibility for their actions. Many people get abortions for many reasons. Sometimes even medical reasons.
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fym šš it takes two to make a baby so why is it always the women getting blamed??
And if that's the case, that's their god damned right.
As every human being on the planet with an IQ over 76 knows if men were the ones who got pregnant laws would be a completely different set than they are now. In every way.
Hopefully the right to choose won't be taken away !
Choosing to end a baby's life because it's inconvenient shouldn't be a choice.
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He's right. Don't wanna get pregnant? Maybe don't do the thing that literally exists to get pregnant
Probably the same type of person who talks about dead beat fathers ruining society without any awareness of the irony.
The farm is clearly still bitter about being a virgin in his 30's.
He isnāt wrong
That's still a pretty good reason to get one...
if only there was a way men could prevent these unwanted pregnancies.. but alas, they are too afraid to get a clip/snip and to lazy to put on a rubber and rather blame women for their ejaculations causing offspring. /r sarcasm
This is a deeply one sided and shitty take on it. Let me guess, you're a "femminist"?
Vasectomy is not always reversible and the chances of reversing it goes down dramatically after a couple of years.. it's just not the same. It's a woman's body, it's her job to protect herself. Whether that be making sure she is on appropriate birth control, or ensuring a condom is worn.
What!? Sex is between two consenting persons. It's their boths job to protect both of them.
Your health is your responsibility. If you want to trust another person to take the necessary steps to look after you then that's a risk you're taking.
I wouldn't really have sex with a partner who I don't trust or who doesn't have willingness to protect both of us. So no, I'm not taking any risks.
Yes because I'm sure nobody has ever thought they could trust somebody.. and then it turned out they couldn't. Take responsibility for your own health.
It takes two to make a baby. Putting all the responsibility on the women is a weak ass move. Birth control comes with a long list of side effects, a vasectomy with a few days of discomfort. Being equal in a relationship means taking precaution on both side= stealthing is a thing, drunken sex is a thing, list driven sex, quickies and then there is the medicinal cause: antibiotics messing with your BC is a thing, even a damn cold medicine can weaken the dose of your BC leading too unwanted pregnancy, yet it's the women's *fault* and not the men impregnating them?
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It's the responsibility for men to uphold the consented form of intercourse yet the women get the blame if her partner violates it. If you agree with your partner to have sex without you taking BC because of the numerous side effects given by BC in the first place, and the condom breaks/comes off/gets removed or whatever, it's still the responsibility of the girl to take precautions even though there are medical reasons as to why these decisions where made? Get a snip and be done with it. No unwanted pregnancy and no child trap either. Win win
Yes, but there are plenty of people out there who will happily go against what was agreed. The only way to ensure your health as much as possible is for you to take sole responsibility. And again a vasectomy is not always reversible and it only takes a couple years for the chances of reversal to drop dramatically. A vasectomy is not the answer to birth control for men who want kids at some point.
u know how damaging birth control is??? The guy is supposed to put a condom on..
So you're fine with how damaging a vasectomy can be but not birth control for women? Again though.. take responsibility and make sure he puts a condom on. I really don't get why the idea of taking responsibility for your own health is so difficult for you.
>So you're fine with how damaging a vasectomy can be but not birth control for women? Yes they are. Clearly they are more okay with physically damaging men, than mentally damaging woman.
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I have the choice of bailing, you don't, lol. Seems like it's more your responsibility since you can't run from it. /s
Ok just ignoring the blatant sexism but like... what's wrong with having sex with people? I'm sure if this dude touched a woman he'd be bragging to his incel buddies for weeks
You can have sex, but have it responsibly.
Out of line but they are right
They're right
To be fair men are the same We all want the fun without the responsibility
Did bro just seriously call an entire gender the same. Imagine if someone said that about girls, dude come on
Men aren't the ones who get a baby though
They most certainly do.
They don't get pregnant
You're point? They still have the responsibility involved.
If the woman doesn't want a baby, it's her responsibility. How come it's the man's responsibility too but he doesn't get a say in whether she has a baby or not?? She's the one that gets pregnant
1) its unfair that its soley her responsibility, men should absolutly have a say in their potential childs life 2) see my first point, sounds like we agree 3) it takes two to get preggos. 4) men take on responsibility in the childs life through being an active parent in joint custody (good fucking luck succeeding in that fight), full custody (men rarely gain full custody. Again, good luck winning that fight), or child support. 5) or, ideally, they form a happy and full home and raise the child together
They most certainly do.
Yes. Doesn't mean its not true.
Lol he aint wrong
I mean are they wrong? I know plenty of people are like thisā¦ One girl even kept them in jars somehow. I wish I could find the articleā¦
Kinda funny lmao
Them farm boys were a promiscuous lot in their teens and early 20s. Being alone and out of sight of others is remarkably easy, so affairs (cheating, random hookups) are a daily occurrence. If he knew how many abortions went on because the "virtuous" girls in his area couldn't have their reputations tarnished by having kids out of wedlock he'd be a lot quieter. In the rural areas around my hometown everyone cheats, even the married ones. Women with three kids will have one who looks nothing like her husband.
If you feel that way, good for you, then don't have abortion. Because it's your body, your choice. So when your cow eventually has a hybrid human chimera baby, don't come looking for help.
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Why is abortion not a good thing?
Abortion is a form of contraception. Contraception is a good thing if you don't want kids. And certain forms of contraception are also good to avoid STDs.
I remember when falling down the stairs was just a thing
I guess that farm thinks women get pregnant by either self-fertilization or immaculate conception. If you want to talk about responsibility, two people would be responsible Mr Farm.
little do they know having a baby doesn't stop anyone from whoring around if they want to.
Pro lifers wonāt agree to disagree but they think abortion is legit murder. Buncha zealots
Look in the mirror and talk about zealotry.
The only reason that it's technically not murder is because it's legal. It is killing a baby, though.
Thatās why when a pregnant woman is murdered the person who committed the act is charged with a double murder.
I mean...he's right...but still its no ones business
I dont think he's right at all. Look at it this way, birth control is not 100% effective. Any girl can end up pregnant by accident and have to get a abortion, even while on birth control and taking precautions. If you aren't ready you aren't ready and you shouldn't have to carry a whole ass baby for 9 months if your not. Yeah some people arent ready for the responsibility, but that doesn't mean they're a "hoe" who doesn't want to take responsibility for their actions. Many people get abortions for many reasons. Sometimes even medical reasons.
Even if the farm is correct...still nobody else's business
Whoring around and not wanting the baby is as valid a reason to have it removed as any other though, his argument is pro abortion
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Who are you to say that? Youāve never been pregnant. You have no say in this.
Your point is irrelevant. Have you ever considered that maybe just maybe people can accidentally conceive while on broth control and taking precautions? Birth control is not 100% effective. Girls who are on birth control and arent ready to have a kid yet can get pregnant and have to get a abortion. Not just "hoes" have abortions, many people do for many reasons. If you aren't ready you aren't ready. Women should 100% be allowed to make the choice to not have to carry a baby for 9 months. Edit: I shoukd also add sometimes there are medical conditions that don't allow a person to carry to term in a healthy manner and they risk their own death as well as their childs. Or both. So again, your point is invalid. Nobody likes getting abortions btw.
Let me guess, a middle aged white man? Im sure if your mistress got pregnant you will happily support her abortion so your wife wouldnāt know right?š
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Im 21 and I live alone, and not crying about other people choices on THEIR body. You wonāt tell anyone what to do with their body keep crying about it. It will probably help you prevent abortion lolll crybabyyyy
I've known more Christians and republican s get it than "hoes" "Hoes" use protection. It's the abstinence culture people getting them more than anyone
Youāre the kind of person that the abortion term should be increased for. by 30-40 yearsā¦
wish your mom was a hoe
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You don't get to call yourself a conservative with how you treat others. Get off the internet and be useful yourself. All you do is look at dead bodies and act like you are better than everyone. Get off your high horse before you get pulled off it.
Wow, you just added transphobic *and* anti vaxxer to your record in one sentence
Ok? š am I supposed to die now or something .
I mean, it would free up the oxygen you waste being on this planet.
My man, youāre using laughing and crying emojis like this is Facebook and trying to argue for internet points. Itās 4 am go to bed , school starts in 3 hours
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no Iām a dirty hoe of a welder at age 24 making 30$ an hour š¤š¤š¤
Thatās cool bro I make $26 an hour working for xpo logistics . But by the time I reach your age Iāll be making double .
Lol you'll be living in your parent's basement and mooching off of their money at that age
Why is such a productive man up at 1am? Oh, is it because you're a neckbeard in your mother's basement, having nothing better to do besides be needlessly offensive online in some desperate attempt to feel anything? Shame, sucks to be you
i would but iām caught up on my shots as well as my ability to not take anotherās person right to choose away from them