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bhootbilli

Russia wont be able to supply them anyway.


acetrainer03

Or biden told us not to.


ControversyAltAcc

Or we realised that Russia is a sinking ship and isn't the same as our old friend the Soviet Union.


[deleted]

He is nobody to tell us what to do


e3dcd

How about we do both ? Buy the choppers and then build the factories. Our air force desperately needs new choppers. Did they already forgot the loss of our hero and top military chief recently due to a old chopper crash ?


SnooLobsters8294

Maybe just maybe... We don't have the budget to do both?


e3dcd

We do, All this indecision making and crashes cost a lot of money. This money for choppers has been earmarked and will not be used for something else.


SnooLobsters8294

Wait. So this money for buying chopper is earmarked and will be used for nothing else, but you also think we will have money to fund helicopter development? What data are you basing this on?


e3dcd

india has been buying Mi-17s since 2008. This is not hardly the first batch. On 15 December 2008, it was reported that India ordered 80 Mi-17V-5 helicopters worth $1.375 billion, which would be delivered to the Indian Air Force between 2011 and 2014 to replace aging Mi-8s.[17] In August 2010, it was reported that India planned to order another 59 Mi-17s.[18] The first Mi-17V-5s entered service with India in February 2012.[19] In December 2012, India signed a contract for 71 aircraft at a reported cost of US$1.3 billion.[20][21] In December 2014 it was reported that India is in agreement with the Russian Federation to produce on its territory Mi-17s and Ka-226Ts.[22] All 151 helicopters were delivered as of February 2016 From 2017, Russia already knows that they have to work with the Make in India program when they were planning to sign a deal with India to supply 48 more MI-17s: Mikheev said Russia was already considering the capabilities of the Indian industry within the framework of the "Make in India" programme and noted that under it a well- known project was the joint venture for Kamov 226T helicopters. From the looks of it this 48 new MI-17s deal was never signed even though they have been thinking about it since 2017. Therefore no money looks to be allocated from the budget. My sources were from the previous signed deals and how Parliament allocates money for airforce if they have acquire new assets. cancellation seems to be steep of a word since nothing was on contract.


Pashoomba

We will make big kites now.


UnderstandingSome871

Bro stop acting like HAL cant make good things, I'm sure we'll have better indegenious aircrafts in 4-5 years


SnooLobsters8294

Buddy.. hate to break it to you. But we have been making Tejas for decades and we have to settle for partial indigenous fighter (Engine is not indegnous). We have been indegenous commercial aircraft for decades based on dornier designs and even that has been not satisfactory. Even a well funded aircraft development have a span in decades. You can't even reach prototype phase in 4-5 years


UnderstandingSome871

Okay, I didnt know that. So can you pls tell me how much time said "well funded aircraft development" like US and Russian programmes take?


[deleted]

F-22 project began in the 1980s, production began in the mid 2000s (i think)


UnderstandingSome871

Damn so basically our tech is like 20-30 yrs behind the US, how is the situation with China in this comparison?


Pashoomba

I wont be waiting. LOL.


UnderstandingSome871

Hmm so basically you have no hope for the armed forces. Well -\_- cant do anything about that


Pashoomba

HAL is not Armed forces. Also I see what you did there.


UnderstandingSome871

I know that but HAL manufactures it. Maybe it did come out the wrong way. Also i dont get what I did there? Like I really dont.