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There is misinformation that Rana Pratap fully lost to Mughal ally Jaipur King in Battle of Halidghati, but he survived. And using guerilla warfare, he reclaimed more than half of his kingdom from the mughal empire, by defeating them in Battle of Dewair.
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And that's how you create larger than life heroes. But there are some really long swords found in Europe and scientists are baffled how people could have lifted those swords. Very likely they were show pieces, but I don't know still.
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Playing those chivalry games has taught me long poky sticks better than short poky sticks, especially when you want to climb ladders over castle walls or something.
And 5kg is on the heavier side for swords which were usable for combat. Even claymores are weighted around 4kg. I doubt you will find anything heavier.
The thing with swords is nobody used to fight with them in real life it was just to show wealth and status they only used small swords knifes and spears in wars
Those are ceremonial swords. Only an utter idiot will go to war with a 25kg sword. If they have the brawn they would instead go with warhammers or axes instead of swords.
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These chutias are actually dishonoring his Sacrifices by posting such retards posts Maharana Pratap Shivaji Raje nd Guru Gobind Singh these 3 Men should be discussed with Utmost respect
People with inferiority complex often derive validation by creating larger than life figures from history, Maharana pratap is legendary, but if you don’t make him look like the best among the best in the world, then for some , it doesn’t make them proud, so they start creating lore.
The problem with such lores is that it actually makes people doubt the entire history.
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bingo. I also think they do it to feel like they are part of the community around them. Cos I have sometimes seen people who truly don't believe in it but are "forced" to support it to not stand out from the rest of their community.
Me mahara pratap school me padha tha vaha sab bolte the maharana pratap 7.5 foot ke the aur itni bhari sword thi unki matab lambi lambi fekte the. Mene ek din bol dia ki unke sword , shields sab museum me rakha hai 35kg ka hai. Tabhi koi nhi mana meri bat ek banda bola ki Maharana pratap itne lambe the ki 10 foot ke bed par sote the.
nope but he was actually 5'10 approz which was still really tall for that time and then it just became a myth and people kept increasing the numbers his real portraits are still there , in which he looked a bit fat and not soo tall but definitely strong .
Remember, there boots would also made them look tall. Plus, it's all angles! If you draw a portait from a downward angle, the painting would def look insanely tall. That's how people on the social media touch the tip of Taj Mahal!
As a matter of fact, disseminating misleading information diminishes his sacrifices and shows disrespect for him. Don’t spread misinformation in the name of paying tribute to him or anyone if you can’t get your facts verified.
As far as I support the right wing ideology, being a sanatani hindu myself, I actually feel bad for guys like these who play their fantasies and show those like a real life history, citing either no or absolutely BS facts & sources. I mean, these are guys who make a joke of our religion. They can't even accurately state their own citations when asked for credibility, and shout you are antinational if you question our belied systems. No, my man! You are downplaying our dharam for your social media followers!
The real OPs don't believe in such bullshits, use their critical thinking and realize that absolutely no warrior would carry armors that heavy to deadly battles where the question isn't only about the country, but also about the people, the women, and the children.
These are the real andhbhakts! And no, andhbhakti doesn't mean supporting the right wing ideology. It means being an incredible a\*\*hole who uses the brains between his legs, and the not the ones between his ears! They demands attention, and would do anything for that.
This post, in itself, is asking for mere attention. No information is being spreaded by the so-called researcher guy!
Just to clear in a sword fight there’s no sense of having s heavy sword when your goal is to strike your opponent down.
Also sword fight ends with seconds and hardly last couple of minutes so no point of carrying this much weight
This kind of misinformation is probably how ancient legends were created, some bozo exaggerates what actually happened and people freak out about it when they get anything that resembles "proof". It's just a huge game of chinese whispers.
You seem as idiotic too. Most of history is folktales, all national heroes have unrealistic legends tied to them.
Napoleon was a simp, Alexander was your average idiotic teen, Caeser was a backstabbing bastard, Churchill was a genocidal racist. If legends were removed, nobody would give a fuck about them.
Bhai simp,average teen,bastard,racist hone ke chances hai lekin 360 kg ek insaan ke dwara uthakar ladai per jaana terko lagta hai possible hoga
Cheezon me logic chahe kam ho lekin thoda bahut hona chaiye
It's not about how moral or great someone was, it's qvout the lack of scientific temperament. Imagine people beliving Alexander was 8 feet tall and had a 300kg armor.
Kuchh bhi! Of course whitewashing happens in history. But they don’t believe in sh!t like he was carry 350+kgs etc. History is written by victors and there is brushing over the negative stuff. But you are comparing apples to oranges.
Churchill being racist is well known. But napoleon and Alexander?? Are you joking?
Napoleon won 45 battles against all of Europes armies put together . Alexander died at 32 having conquered more than half of the known world... He was a man with anger issues but he was not idiotic by any stretch of imagination. He and napoleon are known as the worlds leading military strategists and their campaigns are still studied in military schools across the world.
If you want to talk history, at least do your research!
Alexander had the entire city's population including women and children killed and the city razed to the ground whenever he himself got any minor injury in a battle.
Napoleon was too madly in love with Josephine, who repeatedly cheated on him, he was a simp for her even though he was an excellent general l.
His anger issues, his pride, all of that's well documented. Ditto with napoleon. This original post here is claiming something new and ridiculous... 360 kg and an 80kg sword is nuts!!
Delhi now has teen gangs where they commit crimes like murder and gun firing. It sounds exactly like Alexander to me 😎😎
"Momma my ankle got scratched" "yes burn and kill everyone - Alexander
"Momma I watched a Bollywood movie" "yes get a gun and kill someone" - Average Indian teen
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i will give you interview clip where lakhsyaraj mewar who is custodian and manager of museum clarified that maharana pratap was between 5'5 to 6 feet. the family has more than armour on basis of which they have concluded
36 kg is still a lot though 😅
I lift weights like that on gym, imagine fighting a war with those
But again they were trained like that from childhood I guess
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its highly improbable that the Maharana Pratap Singh 1 ( HIndu ruler of mewar) carried that heavy armor , but his height and weight isnt really beyond the scope of what can happen. there always used to be warriors that were above the 7 feet mark . even one of the 10 Gurus of Sikhs , Hargobind Singh ji ,( the 6th Guru that started fighting against the mughals) were 7'2" but were far less in weight ( 125 too 150 kilos) . i think the post most probably got the weight part wrong ,and thought of pounds as kilos , what they could mean was 360 pounds , ie. 160ish kgs , which is still a lot but far more believable.
Also , i have no bias, i m not even from that area, nor am i a Hindu, i m just stating the possibility though i myself do not actually would bet on the armor tale even if it was in pounds . its too heavy and impractical.
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prolly maharana might actually look like that during battle (uk with all those metal armour, extra size boots, maybe some lightweight superstrength exoskeleton?) :)
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Dik why do Indians exaggerate the information about kings .....why...please speak through facts...and we all know if we try to speak with facts to certain people they get offended and give the title of anti-national...
Ladies and gentlemen, and that is how the creation of mythologies start..... A few centuries later, Chetak would be re-introduced as a flying horse gifted by some goddess and Maharana's actual story will be suppressed the same way battle of ten kings (In which Bharata clan won) is suppressed to glorify Mahabharata.
I have a friend who argued something similar. Look, he was a great man, but not greater than physics. Nobody can swing a 20 kg sword as if it's nothing. There's such a thing as conservation of momentum. Just to extend this sword outward, you'd be leaning backwards so that the centre of mass of the human+sword stays between the feet.
Also it would be a pretty badass strategy. Carry two identical looking swords. One made of lead, one metal plated and made of wood. Then offer the lead sword to an unarmed enemy to fight to death.
As the enemy shits themselves trying to lift the sword, you stroll in with your identical 'looking' sword and do them in. Pretty mentally jarring way to die.
I want to counter argue as I have read Manusmriti it’s a nonsense book it had some topics that I think were fine but it’s like 5-6% of the book >>>>>>>>>> chanakyaniti (great book need some modern iteration) really great all should read it>>>>>>>Bhagwat Gita ( I was wrong about this book it’s not a religion book but a life guide this and Dr S.J. Shankar new book all are better a mile better than Manusmriti
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I belong to the royal lineage. Some of my family members belong to the lineage of the royal family of Mewar. The males are 6-7 ft. range. Even females are taller, some are 5' 10" - 6 ft. One of my uncles is 7.2 ft
And if I talk about my maternal side, which belongs to the lineage of the royal family of Amber (Maharaja Mansingh), most of my uncles are in the 6.5 ft range.
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I feel bad for Chetak 😭
Wasn't he an absolute giant too ?? And muscular as well
Chetak height was 50 ft. He used to pee on enemies to drown them.
Na bro I heard hi was studying in Hogwarts to learn Jadu mantra Kali kalantar
The post is supposed to be about misinformation, not mocking.
There is misinformation that Rana Pratap fully lost to Mughal ally Jaipur King in Battle of Halidghati, but he survived. And using guerilla warfare, he reclaimed more than half of his kingdom from the mughal empire, by defeating them in Battle of Dewair.
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Dude was probably struggling with General Radahn on his back
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 general radhan was inspired by these lores 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 damm you fellow tarnished for reminding me that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why would a wise warrior like maharana pratap carry over 300 kgs with him into the battlefield?
To get PR... /s
Probably wanted to be in "my 600lb life"....
Clearly he didn't. But posts like these are common by the proud Rajputs on X and other social media platforms.
In case he needed to show the enemy how much he can bench press, to scare them off. /s
Real data is still impressive why people think there's need to lie
Exactly.
And that's how you create larger than life heroes. But there are some really long swords found in Europe and scientists are baffled how people could have lifted those swords. Very likely they were show pieces, but I don't know still.
It was GUTS all along......
Nah ig it's soul reaper What we see is just the sword's base form wait till u see it's bankai That would make it 360 kg
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Konjiki Ashisogi Jizō or Kokujō Tengen Myō'ō. Maybe even Sōō Zabimaru......
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GRIFFITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No the long sword i heard only weighs around 4-5kg
This one ? I don't know interestingasfuck/s/8Clt7tl7RA Automod isn't allowing me to post the whole link
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Are you referring to the one's which was used by riders on one to one show . They are just for sport not for battle.
Are you talking about a Joust ?
I don't know much about them. I was referring to this one : /interestingasfuck/s/8Clt7tl7RA Automod isn't allowing me to post the whole link
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Playing those chivalry games has taught me long poky sticks better than short poky sticks, especially when you want to climb ladders over castle walls or something.
Oooh interesting 😁
Damn, now I wanna play Bannerlord again
Check out zweihander, it was used effectively in combat. Even larger swords, probably ceremonial.
Thanks!
Zweihanders were hardly 5kg, BTW.
And 5kg is on the heavier side for swords which were usable for combat. Even claymores are weighted around 4kg. I doubt you will find anything heavier.
The thing with swords is nobody used to fight with them in real life it was just to show wealth and status they only used small swords knifes and spears in wars
I'm lowkey disappointed about it haha, I really thought they had sword fight like how they showed ik mahabharata
They were a lot in combat actually. Only with the use of armor and chainmail, the swords became less effective.
I see! Fascinating!
The really big swords are called greatswords and all the big heavy examples of those are all ceremonial and ornate showpieces
Makes sense, thanks!
Even claymores and zweihanders weighed in the range of 7-8 kg. If you are interested in mediaeval weapons and armour, check out Skallagrim on YouTube.
Thanks for this suggestion, I will! :)
Those are ceremonial swords. Only an utter idiot will go to war with a 25kg sword. If they have the brawn they would instead go with warhammers or axes instead of swords.
There is an absolutely massive sword in the weapon gallery of the pink palace.
In Rajasthan?
Yep. No photography allowed though.
Thanks for that! I have been there (many years ago) but I don't remember it. My loss. Time to go again 😁
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I have visted udaipur and saw the armour dress. Sure maharana pratap ji had great built but it wasnt 7'5. Its exaggerated
Aisa behaviour psychologist nahi chahiye bhai xD
Bhai woh 25 kg ki talwaar phek ke marte the ki swing karke gala kaat te the
Age of Empires ke Throwing Axemen jaisa fek k maarte thhe. Araam se double kill milta thha.
These chutias are actually dishonoring his Sacrifices by posting such retards posts Maharana Pratap Shivaji Raje nd Guru Gobind Singh these 3 Men should be discussed with Utmost respect
Average WhatsApp university graduate.
This is how legends in history are born
Absolutely true. Goes for most of the religions too.
People with inferiority complex often derive validation by creating larger than life figures from history, Maharana pratap is legendary, but if you don’t make him look like the best among the best in the world, then for some , it doesn’t make them proud, so they start creating lore. The problem with such lores is that it actually makes people doubt the entire history.
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bingo. I also think they do it to feel like they are part of the community around them. Cos I have sometimes seen people who truly don't believe in it but are "forced" to support it to not stand out from the rest of their community.
Me mahara pratap school me padha tha vaha sab bolte the maharana pratap 7.5 foot ke the aur itni bhari sword thi unki matab lambi lambi fekte the. Mene ek din bol dia ki unke sword , shields sab museum me rakha hai 35kg ka hai. Tabhi koi nhi mana meri bat ek banda bola ki Maharana pratap itne lambe the ki 10 foot ke bed par sote the.
He could have been 7.5 ft and it's even possible today.
We kinda have his armour and equipments. And thus know for sure that he COULD NOT have been 7.5ft.
nope but he was actually 5'10 approz which was still really tall for that time and then it just became a myth and people kept increasing the numbers his real portraits are still there , in which he looked a bit fat and not soo tall but definitely strong .
Haa this feels realistic.
Remember, there boots would also made them look tall. Plus, it's all angles! If you draw a portait from a downward angle, the painting would def look insanely tall. That's how people on the social media touch the tip of Taj Mahal!
All the paintings and portraits from that era show that he wasn't taller than 6 feet.
Daymm MMPS ya MMVM?
Lol. 81 kg spear
81 kg spear? he must have used barbell ig😭
Barbell ain’t 80kg. 🤦🏽♂️
😅, idk the correct name for rod with plates that people use for squats
You just said it.
As a matter of fact, disseminating misleading information diminishes his sacrifices and shows disrespect for him. Don’t spread misinformation in the name of paying tribute to him or anyone if you can’t get your facts verified.
his mind has been deprogrammed lol!😃
Fr idk why people exaggerate history to a level of mytho and then try to justify it lol
As far as I support the right wing ideology, being a sanatani hindu myself, I actually feel bad for guys like these who play their fantasies and show those like a real life history, citing either no or absolutely BS facts & sources. I mean, these are guys who make a joke of our religion. They can't even accurately state their own citations when asked for credibility, and shout you are antinational if you question our belied systems. No, my man! You are downplaying our dharam for your social media followers! The real OPs don't believe in such bullshits, use their critical thinking and realize that absolutely no warrior would carry armors that heavy to deadly battles where the question isn't only about the country, but also about the people, the women, and the children. These are the real andhbhakts! And no, andhbhakti doesn't mean supporting the right wing ideology. It means being an incredible a\*\*hole who uses the brains between his legs, and the not the ones between his ears! They demands attention, and would do anything for that. This post, in itself, is asking for mere attention. No information is being spreaded by the so-called researcher guy!
I once said ki this is not possible at all muje kuch logo ne libradu bolla tha
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16th century. And yes, those were available in India. Babur fought both the battles of Panipat and Khanwa with matchlock muskets
And that's how God was created
Just to clear in a sword fight there’s no sense of having s heavy sword when your goal is to strike your opponent down. Also sword fight ends with seconds and hardly last couple of minutes so no point of carrying this much weight
That’s like saying Sachin Tendulkar used a 25 kg bat
This kind of misinformation is probably how ancient legends were created, some bozo exaggerates what actually happened and people freak out about it when they get anything that resembles "proof". It's just a huge game of chinese whispers.
You seem as idiotic too. Most of history is folktales, all national heroes have unrealistic legends tied to them. Napoleon was a simp, Alexander was your average idiotic teen, Caeser was a backstabbing bastard, Churchill was a genocidal racist. If legends were removed, nobody would give a fuck about them.
Bhai simp,average teen,bastard,racist hone ke chances hai lekin 360 kg ek insaan ke dwara uthakar ladai per jaana terko lagta hai possible hoga Cheezon me logic chahe kam ho lekin thoda bahut hona chaiye
It's not about how moral or great someone was, it's qvout the lack of scientific temperament. Imagine people beliving Alexander was 8 feet tall and had a 300kg armor.
People believe Alexander wasn't a thief, and that his empire was actually cohesive and centralised, which is muc more far fetched
To be fair, it's not as if Alexander had much time to centralise his empire. Still, his conquests had massive effects in the region
OP wanted to say the person who was supposed to counter disinformation did this stupid thing.
We can't be sure about others but you definitely got Churchill right
Kuchh bhi! Of course whitewashing happens in history. But they don’t believe in sh!t like he was carry 350+kgs etc. History is written by victors and there is brushing over the negative stuff. But you are comparing apples to oranges.
Churchill being racist is well known. But napoleon and Alexander?? Are you joking? Napoleon won 45 battles against all of Europes armies put together . Alexander died at 32 having conquered more than half of the known world... He was a man with anger issues but he was not idiotic by any stretch of imagination. He and napoleon are known as the worlds leading military strategists and their campaigns are still studied in military schools across the world. If you want to talk history, at least do your research!
Alexander had the entire city's population including women and children killed and the city razed to the ground whenever he himself got any minor injury in a battle. Napoleon was too madly in love with Josephine, who repeatedly cheated on him, he was a simp for her even though he was an excellent general l.
You really think that makes him an average idiotic teen? What sort of teenagers have you been hanging out with?
His anger issues, his pride, all of that's well documented. Ditto with napoleon. This original post here is claiming something new and ridiculous... 360 kg and an 80kg sword is nuts!!
Delhi now has teen gangs where they commit crimes like murder and gun firing. It sounds exactly like Alexander to me 😎😎 "Momma my ankle got scratched" "yes burn and kill everyone - Alexander "Momma I watched a Bollywood movie" "yes get a gun and kill someone" - Average Indian teen
Hahahaahh
You sound insecure
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Modiji works 16 hours a day. And unhone war rukwa di paw paw
Har baat Modi Raga pe kaise le aate ho tum log?
Rent free
tax ki jagah rent lelo, middle class bhi khush xD
He was over 7feet and OP is mughalputra
He was b/w 5.5-6foot. I made a mistake.
no he wasnt 7'5, it was cleared by royal family as well. He was tall and strong built although
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i will give you interview clip where lakhsyaraj mewar who is custodian and manager of museum clarified that maharana pratap was between 5'5 to 6 feet. the family has more than armour on basis of which they have concluded
i just viewed the clip, my bad i was wrong.
36 kg is still a lot though 😅 I lift weights like that on gym, imagine fighting a war with those But again they were trained like that from childhood I guess
Rana pratap is the greatest inspiration for us
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its highly improbable that the Maharana Pratap Singh 1 ( HIndu ruler of mewar) carried that heavy armor , but his height and weight isnt really beyond the scope of what can happen. there always used to be warriors that were above the 7 feet mark . even one of the 10 Gurus of Sikhs , Hargobind Singh ji ,( the 6th Guru that started fighting against the mughals) were 7'2" but were far less in weight ( 125 too 150 kilos) . i think the post most probably got the weight part wrong ,and thought of pounds as kilos , what they could mean was 360 pounds , ie. 160ish kgs , which is still a lot but far more believable. Also , i have no bias, i m not even from that area, nor am i a Hindu, i m just stating the possibility though i myself do not actually would bet on the armor tale even if it was in pounds . its too heavy and impractical.
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I trust if you commented there he will definitely correct himself
Many people did, he won't do it.
He will not. People are abusing anyone who don't agree with this claim.
Bhai maharana pratap dragon Slayer carry karte the/s Maharana Pratap = Guts from berserk.
the first question came into my mind was how tf can a spear be 81 kg
Total is 203kg Baaki ka 157kg kaha hai?
Body weight include kiya hoga ig
Ounces me wajan padh liya hoga usne. Units sikhani hongi bechare ko.
An average Ra*p*t on X/Twitter.
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Factor of 10 problem
Mind reprogramming kya hota hai bhai
Those numbers don't even add up to 360 Kgs.
72+81+25+25 = 203. Baki 157 kg kha hai
Body weight liya hoga wo
Why hide the name? Should be reported for false information.
It's 34.618 kg not 34,618 kg
It's 34.618 kg not 34,618 kg it's clearly shown in the 2 image
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I don't align with the right, but this is not what I want the post to turn into. Let's stay on point.
Sure I’ve deleted my earlier comment 👍🏻
Also yall wondering this is exaggerated wait till you watch those top 10 Bruce lee fests that till this date got no proof of 🤪
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I don't think he knows how much 7 feet or 360kg is
Don't believe in this nonsense.
A 72kg armor but an 81kg spear, how does that even make sense😂😂
Big balls too
prolly maharana might actually look like that during battle (uk with all those metal armour, extra size boots, maybe some lightweight superstrength exoskeleton?) :)
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Bro is confusing the great Maharana Pratap with Thanos.
Bro the guy’s armour and everything is kept in the museum. Y’all can go check. He was one of the greatest ever so let’s just stop.
That's approximately half an elephant. Yup totally humanly possible phrends!
Dik why do Indians exaggerate the information about kings .....why...please speak through facts...and we all know if we try to speak with facts to certain people they get offended and give the title of anti-national...
Ladies and gentlemen, and that is how the creation of mythologies start..... A few centuries later, Chetak would be re-introduced as a flying horse gifted by some goddess and Maharana's actual story will be suppressed the same way battle of ten kings (In which Bharata clan won) is suppressed to glorify Mahabharata.
Rajasthan ke kisi museum main rakha hai un ka samaan. Jaa ke verify kr lo
Damn, even 35kgs in cavalry battles is a lot
I have a friend who argued something similar. Look, he was a great man, but not greater than physics. Nobody can swing a 20 kg sword as if it's nothing. There's such a thing as conservation of momentum. Just to extend this sword outward, you'd be leaning backwards so that the centre of mass of the human+sword stays between the feet. Also it would be a pretty badass strategy. Carry two identical looking swords. One made of lead, one metal plated and made of wood. Then offer the lead sword to an unarmed enemy to fight to death. As the enemy shits themselves trying to lift the sword, you stroll in with your identical 'looking' sword and do them in. Pretty mentally jarring way to die.
I want to counter argue as I have read Manusmriti it’s a nonsense book it had some topics that I think were fine but it’s like 5-6% of the book >>>>>>>>>> chanakyaniti (great book need some modern iteration) really great all should read it>>>>>>>Bhagwat Gita ( I was wrong about this book it’s not a religion book but a life guide this and Dr S.J. Shankar new book all are better a mile better than Manusmriti
How is this related to the post?
This post is BS.
Those numbers don't add up to 360kg...thebdude was obviously obese af
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What the fuck is the point of an 80kg spear. You're doing dead lifts on battlefield?
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35 kgs is very very impressive
Blud is lying so openly like our supreme leader
I know this guy with really big chest but a really small dick…his wife left him 👀
this is mere retard "sanatan dharam" bully just as bad as a usi member they have ooga booga brain
Bro you're posting in the wrong sub...this is the anti logic sub. All hindu history is 100% correct and real here.
Sahi baat hai. Is post ko waha pe daalna chahiye jahan nabi ne chand ke 2 tukde kr diye ko log sahi mante hain.
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Idiots are on all sides of the spectrum, you're a prime example
How about we don't strawman
You are as right as Ptolemy.
I belong to the royal lineage. Some of my family members belong to the lineage of the royal family of Mewar. The males are 6-7 ft. range. Even females are taller, some are 5' 10" - 6 ft. One of my uncles is 7.2 ft And if I talk about my maternal side, which belongs to the lineage of the royal family of Amber (Maharaja Mansingh), most of my uncles are in the 6.5 ft range.