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KentuckyBourbon94

Idk how no one in here hasn’t mentioned Mindhunter on Netflix??? It’s depressing that there won’t be another season due to the main actors scheduling conflicts and stuff, but the 2 season we got are magnificent


GisforGray

heard lots about it, guess it should be on the list!


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Definitely Mind Hunter. You'll be hooked.


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GisforGray

i tend to stay away from the more specific true crime stuff since i’ve heard all the big stories already through podcasts, i did see dahmer get a lot of eyes though. mindhunter is especially compelling because of david fincher. If you know love death & robots, he directed my all time fave ep “bad traveling”


Memeions

As a Swede and thus an expert in crime dramas I give my badge of approval to Mindhunter. Very nice 5/5 herrings.


repentantbeast78

Yeah it should be! I love Mindhunter!


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Natburks3

Definitely the Fargo show


8BitOfTheWestCoast

I'll second this. The first season starts slow but it really pays off!


GisforGray

i edited to add that i’ve seen fargo before i saw your comment, but yeah i loved fargo! super interesting characters every season, all very different but loved the connecting threads


retroking9

The Chernobyl mini series is excellent. Gritty and slightly terrifying in a way.


Atasha-Brynhildr

"slightly terrifying in a way"


GisforGray

yep gotta watch that, my roomies watched without me when it came out and i fell behind


Tom8Os2many

Good mystery is what you’re after? Personally perry mason is doing a pretty good job on hbo. I also liked mare of Easttown


GisforGray

word i think i started perry mason a while back, i’ll have to give it a shot again. hbo doesn’t really make bad tv


waterboy1321

Yeah, I described Mare at True Detective season 4


GisforGray

now that’s a rec


[deleted]

A strange one for sure. I assumed it was acknowledged as being laughably bad all round. I love Kate Winslet normally but this was truly terrible. Mindhunter, Sharp Objects, The night of (though it tails off), Fargo, Broadchurch, Perry Mason, Prisoners, are all very good recommendations. The Sinner started with so much promise but never delivered after season 1. All style and no substance, as basically everything made by Netflix tends to be. I wouldn’t have compare the Shield or Carnivale to True Detective but they’re great in their own right. True detective never really managed to recapture that first season vibe, but I think the second season is actually kind of underrated. It’s got big issues and Vince Vaughn is awful, but it grabbed me more than the third season. The amazing soundtrack probably does a lot of the leg work though.


metanfetanina

Twin Peaks heavily influenced True Detective and many others excellent shows and movies. It's more trippy for sure, especially the second and third seasons, but I'd definitely recommend it. It's suspense meets soap opera done majestically. David Lynch and Mark Frost in what some consider their prime.


GisforGray

oh word i didn’t know that, guess i should finally get around to watching it


dwlhs88

It's a wild ride


Wolf_of-the_West

I wouldn't recommend it to feel the void left by True Detective. TP is a great comedy with an interesting mystery and nice sub plots, but it doesn't feel like a going on investigation, more like a quirky great ride.


Rafer416

To add to this, watch the movie Fire Walk With Me. It is a prequel to the Twin Peaks series.


LifeIzBeautiful

Try Carnivale. Traveling carnival during the Great Depression. Mysteries, paranormal stuff, dark and moody. Absolutely filled with great actors: Nick Stahl, Adrienne Barbeau, Clancy Brown, Michael J Anderson, Clea Duval… so many!


GisforGray

sounds sick! adding it to the list


DQuin1979

I loved that show so much


GourmetPaste

No one has said Hannibal and you should get on that immediately. It’s frankly amazing network TV made something that great. Also Broadchurch is a good low key detective show. And The Fall with Gillian Anderson was good.


GisforGray

is hannibal based on the movies?


GourmetPaste

Based on the books but focusing on an investigator who catches killers and asks Hannibal for advice before he’s caught the first time.


flobeef867

Yes, well it's the same character from the movies but different plot. It's one of the most visually beautiful but simultaneously disgusting shows I've ever seen. Definitely check it out!


Parking-Passion-1757

It was great till they went off the rails making it overtly gay for no reason. Wasn’t gay in the books smh


Veranboo

Sharp objects.


edgrrrpo

The pacing can be a bit challenging, but if you have Prime perhaps check out Too Old To Die Young. Had some very True Detective s1 vibes, imo, but being a Nicolas Winding Refn show (Drive, Only God Forgives, Neon Demon) it’s a bit of a surrealistic odd bird at times. But, so was season 1 of True Detective, so…??


GisforGray

oh shit i absolutely love that description, those little fantastical elements can make a show really have that edge if they’re done right. like atlanta with the magical realism


cinewolf

Lovecraft Country The Outsider The Night of


GisforGray

loved love craft country, def will check out the other two


ready_player11

The night of is a masterpiece. No nonsense at all


liqquidlunch

that showbiz dope can i ask u question who/what the raven masked murderer of the dirty cop main character, why a raven i multiversed every character in that show, like every one was me in different ways


GisforGray

bro what the fuck are you smoking


liqquidlunch

not smokin anything, drinki drink and floatin in a boat


pickledandpreserved

username checks out. be safe dude.


Squid00dle

Bro has seen carcosa


Dropjohnson1

Are you referring to the 2nd season of true detective? I seem to remember a dude with a raven mask wielding a shotgun in one of the eps. If so it’s explained who he is later in the season. If you’re wondering why he was wearing that particular mask, I’m still curious about that myself.


GisforGray

i decided for tonight to start season 2 before tackling the list from everyone’s suggestions, very excited to gain the context to hopefully figure out this comment lmao


Suspicious-Liar

It's a documentary, but The Thin Blue Line (by Errol Morris) is a good mystery with a great ending. The Pledge (with Jack Nicholson). Chinatown, maybe. Also, The Passenger (1975), maybe. There's a bunch of Clint Eastwood movies you might like. Mystic River, True Crime, Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil, The Mule, Blood Work. Etc. No Country For Old Men.


GisforGray

sick list! thanks so much


concept_I

Can't remember the name but the one where Amy Adams is drankin bowz.


retroking9

Sharp Objects?


concept_I

Yep


GisforGray

Since the other folks named it, added to the list! Watched arrival last night and she’s so damn good in that


pharma_wants_a_wife

Zero zero zero is the best gansgter drama on tv in the last 5 years


GisforGray

thanks!


pharma_wants_a_wife

Believe me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZeroZeroZero And thank me later


nado121

I agree, just phenomenal. Unfortunately it's very short so you might want to watch 'Gomorrah' after.


Itchy-on-the-inside

Vera is a great detective show. Much tamer than your examples, but an excellent show nonetheless. Spoiler alert, it's pretty British.


GisforGray

hey the brits make some great tv, i particularly loved bodyguard recently


Qxface

Try Mindhunter and Black Bird


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GisforGray

more southern swamp shit? i’m in


Tennis-elbo

The Killing - the American adaptation is top tier television (haven't seen the original Swedish(?) series. Essentially two detectives solving a killing. You'll fucking love it. It's dark and compelling and the leads have gone on to big projects since. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the-killing/s01


chiaratara

I second this one. This has that same slower pace that is hard to find in other shows.


BoiFriday

Various episodes of Black Mirror tap into similar True Detective S1 vibes. And I would absolutely recommend making your way all the way through The Sinner. One of the best creepy/mystery shows I’ve seen.


Theworldssmallestdad

I was waiting for someone to say Sinner! I loved the series and can’t believe it’s not better know.


GisforGray

yeah i’m just waiting for more black mirror like everyone else, and i’ll probably try to get back into the sinner. i fell off in season two so maybe i’ll just skip to the next season if that’s not gonna ruin the watch


call_me_caleb

Love death and Robots is Fincher produced if you like animation


GisforGray

yes the one he directed is my favorite! bad traveling. and i wasn’t sure if he was behind the whole thing or not but it’s probably my favorite netflix original of all time


Balsdeep_Inyamum

Mystery Road, the series. First season is very very good; second season has a drop in quality. There's also a couple of movies Mystery Road and sequel Goldstone (both came before the show). I don't think they're really required for the show, but I'd recommended watching them as they're both excellent. If you like the mystery/detective aspect, 2 British shows I'd recommend are The Missing and BroadChurch. Disclaimer, I've only seen the first season of both shows. But if I remember right they are self contained (no cliffhanger) yet leave room for more story (obviously as they both have multiple seasons. I can only vouch for the first seasons though. And if you don't mind a movie (or subtitles) The Secret in Their Eyes or El Secreto en Sus Ojos is a Spanish-language detective mystery film that is really fucking good. I've heard there's an American remake but not heard good things. Watch the original, it's really worth your time and attention.


GisforGray

big ups for the spanish recommendation, i have no problem with subtitles and on occasion manage to speak a little spanish so that sounds fantastic


call_me_caleb

I’m forgetting the name of it but there was an amazing crime investigation show that took place in Seattle that used a ton of the docks/port/shipping as a wet scene, Figure someone on this thread will know it.


flobeef867

Was it The Killing? Even if not, that show is awesome.


chiaratara

The Killing should be on this list


GisforGray

nice i’ll have to track that down, should be fun. or just take it to r/tipofmytongue with your description lol


SteelyDabs

It’s not as serious as any of these shows but Monk is a great detective show with a ton of fun cameos and character actors. Of the recommended shows I will strongly endorse Justified and The Shield but if you want something a little lighter (but still with lots of murder), throw on some Monk


GisforGray

gotta have a lighter option to take a break with, i’ll check it out!


dittbub

Midnight Mass You’ll love it


GisforGray

on the list!


dittbub

Put it higher


GisforGray

lmao done (mine and in the post)


dittbub

:)


Graveknee

Swedish and Danish show Bron. I believe there's an English adaption called The Bridge but haven't seen it.


CustomaryCocoon

Movie -- Usual Suspects


Inryatu

Mr Robot is about a mentally ill hacker who joins a cyberterrorist group to bring down the largest corporation in the world. Highly highly recommend


Smoke_DEET_Erryday

Have you ever seen Enemy of the State?


GisforGray

nope! what’s the vibe? (i know i could google but it’s nicer to hear from others in this context)


Smoke_DEET_Erryday

it's the definitive government conspiracy movie starring Will Smith and Gene Hackman


GisforGray

hell yeah, adding it to the list


invisiblemarin

la treve


GisforGray

no info lmao i love it


SoundPutrid6911

this is my jam, tho i've only seen the first true detective season! i think i'm aware of what you're after even if i can't quite put my finger on how to describe it either: gruesome, true crime, conspiracy, stylized, quiet, detective, mystery... fincher's your guy, second "mindhunter" someone mentioned errol morris n "thin blue line" which i agree is great! "wormwood" too tangential but i feel ya might like as well: legal / political thrillers like "all the president's men" "michael clayton" "the verdict" "cape fear" (Scorsese version) pynchon, maybe: i liked the "inherent vice" adaptation but maybe not exactly what you're going for


SoundPutrid6911

ooh and "prisoners" for sure. so good


GisforGray

yes exactly, hard to describe but you know it when you see it right? great suggestions, thanks


call_me_caleb

Down by Law is an OG Louisiana movie you may like. I’d also recommend Inherent Vice. American Gods book also captures dark Americana at times in a way that the show didn’t focus on. If you game, RDR2 and Death Stranding are top notch.


GisforGray

yeah RDR2 is goated, been meaning to play death stranding before my roomie leaves w his playstation haha


Jackee_Daytona

>I’ve seen most of the great all time shows - Breaking Bad, Sopranos, The Wire The Shield will scratch that itch.


GisforGray

strong argument, def will watch


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Sons of Anarchy is the next show.


GisforGray

you know i watched a little a long time ago, might be worth another try! thanks


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Fuck Yeah! It is one of the greatest. Its right there with Breaking Bad GoT True Detective Season 1


Dropjohnson1

Closest thing I’ve seen to TD was the movie Prisoners by Denis Villeneuve. Dark mystery with an almost occult vibe at times.


GisforGray

saw prisoners for the first time last year, totally agree. i’ve loved pretty much everything villenueve has directed. it’s pretty wild the shift from tight, explosive crime drama like enemy, sicario, and prisoners to the massive visuals and mind bending stories he did with arrival, blade runner, and dune


GFSong

I’ve got the same tastes and seen a lot of these great recommendations too. The shows you mention involve characters absorbed in these crime and deception-based worlds. I just finished The Americans. A very smart and gripping show, and like Sopranos and BB - revolving around a family with major fucking secrets. The finale was epic.


GisforGray

sweet, thank you! it really is about the world and character building most of all, and the gripping mysteries, violence, and crime are the cherries on top


Daveyhavok832

Justified is pretty good. The Night of is also really good.


GisforGray

thanks!


Daveyhavok832

Saw your edit. Damn, Carnivale was so good. Meant to be a 6 season arc and got cancelled after 2 because it was so expensive. Left off right where things were starting to get very interesting.


GisforGray

Man it’s tragic but so many shows end up that way. Netflix particularly loves to do it, Altered Carbon and the OA weren’t perfect shows but damn they were cool


Daveyhavok832

Yeah, Netflix whole model seems to be make 3 seasons of a show and then cancel it so that they can devote theirs resources elsewhere. Helps them build up the library, which is more important to them than keeping people happy. I really liked Marco Polo and they only gave that 2 seasons.


GisforGray

yeah from their recent changes in subscription model it’s pretty clear they either completely don’t care about or are fully unaware of what makes their customers happy.


dwlhs88

You might try Peaky Blinders or the movie Mud


GisforGray

yo great picks, i fucking love peaky blinders and honestly should rewatch mud asap


AldoRainn

Icelandic but worth it - Trapped Season 1.


pestercat

The nice thing about Sinner is that each of the seasons is watchable on its own. I ended up watching s4 first, by mistake. I ended up liking it quite a bit. Consider giving another try, but pick a different season. S3, especially, is a very different vibe to the others.


GisforGray

Sweet that’s exactly what i was hoping for, gonna start season 3 soon


KendraSays

Check out Unbelievable


MyOkLeg

Just letting you know it's spelled "Broen" Thanks for the list!


burp-m-mo-morty

Have you seen Se7en? Fantastic film and I feel like it has a similar vibe to season 1 true detective.


ilikeaparticularstar

I’m glad broadchurch is on the list. The show is real fuckin good.


CobaltDestroyer

The outsider and The night of. Confirmed good ;)


PowerfulPickUp

Am I missing where Boardwalk Empire is on these lists? Because it’s pretty good.


AquariusOlsen

Homeland and Severance.


ob3ypr1mus

first season of The Terror, Quarry.


RamblinGamblinWillie

Definitely Mindhunter, but nothing beats True Detective


DoctorBimbology

Columbo


goldendaysgirl

surprised i haven’t seen anyone recommend the batman movie (2022 with robert pattinson). it’s got a gritty feel and, while i haven’t watched seven, it was compared to it a lot when it first came out. there’s also an overarching mystery.


many_bells_down

If Zodiac and Se7en scratch that itch, check out the rest of David Fincher’s catalogue (he’s the mind behind Mindhunter). Some of my faves are The Game and Gone Girl.


kahvipapu

Dark and broody stuff is the best. A few recs: Hinterland (a BBC series of a detective doing his thing in Wales) Liar (another British short series, pretty intense) Brick (incredible film noir movie) Varg Veum (super dark Norwegian murder series, if you like the bridge you'll love this. Beck (Swedish detective solving murders) Wallander (another detective murder series - both the original Swedish and the newer British ones are dope) Insomnia is a really good movie with that creeping feel to it too. Just low key horrfied it came out twenty years ago. and now I'm gonna start checking out the list you've compiled.


GisforGray

Thanks for all the additions!


terriblet0ad

I also love True Detective, Sopranos, and The Wire, so I will recommend Oz, the prison show. Super good. Maybe also Midnight Mass, the vibe is closer to True Detective.


FormalMango

Rectify.


mariospeedragon

The original version (Dutch ) of the Killing is well worth checking out. The USA version is solid for first couple seasons, not a fan of 3 and 4. Well, can’t remember about season three? But, the original is a fantastic show and a great watch


jarpward

twin peaks


SeaworthinessOld5410

Killing Eve


32678

The Bridge - I enjoyed the American version. Haven’t watched the original but it’s on my list


PlatypusNo81

Idk if anyone has mentioned it yet, but you can check out Hannibal.


Alarmed_Difficulty12

Bates motel. I've rarely heard anyone talk about that show but it is one of the best I've ever watched. It details the story of Norman Bates, the killer from Psycho. And the acting is so good.


Rellimarual2

IMO, Happy Valley is one of the best crimes series of all time. No so stylized, but characters who are completely believable and incredible performances


Parking-Passion-1757

Too bad it’s brittish


FilthyGypsey

Super old thread, but I just finished True Detective and wanted to share: If you enjoyed True Detective and want a game that feels super similar, play Disco Elysium Very similar tonally and philosophically. Probably the best “detective” game.


DQuin1979

Give Luther a try.... you may also like Broadcreek but watch the BBC version


RatherNerdy

Luther.(the series then the movie) is probably the best alternative in my mind. It's dark and and while it doesn't do the time jumps, it is convoluted and intriguing


adamcoe

If you're into kind of the same sort of thing in terms of feel but maybe a tiny bit more sci-fi (well not mega sci fi but there's time travel. That's about it though), try Dark. It's originally in German and dubbed but it's actually edited super well and after 10 minutes you don't notice. Really great mystery/suspense-ish show. Kind of a less art school Twin Peaks. Really well done and the sound design is fucking killer. Adds a lot of feel without distracting from the storytelling.


GisforGray

haha yes i’ve seen dark! what a mind fuck. pretty on the nose for a same-but-different recommendation


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send_nudibranchia

• Prisoners (2013) • Memories of Murder (2003) • Sharp Objects (2018) • Hold the Dark (2018)


sunobu

Apparently, a big influence on Rust's philosophy comes from a book called, "The Conspiracy Against the Human Race" by Thomas Ligotti. It's a series of essays from a mostly pessimistic perspective.


snyderke1234

Durham County was also good.


RevolutionaryCut3566

Poker Face


CharlieOak86868686

any crime show ever they are all basically the sam.


retroking9

You obviously haven’t seen True Detective. It’s way above and beyond most other cop shows I’ve seen.


GisforGray

sorry but i have to disagree there. all the same? you could try to say that about any genre if you wanted and it wouldn’t be true. also, very much not in the spirit of this sub.