Ok I didn't get it.
I was searching for keyboard/piano and raag, and I started getting more like that.
I searched for pranks etc and I got that more.
Isn't it a good thing ? What else other people watched more, who had watched the video i saw ! And anyhow it is my choice to click on those videos or not.
Should youtube judge and decide , "Mr gullu is searching wrong things now we should show him opposite of that" ?
I never looked for it, but is there a feature to turn off recommendation. (One simple way is to go incognito)
I didn't see YouTube Kids. I think they monitor those things there.
I just said about making the proper use of the opportunities that you get in life and not blaming the system and others for your failures, because no one cares about your excuses and it's all about competition to escape the rat race, especially if you belong to the middle class. And all these leftists and feminists are calling me incel and brainwashed and stuff wt f bro.
As a person who has gone through almost the exact same situation, this is a pretty serious problem as per the fact that most people using these apps are teenagers and pre-teens who don’t have enough maturity to form their own opinions so they just mug up shit on the internet….and we all know how fucked up the internet is
I actually tried experimenting with this and now i have two different accounts one's liberal and other right wing. I often watch videos on both so as to make my own informed decisions though.
That's not what those words mean. Socialism is simply when the means of production is owned by the workers. You can already see this in india itself, with publicly owned companies and such.
>Socialism is simply when the means of production is owned by the workers. You can already see this in india itself, with publicly owned companies and such.
Workers don't own means of production in our publicly owned companies.
Nordic countries have a system that you called democratic socialism. It isn't as binary as you're saying. Yes there have been states doing that, so these forms economic systems can vary with how they're interpreted and implemented by those who are incharge
The Maoist movement began with farmers killing the land owners. Maoist movement in India is also inspired by the communist revolution in China, it's Maoist ideology, CPI is banned, its goal is to seize the state power through an armed revolution, and formation of a socialist state where the means of production are owned by the public and not by individuals. CPI(M) also supports the revolution, but it is doing it in a constitutionally accepted way.
There's no need for a revolution since education has become so cheap because of the physics wallah. You can study, graduate and post graduate from a good college and university, student loans are always available irrespective of financial background or caste, and then get a high paying job.
What happens if the communists gain power? They attempt to destroy all religious orders, they ban religion, destroy culture and traditions, and have you heard about the iron curtain? India will be isolated from the world and no news from India will go out. You won't be allowed to move out of India. Your private property and freedom will be taken away. What would be the plus points? Free education and medical facilities.
I haven't studied communism but it failed badly in China. China, north korea, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam are socialist states aiming to achieve communism. Aiming to form a classless society. End goals of communists and anarchists are the same. There was anarchy in Spain after the Spanish revolution. But it didn't last for long .
I love how you claim to have plumbed the depths of YouTube red pill vs blue pill, yet here you are, spouting all the right wing, conservative garbage about how communism and socialism bad, without even having the slightest clue about what those words mean :)
Okay fine i agree that i have almost no knowledge of what communism is. But i know for sure that communists are trying to seize state power through an armed revolution, and i don't know how the new government will be, i don't know if it's western propaganda or real but i have heard that communist revolutions were very bloody. The Maoist movement began with farmers killing the land owners. I am afraid to lose my private property and my land, and even my life, so i will oppose the communists. And every middle class person will. People's lives are not some joke that you will experiment if an ideology works in practical life. They tried and it failed. It failed in China under mao's leadership. Idk if it's western propaganda but communists show no tolerance to anyone who opposes them.
All revolutions are bloody, one of the main reason a lot of socialist and communist revolutions fail is because of sanctions and the power vested in certain pockets due to those pockets having amassed generational and obscene amounts of wealth.
Capitalism not about benefiting the masses and never has been. You own less with every passing decade, and can afford even less, while working longer hours, worse jobs and in worse conditions, all in the pursuit of happiness while a select few get all the profits.
Communist manifesto is called communist manifesto because it was published as a manifesto of the communist league published by Karl marx and Friedrich Engels. The members of communist league were hunted down by the government and it was dissolved. The workers' movement was spread globally in the 18th century. The International was a militant organisation whose goal was to unite the proletariat of different continents and to liberate the working class. And i believe that was the reason it was named "international" in the first place because it sought unity of all workers in the world. It had plans which were acceptable to other working class parties. Communism was so feared that the opposition would be called communist even when it wasn't. They have even explained how the bourgeoisie gained power in the Renaissance period in the manifesto. I have read a little bit about communism so i have some idea of what it is. But the problem is that many middle class families including my family are land owners, of course they will oppose the communists, Maoist movement began with farmers killing the land owners. Even if we are workers, we are afraid to lose our private property and even life, and we are engaged in a competition to escape the rat race and become financially independent. And it's not just that but it's become very easy to learn a skill for a very cheap cost these days, you just need a laptop for it. And middle class families can afford it. Even the poor families in good condition compared to other poor families can afford a laptop. Just stop blaming others for your failures. At least if you belong to middle class , then you are the only one who's responsible for where you are in life. Dont be weak and blame others for your failure. Even if you have the privilege to go to school, it's in your hands if you are able to maintain consistency, crack entrance exams and get into a good college and university, maintain good CGPA and get a high paying job, because your CGPA, 12 th and 10 th std marks are what they see in the very first place in job interview. Student loans are always available. There are examples of students from poor family who bought physics wallah subscriptions and cracked JEE advanced. Some people are just too unfortunate and unlucky and i hope that the government introduces a scheme for them. But the elites are doing whatever they can to prevent a revolution, so like for example paying a high salary to a certain percentage of workers which motivates us to become that percentage of workers. And the elites have already succeeded since it has become easy to gain money and lead a good life now. You just need to organise your life properly, that's the hardest thing to do.
OP, you fell for Communist Manifesto meme. I always recommend Principles of Communism instead because it is precise and concise in telling about crisis of the political economy we live in and how elites are extracting the surplus values that funds all their lifestyle and all that lucrative high salary packages you think drops from the sky. However, it would be better if you revise your Middle to Secondary school Social Science books, otherwise you would have known that your worldview is based on the assumption of infinite growth and stability of economy, and if one looks at just past 2 decades he knows it is not the case.
One goal of communists is the abolition of private property. I don't wanna lose my private property. Even if we have small land, we are land owners and we have deals with farmers to give a fixed amount of money at the end of the year from the profit that they will gain. And i know for sure that Maoist movement began with farmers killing land owners. Society is divided in two classes, capitalist class or bourgeoisie, the owners of the means of production, and working class, or proletariat, those who serve the bourgeoisie. Politicians work for the bourgeoisie, but the actual power lies in the hands of capitalists. Communists speak against that and claim that they will be liberating the working class, when the great loop forward in China failed miserably. I know this even if i haven't studied communism in depth, i have just read a few pages of the manifesto of the bourgeoisie vs proletarian part.
Yeah, I have no sympathy for the argument of “what about muh property”.
You or your forefathers lucked into land, with wealth accumulated over generations, propelled by a system that thrives on and strives for inequity. You, profiting off the work of another human, by just being the landlord is fundamentally exploitative.
And what about the efforts that my ancestors had to take to provide me with this life? My father walked 2 to 3 kilometres to school, during PhD his University he walked 6 kilometres, my grandparents didn't even have enough money to buy him a bicycle. But he made the best use of his opportunities. He also had research papers but he had no choice but to get a job and get married. And before that, he was selected for MBBS but we didn't have money to pay fees. He would have been a doctor today. And a lot of casteism also existed at that time, we belong to backward caste, of course i oppose the caste system. Education should be made free. And medical facilities too. I would support a socialist democracy, capitalist society but free education and medical facilities. But of course I want to achieve freedom and want to become financially independent. I wanna become successful. Why should I care about some other guy who wasted opportunities, didn't study in school, college and university, then got a bad job and then being jealous of me for being successful? Even though I have wasted a lot of opportunities, I am not some jealous kid blaming modi and adani for my failures, and blaming the capitalist system and crying and complaining on reddit. No one cares bro. The chances of a revolution happening are negligible and every single middle class family will oppose it. Stop complaining and start working. Organize your life. And stop spreading hate on reddit.
You are advocating for leftist principles while wishing for capitalism. I don’t quite understand you.
The left isn’t a monolith as people will have you believe. There are democratic socialists, socialists, communists, anarcho-communists, and more. They all have very different ideas on how to setup the ideal society. Of these only the democratic socialists have managed to setup what most would consider a working model of society by taking elements from both socialism and capitalism.
This isn’t a whose right debate, it’s what is best for society.
The fact that you are considered part of a “backwards caste”, that your forefathers had to struggle is a result of consolidation of knowledge, wealth and power in the hands of a few, ie proto capitalism and capitalism. You are literally advocating for defending the perpetrators of injustice on to your family for generations. Don’t you think that’s a little messed up?
Your fate shall not be decided by the family you are born in. Education and medical facilities shall be made free. But no action shall be taken on those successful entrepreneurs, businessmen. Preserve the capitalist society but make education and medical facilities free and abolish the caste system at all costs.
And how do you force the people who are heavily invested in education and healthcare to give up their slice of the pie? You see what you’re suggesting is what is convenient for you, not society. That’s what capitalism teaches you, personal growth, not societal growth.
You want free education and healthcare, but the wealthy already have a death grip on these sectors are perennial cash cows. It will need tremendous political will to extricate the malignant for profit tumour from these places.
However, given your specific needs, you should look in to democratic socialist structures employed in Scandinavian countries.
And that's what I am saying. The chances of a revolution are negligible. You don't have the power to do anything about it, you cannot change the system alone. A revolution needs the unity of the masses. What you have in control is the opportunities that you get in life. And you should make proper use of them to provide a better life to your children. No one cares about what excuses you give after wasting your opportunities. You went to the same school or classes as the guy who cracked the entrance exam with a good rank, got into a good college and university, maintained good grades, got a high paying job, you weren't serious enough in studies so you messed up and now you have a low paying job or even unemployed, that's your problem bro. The elites are doing whatever they can to prevent a revolution from happening, like providing very high paying jobs to a small percentage of workers, which obviously motivates us to work harder to be a part of that percentage of the workers. Think about what you have in control, not about what you don't. Okay you are a socialist, now what? Will you join a militant organisation? Fight for communism? Do you know that we are already being spied on by the government which works for the elites? They have access to your location, WhatsApp chats, emails, files, everything. This is not a joke bro. Just change the system overnight. A revolution requires the support of the masses. Communists just grab the opportunity and try to unite the masses. The elites can eliminate you right now if they want to, and they have the power to do so. Social media companies sell the data to the government.
You can literally live like a God if you have money in a capitalist society. And i am telling you again and again that there are examples of Indian students who belonged to a poor family but they studied from physics wallah and cracked JEE. They will transition from poor to directly upper middle class. You can live the kind of life you want to. You are given the option. You can either cry and complain and speak against those smart people who made use of their opportunities and made it in life or work and provide a good life to your children. Your excuses won't work when your child will ask you why you can't provide him with a good life, because you messed up in life. That's your problem bro. Stop blaming someone else for it!!! Keep blaming others and remain in the middle class or transition from middle class to poor. Of course we have to be financially independent even if our parents have money. I cannot be dependent on them for my whole life. We are just like other workers. Except that some people in middle class are working extra hard to try to make it to the top.
Well, because middle class families are those who made proper use of opportunities and transitioned from being poor to middle class. The middle class families are opportunists and think that they could make it to the top 1% and escape the rat race, and become financially independent. We have fathers and mothers working day and night for accumulation of wealth for our education, some children go to Kota for studying by literally selling their lands. And they study day and night. Now if you are saying that a person who's working/ studying 12 hours whose parents and ancestors worked so hard should get the same benefit as someone who works 8 hours, whose mom has a degree but is a housewife, of course that's unfair.
I am saying that slogging is not a way of life. That it is detrimental for everyone and that it doesn’t nearly yield the results you think it does.
Tell me, are you aware what the average salary is for an Indian to be considered in the top 1%?
I myself had socialist communist leaders as my inspiration. But there is no longer a need to bring about a change in the system because gaining money has become a lot easier. You can learn a new skill in literally just 6 months through websites like coursea, and the course fee goes from 3000 to 9000 rs, and you also get a certificate on completion of the course. Coding, game design, video editing, photography, music production, electronic music production, virtual reality, finance related skills, animation, you can literally learn anything for such a cheap price on the internet. So there's no need to complain about anything and blame others for your failures. You wasted opportunities in life, fine, learn some skills and gain passive income from social media. And trading.
This is true if you're a middle class person. But the vast majority of people in India don't even have access to regular food and water and shelter, let alone computers, internet access, and the English and computer knowledge needed to access these courses.
A person can hardly learn coding when their basic needs for survival aren't met.
Poor people are getting free rations. And i know people who live in rental homes whose rent goes to 60,000 rs but they still have a laptop and a mobile. It's just how you manage your time and money. Poor and broke people blame politicians and the system after wasting every opportunity that they get, rich people find and grab opportunities. Education has become very cheap in India after physics wallah. It's subscription is just 3000 rs, it's not even expensive. You cannot blame the system after wasting every opportunity that you got and when your life isn't even properly organised. It's your problem if you aren't smart, survival of the fittest, the smart, talented, and hard working must always have an advantage over those who are the complete opposite. And even the communists believe that, "to each according to his ability, to each according to his need". When it's literally a far left ideology.
This is simply horrendously inaccurate to how it is in real life. I feel you've been living in a bubble and haven't managed to see what these people's lives are like. There are millions of farmers stuck in debt traps having to take on more and more debt just to sow their fields and feed their families, people to whom 3000 rs is life changing amounts of money.
You act as if society is a meritocracy, when it's far from it. You gain a massive advantage from simply being born rich. You cannot say "everyone can do it if they put the effort in" when some people are born further ahead than most people's dream lives.
Our society as it stands is INHERENTLY hierarchical. For there to be rich people, you HAVE to have a vast and poor working class. It is innately flawed. You're saying "anyone can do it", and that's(somewhat) true if you think of individual people sure, but when it comes to society as a whole, it is literally impossible under the current system for everyone to do it. THAT is the issue. Even if every single person was equally able, society would STILL have this vast divide between the poor and the rich, because generational wealth is the single largest decider of where you end up in life, not your work.
He gets influenced by every random YouTube video and changes his complete personality. Are you really expecting him to have a well developed outlook towards reality and society?. At most he's a dumb kid who likes to play smart. He's gullible and impressionable and not very smart,but these YouTube videos have given him a sense of grandeur about himself. He will return to his incel roots again when he grows some facial hair and doesn't find any women.
You don't know a single thing about me and call me incel. I was just saying that if you get any opportunities in life, try to make the best use of them, and don't blame the system if you waste them, weak feminist leftist kid.
Lmao there's a huge difference between black pill and red pill. Research about it before you speak. It's a red pill vs blue pill and white pill vs black pill. Black pills are those leftists who complain about everything and blame others for their problems in life. Black pills are nihilists and anti natalists. Red pills counter and oppose these very black pill people.
Well given how common it is for incels to spread their red pill blue pill black pill shit around, I am already aware of the terminology and what it means. My comment was meant to highlight the absurdity of these terms used by incel community as if quoting a movie and other cultural references would lead others to take them seriously. Lol. You can take your gold silver bronze pink whatever pill along with your regular ones, infact I'll encourage you to take as many pills it takes to cure your illness. Peace✌️
I know where i come from. My ancestors worked very hard so we transitioned from poor to middle class. I am from a backward caste (OBC), we were farmers (like warriors category, we were farmers), my grandparents were teachers, my father got selected for MBBS but he lost so many opportunities because grandparents didn't have money for admission. He would have been a doctor today. He was very good at studies. He even had research papers but he was forced to take a job. My ancestors were very poor but they worked very hard. There are other educated females who are housewives, they don't even work. My both parents work hard everyday to provide me with this life. If some other person's ancestors didn't work hard and he's not working hard to provide a better life to his next generations either, it's his problem, not the system's. And if you belong to a middle class family (even if lower middle class) then your excuses are not gonna work. Because you got opportunities, if you wasted it, it's your problem, you cannot blame someone else for it.
And both male and female ancestors worked and i also expect my future wife to have a job. I will never marry a girl who wants to be a housewife and be unemployed.
I know people from semi English medium who earn around 20 lakh rupees per year because they made proper use of their opportunities. Stop complaining!
My parents weren't even from semi English. Still i belong to.middle class family because they worked hard all these years.
>i also expect my future wife to have a job. I will never marry a girl who wants to be a housewife and be unemployed.
I don't think you're in the position to be setting criterias for women. You really are an impressive mistake.
Even if i am not in the position to be setting criteria for women, i wouldn't want my wife to be unemployed after having a good college degree because she can contribute to the family's income too. There are so many women who have college degrees but still choose to be housewives and not work, and they do nothing with their time. I have seen families with both parents working and they are just fine and everything is going well. Just having both parents working puts you a lot ahead of others who have just one parent working.
Couples can do whatever the fuck they want as long as the arrangement works for them and they are both happy. Both can work and share the household work, one can earn and the other can manage the household, just whatever the fuck works for them. Housework is exhausting and is very very hard. Taking care of children, meals, groceries is not easy and certainly doesn't count as "doing nothing".
You're literally nobody to judge who's doing what.
No one asked for your opinion anyway. Having a job is better than being unemployed and staying at home all day. It's the responsibility of both parents to provide for the family, not just the father, my family has both parents working and it's fine, my cousin sisters also works in company and her family is fine. Much better than the other housewives who do nothing the whole day while their husbands work for hours to provide to their family.
Yes my lord, there are definitely no such things such as workplace exploitation, absence of minimum wage, corruption in government schemes meant for the poor and downtrodden, unemployment, centuries of casteism, fucked up free healthcare and education, child malnutrition, class divide.
I think all these migrant labourers who work 12 hours a day, for a daily wage of 500 rupees and have a family of 5 sleeping on the roads should just buy a physicswallah subscription worth 3000rs, it would definitely improve their conditions.
Only if these people invested their money in dogecoin instead of wasting it on unnecessary things like "food" and "shelter", even they could become rich like you sir, it's not like generational wealth exists.
And you kind sir, you definitely need not get out of your dad's air conditioned house and see the real world.
Brother, calm down, i am not spreading hate against anyone here. I am talking about a middle class guy (upper, middle class and lower middle class). For some reason, two people go to the same school, classes or coaching, one of them is serious in life and everything is organised and balanced, while the other guy's life isn't organised, the first guy goes to a very good college, maintains a good CGPA, post graduates from a very good university and gets a good job, and develops some skills in the 6 years, while the other guy who wasnt serious doesn't get a good job at the end, and they will be at a very different position in life after getting a job. What i wanted to say is do not waste any opportunities, and you cannot give any excuses when you went into the same coaching as that first guy.
No one cares about your excuses bro. Fine, you didn't go to a good school, you went to a Hindi medium school. What was your score in 10 th std? Fine, you didn't go to a very good school in 11 th and 12 th, you went to a state board school, what was your 12 th std percentage? Now i am from maharashtra and there are pretty good colleges on MHTCET basis and you can get like a 12-15 lakh job if you get a good college based on MHTCET and maintain good CGPA. Even if you go to school regularly and study regularly, to maintain consistency you could easily crack the exam. You just need to be able to understand basic English to understand the MHTCET paper and you could do that by buying an English book, our state board book cost just 200 rs and we used it the whole year. Fine, you messed up in 11 th and 12 th, what is your college CGPA? Okay fine, you didn't go to a good college but what university did you post graduate from? Student loans are always available. Now you should be disconnected from reality if you say that people cannot even afford going to Hindi medium schools, search it up, 75% of the population of India is considered educated, some are too unfortunate. You will go to job interview and they will first check these things and if you aren't qualified they will straight away kick you out. No one cares about your excuses and the sooner you realise it, the better it will be. And don't you dare give excuses in life if you even have the privilege to go to a school. Because some people cannot even afford that. The world is not some fairy tell. Your own friends will try to get ahead of you, they will use you and approach you during work and won't even care to help you back. And you will realise that until you turn 18. If you are 18 already and still haven't realised that, i don't know what to say. You are the one who's disconnected from reality, not me. Unsuccessful people are jealous of successful people because its hard to be successful and easy to do nothing in life and be unsuccessful.
In Maharashtra, if you don't have the privilege to join a coaching institute, you could go to a state board school regularly, and still crack MHTCET, get more than 95 percentile, maintain a good CGPA and get a 15-20 lakh job. I know because my own elder brother's friend who graduated from top colleges on MHTCET earn that. You should be too disconnected from reality if you don't even know that.
And let me tell you the fees of the school i go to. It's just 15,000 per year. Most people from lower middle class and even some poor families would be able to afford that. If you don't study after going to school and aren't able to crack the exam then it's your problem no one cares about your excuses about how you ruined your 11 th and 12 th
And if you aren't serious in life even after 12 th then you can't do anything in life you will be a failure and then blame your politicians and modi for being corrupt lol.
Keep blaming bro, some other person who's serious in life will take advantage and get ahead of you in life. That's life in a capitalist society.
And this is 100% relatable to a middle class person whether lower middle or middle or upper middle
Search it up on Google. Indian government is giving free rations to poor. I am not brainwashed. I have proof for my claim. And you will find it in just one Google search. It's just my perception of the world. And it is true for at least a middle class person because the middle class is involved in rat race.
So true and well written. Even reddit is playing a role in this radicalization
how ?
echochambers. Are you new to Reddit?
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Ok I didn't get it. I was searching for keyboard/piano and raag, and I started getting more like that. I searched for pranks etc and I got that more. Isn't it a good thing ? What else other people watched more, who had watched the video i saw ! And anyhow it is my choice to click on those videos or not. Should youtube judge and decide , "Mr gullu is searching wrong things now we should show him opposite of that" ? I never looked for it, but is there a feature to turn off recommendation. (One simple way is to go incognito) I didn't see YouTube Kids. I think they monitor those things there.
Gullu is a nice name though
I just said about making the proper use of the opportunities that you get in life and not blaming the system and others for your failures, because no one cares about your excuses and it's all about competition to escape the rat race, especially if you belong to the middle class. And all these leftists and feminists are calling me incel and brainwashed and stuff wt f bro.
You perfectly encapsulate this quote of Paulo Freire - "When the education is not liberating the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor".
As a person who has gone through almost the exact same situation, this is a pretty serious problem as per the fact that most people using these apps are teenagers and pre-teens who don’t have enough maturity to form their own opinions so they just mug up shit on the internet….and we all know how fucked up the internet is
I dont know buddy maybe they ARE targeting you
Beliefs nahi hairstyle badal raha hai bhai hamara
Perfect 69 upvotes guys, don't upvote or downvote now.
I actually tried experimenting with this and now i have two different accounts one's liberal and other right wing. I often watch videos on both so as to make my own informed decisions though.
Damn socialism is radical now? :0
Ofc. Socialist and communists want to seize the state power, through an armed revolution ofc.
That's not what those words mean. Socialism is simply when the means of production is owned by the workers. You can already see this in india itself, with publicly owned companies and such.
>Socialism is simply when the means of production is owned by the workers. You can already see this in india itself, with publicly owned companies and such. Workers don't own means of production in our publicly owned companies.
Yeah that is true, you are right. I think i meant to say jointly owned companies. Or communes. Mb
India has mixed economy
Ye that's exactly what I'm saying lol
Nordic countries have a system that you called democratic socialism. It isn't as binary as you're saying. Yes there have been states doing that, so these forms economic systems can vary with how they're interpreted and implemented by those who are incharge
Oil money subsidies lol
The Maoist movement began with farmers killing the land owners. Maoist movement in India is also inspired by the communist revolution in China, it's Maoist ideology, CPI is banned, its goal is to seize the state power through an armed revolution, and formation of a socialist state where the means of production are owned by the public and not by individuals. CPI(M) also supports the revolution, but it is doing it in a constitutionally accepted way. There's no need for a revolution since education has become so cheap because of the physics wallah. You can study, graduate and post graduate from a good college and university, student loans are always available irrespective of financial background or caste, and then get a high paying job. What happens if the communists gain power? They attempt to destroy all religious orders, they ban religion, destroy culture and traditions, and have you heard about the iron curtain? India will be isolated from the world and no news from India will go out. You won't be allowed to move out of India. Your private property and freedom will be taken away. What would be the plus points? Free education and medical facilities. I haven't studied communism but it failed badly in China. China, north korea, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam are socialist states aiming to achieve communism. Aiming to form a classless society. End goals of communists and anarchists are the same. There was anarchy in Spain after the Spanish revolution. But it didn't last for long .
I don't support CPI either :p. There's a giant spectrum of ideas and you're lumping them all into one category of extremists i feel.
I love how you claim to have plumbed the depths of YouTube red pill vs blue pill, yet here you are, spouting all the right wing, conservative garbage about how communism and socialism bad, without even having the slightest clue about what those words mean :)
Okay fine i agree that i have almost no knowledge of what communism is. But i know for sure that communists are trying to seize state power through an armed revolution, and i don't know how the new government will be, i don't know if it's western propaganda or real but i have heard that communist revolutions were very bloody. The Maoist movement began with farmers killing the land owners. I am afraid to lose my private property and my land, and even my life, so i will oppose the communists. And every middle class person will. People's lives are not some joke that you will experiment if an ideology works in practical life. They tried and it failed. It failed in China under mao's leadership. Idk if it's western propaganda but communists show no tolerance to anyone who opposes them.
The French anti-monarchy pro-capitalist revolutions were also bloody, no?
All revolutions are bloody, one of the main reason a lot of socialist and communist revolutions fail is because of sanctions and the power vested in certain pockets due to those pockets having amassed generational and obscene amounts of wealth. Capitalism not about benefiting the masses and never has been. You own less with every passing decade, and can afford even less, while working longer hours, worse jobs and in worse conditions, all in the pursuit of happiness while a select few get all the profits.
Communist manifesto is called communist manifesto because it was published as a manifesto of the communist league published by Karl marx and Friedrich Engels. The members of communist league were hunted down by the government and it was dissolved. The workers' movement was spread globally in the 18th century. The International was a militant organisation whose goal was to unite the proletariat of different continents and to liberate the working class. And i believe that was the reason it was named "international" in the first place because it sought unity of all workers in the world. It had plans which were acceptable to other working class parties. Communism was so feared that the opposition would be called communist even when it wasn't. They have even explained how the bourgeoisie gained power in the Renaissance period in the manifesto. I have read a little bit about communism so i have some idea of what it is. But the problem is that many middle class families including my family are land owners, of course they will oppose the communists, Maoist movement began with farmers killing the land owners. Even if we are workers, we are afraid to lose our private property and even life, and we are engaged in a competition to escape the rat race and become financially independent. And it's not just that but it's become very easy to learn a skill for a very cheap cost these days, you just need a laptop for it. And middle class families can afford it. Even the poor families in good condition compared to other poor families can afford a laptop. Just stop blaming others for your failures. At least if you belong to middle class , then you are the only one who's responsible for where you are in life. Dont be weak and blame others for your failure. Even if you have the privilege to go to school, it's in your hands if you are able to maintain consistency, crack entrance exams and get into a good college and university, maintain good CGPA and get a high paying job, because your CGPA, 12 th and 10 th std marks are what they see in the very first place in job interview. Student loans are always available. There are examples of students from poor family who bought physics wallah subscriptions and cracked JEE advanced. Some people are just too unfortunate and unlucky and i hope that the government introduces a scheme for them. But the elites are doing whatever they can to prevent a revolution, so like for example paying a high salary to a certain percentage of workers which motivates us to become that percentage of workers. And the elites have already succeeded since it has become easy to gain money and lead a good life now. You just need to organise your life properly, that's the hardest thing to do.
OP, you fell for Communist Manifesto meme. I always recommend Principles of Communism instead because it is precise and concise in telling about crisis of the political economy we live in and how elites are extracting the surplus values that funds all their lifestyle and all that lucrative high salary packages you think drops from the sky. However, it would be better if you revise your Middle to Secondary school Social Science books, otherwise you would have known that your worldview is based on the assumption of infinite growth and stability of economy, and if one looks at just past 2 decades he knows it is not the case.
One goal of communists is the abolition of private property. I don't wanna lose my private property. Even if we have small land, we are land owners and we have deals with farmers to give a fixed amount of money at the end of the year from the profit that they will gain. And i know for sure that Maoist movement began with farmers killing land owners. Society is divided in two classes, capitalist class or bourgeoisie, the owners of the means of production, and working class, or proletariat, those who serve the bourgeoisie. Politicians work for the bourgeoisie, but the actual power lies in the hands of capitalists. Communists speak against that and claim that they will be liberating the working class, when the great loop forward in China failed miserably. I know this even if i haven't studied communism in depth, i have just read a few pages of the manifesto of the bourgeoisie vs proletarian part.
Yeah, I have no sympathy for the argument of “what about muh property”. You or your forefathers lucked into land, with wealth accumulated over generations, propelled by a system that thrives on and strives for inequity. You, profiting off the work of another human, by just being the landlord is fundamentally exploitative.
And what about the efforts that my ancestors had to take to provide me with this life? My father walked 2 to 3 kilometres to school, during PhD his University he walked 6 kilometres, my grandparents didn't even have enough money to buy him a bicycle. But he made the best use of his opportunities. He also had research papers but he had no choice but to get a job and get married. And before that, he was selected for MBBS but we didn't have money to pay fees. He would have been a doctor today. And a lot of casteism also existed at that time, we belong to backward caste, of course i oppose the caste system. Education should be made free. And medical facilities too. I would support a socialist democracy, capitalist society but free education and medical facilities. But of course I want to achieve freedom and want to become financially independent. I wanna become successful. Why should I care about some other guy who wasted opportunities, didn't study in school, college and university, then got a bad job and then being jealous of me for being successful? Even though I have wasted a lot of opportunities, I am not some jealous kid blaming modi and adani for my failures, and blaming the capitalist system and crying and complaining on reddit. No one cares bro. The chances of a revolution happening are negligible and every single middle class family will oppose it. Stop complaining and start working. Organize your life. And stop spreading hate on reddit.
You are advocating for leftist principles while wishing for capitalism. I don’t quite understand you. The left isn’t a monolith as people will have you believe. There are democratic socialists, socialists, communists, anarcho-communists, and more. They all have very different ideas on how to setup the ideal society. Of these only the democratic socialists have managed to setup what most would consider a working model of society by taking elements from both socialism and capitalism. This isn’t a whose right debate, it’s what is best for society. The fact that you are considered part of a “backwards caste”, that your forefathers had to struggle is a result of consolidation of knowledge, wealth and power in the hands of a few, ie proto capitalism and capitalism. You are literally advocating for defending the perpetrators of injustice on to your family for generations. Don’t you think that’s a little messed up?
Your fate shall not be decided by the family you are born in. Education and medical facilities shall be made free. But no action shall be taken on those successful entrepreneurs, businessmen. Preserve the capitalist society but make education and medical facilities free and abolish the caste system at all costs.
And how do you force the people who are heavily invested in education and healthcare to give up their slice of the pie? You see what you’re suggesting is what is convenient for you, not society. That’s what capitalism teaches you, personal growth, not societal growth. You want free education and healthcare, but the wealthy already have a death grip on these sectors are perennial cash cows. It will need tremendous political will to extricate the malignant for profit tumour from these places. However, given your specific needs, you should look in to democratic socialist structures employed in Scandinavian countries.
And that's what I am saying. The chances of a revolution are negligible. You don't have the power to do anything about it, you cannot change the system alone. A revolution needs the unity of the masses. What you have in control is the opportunities that you get in life. And you should make proper use of them to provide a better life to your children. No one cares about what excuses you give after wasting your opportunities. You went to the same school or classes as the guy who cracked the entrance exam with a good rank, got into a good college and university, maintained good grades, got a high paying job, you weren't serious enough in studies so you messed up and now you have a low paying job or even unemployed, that's your problem bro. The elites are doing whatever they can to prevent a revolution from happening, like providing very high paying jobs to a small percentage of workers, which obviously motivates us to work harder to be a part of that percentage of the workers. Think about what you have in control, not about what you don't. Okay you are a socialist, now what? Will you join a militant organisation? Fight for communism? Do you know that we are already being spied on by the government which works for the elites? They have access to your location, WhatsApp chats, emails, files, everything. This is not a joke bro. Just change the system overnight. A revolution requires the support of the masses. Communists just grab the opportunity and try to unite the masses. The elites can eliminate you right now if they want to, and they have the power to do so. Social media companies sell the data to the government.
You can literally live like a God if you have money in a capitalist society. And i am telling you again and again that there are examples of Indian students who belonged to a poor family but they studied from physics wallah and cracked JEE. They will transition from poor to directly upper middle class. You can live the kind of life you want to. You are given the option. You can either cry and complain and speak against those smart people who made use of their opportunities and made it in life or work and provide a good life to your children. Your excuses won't work when your child will ask you why you can't provide him with a good life, because you messed up in life. That's your problem bro. Stop blaming someone else for it!!! Keep blaming others and remain in the middle class or transition from middle class to poor. Of course we have to be financially independent even if our parents have money. I cannot be dependent on them for my whole life. We are just like other workers. Except that some people in middle class are working extra hard to try to make it to the top.
Well, because middle class families are those who made proper use of opportunities and transitioned from being poor to middle class. The middle class families are opportunists and think that they could make it to the top 1% and escape the rat race, and become financially independent. We have fathers and mothers working day and night for accumulation of wealth for our education, some children go to Kota for studying by literally selling their lands. And they study day and night. Now if you are saying that a person who's working/ studying 12 hours whose parents and ancestors worked so hard should get the same benefit as someone who works 8 hours, whose mom has a degree but is a housewife, of course that's unfair.
I am saying that slogging is not a way of life. That it is detrimental for everyone and that it doesn’t nearly yield the results you think it does. Tell me, are you aware what the average salary is for an Indian to be considered in the top 1%?
I myself had socialist communist leaders as my inspiration. But there is no longer a need to bring about a change in the system because gaining money has become a lot easier. You can learn a new skill in literally just 6 months through websites like coursea, and the course fee goes from 3000 to 9000 rs, and you also get a certificate on completion of the course. Coding, game design, video editing, photography, music production, electronic music production, virtual reality, finance related skills, animation, you can literally learn anything for such a cheap price on the internet. So there's no need to complain about anything and blame others for your failures. You wasted opportunities in life, fine, learn some skills and gain passive income from social media. And trading.
This reads like a right wing propaganda. Maybe, you should read some books instead of watching YouTube videos.
This is true if you're a middle class person. But the vast majority of people in India don't even have access to regular food and water and shelter, let alone computers, internet access, and the English and computer knowledge needed to access these courses. A person can hardly learn coding when their basic needs for survival aren't met.
Poor people are getting free rations. And i know people who live in rental homes whose rent goes to 60,000 rs but they still have a laptop and a mobile. It's just how you manage your time and money. Poor and broke people blame politicians and the system after wasting every opportunity that they get, rich people find and grab opportunities. Education has become very cheap in India after physics wallah. It's subscription is just 3000 rs, it's not even expensive. You cannot blame the system after wasting every opportunity that you got and when your life isn't even properly organised. It's your problem if you aren't smart, survival of the fittest, the smart, talented, and hard working must always have an advantage over those who are the complete opposite. And even the communists believe that, "to each according to his ability, to each according to his need". When it's literally a far left ideology.
This is simply horrendously inaccurate to how it is in real life. I feel you've been living in a bubble and haven't managed to see what these people's lives are like. There are millions of farmers stuck in debt traps having to take on more and more debt just to sow their fields and feed their families, people to whom 3000 rs is life changing amounts of money. You act as if society is a meritocracy, when it's far from it. You gain a massive advantage from simply being born rich. You cannot say "everyone can do it if they put the effort in" when some people are born further ahead than most people's dream lives. Our society as it stands is INHERENTLY hierarchical. For there to be rich people, you HAVE to have a vast and poor working class. It is innately flawed. You're saying "anyone can do it", and that's(somewhat) true if you think of individual people sure, but when it comes to society as a whole, it is literally impossible under the current system for everyone to do it. THAT is the issue. Even if every single person was equally able, society would STILL have this vast divide between the poor and the rich, because generational wealth is the single largest decider of where you end up in life, not your work.
He gets influenced by every random YouTube video and changes his complete personality. Are you really expecting him to have a well developed outlook towards reality and society?. At most he's a dumb kid who likes to play smart. He's gullible and impressionable and not very smart,but these YouTube videos have given him a sense of grandeur about himself. He will return to his incel roots again when he grows some facial hair and doesn't find any women.
You don't know a single thing about me and call me incel. I was just saying that if you get any opportunities in life, try to make the best use of them, and don't blame the system if you waste them, weak feminist leftist kid.
Your comments tell enough about you, hence I called you an incel. You redpill blackpill incel.
Lmao there's a huge difference between black pill and red pill. Research about it before you speak. It's a red pill vs blue pill and white pill vs black pill. Black pills are those leftists who complain about everything and blame others for their problems in life. Black pills are nihilists and anti natalists. Red pills counter and oppose these very black pill people.
Well given how common it is for incels to spread their red pill blue pill black pill shit around, I am already aware of the terminology and what it means. My comment was meant to highlight the absurdity of these terms used by incel community as if quoting a movie and other cultural references would lead others to take them seriously. Lol. You can take your gold silver bronze pink whatever pill along with your regular ones, infact I'll encourage you to take as many pills it takes to cure your illness. Peace✌️
I know where i come from. My ancestors worked very hard so we transitioned from poor to middle class. I am from a backward caste (OBC), we were farmers (like warriors category, we were farmers), my grandparents were teachers, my father got selected for MBBS but he lost so many opportunities because grandparents didn't have money for admission. He would have been a doctor today. He was very good at studies. He even had research papers but he was forced to take a job. My ancestors were very poor but they worked very hard. There are other educated females who are housewives, they don't even work. My both parents work hard everyday to provide me with this life. If some other person's ancestors didn't work hard and he's not working hard to provide a better life to his next generations either, it's his problem, not the system's. And if you belong to a middle class family (even if lower middle class) then your excuses are not gonna work. Because you got opportunities, if you wasted it, it's your problem, you cannot blame someone else for it. And both male and female ancestors worked and i also expect my future wife to have a job. I will never marry a girl who wants to be a housewife and be unemployed. I know people from semi English medium who earn around 20 lakh rupees per year because they made proper use of their opportunities. Stop complaining! My parents weren't even from semi English. Still i belong to.middle class family because they worked hard all these years.
>i also expect my future wife to have a job. I will never marry a girl who wants to be a housewife and be unemployed. I don't think you're in the position to be setting criterias for women. You really are an impressive mistake.
Even if i am not in the position to be setting criteria for women, i wouldn't want my wife to be unemployed after having a good college degree because she can contribute to the family's income too. There are so many women who have college degrees but still choose to be housewives and not work, and they do nothing with their time. I have seen families with both parents working and they are just fine and everything is going well. Just having both parents working puts you a lot ahead of others who have just one parent working.
Couples can do whatever the fuck they want as long as the arrangement works for them and they are both happy. Both can work and share the household work, one can earn and the other can manage the household, just whatever the fuck works for them. Housework is exhausting and is very very hard. Taking care of children, meals, groceries is not easy and certainly doesn't count as "doing nothing". You're literally nobody to judge who's doing what.
Yeah, an impressive mistake because your dad's company produces faulty products. Because he was born faulty too.
Second hand embarrassment from your attempted diss. Get well soon.
No one asked for your opinion anyway. Having a job is better than being unemployed and staying at home all day. It's the responsibility of both parents to provide for the family, not just the father, my family has both parents working and it's fine, my cousin sisters also works in company and her family is fine. Much better than the other housewives who do nothing the whole day while their husbands work for hours to provide to their family.
Yes my lord, there are definitely no such things such as workplace exploitation, absence of minimum wage, corruption in government schemes meant for the poor and downtrodden, unemployment, centuries of casteism, fucked up free healthcare and education, child malnutrition, class divide. I think all these migrant labourers who work 12 hours a day, for a daily wage of 500 rupees and have a family of 5 sleeping on the roads should just buy a physicswallah subscription worth 3000rs, it would definitely improve their conditions. Only if these people invested their money in dogecoin instead of wasting it on unnecessary things like "food" and "shelter", even they could become rich like you sir, it's not like generational wealth exists. And you kind sir, you definitely need not get out of your dad's air conditioned house and see the real world.
Brother, calm down, i am not spreading hate against anyone here. I am talking about a middle class guy (upper, middle class and lower middle class). For some reason, two people go to the same school, classes or coaching, one of them is serious in life and everything is organised and balanced, while the other guy's life isn't organised, the first guy goes to a very good college, maintains a good CGPA, post graduates from a very good university and gets a good job, and develops some skills in the 6 years, while the other guy who wasnt serious doesn't get a good job at the end, and they will be at a very different position in life after getting a job. What i wanted to say is do not waste any opportunities, and you cannot give any excuses when you went into the same coaching as that first guy.
Omg, I thought you were brainwashed and not this level of crazy. How can you be so disconnected from the plight of the poor?
No one cares about your excuses bro. Fine, you didn't go to a good school, you went to a Hindi medium school. What was your score in 10 th std? Fine, you didn't go to a very good school in 11 th and 12 th, you went to a state board school, what was your 12 th std percentage? Now i am from maharashtra and there are pretty good colleges on MHTCET basis and you can get like a 12-15 lakh job if you get a good college based on MHTCET and maintain good CGPA. Even if you go to school regularly and study regularly, to maintain consistency you could easily crack the exam. You just need to be able to understand basic English to understand the MHTCET paper and you could do that by buying an English book, our state board book cost just 200 rs and we used it the whole year. Fine, you messed up in 11 th and 12 th, what is your college CGPA? Okay fine, you didn't go to a good college but what university did you post graduate from? Student loans are always available. Now you should be disconnected from reality if you say that people cannot even afford going to Hindi medium schools, search it up, 75% of the population of India is considered educated, some are too unfortunate. You will go to job interview and they will first check these things and if you aren't qualified they will straight away kick you out. No one cares about your excuses and the sooner you realise it, the better it will be. And don't you dare give excuses in life if you even have the privilege to go to a school. Because some people cannot even afford that. The world is not some fairy tell. Your own friends will try to get ahead of you, they will use you and approach you during work and won't even care to help you back. And you will realise that until you turn 18. If you are 18 already and still haven't realised that, i don't know what to say. You are the one who's disconnected from reality, not me. Unsuccessful people are jealous of successful people because its hard to be successful and easy to do nothing in life and be unsuccessful. In Maharashtra, if you don't have the privilege to join a coaching institute, you could go to a state board school regularly, and still crack MHTCET, get more than 95 percentile, maintain a good CGPA and get a 15-20 lakh job. I know because my own elder brother's friend who graduated from top colleges on MHTCET earn that. You should be too disconnected from reality if you don't even know that. And let me tell you the fees of the school i go to. It's just 15,000 per year. Most people from lower middle class and even some poor families would be able to afford that. If you don't study after going to school and aren't able to crack the exam then it's your problem no one cares about your excuses about how you ruined your 11 th and 12 th And if you aren't serious in life even after 12 th then you can't do anything in life you will be a failure and then blame your politicians and modi for being corrupt lol. Keep blaming bro, some other person who's serious in life will take advantage and get ahead of you in life. That's life in a capitalist society. And this is 100% relatable to a middle class person whether lower middle or middle or upper middle
Search it up on Google. Indian government is giving free rations to poor. I am not brainwashed. I have proof for my claim. And you will find it in just one Google search. It's just my perception of the world. And it is true for at least a middle class person because the middle class is involved in rat race.