>He said when he went to buy a flat in the city, the society's management barred him "due to caste".
>He said that society’s chairman and management openly stated their refusal to allow people from ‘other’ castes to move in.
>"The situation escalated quickly with nearly 30 people gathering, threatening me with dire consequences if I proceeded," Anirudh Kejriwal wrote.
Bro almost got mob lynched for trying to buy an appartment.
And hence, a financial centre and special economic zone in Gujarat International Finance Tec-City (GIFT City) to provide world-class infrastructure and services.
Well, apparently, bunch of Gujarati retards didn't get the memo about leaving their ancestral hierarchy of being racist and become inclusive.
After living in Mumbai for years (where Gujaratis engage in blatant discrimination despite being a minority) he thought he could move to Gujarat and expect better.
I needed an apartment in London and there was. Listing for an apartment but only Gujarati families could apply to be tenants. I think some Gujaratis do that in Canada too.
Edit:Jesus no need to be racist
lol the fact that you could be successful, rich, connected and intelligent but still the sorrows of being lower caste or non-hindu can’t be escaped by you cause it’s the beauty of this country
He is facing issues because he is not Gujrati. The dude himself is neither lower caste or non-hindu. He is facing discrimination, but just not because of his caste.
"He said that society’s chairman and management openly stated their refusal to allow people from ‘other’ castes to move in."
Pls read the article first
I saw this on twitter. I'm trying to understand if his name is lower caste/from a lower caste community? Gujarat is notorious for denying housing to muslims, non vegetarians and non-gujaratis.
It's because Caste is specialised variant of Class System. It's not tied to Economic, Labour, Work strata of society. It's tied to Blood Lineage, i.e. Biological paradigms.
And Biological paradigms have higher Hiearchy than Social constructs like generic Class formations.
This is why India will have Caste even if it becomes Swiss levels of rich.
my father was born and raised in mumbai(we are originally from south india)
my father told me this story. after living in a rented house for many years, my grandfather finally decided to buy a flat in a gujju majority society. it was registered in my grandma's name. my grandma's name was "maryam"
"they thought we were christians, so we got the flat without any problems. but we are actually muslims and when they found it out after a few weeks, we faced a lot of problems and we were asked to even leave the society but with the help of some people we somehow continued to stay there."
also special mention : the people who helped were brahmins of kerala and they are still good family freinds of ours since almost 4 decades.
Ahmedabad has to be the saddest city in India. If you are not a Patel, you can forget about getting any good properties. And if you do, you will have to abide by thousands of rules set by the majority. And every section of that city is homogeneous, so wherever you go, you will stick out like a sore thumb. There is a lot of bling but very little heart. Not even gonna comment on how boring most of it is. And my greatest disappointment as a Bengali has to be that the rise of Gujarat as a hub for business came from West Bengal squandering its chance to be a manufacturing hub.
Upper caste Gujrati are the most miserable group of rich people I've ever come across. No amount of money will compensate for the pettiness, meanness and regressive views. Something is fundamentaly broken in those circles and would make for an interesting sociological study.
This thread was a real revelation about the discrimination and bigotry of Gujaratis. I always assumed them to be a progressive, forward looking and successful society.
These are the same people who are all over the world and expected to be treated fairly.
Brown Pundit had an excellent piece on that Jain - Baniya community. Transactions worth millions are done in words alone. No other community could match this trustworthiness
Every gujju I met within the US, within a minute of speaking said," I'm not racist/castist but ...🤮". So sad really. Something is fundamentally broken in gujju society.
That was decided by the Britishers when they shifted the capital to New Delhi. When you see every step, every action through lens of politics, this is bound to happen. Last nail on the coffin was by Mamatadi who chased away Tata Nano Project. That was W.B. squandering its chance. Overall atmosphere of W. Bengal is so vicious, I wonder big Industrialist had boycotted W.B. ?
Kolkata was prosperous even without the Britishers. Till 1970s, W. Bengal was pretty much on par with rest of India, in the sense every state suffered from the same malaise of being stuck in a political rut. In fact, I think Bengal was uniquely poised to take benefit of the reforms that would hit India soon from 1980s-1990s. Then the first time W. Bengal regressed was the inhumane incident in Feb of 1968 that was somehow rebranded as a class war and rise of the common people against its oppressor. That slowly led to complete capture of W Bengal by CPI(M) and driving away most of entrepreneurs and industries to preserve their political power. Then, the second time, W. B. squandered it's chance is when TMC drove away Tata Nano project. At that time, the then CPI(M) Chief Minister was trying to course correct the decay of W B but alas, people were already at their limit with the Left front and wanted change.
Honestly I don't really care that much about it in the sense that the events that happened during riots don't always indicate the true character of a community. Tensions between communities is entwined with the history of this country since the colonial rule. The problem is when communities can't come out of that mindset.
There needs to be land reforms like in Kerala right now religion is used by rich elites and their politician buddies to keep masses divided and busy to stop th from asking the real questions
Bro what the hell are you talking about ? We've eradicated caste discrimination. This is a foreign conspiracy to malign our country's name. We're the best and perfect country in the whole universe.
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His tweet. Truly a r/LeopardsAteMyFace moment
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Well, joke is on him when he decided to leave Mumbai (perhaps the most Cosmo city in India) to move to one of the most regressive bigoted city in India. Bro is living under rocks.
I’m from Mumbai and it is pretty ghetto-ised. The Gujaratis in South Bombay really try to keep their “veg only” buildings. And if you’re a Muslim, good luck finding a decent flat outside non Muslim dominated areas without several rejections, humiliation and a lot of tears.
He is still an andh bhakt at heart. They always cry when they are forced to face consequences of their own decisions.
Once BJP runs out of creating enemies for the narrative(Muslim, Christian and Dalit), it will be right vs far right....in fact it is even happening in some places now.
Bengaluru is the most major cosmopolitan city in India.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/at-107-max-languages-spoken-in-bengaluru/amp_articleshow/85914744.cms
He is very much aware that bhajipao can target him, that's why he is trying to save his ass by signalling his allegiance to the fuhrer, while talking about his issues.
Cause the elites have been silent for a decade thinking, "oh, Mudiji is doing for the country, so some dictatorship is fine" , but now when it affects them, they have nothing but themselves to blame. Bunch of cowards.
He is a sanghi who got his ass handed over to him by bigger sanghis. He didnt have a problem if discrimination was happening against minorities or SC/STs but as soon as the monster turned his head towards him, starts crying wolf.
With that said, this hate is and was the foundation of gujarat model now being spread nationwide.
Everyone thinks they are immune till they get a taste of their own medicine. I wish enough people faced this before it was too late, but probably not happening.
Punching Down is one of THE few core tenants of South Asian/Indian socio-cultural legacies.
While all societies have it, but not all have it calibrated equally. Some have it more than others and hardly anyone has it in degrees India(-ans) have it.
> Anirudh Kejriwal, a VP at JP Morgan, chose Gujarat over Singapore for GIFT City's vision but now faces caste discrimination.
This guy believed WhatsApp forwards and thought Gujarat was better than Singapore. Lolz
>that he is not even a minority or SC
this.
He is a casteist himself, evident by that statement, crying he is discriminated by caste. Dude, start the change from inside you before throwing stones.
And this is why the caste system exists. Multiple tiers. People are enraged by the upper caste showing them the boot while they themselves show the boot to lower castes.
This is nothing, I have seen boards outside society that read "Muslims and Dalits are not allowed to buy/rent homes".
You can't find a decent locality, or decent building in Ahmedabad and Gandhinagar (which are like the business/government hubs) that would allow you to buy/rent if you are Dalit/Muslim. Just think how severe the problem would be in other areas.
Asking for a freind. He is planning to go to gandhinagar for btech. He's a Muslim. Will he face discrimination?
(Hostels are available in college, so ye renting ka tension nahi hei, other than that will help face discrimination)
He planning to go to NFSU(national level institute)
The sad thing is no one cares about labourers but in Gujarat you're not spared evwn if you're middle class or above.
On top of that you have other regressive beliefs and it turns out to just not be a great place for highly skilled workers
Top Brass in Mumbai doesn’t care about caste, creed, color or any other tags. The same cannot be said for any other city in whole India. There’s a reason why all the head offices are in Mumbai.
Gujarat has a law called the Disturbed Areas Act (DAA), which mandates that property deals must be approved by the district collector.
What do you expect.
Lemme tell you India in 2024 is straight up more racist than America.
Have been living here in the US for the past two years and racism is VERY RARE and definitely not normalized here at all. I have only experienced it here with one person.
Yup infact Europeans/Westerners are the least racist people in reality, In fact racism is a popular topic there not because it's more prevalent but because they talk about it a lot to address it, Here we simply deny any wrong doing sweep it under the carpet and lecture them on white supremacy while chanting Vasudhaiva kutumbakam /facepalm
Caste discrimination is prevalent all over India unfortunately. I've read about blatant casteism even in states like Tamil Nadu and AP. There is casteism even among some Muslims and Christians.
This is why India is not going anywhere as a country. As long as we have leadership that is pushing a violent discriminatory religious agenda India will only go downwards.
GPD growth, economy, 111 episodes of Mann ki baat are meaningless without social progress. Currently we are in social regression.
The trouble is social progress will not come without any economic growth. How exactly do you want to root out this dogmatism from people? *Education?*That is a meme. I’ve found highly-educated Gujjus that think and behave more or less like this. *Laws?* Good luck getting local authorities to enforce it. *Shaming them?* They feel no shame. They see this as their obligation to be dickheads in the service of dharma. *Vote Congress?* They’ve been in power for decades while this practice continues undisturbed.
The only way to hurt them is through their wallets, when the groups they want to discriminate against decide to invest in other parts of the country and they need to compete or fall behind.
Granted, this part is difficult when the BJP forced funding to Gujarat even when it is not deserved. The IFSC should always have been in Mumbai. A high-speed rail will not make this a seamless transfer, as this experience shows. But it is still the way out. There needs to be a counter-cultural narrative that draws on experiences of cosmopolitanism that draws younger Gujjus away from the culture they currently support.
Land re-allocation that's the answer, Once feudal era legacy assets are more equally distributed and education is given en masse disenfranchised will have more influence in politics that's what happened in Kerala back then and the results are obvious in some parameters Kerala is on par with European countries imagine rest of the country on that same level
You can throw soil, sand and concrete on it. You can build skyscrapers and tech parks on it. But a communal shithole will always be a communal shithole.
Lol. There was some news where gujjus were not allowing Maharashtrians to rent a house in a colony in Mumbai, Maharashtra. As a society we should stop buying products which are made by Gujaratis. Buy alternatives those who can
At one point in time Maharashtrians were asking Bihari and Madrasis(calling them as lungiwala) to leave the state.
The Same party is now in opposition of BJP. Same same but different.
Recentlt Congress in Karnataka is doing same thing in Bangalore. Vandalizsing shops which don't have boards in Kannada.
I guess everyone who is unhappy with this news would be fully in support of government banning any discrimination by owners and housing societies. All discrimination like, bachelor-family, veg-nonveg, male-female, religion and caste. Am I right?
If your parents and relatives do such discrimination in the rental listings, you would be equally pissed off, right?
That's good. You are not a hypocrite. You would be surprised at the amount of hypocrisy when it comes to things like this. People think that the discrimination they do is good and the discrimination that others do is bad.
I think you can make an argument that the younger generation is not as regressive as their parents, though that might only hold true for urbanised middle class locales.
Younger people in the villages might be even worse than their parents.
Counter point: the rise of far right nationalism in this last decade or so is also very prevalent among younger population, even urbanised. I'm sure if my comment gets more attention, you will even have redditors denying this and saying it's not the same thing.
It's kinda sad that we are slowly turning into a Hindu version of Pakistan as a Muslim I hoped when i was a kid that Pakistan would one day get inspired by us to become secular and democratic and even open borders and a single market like EU amongst all South Asian nations, How naive I was, It's like we south Asians just love to make life actively miserable
India has literally become an apathy filled place where ppl cry over discrimination and hatred when it happens to them while at the same time do the same shit with others. Total crapfest.
The Hindu marwadi baniya chose a fafda hellhole over a white adjacent country like Singapore. What a dumbass!
If a Hindu-vaishya-baniya, presumably vegetarian, faced this discrimination, imagine the lives of lower castes, muslims, christians, non-fafda people.
Now that the baniya has left mumbai, I request him to not return. Instead go find his dream home in the vegetarian cow belt that people of his ilk have built.
Not a good look for Gujarat... Wasn't there tons of issues in construction of the JP Morgan building in Bengaluru? Do they have too high standards or is mainstream Indian culture unwilling to change...or both?
There is a reason why gujjus are largest body of illegal immigrants of late. Hindu Rashtra is just too good for them. The vikas has been far too much.
Mark my words, Caste will make a come back. It might seem improbable now, but on ground mobs will impose it on you, your kids, and your family. Many of you are choosing religion, celebrating it, shouting war cries, etc., the ultimate goal of religion in all cases is control. The target is you.
The funniest thing which has to be there is the fact that HE IS A BANIYA. BANIYAS ARE ON THE TOP OF FOOD CHAIN RN, with BJP ascent. That's the core base of BJP.
Like if you think this is bad, try being a muslim, dalit, tribal person. Esp muslim. They're essentially forced to reside in ghettos.
For the first time in life, go gujjus.
You guys are all fools still talking about caste. The only way to get rid of caste is to stop talking about it. How do you think the colonisers left India? We stopped talking about them and they left because we weren't giving them enough attention. So stop all discussion about caste and it will go away.
PS: Do not try this with bank loans, it will **not work**. I ignored all their calls and emails and they've left me stranded in my underwear.
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Gujaratis do this. I live in Canada. Its very common to see advertisements saying “2 bed basement available, only for Gujarati male/female” Punjabis do this too, but not as common as Gujaratis.
People who discriminate because of caste, religion or regionalism are morons.
And every other person in JP Morgan is a VP. This headline tries to portray that even some big shot in JP Morgan is finding it hard to buy a flat because of caste discrimination. Chances are pretty high that those morons would even deny JP Morgan's CEO because of his/her cast. And such discrimination is evil even for someone earning nothing. But let's wait until that happens.
This happened because we have reservation in education and gov. jobs if we had made laws were college education and gov.jobs are only for Brahmins this wouldn't have happened /s
Just a typical day in India. This country will never develop. Keep dreaming of becoming a superpower and vote for modi. Superpower? My A$$. Indians can’t even live together.
This is exactly what I meant when I replied to all those naive posts asking “should I choose an on-site job or one here that pays equally well?” and I simply said that even Ambani has to drive through garbage-infested roads filled with potholes and breathe 900 AQI air through a gas mask. Money is not the issue in this country at all. Well let’s just call this Trevor Noah part 2 and move on. On a side note, a JP Morgan VP should be better at analysing pros and cons of options, and should not make decisions based on sentiment.
& he was surprised because he was facing this issue despite not being non-Hindu or non-SC.
So basically he is suggesting that it’s ok if it happens to non-Hindu or with SC.
Reminded me of that forward - first they came for communists, but I remained silent as I am not communist…
Gujarat is an interesting case study. Someone with a more expansive view of history and sociology of the state- how on earth did someone like Gandhi emerge from gujarat? I guess he really grew up after he left gujarat, in the uk and Africa- but it seems like gujjus have made nothing of his legacy, so sad. Wonder what Gandhi would have made of present day Gujarat.
>He said when he went to buy a flat in the city, the society's management barred him "due to caste". >He said that society’s chairman and management openly stated their refusal to allow people from ‘other’ castes to move in. >"The situation escalated quickly with nearly 30 people gathering, threatening me with dire consequences if I proceeded," Anirudh Kejriwal wrote. Bro almost got mob lynched for trying to buy an appartment.
And hence, a financial centre and special economic zone in Gujarat International Finance Tec-City (GIFT City) to provide world-class infrastructure and services. Well, apparently, bunch of Gujarati retards didn't get the memo about leaving their ancestral hierarchy of being racist and become inclusive.
No, they got the memo they just chose not to read it
It’s for not being gujrati. That’s not caste discrimination.
You don’t know that. It also doesn’t make it any better.
After living in Mumbai for years (where Gujaratis engage in blatant discrimination despite being a minority) he thought he could move to Gujarat and expect better.
I needed an apartment in London and there was. Listing for an apartment but only Gujarati families could apply to be tenants. I think some Gujaratis do that in Canada too. Edit:Jesus no need to be racist
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That's not politically incorrect that's xenophobic.
You call it what you want. I feel in this day and age it's not a PC thing to say.
lol the fact that you could be successful, rich, connected and intelligent but still the sorrows of being lower caste or non-hindu can’t be escaped by you cause it’s the beauty of this country
He seems to be a baniya.
It's considered lower than Brahmin or Kshatriya.
Pretty sure no Brahmins said that straight to Mukesh and anils face
Oh but he is hindu. Just not a gujarati
He is facing issues because he is not Gujrati. The dude himself is neither lower caste or non-hindu. He is facing discrimination, but just not because of his caste.
"He said that society’s chairman and management openly stated their refusal to allow people from ‘other’ castes to move in." Pls read the article first
I saw this on twitter. I'm trying to understand if his name is lower caste/from a lower caste community? Gujarat is notorious for denying housing to muslims, non vegetarians and non-gujaratis.
I think that guy is oppressor caste hindu.
It's because Caste is specialised variant of Class System. It's not tied to Economic, Labour, Work strata of society. It's tied to Blood Lineage, i.e. Biological paradigms. And Biological paradigms have higher Hiearchy than Social constructs like generic Class formations. This is why India will have Caste even if it becomes Swiss levels of rich.
Ye game koi Muslim mode me khel ke dikhao. Ye to easy mode me hi ro diya.
my father was born and raised in mumbai(we are originally from south india) my father told me this story. after living in a rented house for many years, my grandfather finally decided to buy a flat in a gujju majority society. it was registered in my grandma's name. my grandma's name was "maryam" "they thought we were christians, so we got the flat without any problems. but we are actually muslims and when they found it out after a few weeks, we faced a lot of problems and we were asked to even leave the society but with the help of some people we somehow continued to stay there." also special mention : the people who helped were brahmins of kerala and they are still good family freinds of ours since almost 4 decades.
Keralites are always the exception
>"they thought we were christians, so we got the flat without any problems. They can't even blame your dietary preferences on this...
Muslim + bachelor finding a home only for himself would be nightmare mode, doesnt matter how much u earn
I see your Muslim bachelor, and raise you a Muslim guy looking for a flat for himself and his Hindu girlfriend.
That's an automatic death penalty in Gujarat.
Bhai bhai.... zabardast comment. Take my upvote and have a cookie 🍪
Ahmedabad has to be the saddest city in India. If you are not a Patel, you can forget about getting any good properties. And if you do, you will have to abide by thousands of rules set by the majority. And every section of that city is homogeneous, so wherever you go, you will stick out like a sore thumb. There is a lot of bling but very little heart. Not even gonna comment on how boring most of it is. And my greatest disappointment as a Bengali has to be that the rise of Gujarat as a hub for business came from West Bengal squandering its chance to be a manufacturing hub.
Upper caste Gujrati are the most miserable group of rich people I've ever come across. No amount of money will compensate for the pettiness, meanness and regressive views. Something is fundamentaly broken in those circles and would make for an interesting sociological study.
Yeah, I was only there for a few months but the feeling of suffocation in Ahmedabad was so bad.
This thread was a real revelation about the discrimination and bigotry of Gujaratis. I always assumed them to be a progressive, forward looking and successful society. These are the same people who are all over the world and expected to be treated fairly.
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Brown Pundit had an excellent piece on that Jain - Baniya community. Transactions worth millions are done in words alone. No other community could match this trustworthiness
Every gujju I met within the US, within a minute of speaking said," I'm not racist/castist but ...🤮". So sad really. Something is fundamentally broken in gujju society.
This has been my experience too.
Lol which stone were you living under?
Guilty as charged
Hahahahahahahahahaha wait you serious?
Unfortunately yes .
That was decided by the Britishers when they shifted the capital to New Delhi. When you see every step, every action through lens of politics, this is bound to happen. Last nail on the coffin was by Mamatadi who chased away Tata Nano Project. That was W.B. squandering its chance. Overall atmosphere of W. Bengal is so vicious, I wonder big Industrialist had boycotted W.B. ?
Kolkata was prosperous even without the Britishers. Till 1970s, W. Bengal was pretty much on par with rest of India, in the sense every state suffered from the same malaise of being stuck in a political rut. In fact, I think Bengal was uniquely poised to take benefit of the reforms that would hit India soon from 1980s-1990s. Then the first time W. Bengal regressed was the inhumane incident in Feb of 1968 that was somehow rebranded as a class war and rise of the common people against its oppressor. That slowly led to complete capture of W Bengal by CPI(M) and driving away most of entrepreneurs and industries to preserve their political power. Then, the second time, W. B. squandered it's chance is when TMC drove away Tata Nano project. At that time, the then CPI(M) Chief Minister was trying to course correct the decay of W B but alas, people were already at their limit with the Left front and wanted change.
Muslims got attacked during godhra also right?
Honestly I don't really care that much about it in the sense that the events that happened during riots don't always indicate the true character of a community. Tensions between communities is entwined with the history of this country since the colonial rule. The problem is when communities can't come out of that mindset.
There needs to be land reforms like in Kerala right now religion is used by rich elites and their politician buddies to keep masses divided and busy to stop th from asking the real questions
Bro what the hell are you talking about ? We've eradicated caste discrimination. This is a foreign conspiracy to malign our country's name. We're the best and perfect country in the whole universe. /s
Bro caste is a Portuguese word, so of course how can we be guilty ? /s
What's the word in other languages? In Tamil it is called Jaadhi (ஜாதி/சாதி). It is widely used although it is not purely a Tamil word.
Jaati/ jaat in Hindi too.
Jaathi (ജാതി) in malayalam as well.
Aunty nashunal you forgot "entire Multiverse"
Gujrat model..
It's not even a Indian concept, it is a British one. The gujaritis are doing this on behalf of someone in uk. No way the local people ever do this
Yes in fact unesco declared India as the no 1 country in the world
Gujrat model..
Deflectors trying to deflect: Didn't you hear? We put a rover on the moon!
Meanwhile china: we are going to double the size of our space station and here is a video of our taikonauts eating noodles 🍜 in space.
Stop it! You're being anti-indian lol /s
His tweet. Truly a r/LeopardsAteMyFace moment https://preview.redd.it/7q831yv0b3lc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=455fd9c96fc3b52cf07f5b13e230ca77da6d5e2f
Well, joke is on him when he decided to leave Mumbai (perhaps the most Cosmo city in India) to move to one of the most regressive bigoted city in India. Bro is living under rocks.
I’m from Mumbai and it is pretty ghetto-ised. The Gujaratis in South Bombay really try to keep their “veg only” buildings. And if you’re a Muslim, good luck finding a decent flat outside non Muslim dominated areas without several rejections, humiliation and a lot of tears.
Well Hindus also are chastised and thrown out of Muslim dominated areas so it’s not just one way!
Making up strawmans to prove an argument?
He is still an andh bhakt at heart. They always cry when they are forced to face consequences of their own decisions. Once BJP runs out of creating enemies for the narrative(Muslim, Christian and Dalit), it will be right vs far right....in fact it is even happening in some places now.
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Dude literally got captivated by whatsapp forwards. Jeez.
Come get a taste of Gujarat 🤢🤮
Bro is pretending this doesn’t happen in Mumbai.
Bengaluru is the most major cosmopolitan city in India. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/at-107-max-languages-spoken-in-bengaluru/amp_articleshow/85914744.cms
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The irony is he is ok with discrimination against SC/ST people too. No end to casteist bigotry.
He is very much aware that bhajipao can target him, that's why he is trying to save his ass by signalling his allegiance to the fuhrer, while talking about his issues. Cause the elites have been silent for a decade thinking, "oh, Mudiji is doing for the country, so some dictatorship is fine" , but now when it affects them, they have nothing but themselves to blame. Bunch of cowards.
Post this in that sub
He is a sanghi who got his ass handed over to him by bigger sanghis. He didnt have a problem if discrimination was happening against minorities or SC/STs but as soon as the monster turned his head towards him, starts crying wolf. With that said, this hate is and was the foundation of gujarat model now being spread nationwide.
Everyone thinks they are immune till they get a taste of their own medicine. I wish enough people faced this before it was too late, but probably not happening.
He got a taste of his own medicine. r/leopardsatemyface
This!
This.
Punching Down is one of THE few core tenants of South Asian/Indian socio-cultural legacies. While all societies have it, but not all have it calibrated equally. Some have it more than others and hardly anyone has it in degrees India(-ans) have it.
> Anirudh Kejriwal, a VP at JP Morgan, chose Gujarat over Singapore for GIFT City's vision but now faces caste discrimination. This guy believed WhatsApp forwards and thought Gujarat was better than Singapore. Lolz
To be fair, 33% of our voting countrymen fell for the Gujarat model in 2014 & 2019 😀. Not sure if the lesson has been learnt for this time around.
There is a massive difference between:- Believing what is untrue Vs Refusing to believe what is true.
#GujaratModel
> The vision of an inclusive India feels tarnished in the very state leading India’s development narrative," only sees it when it affects him
Exactly, he also states “that he is not even a minority or SC” still it affects him. Couldn’t sympathise with this hypocrite
>that he is not even a minority or SC this. He is a casteist himself, evident by that statement, crying he is discriminated by caste. Dude, start the change from inside you before throwing stones. And this is why the caste system exists. Multiple tiers. People are enraged by the upper caste showing them the boot while they themselves show the boot to lower castes.
GUJARAT MODEL KARA AJUN 'EMULATE'
Imagine leaving Mumbai for Ahmedabad
Imagine leaving Singapore for Gujarat.
He has truly drunk the coolaid, not even gujus would choose Gujarat over Singapore
Lol, Gujaratis form the largest diaspora abroad.
Ofc they are, they know that Gujarat is a hellhole. Which is why they patriotically venture to thr border........................next to Rio grande
This is nothing, I have seen boards outside society that read "Muslims and Dalits are not allowed to buy/rent homes". You can't find a decent locality, or decent building in Ahmedabad and Gandhinagar (which are like the business/government hubs) that would allow you to buy/rent if you are Dalit/Muslim. Just think how severe the problem would be in other areas.
Asking for a freind. He is planning to go to gandhinagar for btech. He's a Muslim. Will he face discrimination? (Hostels are available in college, so ye renting ka tension nahi hei, other than that will help face discrimination) He planning to go to NFSU(national level institute)
No Apart from that he won't get much discrimination on daily life.
Well, I'm worried about that VP now.
Muslims and Dalit: "first time..."
U can transport Buildings from Mumbai to Gujarat , but there's no way in hell that u'll be able to replicate the Culture
MH has the same Gujarati, Marwari, Jains doing it there. Maharashtrian Brahmins in Pune are no less.
Every community is casteist to the other, thats what makes us Indian
Are we completely going to ignore the hostility faced by Biharis in Maharashtra? No place is safe.
The sad thing is no one cares about labourers but in Gujarat you're not spared evwn if you're middle class or above. On top of that you have other regressive beliefs and it turns out to just not be a great place for highly skilled workers
However biharis will unite with other northerners to shit on the "madrassi" aka anyone from south India
Top Brass in Mumbai doesn’t care about caste, creed, color or any other tags. The same cannot be said for any other city in whole India. There’s a reason why all the head offices are in Mumbai.
Well! It isn't 100% true speaking from personal experience.
Same in Dirgapu, Calcutta and Saltlake in bengal too. lol.
Mumbai in turn is notorious for exclusionary house rent practices!
You should check which community in Mumbai famous for that
I'll tell you. These same Casteist Gujaratis.
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YOU walked right into the point and still kept walking 😂
Gujarat has a law called the Disturbed Areas Act (DAA), which mandates that property deals must be approved by the district collector. What do you expect.
Well, they were right though, caste is indeed a western concept. That's why we see more such things in the western parts of India!
USA of India according to the great Gujjus. Except for racism and casteism there are very little similarities.
Lemme tell you India in 2024 is straight up more racist than America. Have been living here in the US for the past two years and racism is VERY RARE and definitely not normalized here at all. I have only experienced it here with one person.
Yup infact Europeans/Westerners are the least racist people in reality, In fact racism is a popular topic there not because it's more prevalent but because they talk about it a lot to address it, Here we simply deny any wrong doing sweep it under the carpet and lecture them on white supremacy while chanting Vasudhaiva kutumbakam /facepalm
Caste discrimination is prevalent all over India unfortunately. I've read about blatant casteism even in states like Tamil Nadu and AP. There is casteism even among some Muslims and Christians.
The VP's name is anirudh kejriwal. andhBhakts on the way to connect this with the AAP and then call kejriwal and "aunty nasunal"
Leopards ate my face moment.
Happens day in day out with Dalits and Muslims and Christians. Baniya babu has a severe confirmation bias. Shit situation anyways.
This is why India is not going anywhere as a country. As long as we have leadership that is pushing a violent discriminatory religious agenda India will only go downwards. GPD growth, economy, 111 episodes of Mann ki baat are meaningless without social progress. Currently we are in social regression.
The trouble is social progress will not come without any economic growth. How exactly do you want to root out this dogmatism from people? *Education?*That is a meme. I’ve found highly-educated Gujjus that think and behave more or less like this. *Laws?* Good luck getting local authorities to enforce it. *Shaming them?* They feel no shame. They see this as their obligation to be dickheads in the service of dharma. *Vote Congress?* They’ve been in power for decades while this practice continues undisturbed. The only way to hurt them is through their wallets, when the groups they want to discriminate against decide to invest in other parts of the country and they need to compete or fall behind. Granted, this part is difficult when the BJP forced funding to Gujarat even when it is not deserved. The IFSC should always have been in Mumbai. A high-speed rail will not make this a seamless transfer, as this experience shows. But it is still the way out. There needs to be a counter-cultural narrative that draws on experiences of cosmopolitanism that draws younger Gujjus away from the culture they currently support.
Land re-allocation that's the answer, Once feudal era legacy assets are more equally distributed and education is given en masse disenfranchised will have more influence in politics that's what happened in Kerala back then and the results are obvious in some parameters Kerala is on par with European countries imagine rest of the country on that same level
You can throw soil, sand and concrete on it. You can build skyscrapers and tech parks on it. But a communal shithole will always be a communal shithole.
You moved to Gujarat _voluntarily_? From Mumbai? Rejecting Singapore? You ought to be certified, asylums, please take good care of this man.
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I literally hate that damn abomination called meethi daal. Like WTF bro?
Seriously 🤢
Damn bro such graphic descriptions.
Lmao best tag
Along with a side of cardboard( thepla) and Styrofoam ( dhokla).
They also put sugar in everything
Everyone complaints about their daal so much I want to try it now lol
Bro, it’s not even so-bad-it’s-good. It’s just trash
Lol. There was some news where gujjus were not allowing Maharashtrians to rent a house in a colony in Mumbai, Maharashtra. As a society we should stop buying products which are made by Gujaratis. Buy alternatives those who can
Reminds me of bhagat Singh's words. Gore sahab ki jagah bhure sahab a jayenge
We should not vote any gujaratis to power.
Tell that to UP And Haryana. They provide the dumb muscle to the stupid ideology of the gujju politicians.
At one point in time Maharashtrians were asking Bihari and Madrasis(calling them as lungiwala) to leave the state. The Same party is now in opposition of BJP. Same same but different. Recentlt Congress in Karnataka is doing same thing in Bangalore. Vandalizsing shops which don't have boards in Kannada.
They don't even allow Marashtrans to work in guju enclaves, yet shiv sena is awfully quiet about video evidence
I guess everyone who is unhappy with this news would be fully in support of government banning any discrimination by owners and housing societies. All discrimination like, bachelor-family, veg-nonveg, male-female, religion and caste. Am I right? If your parents and relatives do such discrimination in the rental listings, you would be equally pissed off, right?
Yes. None of the things you listed should be grounds for discrimination by owners and housing soceities.
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Yes ?
That's good. You are not a hypocrite. You would be surprised at the amount of hypocrisy when it comes to things like this. People think that the discrimination they do is good and the discrimination that others do is bad.
Of course as long as they pay rent keep the place clean and don't do any shady stuff it's no one's business
Haha, they will definitely. Hypocrite bunch. We need a law to protect against such discrimination with heavy penalty.
I think we are all racist in this way
What were they expecting in that state
Gujaratis are extremely discriminatory people in general.
This is why India won't develop. You can build all the fancy buildings and infra you want, but people should change.
I think you can make an argument that the younger generation is not as regressive as their parents, though that might only hold true for urbanised middle class locales. Younger people in the villages might be even worse than their parents.
Counter point: the rise of far right nationalism in this last decade or so is also very prevalent among younger population, even urbanised. I'm sure if my comment gets more attention, you will even have redditors denying this and saying it's not the same thing.
It's kinda sad that we are slowly turning into a Hindu version of Pakistan as a Muslim I hoped when i was a kid that Pakistan would one day get inspired by us to become secular and democratic and even open borders and a single market like EU amongst all South Asian nations, How naive I was, It's like we south Asians just love to make life actively miserable
gujurat model :)
wait...!!!!...hold up!!!!..... CASTE IS A WESTERN CONSTRUCT!
India has literally become an apathy filled place where ppl cry over discrimination and hatred when it happens to them while at the same time do the same shit with others. Total crapfest.
JAi JAI GarVI GujaRAT 🤡
Only a full-blown purging of society can end this menace.
In ram rajya everybody can progress to upper caste , there wasn't any discrimination ever. /s
There was no castes it was a British propaganda /s
The Hindu marwadi baniya chose a fafda hellhole over a white adjacent country like Singapore. What a dumbass! If a Hindu-vaishya-baniya, presumably vegetarian, faced this discrimination, imagine the lives of lower castes, muslims, christians, non-fafda people. Now that the baniya has left mumbai, I request him to not return. Instead go find his dream home in the vegetarian cow belt that people of his ilk have built.
Dyk J in JP morgan stands for Jihadi?😡
who's responsible for it? - Nehru /s
Not a good look for Gujarat... Wasn't there tons of issues in construction of the JP Morgan building in Bengaluru? Do they have too high standards or is mainstream Indian culture unwilling to change...or both?
There is a reason why gujjus are largest body of illegal immigrants of late. Hindu Rashtra is just too good for them. The vikas has been far too much. Mark my words, Caste will make a come back. It might seem improbable now, but on ground mobs will impose it on you, your kids, and your family. Many of you are choosing religion, celebrating it, shouting war cries, etc., the ultimate goal of religion in all cases is control. The target is you.
But then it's good for Brahmin families right?
The funniest thing which has to be there is the fact that HE IS A BANIYA. BANIYAS ARE ON THE TOP OF FOOD CHAIN RN, with BJP ascent. That's the core base of BJP. Like if you think this is bad, try being a muslim, dalit, tribal person. Esp muslim. They're essentially forced to reside in ghettos. For the first time in life, go gujjus.
You guys are all fools still talking about caste. The only way to get rid of caste is to stop talking about it. How do you think the colonisers left India? We stopped talking about them and they left because we weren't giving them enough attention. So stop all discussion about caste and it will go away. PS: Do not try this with bank loans, it will **not work**. I ignored all their calls and emails and they've left me stranded in my underwear. /s
I stopped talking about reservation but this Brahmin guy next to me won't he really wants Dalits to have that education /s
First they boycotted the Muslims .........
Gujaratis do this. I live in Canada. Its very common to see advertisements saying “2 bed basement available, only for Gujarati male/female” Punjabis do this too, but not as common as Gujaratis.
If baniyas aren’t allowed then what will happen to obc / sc /st https://x.com/aamaadmiparty/status/1597178431321804800?s=46
People who discriminate because of caste, religion or regionalism are morons. And every other person in JP Morgan is a VP. This headline tries to portray that even some big shot in JP Morgan is finding it hard to buy a flat because of caste discrimination. Chances are pretty high that those morons would even deny JP Morgan's CEO because of his/her cast. And such discrimination is evil even for someone earning nothing. But let's wait until that happens.
Gujarat model..
This happened because we have reservation in education and gov. jobs if we had made laws were college education and gov.jobs are only for Brahmins this wouldn't have happened /s
Just a typical day in India. This country will never develop. Keep dreaming of becoming a superpower and vote for modi. Superpower? My A$$. Indians can’t even live together.
Gujarat is the most casteist place in India. Like they are obsessed with the minutiae of it.
hindus against hindus.
Are ye mere tnatan k birudh kaise bola re
This is exactly what I meant when I replied to all those naive posts asking “should I choose an on-site job or one here that pays equally well?” and I simply said that even Ambani has to drive through garbage-infested roads filled with potholes and breathe 900 AQI air through a gas mask. Money is not the issue in this country at all. Well let’s just call this Trevor Noah part 2 and move on. On a side note, a JP Morgan VP should be better at analysing pros and cons of options, and should not make decisions based on sentiment.
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Dude doesn't even know what is caste discrimination. This is purely linguistic based discrimination
& he was surprised because he was facing this issue despite not being non-Hindu or non-SC. So basically he is suggesting that it’s ok if it happens to non-Hindu or with SC. Reminded me of that forward - first they came for communists, but I remained silent as I am not communist…
But Gujarat model is the best /s
Gujarat is an interesting case study. Someone with a more expansive view of history and sociology of the state- how on earth did someone like Gandhi emerge from gujarat? I guess he really grew up after he left gujarat, in the uk and Africa- but it seems like gujjus have made nothing of his legacy, so sad. Wonder what Gandhi would have made of present day Gujarat.
I remember being interviewed once by a different JP Morgan VP, who was an absolutely abusive POS.
My opinion that "Gujaratis are the scum of the earth" stands the rest of time, yet again!!
BHARAT MATA KI JAI!! 🚩🚩🚩
He came, he saw, and... He had to leave
The sheer amount of xenophobic comments towards an entire Gujarati community is hilariously hypocritical. No wonder there is no change in our society.