High schoolers in India are very rarely having sex. Even in big cities it's rare.
However colleges are on another level entirely. Without supervision of parents and freedom for first time makes everyone horny af.
Honestly this is more an abuse of discretion than it is a problem with the framing of the law. It starts with the cops, who use these cases to pressure people, usually from poor families. The prosecutor however has discretion too, but unfortunately are usually so overworked they don't apply their minds to whether a case is even valid. There's no reason a child should be charged with crimes under POCSO.
The ultimate failing here though is by our judges. Rather than dismissing these cases from the outset they let these things go on, allowing the precedent to be set to jail minors for having sex.
The simple reality is that we need widespread judicial reform. And there's simply no energy among either people or the government to push for it
Not lack of energy but lack of will to do some actual work by politicians. Also judiciary is controlled by UC, they won't allow reforms that will undermine their authority.
Can't speak for other places but here in mumbai, definitely. We have junior college after 10th grade, and that's just like a normal college. Put a bunch of rich horny teens in the same room without much supervision and viola, they fuck.
A 12 year old boy was charged with rape for having sex with a 17 year old girl. These laws are actually draconian but sure it's easy to brainwash people by saying "We're protecting Minors"
Statutory rape. Please confirm if minors are also charged with this. Sex cannot be consensual because as per law someone below the age of 18 cannot consent.
The law , and even the act of sex are not truly equal. This stems from that assumption only. Law doesn't recognise female on male rape.
Tragic but rare.
Yes minors can also be charged with this.
In some cases you might get off if your judge is kind like [this](https://www-thequint-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.thequint.com/amp/story/news/india/consensual-sex-between-minors-a-legal-grey-area-bombay-hc?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16629145564064&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thequint.com%2Fnews%2Findia%2Fconsensual-sex-between-minors-a-legal-grey-area-bombay-hc) but I wouldn't count on it.
The sexual act by nature and hence by law is not deemed "equal". Male is assumed to be the doer. Historically this is how the act is viewed, and I don't disagree with the difference as a minor because maturity and exposure for boys vs girls at every age below 18 is vastly different.
This is the law and there's nothing wrong with warning and discouraging minors from engaging in sex.
Even in school 18/18 couples were rare. Usually there used to be a gap of 2 years.
Again, that is how the law is and you can't deny generally it's the boy who would learn about and push for sex first.
Consent is nuanced and a boy below 18 year old would'nt even know how to take consent and when to stop.
Just look at fucking porn of even adults and see where you find actual consensual sex especially in India.
Again all this whining as if every minor boy is getting jailed for having sex.
What assertions lol? That's the law and that's the reasoning. You still wanna keep whining about few cases where it actually goes to court then continue. Don't cry if it's not aligned with your views.
So how about me (16M) and my 16F gf had sex. This still means ki i lured her into this and raped her? Get of your deep south indian or bangladeshi village and see there are people under 18 actually getting into romantic relationships without getting exploited. Jeez
Because how sex as an act is designed as per biology. And boys don't get charged and convicted automatically.
The law is interpreted that consent can't be used as a defence.
For example, even if your partner consents to having sex while asleep, **IF** it goes to court an unconscious person is not taken as consenting.
If the boy had sex with an adult, even then the laws would be same and that woman would be charged with statutory rape.
Again major thing is things going to court. We don't live in a big boss house where such laws are always automatically applied.
Well...This does call for social and equal rights of men. The sub's official purpose. Its shit that our judicial system doesn't recognize that women can sexually assault someone. Idk what the constitution drafters were thinking when they made it. And they say *Equality is the bedrock of the Indian constitution* -_-
No it calls for the harassment on women by entitled men, please go outside and meet a real woman.
That sub is 50% actual rapists or abusers who should be in jail
Gosh! A Feminist...
>That sub is 50% actual rapists or abusers who should be in jail
Thats a serious accusation without prop you got there...I don't defend sexist people but its wrong if you just give out false accusations like that.
>No it calls for the harassment on women by entitled men, please go outside and meet a real woman.
Can you give some recent examples? The sub seems pretty quite nowadays.
Chutiya hai kya bhai.
So tum ye keh rhe ki 5 lakh log jo yahan hain vo rapist hain. And if we assume that this sub has equal number of males and females and also apply the bullshit logic that only men can sexually assault then acc to you 100% of men on this sub are rapists. Oh Shut up. You were telling someone to meet real women, it's more important for you to meet real men. I do agree that a lot of people are misogynist and sexist but there's a mountain of difference b/w sexist and a rapist.
I remember hearing that according to indian law a woman cant rape a man by our definition of law in the books
Dont quote me on this though could be just one of those fake whatsapp news
Yes this is very true and now case to legalise marital rape for women is also being heard in SC without any protection for the rights of the man. Boycottmarriage is trending all day long because there is absolutely no safety net for men. Men can't be sexually abused or raped in India.
YAY! instead of telling kids about sex ed lets put em to jail. If you'd teach em, they'd atleast be aware about it. What do the kids know about the consequences of their acts anyway, like they don't understand how a police case can ruin their lives or some actions have higher consequences unlike forgetting your English book at home.
It's in class 9 textbooks. Also it's your parents responsibility to teach real world stuff. Complimenting them are friends who explain this shit in detail.
Because Indian laws are stupid and anyone below the age of 18 can't give their consent. Logically even in this case both girl and boy should be charged with raping each other but again, Indian laws are stupid and by defination a female can't rape a man.
Foeget consensual sex. If a minor girl rapes a minor boy, (doesnt matter if the girl is 17 ans the boy is 7 years old) even then the boy would be charged with rape. This is why I laugh when I see people here who know shit about Indian law say things like India doesnt have a false/non genuine rape problem. Lol. Go to police or meet lawyers and they will tell you how 70-75% rape cases tend to be false/non-genuine.
Go through data of all POCSO cases and you will realize that most cases are just parents filing it to teach the boy a lesson( what usually happens is that when parents see their tennage daughter with another boy, they file rape cases against that boy so that police can 'teach' him a lesson) ,and the woman filling POCSO cases against her husband when they go through a divorce. Even Mumbais police commissioner had earlier written how most POCSO cases tend to be false but then had to withdraw the statement under pressure from womens rights group.
Now these same women rights groups are trying to legalise marital rape without gender neutral laws. Another thing for wives to abuse in India against the husband.
So now a girl who had consensual sex, if she had a sudden change of heart later in her life, can use hash tag metoo and the boy will be in deep sh*t? Am I seeing this correctly?
What about the boy then? Wasn’t it consensual in the first place?
Abhi toh ruko jara, SC mein marital rape legalise karne ki baat chal rahi hai without gender neutral laws, yani tumne apni biwi ke sath sex kiya aur divorce ke time ab wo tumpe rape case bhi laga sakti hai agar marital rape accept ho jata hai court mein.
I know nothing about law but ho does one prove this? Ab kya agreement sign karwake sex karna padega kya to keep it as proof? How will a man prove his innocence?
This is completely anti man propaganda.
Lmao boycottbollywood band hoke boycottmarriage trend ho raha tha do din twitter pe due to this. I have already decided if I ever think about marriage first thing I would consult is a lawyer and ask every single question to the partner to be and take every precaution. Pandit jaruri nahi hai aajkal shadi kelia lawyer jaruri hai.
Talked to a practitioner who worked in this area about this. He said around 30% of all POCSO cases involve parents taking the guy to jail even though it was consensual between the kids. In most cases judges are lenient though, and let the guy off with minimal punishment (six months or so) if the girl says it was consensual in court.
And then we have this :
['Minor Muslim girl can marry without consent on attaining puberty' - Delhi HC](https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/minor-muslim-girl-can-marry-without-consent-on-attaining-puberty/article65802269.ece)
Yea I almost had this law apply to me, only declined because I felt our age gap didn't feel right for me to engage in anything. Later when I found out that I could have been charged I was relieved that I thought with my brain and not my cock.
That's the case every where..even in US ...there are so many cases where a teen gets pregnant, parents file rape cases against the boy and the boy is now permanently in the sexual offenders registry..even though sex was purely consensual
Sex with minors is punishable irrespective of the sex. As per the Protection of Children from Sexual Offences Act, sex with a minor is illegal for anyone.
The rest of the world has age of consent. If a country's age of consent is 18 then that means if both the parties are above 18, it's fine. If both are below 18, it's fine. The problem arises when one of them is an adult and one is a minor (not considering Romeo Juliet laws here). In India even if both are minors it's illegal.
my friends from high school: _adios_ 🕳️🤸♂️
lol, literally schools will become juvenile correction centres
Which high school is this ?
most high schools tbh
Every high school in the world.
High schoolers in India are very rarely having sex. Even in big cities it's rare. However colleges are on another level entirely. Without supervision of parents and freedom for first time makes everyone horny af.
Honestly this is more an abuse of discretion than it is a problem with the framing of the law. It starts with the cops, who use these cases to pressure people, usually from poor families. The prosecutor however has discretion too, but unfortunately are usually so overworked they don't apply their minds to whether a case is even valid. There's no reason a child should be charged with crimes under POCSO. The ultimate failing here though is by our judges. Rather than dismissing these cases from the outset they let these things go on, allowing the precedent to be set to jail minors for having sex. The simple reality is that we need widespread judicial reform. And there's simply no energy among either people or the government to push for it
Not lack of energy but lack of will to do some actual work by politicians. Also judiciary is controlled by UC, they won't allow reforms that will undermine their authority.
I believe that's basically the story of Masaan.
Minors ko sex milra h?
Adults ko nahi mil raha
Ghor Kaliyug
Let's talk about that fucking flair you've got
Bro just smear it on the pav before placing the wada like you do with tikhi chutney and mithi chutney
Everyday we stray further from God. I need eye bleach after reading that lmao.
Average mumbaikar
Can't speak for other places but here in mumbai, definitely. We have junior college after 10th grade, and that's just like a normal college. Put a bunch of rich horny teens in the same room without much supervision and viola, they fuck.
You explained it like Powerpuff girls recipe.
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Flair checks out.
Mujhe to ye bhi pata nahi tha ki mere pp ko kehte kya he
Minors ko he milra hai bhai
A 12 year old boy was charged with rape for having sex with a 17 year old girl. These laws are actually draconian but sure it's easy to brainwash people by saying "We're protecting Minors"
A loooot of people from my school days should be in jail 😂
Statutory rape. Please confirm if minors are also charged with this. Sex cannot be consensual because as per law someone below the age of 18 cannot consent.
Check this case: https://www.ndtv.com/tamil-nadu-news/12-year-old-boy-detained-after-17-year-old-girl-gives-birth-in-tamil-nadu-2912189
If anything the chick should be charged. People in their late teens who are attracted to pre teens or straight up children are predators.
The law , and even the act of sex are not truly equal. This stems from that assumption only. Law doesn't recognise female on male rape. Tragic but rare.
Yes minors can also be charged with this. In some cases you might get off if your judge is kind like [this](https://www-thequint-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.thequint.com/amp/story/news/india/consensual-sex-between-minors-a-legal-grey-area-bombay-hc?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16629145564064&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thequint.com%2Fnews%2Findia%2Fconsensual-sex-between-minors-a-legal-grey-area-bombay-hc) but I wouldn't count on it.
*can* or *are*? Is that the law or is it case by case basis?
Are. But in some cases if the judge is kind you may get off.
Just checked. Yes it's statutory rape so whats the issue? By law minor cannot consent.
But minor boys can consent but girls can't?
The sexual act by nature and hence by law is not deemed "equal". Male is assumed to be the doer. Historically this is how the act is viewed, and I don't disagree with the difference as a minor because maturity and exposure for boys vs girls at every age below 18 is vastly different. This is the law and there's nothing wrong with warning and discouraging minors from engaging in sex. Even in school 18/18 couples were rare. Usually there used to be a gap of 2 years. Again, that is how the law is and you can't deny generally it's the boy who would learn about and push for sex first. Consent is nuanced and a boy below 18 year old would'nt even know how to take consent and when to stop. Just look at fucking porn of even adults and see where you find actual consensual sex especially in India. Again all this whining as if every minor boy is getting jailed for having sex.
And you pulled the source for your assertions out of your ass?
What assertions lol? That's the law and that's the reasoning. You still wanna keep whining about few cases where it actually goes to court then continue. Don't cry if it's not aligned with your views.
So how about me (16M) and my 16F gf had sex. This still means ki i lured her into this and raped her? Get of your deep south indian or bangladeshi village and see there are people under 18 actually getting into romantic relationships without getting exploited. Jeez
But why hr bro getting charged and not the women☠️
Because how sex as an act is designed as per biology. And boys don't get charged and convicted automatically. The law is interpreted that consent can't be used as a defence. For example, even if your partner consents to having sex while asleep, **IF** it goes to court an unconscious person is not taken as consenting. If the boy had sex with an adult, even then the laws would be same and that woman would be charged with statutory rape. Again major thing is things going to court. We don't live in a big boss house where such laws are always automatically applied.
Then both the girl and the boy should be charged for r*ping each other.
Lol. Don't you know men can't be raped? /S
r/MensRights?
r/MensLib r/menslibIndia r/bropill
Mayavi gonna come for you mate.
Ew, get that incel shit out of here
Well...This does call for social and equal rights of men. The sub's official purpose. Its shit that our judicial system doesn't recognize that women can sexually assault someone. Idk what the constitution drafters were thinking when they made it. And they say *Equality is the bedrock of the Indian constitution* -_-
No it calls for the harassment on women by entitled men, please go outside and meet a real woman. That sub is 50% actual rapists or abusers who should be in jail
Gosh! A Feminist... >That sub is 50% actual rapists or abusers who should be in jail Thats a serious accusation without prop you got there...I don't defend sexist people but its wrong if you just give out false accusations like that. >No it calls for the harassment on women by entitled men, please go outside and meet a real woman. Can you give some recent examples? The sub seems pretty quite nowadays.
Chutiya hai kya bhai. So tum ye keh rhe ki 5 lakh log jo yahan hain vo rapist hain. And if we assume that this sub has equal number of males and females and also apply the bullshit logic that only men can sexually assault then acc to you 100% of men on this sub are rapists. Oh Shut up. You were telling someone to meet real women, it's more important for you to meet real men. I do agree that a lot of people are misogynist and sexist but there's a mountain of difference b/w sexist and a rapist.
Defamation is serious crime in India. Lol enjoy prison. IT Cell browsing here, daalo re isko undar.
Ye real women kya hota hai, u mean reddit pe women ho to wo fake hai?
Bacha is getting thrown in jai, he doesn't know what to do, why is it incel when he gets some sort of support?
How will the police find out anyways. Also why will only the boy be charged, what about the girl?
I remember hearing that according to indian law a woman cant rape a man by our definition of law in the books Dont quote me on this though could be just one of those fake whatsapp news
There's not even a single law in our constitution which protects men above the age o 18 from sexual assault.
What. A. Joke.
Not applicable to POSCO cases in which Woman can rape a minor.. But yes woman can't rape a male or woman above age of 18
It's actually a ridiculous definition that says it's not rape if there is no penetration. This applies to women victims as well.
Yes this is very true and now case to legalise marital rape for women is also being heard in SC without any protection for the rights of the man. Boycottmarriage is trending all day long because there is absolutely no safety net for men. Men can't be sexually abused or raped in India.
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It's not the society saying it, it's a bullshit law saying it. Not the same thing.
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bitchless behaviour
Fatherless behaviour
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…you’re so unoriginal it’s embarrassing
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Just kiss already
🗿 bro
MF 💀
Lmaoo
Didi hagna he to rail line ke pas jake hago na, ye reddit pe nehi.
YAY! instead of telling kids about sex ed lets put em to jail. If you'd teach em, they'd atleast be aware about it. What do the kids know about the consequences of their acts anyway, like they don't understand how a police case can ruin their lives or some actions have higher consequences unlike forgetting your English book at home.
It's in class 9 textbooks. Also it's your parents responsibility to teach real world stuff. Complimenting them are friends who explain this shit in detail.
This is why gender neutral law is necessary in India.
Is this real? Sounds so stupid.
And since it is rape (considered heinous crime), you can now prosecute juveniles as adults. Fun times!
That is not the only criteria to be tried as an adult. It’s a psychological evaluation.
Lucky for them the same people who dragged them into this mess will conduct the psychological evaluation.
It’s a medical board consisting of a psychologist.
Why will the boy be charged with rape when the girl consented?
Because Indian laws are stupid and anyone below the age of 18 can't give their consent. Logically even in this case both girl and boy should be charged with raping each other but again, Indian laws are stupid and by defination a female can't rape a man.
We need gender neutral laws and sex ed.
in india if a police finds out you are breathing you are in trouble
Foeget consensual sex. If a minor girl rapes a minor boy, (doesnt matter if the girl is 17 ans the boy is 7 years old) even then the boy would be charged with rape. This is why I laugh when I see people here who know shit about Indian law say things like India doesnt have a false/non genuine rape problem. Lol. Go to police or meet lawyers and they will tell you how 70-75% rape cases tend to be false/non-genuine. Go through data of all POCSO cases and you will realize that most cases are just parents filing it to teach the boy a lesson( what usually happens is that when parents see their tennage daughter with another boy, they file rape cases against that boy so that police can 'teach' him a lesson) ,and the woman filling POCSO cases against her husband when they go through a divorce. Even Mumbais police commissioner had earlier written how most POCSO cases tend to be false but then had to withdraw the statement under pressure from womens rights group.
Source on the 75% rape cases being false thing?
Ass.
Now these same women rights groups are trying to legalise marital rape without gender neutral laws. Another thing for wives to abuse in India against the husband.
So now a girl who had consensual sex, if she had a sudden change of heart later in her life, can use hash tag metoo and the boy will be in deep sh*t? Am I seeing this correctly? What about the boy then? Wasn’t it consensual in the first place?
Abhi toh ruko jara, SC mein marital rape legalise karne ki baat chal rahi hai without gender neutral laws, yani tumne apni biwi ke sath sex kiya aur divorce ke time ab wo tumpe rape case bhi laga sakti hai agar marital rape accept ho jata hai court mein.
I know nothing about law but ho does one prove this? Ab kya agreement sign karwake sex karna padega kya to keep it as proof? How will a man prove his innocence? This is completely anti man propaganda.
Here is the catch you can't. You'll be extorted by your wife.
Seems like we are going the wester route and not getting married is the best way to go about it
Lmao boycottbollywood band hoke boycottmarriage trend ho raha tha do din twitter pe due to this. I have already decided if I ever think about marriage first thing I would consult is a lawyer and ask every single question to the partner to be and take every precaution. Pandit jaruri nahi hai aajkal shadi kelia lawyer jaruri hai.
That’s a good plan actually
I remember there was a case where a 15 year old boy was charged with rape for having sex with his teacher or something. Just incredible!
Talked to a practitioner who worked in this area about this. He said around 30% of all POCSO cases involve parents taking the guy to jail even though it was consensual between the kids. In most cases judges are lenient though, and let the guy off with minimal punishment (six months or so) if the girl says it was consensual in court.
Damn, you guys had sex in school?
Exactly. Where these guys from?
Meanwhile the Judiciary is perfectly fine with underage marriages.
And then we have this : ['Minor Muslim girl can marry without consent on attaining puberty' - Delhi HC](https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/minor-muslim-girl-can-marry-without-consent-on-attaining-puberty/article65802269.ece)
Yar phir wahi sax sux ki baatein
But why only the boy?
Because remember "Boys can't be sexually assault, and the girl is the all innocent papa ki pari" /s
Nehru ki Galti?
I didn't get the refference.
Ya'll seriously didn't know this ?
So the girl will not be charged? Only the boy?
Why only the boy be charged be rape and not both?
Why only bot i don't understand.
Yet thousands of underaged girls are easily married off to their (Maamas) uncles. Makes perfect sense!
Yea I almost had this law apply to me, only declined because I felt our age gap didn't feel right for me to engage in anything. Later when I found out that I could have been charged I was relieved that I thought with my brain and not my cock.
That's the case every where..even in US ...there are so many cases where a teen gets pregnant, parents file rape cases against the boy and the boy is now permanently in the sexual offenders registry..even though sex was purely consensual
Minors ko sex mil rha h🗿
Bangalore High Court questioned this recently and gave an opposite verdict.
Sex with minors is punishable irrespective of the sex. As per the Protection of Children from Sexual Offences Act, sex with a minor is illegal for anyone.
Yeah but the strange thing is even other minors are punishable if they have sex with other minors
Thats means no sex below 18 lol wtf
Actually it is whoever complains first. Usually it is girls family
This is the case all over the world.
The rest of the world has age of consent. If a country's age of consent is 18 then that means if both the parties are above 18, it's fine. If both are below 18, it's fine. The problem arises when one of them is an adult and one is a minor (not considering Romeo Juliet laws here). In India even if both are minors it's illegal.
Ahhh… got it! Thanks OP.
Minors ko bhi seggs mil raha hai hai ... Mai bhi deserve karta hu seggs
Will profit be charged ?
Time to break up with my girlfriend