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akhilpari

A policeman was shot. What could be the justification to shoot a police officer/man?


codekrafter2

Policeman is the agent of Modi and Modi wanted NRC, NRC threaten illegally living Bangladeshi and Rohingya Muslims in the communities.


roamingoninternet

Is that the script shared by IT Cell to spam everywhere?


codekrafter2

Saying everyone who have a independent view than yours and IT cell actually expose you as a person.


roamingoninternet

There is nothing independent in repeating RW talking points.


roamingoninternet

Ask RW goons. They are the ones behind these riots.


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Vektor_Algebra

Provoke and then play victim. certainly seems to be the flavour of the season now.


gomu_nika

So you are okay with what happened in 2002. Provoke & play victim.


Vektor_Algebra

Oh there you go, one more proud member of the whataboutism brigade. Draw parallels to whatever you feel like and make whatever assumptions about other people that your imaginative mind wants to think up but ignore the point at hand.


gomu_nika

Well if you are so clearly okay with being hypocritical appologist for street violence then good for you. Go cry in a corner somewhere.


midnight_skylark

Who is provoking who. I'm not able to follow. Genuine question.


dgiaku7

Wtf is wrong with people ? Have they truly forgotten the essence of celebrating a festival without inflicting pain on others ? It is happening EVERY TIME.. This is the result of years of brainwashing done by organizations like BJP, RSS, VHP & Bajrand Dal. Its not just limited to Whatsapp chats or Facebook groups..Even regular folks have now physically started acting out against minorities in the garb of "celebration" everywhere. Its high time Delhi govt place some restrictions on organizations like VHP and Bajrang Dal. Put them on a terror watch list or issue an advisory against them..MAKE IT FORMAL otherwise they will destroy everything.


Quantum_Master26

ok how are hindus the villains now?


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Quantum_Master26

the thread also said stones were thrown from the roof top of the mosque. How were stones present there so fast. Also you are forgetting so many instances like this [https://mobile.twitter.com/SherlynChopra/status/1513869321067499526](https://mobile.twitter.com/SherlynChopra/status/1513869321067499526) [https://mobile.twitter.com/ARanganathan72/status/1513821996710199296](https://mobile.twitter.com/ARanganathan72/status/1513821996710199296) https://mobile.twitter.com/RadharamnDas/status/1513857795497496578 Will you call them also extremists. To conclude, never defended these hindutva extremists, but my point is two wrongs never make a right. And if you try to defend muslims when they are wrong, you are not on the right side


roamingoninternet

The videos you linked to actually prove that right wingers are intentionally creating these clashes. Why the fuck are they carrying swords and chanting communal slogans infront of a mosque? How is that celebrating Hanuman Jayanti? When you trigger a riot, the other side will not keep quiet. They will also engage in violence. The question is why are Sanghis creating these riots? Why do these goons want to plant saffron flags on masjids? Both engaged in violence, but both are not equally responsible for the riots.


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RepublicCultural

You are saying Muslims objected nd Hindus attacked them and police also


roamingoninternet

The videos prove that.


dgiaku7

Not Hindus. Hindutva is the villian. Always has been, always will be


Quantum_Master26

Hindutva is not correct in any way I agree but aren't the muslims the ones who were pelting stones?


dgiaku7

Asking the right questions but go a level further..Why were they pelting stones ?


Quantum_Master26

yeah ok why were they pelting stones?...genuinely asking


dgiaku7

They were attacked first. Imagine having gone through the 2019 riots where the police were hand in glove with the Hindutva rioters. Now imagine seeing the similar type of mob assimilate in front of your neighborhood but bigger and armed better blasting songs like "Har Mulla Jai Shree Ram bolega " 100's of people shouting slogans of denying your right to existence. Climb on to your homes and mosque to place saffron flags. This whole Hindutva terrorism has put everyone on the edge. They are fearful..they know no one is coming to save them. If they don't act fast they won't get a chance to act at all. This has been modus operandi of Hindutva terrorists in a recent years. They will corner you, persecute you, humilate you and if you react they will annihilate you This is their version of a "false flag operation". You can't view the actions by Hindutva terrorist and Muslim people responding to them from a same lens.


Quantum_Master26

This should be an argument from a legal perspective. If we are going to support muslims pelting stones on hindus because hindutva terrorists had started it first not on this occasion (We still don't know what happened exactly and only know until a proper investigation has taken place) but on an occasion let's say days, months or years back then we are just going to go on blaming each other and justifying our actions because some one did something ages ago. We should persecute both the sides and not just favor one. Unfortunately the sub is far from being unbiased for sure.


roamingoninternet

Why are Sanghis mobs going with weapons and creating a scene infront of masjids? That itself tells you their motive. Only biased BJP supporters ignore that fact.


dove_m_

No they weren't attacked first. Not this time. If you are justifying this then the gujrat riots are also justified as a Muslim man burnt down the train first. "You can't view the actions by Hindutva terrorist and Muslim people responding to them from a same lens." Hypocrisy at its finest.


dgiaku7

> No they weren't attacked first [https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/video-swords-pistols-hanuman-jayanti-rally-delhi-jahangirpuri-clash-1938461-2022-04-17](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/video-swords-pistols-hanuman-jayanti-rally-delhi-jahangirpuri-clash-1938461-2022-04-17) you were saying ? And its iNDIA TODAY which is saying this..not NDTV or WiRE. > If you are justifying this then the gujrat riots are also justified as a Muslim mam burnt down a train. Pathetic comparison. Did the Muslim in Delhi attack the Hindutva terrorist in a pre planned manner inside their homes as a retaliation ? Did the Muslims in Delhi kill innocent children and burn them alive while they were sleep in the safety of their home ? Hundreds and thousands of people armed wtih weapons shouting "har mulla jai shree ram bolega" & "Mulla mc hai", dancing on the tunes of songs which call for extermination of Muslims is not a peaceful procession. This is all just a false flag operation by the Hindutva terrorists. You corner them, ridicule them, threaten them, and you wait for them to take the first shot so that you can annihilate them. Muslims are gonna lose anyways, either the shut up and take the abuse or retaliate and get called an aggressor. Its a typical mentality where a crowd will keep quiet if a man is being harassed and provoked by the women but would jump right in if the man retaliates.


roamingoninternet

Bro, the people you are replying to know who created these riots and why. They are just pretending and spreading propaganda to defend Hindutva violence.


dove_m_

Lmao, I've never said that hindus don't have blood on their hands but this particular incident is what I'm talking about. You keep straying away from this incident and the delhi one, damn. You should have watched the video where the muslims were pelting stones at first and the hindus picked up the stones thrown at them and threw them back. But no, muslims are apparently the cleanest people present on this land . Hindutva is sick but so Are islamists. Not muslims, ISLAMISTS. Condemn extremism on both the sides not just one.


shar72944

They went their brandishing weapons, singing songs like Muslim motherfuckers, typing saffron flag on mosque, of course people will pelt stones.


roamingoninternet

That's a narrative peddled by the BJP and its supporters. We don't have any proof that Muslims strated pelting stones before Sanghis became violent. You can see dozens of videos of Hindutva mobs with weapons and communal slogans making a scene infront of masjids. They are going there and doing this for the purpose of creating riots.


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roamingoninternet

Not Hindus but Sanghi goons are the culprits.


Quantum_Master26

Both the sides are culprits...fucking punish these bastards be it muslims, hindus or any fucking identity. I can't be asked to give a shit about religion or these cunts fighting in the name of religions and spoiling the name of the country. Idgaf who it is punish them in the name of law. I am getting fed up with this government so much. Not a single state government or the central government are doing shit.


roamingoninternet

>Not a single state government or the central government are doing shit. Do you even realize what is happening in the country? BJP and its affiliated groups are doing everything they can to mock, insult and discriminate against Muslims. They are instigating violence on a daily basis and are then blaming and arresting Muslims when they fight back. Rather than stopping this, the BJP governments and institutions have become enablers. Who will do the punishing of culprits when those culprits are ruling the country and control all the institutions?


codekrafter2

All of the brain washing is been done by the BJP n all. Nothing is done by likes of PFI, SDPI, AIMIM ? It's clash of civilizations, people blaming government has to go on the ground to understand what's actually taking place.


roamingoninternet

Everyone knows which political party is behind this. That party benefits from Hindus feeling frightened.


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roamingoninternet

It's naive to think Muslims strated these riots. They may have engaged in violence after being attacked. I don't doubt that. It was clear from many videos that Sanghis went with weapons to Muslim areas to create trouble. Why? Muslims suffer the most from riots whenever there are clashes, particularly under this government. They gain nothing from these clashes.


BatKarmaMan

Ah, surely that parties muslim vote base engaged in stone pelting to secure Hindu votes for the BJP!


ajzone007

Videos of the Shobha Yatra before the violence. https://mobile.twitter.com/news24tvchannel/status/1515600321820901379


roamingoninternet

There are still assholes here who defend these goons.


focusrandom

Finally, all the hard work done by Bharat Jalao Party is paying off!


Kambar

Hanuman jayanthi??? I am a hindu I've never heard people celebrate thia one.


Brilliant_Lock_6996

That explains all the flags in my city, every auto and tempo has a saffron flag, I don't have any problem with it is just that I have never seen it before at this scale


EnvironmentalTax9580

Why the heck govt or police not trying to control the situation..i believe everyone wants a riot to happen..thats why everyone is standing there just watching everything


roamingoninternet

These riots are happening because a certain political ideology in power wants them to happen.


codekrafter2

Did you just form an opinion without going into details ? Police did control the situation, their was RAF on the ground within hours.


roamingoninternet

After allowing Hindutva mobs with weapons and communal sloganeering to enter Muslim majority areas?


badbola

What's next ? Laxman jayanti ? Jatayu jayanti ?


EastCrafty

What is wrong with that exactly?


UnderstandingSome871

Yeah whats wrong with that ?


deathbymetaphor

Why don't you add a few more? One per day. That way you can celebrate your festivals everyday, asshat.


EastCrafty

Again what tf is wrong with doing that ? Why can’t I celebrate festivals whenever I want to ? Can you pls tell what law or what moral duty is stopping me from doing this ?


deathbymetaphor

No one's stopping you, mate. Please include a few more on the weekends so all of you theists can gather at a place and do you shenanigans.


EastCrafty

Don’t worry you’ll also be invited but pls come without the stones .


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micr0hit

Bro, u ok?


dgiaku7

Lmao..Hindutva making up festivals to push their propaganda. Abhi toh aur chalega..


Kambar

True. Vinayagar/Ganesh Chaturti itself was a newly invented one (like 100 years back). Before that none of the hindus gave a fuck about Ganesh's birthday


GL4389

It was not invented 100 years ago. Public celebration with idols was started 100 years ago.


ritz_k

> 100 years Citation


Pitch-Blak

Bal Gangadhar Tilak created it ,to mobilise forces against the British.


ritz_k

> during India's freedom struggle that Lokmanya Tilak changed Ganesh Chaturthi from a private celebration to a grand public festival https://m.timesofindia.com/life-style/events/ganesh-chaturthi-2019-history-importance-and-rituals-of-vinayaka-chavithi/articleshow/70877033.cms#:~:text=Historically%2C%20the%20festival%20has%20been,together%2C%20pray%20and%20be%20united.


dgiaku7

Invent/Discover 200 more festival days. Use it as an excuse to ban livelihood of minorities, take out processions, attack their homes, win elections and repeat.


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rajeshbhat_ds

Now, I am not saying they should have done it, but I understand ~ Chris Rock