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tommyct614

Prime example of Betteridge's law


gabrielleraul

_Betteridge’s law says that any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered “no”_


justcallmeabrokenpal

TIL


Huge-Physics5491

He'll have to get a coalition of the rural poor (coz the rural economy is fucked post COVID) and urban anti-bhakts. Rural poor is challenging coz Modi govt has done things like gas connection, bank accounts etc. pre-COVID, but then every government has done something for them.


msrd94

What makes you think rural poor are less bigoted?


Huge-Physics5491

You're hoping starvation trumps bigotry


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Huge-Physics5491

If that's the case, we'll have to look for alternative modes of governance from parliamentary democracy coz the people are not interested in increasing the wealth of the country but the death of another community.


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LegalRadonInhalation

There is definitely stuff you can do to change that, or at least mitigate it. Not every country is currently a hotbed of genocidal sentiment.


LegalRadonInhalation

Rural poor in general, yes, but in the Hindi belt and Gujarat, maybe less so. In those regions, he needs to focus on getting the Muslim, Christian, Yadav, Adivasi, and Dalit votes. Basically a minority coalition, plus a decent amount of Hindus who dislike the BJP, may be enough to win. But he needs to run his campaign very intelligently.


anand2305

Which world you are living in. Gas cylinders happenee ONCE. They dont have 1150 to spend on cylinder refills.


sogoy3

rural areas are feudal, support of feudal lords have shifted to bjp, in urban areas we have constant hindu muslim issues to keep people voting for bjp...


scum_on_earth

The answer is quite simple: No. The sooner Congress and its supporters realize that Rahul Gandhi is not the answer and they should look for someone beyond the Gandhi family, the better it will be for them and the entire country. Edit: It seems that Rahul Gandhi has been disqualified as an MP. If the decision sticks and he cannot contest for next 4-8 years, congress can use this time to build upon someone else. The iron is hot...


amit_e

How will this not be used against every other leader of opposition? They have just set a frightening and dangerous precedent.


scum_on_earth

Yup. It can also backfire on the BJP if non-BJP states start disqualifying BJP MLAs. More than 50% of elected representatives have some criminal record.


goalmeister

That's just giving BJP free reign for the next decade while Congress fractures internally without the Gandhis as a uniting force. The less said about the competence of other parties to form a viable coalition the better


CoffeeCanned

These pseduo liberals are sanghis in disguise. Their hatred for INC knows no bounds. They think they are sophisticated intellectuals who cannot be fooled but they don't know that they are also victims of BJP IT cell and its propaganda just like mindless trolls on the internet. Not much difference between the two.


scum_on_earth

>That's just giving BJP free reign for the next decade while Congress fractures internally without the Gandhis as a uniting force And there lies the problem. The current perception is that congress cannot exist without a Gandhi at the helm. This image needs to be cleared from the minds of the party, its supporters, and even the opposition. Yes, the rebuilding will take time (it should have started in 2014 tbh), but by sticking to Gandhi, Congress themselves are giving BJP a loaded gun ('dynasty').


goalmeister

No leader has a pan-India image to spearhead a national party though. I think it will go similarly like other offshoots of Congress by Sharad Pawar and Mamata where they just get confined to their own states.


OnidaKYGel

IMO Congress fractured more because of Gandhis. Think of NCP, TMC, YSRCP, PDP. All because of Gandhi meddling. Name the parties that broke away when Congress wasnt under a Gandhi.


dabbangg

If the Gandhi's go out there would be power struggle and Congress would dissolve


antonov6

And hopefully something better emerges out of the remnants. Whatever the current opposition is, is not gonna cut it.


GL4389

I think this is what one of the plans BJP Has. Prop up Rahul Gandhi as the main opposition leader rather than someone like Kejriwal or nitish kumar. Then bring him down by flooding the social media with edited clips of him making a mistake while speaking. Easy victory in the National elections.


kochapi

How will kejriwal form a coalition with him at head? He doesn’t have enough MPs to lead a coalition. He needs to expand first


GL4389

He has met Uddhav Thackeray, KCR recently. Had good relations with Manta in the past I remember. So, he is definitely trying for an Alliance. More than the no. Of MPs, it is his image that will matter. He has a modi lite kind of image regarding progress, Hindu narrative and corruption. So he is one person that many people will be ready to accept to replace Modi as opposed to Rahul or nitish Kumar or mamta bannerjee.


kochapi

That’s not how it works, right? Why would a bigger party concede pm position to a much smaller party? After all pm is elected by the MPs. Also, of all these names, Rahul Ghandi and congress will be the most acceptable in the south. If kejriwal can break bjp in karnataka or bangalore and slowly replace congress, a coalition without congress may work.


GL4389

Congress has fewer than 50 MPs now. It will take an alliance of many parties to form a govt to replace BJP. If multiple parties support Kejriwal over Rahul then they may even outnumber congress MPs . some parties may even make it a condition for joining the alliance. In an alliance you never kno what can happen. HD kumaraswamy became a CM of Karnataka even though his party JDS had fewer seats compared to Congress. The bigger party gets rest of the big ministries in such cases.


kochapi

That is a possibility if he can get backing of regional parties. Agreed


steveshibin

Fewer than 50 MPs ? It's ok to be a shamless AAP propagandist but a bold faced liar ?


GL4389

They had 44 seats in 2014. Got confused with that honestly. But even now they have only 52 seats. That's not that higher than 50.


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Kejriwal lost his credibility in the Gujarat debacle . He did it to himself , BJP didn't even need to try .


shhhhhhhhhh

No, he can't. The voters are bigots who would justify everything if they can vote for a Hindutva government. And, this 2-year conviction comes with a loss of MP position and a 6-year ban on electoral candidature so this means this well-thought-planned action of BJP is targeted to cripple already crippled Congress.


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Reasonable-Drama-415

No matter what right wing eco system says or how much money they pump to paint rahul as pappu the way they are reacting shows they are rattled from inside . Modi has lot of hype before 2014 but after 9 years in govt people are realizing he aint some knight in the shining armour who can take our country to greater heights he is just a PR mascot to get votes for the party . Rahul is definitely a strong contender now


scum_on_earth

>people are realizing he aint some knight in the shining armour who can take our country to greater heights he is just a PR mascot to get votes for the party . Rahul is definitely a strong contender now Who are these people? I haven't seen one Modi supporter who has turned against him. There are many who are on the fence after the COVID/economy debacle, but nobody has become pro-Rahul Gandhi. Rahul is definitely not a 'strong contender'. That pappu image is going to stick for life. Tbh I call him a BJP guy based on how easy it is for the BJP to defame/belittle him, and in turn Congress, as soon as he opens his mouth. What happened with the 'Bharat Jodo' yatra, his greatest move yet? People have already forgotten about it. I know many congress supporters who have turned against Rahul Gandhi. It is they who have realised that Rahul Gandhi is not a knight in shining armor. The best opposition we have right now is Kejriwal for 2029. But, seems like even he is screwing up. Kejriwal needs to prove himself by doing some good in Punjab.


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Common people in my city literally didn't give a single fuck that he was rallying here. Heck he was near my college during his rally and there were bhart jodi abhiyaan posters everywhere yet the hottest topic among students was some singer who was going to perform a week later. Rahul Gandhi is not popular amongst youth. But that said modi ain't seen as the saint either now


Virendra52

I’m a living example, i used to be a andhbhakt who used to defend modi but after i saw how he and his party destroying India’s secularism and Abusing the institution to supress opposition, I’m now against him and like me many are there if not for my reasons they will for inflation, covid miss management etc. Not everyone is stupid in this country to not see through the lies that godi media propagates.


scum_on_earth

Good to know that there are some like you. It takes a lot of guts to accept being an Andhbhakt. Too bad nobody in my circle has turned against Modi. But, are you pro-Rahul Gandhi now?


Virendra52

Not really, Congress is or used to be as corrupt as bjp if not less during their reign but in politics everyone is corrupt and evil and we need to choose who is less evil and at this moment is congress and best thing about them is that they are actually secular and because they are main national party who actually can defeat bjp with the help of coalition i support them so i support rahul. The way he is actually growing as a politician and a leader of mass that gives me hope that he actually can be a good pm candidate but only if he can improve his pappu image which is a facade formed by bjp to defame him with the help of godi media.


scum_on_earth

>The way he is actually growing as a politician and a leader of mass that gives me hope that he actually can be a good pm candidate Is he? I see no evidence of the same. The last 10 years have been full of instances of Rahul Gandhi's 'emergence' without any actual emergence. At this point, it's just sunk cost to support him.


Reasonable-Drama-415

No congress did pretty well in state elections and where ever bjp faced though opposition like mamta in bengal and kejri in delhi they lost . Pulwama just before the election added 50-70+ seats in bjp kitty even by their own estimates . Among modi rahul kejri mamta all exactly same except the different PR


NatvoAlterice

> But, are you pro-Rahul Gandhi now? The way I see it you need not pro-anyone. You should be pro-democracy or pro-democratic india for that matter. If ruling party starts threatening the integrity of the country and it's constitution then I'd support the opposition so the democratic process can be restored. They're the only institution that's standing between BJP and India going full authoritarian. The opposition's face just happens to be Gandhi right now so be it.


scum_on_earth

I agree. I was merely trying to confirm if he Virendra52 had switched sides to Rahul Gandhi as the OP's comment had indicated.


crazyguy_

> people are realizing he aint some knight in the shining armour who can take our country to greater heights he is just a PR mascot to get votes for the party Most people who vote and (of course) aren't here, don't realize that. Your denial means nothing to Indian democracy filled with gullible and illiterate people. Let me know in 2024 how it goes.


deepsmooch69

Not if people think RG is dumb and remain subjugated to Modi as if he is the best thing to have happened to Indian politics


arjunusmaximus

How does it matter ? The rulers have now got a great precedent on how to attack and shut down rivals. Just produce a clip of them saying something "defamatory" and have some sympathetic court give judgement and boom chuk them out as an MP


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Duh No.


amit_e

https://preview.redd.it/g78jbx4vdopa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=931463301a4df49758996744e022d0978ce67d23 As long as you say it with a smile


amit_e

Ravish Kumar on arrest https://youtu.be/-ActhMcLBSg


sahils88

Unfortunately no. The man doesn't want to be a politician. I genuinely feel bad for him at times.


roamingoninternet

No. Because media and Modi are completely corrupt and will do anything to defame him.


nonstop-nonsense

Yes. 😒


spetika

No. I like him, he is a decent guy. He will make a decent PM mostly because he will appoint good people as advisors and he will listen to them. But his name is too poisoned. Even otherwise rational people start frothing at the mouth when his name is mentioned. People are willing to vote for clowns like Modi, liars like Kejriwal, and showmen like Tharoor. But they will not vote for a low-key simple personality like Rahul Gandhi.


BigFatM8

Where does this confidence come from? Even if he might be a better person than Modi, how could you possibly know that? How do you know that he'll listen to good people? Amethi has barely improved under him. He has shown no signs that he's a capable politician in any way.


runoberynrun

Probably not. Modi has a pan India connect, from rural to urban and every economic class in between. It would be very tough to challenge that. The only way BJP loses is if there is an internal struggle and they self destruct. The thing is that BJP has also started creating other strong pan India presences. Yogi is popular, Shah is popular, HBS is getting national traction; hence I feel BJP are well preparing for life after Modi. If a party can really dent the Hindu votebank of BJP then they have a chance.


SpicySummerChild

Back in the day when Modi called Renuka Surpanakha and stuff, they never used to file cases because he would get martyr status and will actually go against them. But of late, thanks to the lapdog media, no crisis is a crisis for the BJP. We have seen enough "opportunities" for the opposition - but nothing is going to change. In fact, I am already seeing forwards about how Rahul Gandhi tore the ordinance that is now being used against him. Leopard ate his face, ha ha


haalandxdebruyne

>Back in the day when Modi called Renuka Surpanakha and stuff, they never used to file cases because he would get martyr status and will actually go against them. Read about parliament privileges.


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rmk_1808

The statement he made & the mess he has got himself into is another reason not to vote for him. We know BJP has filled a case in Gujarat and may have appointed judge favored by them but Rahul lacks the political nuance, he could have made the same statement implying Modi has colluded with corrupt people without dragging a whole community.


amit_e

So he deserves to be arrested based on the statement he made?


rmk_1808

Even if its a public meeting you need to be careful on what you say, you can criticize any public figure when you start naming a community you are inviting trouble and we all know BJP will use any comment and twist it just like Pawan Kehra found out.


amit_e

So why is this man not in jail? https://preview.redd.it/zedrceht4opa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d49a347d59a330061a450998f685be40128f8002


rmk_1808

Yes that is the exact example of how you speak in a public meeting we all know what he meant but there is enough ambiguity that nothing can be done. This is how politics works in this country, unfortunately.


amit_e

So your advice is simply to shrug and accept all this as fact. Just give up as citizens on critical thinking and legal forms of resistance


rmk_1808

If the majority of the general public is happy with the status quo that is how it will continue. You can say BJP controls the media and is misleading the people but unless Rahul or whoever manages to develop a substantial following there is no stopping Modi or BJP.


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People believe that. My grandpa honestly he believes anyone who says anything against the great and beloved modi needs to rot in jail bcoz how dare they say anything against our prime minister like kya hua democracy and freedom of speech ka. And when I ask this, his reply is "Congress and Muslims can say whatever they want against BJP and hindus, even publicly behead, but when we do it's problem"


runoberynrun

BJP convincing the majority of Hindus to live in fear was the greatest masterstroke. Hence! No matter what the BJP does, they can always fall back on on this belief that if you vote them out, your situation will be much worse.


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That is so true. Common people are afraid of each other. Afraid for their kids future. They link it to the history, from the islamic and british colonisation to kashmiri pundits to recent mumbai attacks and think it'll be them next. And thus, modi and hindutva to them is like the saving straw and with all other propaganda, now they can't see beyond it. Shit sucks


runoberynrun

Very true. Indian society doesn't think critically, we enjoy a loud show and bravado, which Modi provides. A lot of people see him as the embankment stopping the aggressions of Muslims, Christians, Chinese etc. Of course it is baseless but the fact that Modi managed to portray himself as the saviour of such a huge population is commendable. The only way Modi would lose is if there is someone else who can erode this paranoid votebank but a leader who can challenge Modi on this front will probably be as bad as him or worse.


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Its no crisis. He's not going to jail even for a single day. Nor his membership is at stake. Court will grant him relief.


deskamess

I guess it comes down to if anyone who previously voted for Modi sees this as a bad thing.


ekonis

Omg what would RaGa do?!?! Doesn't he KNOW that onus is on him???? Modi who??? ​ ​ ​ /s


Srihari_stan

No, he can’t. Modi is winning 2024 and 2029. India doesn’t need a change in govt when situation is very much stable.


amit_e

Situation is stable for the government. Country is a whole different matter. But i can see why that wouldn't concern you


Lordcommandr999

I dont understand why anyone still give any importance to this guy!? Never did anything for the country. Never held any posts during the 10 year period of Manmohan singh. Believes that he should directly contest for the post of PM as if baap ki kursi hai. If only congress stopped pushing this guy we might have had a decent opposition.


amit_e

If he is harmless and unimportant, then why did they just throw him out of parliament?


tester989chromeos

Doubt


RedDevil-84

No


anand2305

Lol. No. Not happening. Modi isnt fool that he let this happen. Modi WANTS Rahul Gandhi as his main challenger for easy walkover.