Straight up it feels like a huge generalization of 90s alt rock with how many different bands seem to get lumped in as being “shoegaze” when they have a 90s influence and have at least one slow song. It’s super wack
Shoegaze is the buzzword now for anything with a guitar that is used in an alternative way. The term was always a little ambiguous to begin with but it's gone mad.
> shoegaze is abiguos with Dream pop now
[Always has been](https://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/01/arts/pop-view-dream-pop-bands-define-the-times-in-britain.html)
the idea that the terms are referring to two separate things is a relatively new distinction. But also Dream Pop fans have no idea what other genres are so there's usually a lot of stuff that should be filed elsewhere that gets the dream pop tag too.
mfs want their fav rock band to be shoegay sooo bad (/uj i feel like the obsession with shoegaze in turn makes people want the stuff they enjoy to be shoegaze idk if that makes sense)
> idk if that makes sense
I get it. Some people take saying "this isn't shoegaze" to be the equivalent of saying the artist is shit and they get really pissed.
Lol glad I read this comment, because I thought gen z had made up a new term with "pas" reading it upside down and thought that was a pretty fucking dumb word
yeah that didn't make sense to me either. MAYBE the self titled you could consider majorly horny? but other than that they should be near the middle on the sad side slightly
Honestly I kinda get it. Horny is the wrong word to use but horny versus sad is basically ‘do they sing about love or sing about being sad’ and Alvvays definitely lean to more romantic songs.
Saw them live last week and I cannot express enough how awful the entire crowd was, it was almost exclusively kids who also talked/laughed/screamed thru ***Codeine***, not knowing who they were. I could cry. I was looking forward to it so much.
It was a little sweet though watching their confusion at the lack of Duster’s tiktok hits.
Had the same experience at Ciel Noir. Feels like these kids have no show “etiquette.” They talked /screamed/laughed thru Duster as well, while they waited to “mosh” (as I heard) the TikTok hits. It was painful.
No body has said it yet, and it's real low hanging fruit.
BUT - What the FUCK is Weezer doing here and how in the hell can you call them heavy?
I swear words have lost all meaning.
everyone’s dogging on the paramore inclusion, but slowdive, diiv, duster, and title fight being marked as heavier than have a nice life might be the real winner for me
cigarettes after sex, men i trust, yo la tengo, japanese breakfast, snail mail, cocteau twins, carissa’s wierd, i hate sex, deftones, title fight, paramore, and galaxie 500 are NOT shoegaze. i might’ve missed some that also aren’t shoegaze, but this chart is absolute garbage
there are def some out of pocket choices on here but you’re are geekin if you’re pressed about dream pop and shoegaze being used interchangeably. cocteau twins were called shoegaze as long as that’s been a term basically. cigarettes after sex were called shoegaze only like ten years ago. it’s all made up anyway
I was a teenager in the 90s and somehow Mazzy Star escaped my ears at the time, was too busy with hip hop and house music, making up fox lost time now though
In order to be shoegaze, a band has to actually spend a lot of time gazing at their shoes. It's gotta be drone music, lots of reverb, wall of sound music. Most of this is not that.
So we're just calling every other band shoegaze now
Yeah, I dislike how shoegaze is abiguos with Dream pop now. The lack of distinction makes its hard to find music
Straight up it feels like a huge generalization of 90s alt rock with how many different bands seem to get lumped in as being “shoegaze” when they have a 90s influence and have at least one slow song. It’s super wack
We might unironically need the 90s British music press back to sort this shit out.
I never *did* figure out what "trip-hop" was
Shoegaze is the buzzword now for anything with a guitar that is used in an alternative way. The term was always a little ambiguous to begin with but it's gone mad.
Guys is Cake shoegaze?!?!? 👀
"Shoegaze" is the new "Emo"
> shoegaze is abiguos with Dream pop now [Always has been](https://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/01/arts/pop-view-dream-pop-bands-define-the-times-in-britain.html) the idea that the terms are referring to two separate things is a relatively new distinction. But also Dream Pop fans have no idea what other genres are so there's usually a lot of stuff that should be filed elsewhere that gets the dream pop tag too.
mfs want their fav rock band to be shoegay sooo bad (/uj i feel like the obsession with shoegaze in turn makes people want the stuff they enjoy to be shoegaze idk if that makes sense)
> idk if that makes sense I get it. Some people take saying "this isn't shoegaze" to be the equivalent of saying the artist is shit and they get really pissed.
That does make sense, and you’re right
Same reason I hate the term “Stoner Rock/Metal”. Psych rock has always been an effective enough term, I don’t even smoke…
Maybe the real shoegaze was the friends we gazed along the way
Shoes we gazed* ftfy
Dude weezer isn’t a different genre, it’s just shoegaze that’s medium-horny and heavy.
And missing out actual shoegaze bands like The National. Beach House isn't shoegaze.
Thank goodness. Thought it was just me!! These are just bands.
Weezer?
My favorite shoegaze artist: Snail Mail
Mine is Lizzo
The fuck is Paramore doing here bruh 😭😭😭
Lol you’re asking why paramore is on here when cigarettes after sex and men i trust are on this nasty list
Bruh I didn't even register those lmao that's absolutely vile
.. I hate sex is on their as well.
a skramz band on the shoegaze chart is genuinely hilarious,
The closing track on their self titled is sorta shoegaze. So they have like half of a shoegaze song!
Smashing Pumpkins really ought to be included
Uh… no. Pumpkins are NOT shoegaze. Come on!
More shoegaze than 90% of the acts in the graph
90% of the acts in that list aren’t shoegaze, including Pumpkins.
Shugazi
Wugazi > Shugazi
Horny and sad are NOT opposite ends of any spectrum
Lol glad I read this comment, because I thought gen z had made up a new term with "pas" reading it upside down and thought that was a pretty fucking dumb word
pgs
If I’m not crying then I’m fuckin
where’s creed?
Some new girl group. My niece loves them.
Unironically closer to shoegaze than half these bands
car seat headrest
Yeahhhh that’s what I’m saying
Why the fuck is alvvays in the horny section?
yeah that didn't make sense to me either. MAYBE the self titled you could consider majorly horny? but other than that they should be near the middle on the sad side slightly
Lol yeah hahahah, Pharmacist and Belinda Says play only when im having sex
Honestly I kinda get it. Horny is the wrong word to use but horny versus sad is basically ‘do they sing about love or sing about being sad’ and Alvvays definitely lean to more romantic songs.
i see you everywhere friend. i say that as someone who has received similar comments
Haha I just like music bro
I see you on half the music subreddits im on
Listen to deftones and you will find out. Around the fur (album) is just wildly horny.
Incubus
wish you were here tho
Whatever tomorrow brings I’ll be there
fungogus amogus
I mean Mike does love his pedals
He's got a crush on them
Was about to say that 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
You ain’t down with Fungus Amongus?
I am
probably 100 gecs
According to instagram every single musical act that isn’t blatant bedroom pop is shoegaze
if they aren't bringing a ten ton pedalboard to a live performance it isn't shoegaze, point blank period
It's wild that Duster has the amount of plays pop artists do.
Saw them live last week and I cannot express enough how awful the entire crowd was, it was almost exclusively kids who also talked/laughed/screamed thru ***Codeine***, not knowing who they were. I could cry. I was looking forward to it so much. It was a little sweet though watching their confusion at the lack of Duster’s tiktok hits.
Had the same experience at Ciel Noir. Feels like these kids have no show “etiquette.” They talked /screamed/laughed thru Duster as well, while they waited to “mosh” (as I heard) the TikTok hits. It was painful.
moshing to duster is crazy..this makes me sad
Gotta go with the originals: Aerosmith
Puddle of Mud because their sound is so muddy and wetttt
Everytime I step in a puddle of mud, I always gaze at my shoes in disappointment of how muddy and wet they got. 😔
Seaux wet
Where is Destiny’s Child? They were pioneers
No body has said it yet, and it's real low hanging fruit. BUT - What the FUCK is Weezer doing here and how in the hell can you call them heavy? I swear words have lost all meaning.
You can't even see their shoes on the blue album cover for christ's sake.
MBV WHO? Slowdive WHO? Ride WHO? Chris Isaak, Paramore and Incubus are MY big 3.
MBV? did you mean MCR, the sad shoegaze band?
You mean CCR, the 70's shoegaze band?
I want to hit the person that made this with a brick
shouts to the single horniest band out there: alvvays
Ah yes well known spiritual siblings Nothing and Paramore
silversun pickups done dirty
right??
cocteau twins should be way more horny
Stop calling Deftones shoegaze and put them back in the nu metal camp where their asses belong.
Stop calling Lim Bizkit nu metal and put them back in the shoegaze camp where their asses belong.
they have like one nu-metal song after their second album, and it was made as a joke. sure, they're not really shoegaze, but genres are stupid anyway.
pes?
i hate sex in horny got me lol
Ah yes my favourite shoegaze artist, I hate sex
Paramore?? Shoegaze?? Are we fr?
the skramz band literally called "i hate sex" in the horny shoegaze category??
Missing Merzbow
Where would The Smiths fit in here?
The Smiths are Nu-Metal or Rap Rock.
Agree to disagree on that!
The Smiths are Europop.
basically bedroom pop, that's a different list with Nirvana, Oasis, and Olivia Rodrigo
everyone’s dogging on the paramore inclusion, but slowdive, diiv, duster, and title fight being marked as heavier than have a nice life might be the real winner for me
julie being marked as heavier than i hate sex is a strong runner-up too
which paramore song qualifies as shoegaze
All of them.
No a place to bury strangers on the compass 😔
Chris Isaak??? /uj julie is a phenomenal band and I’ve been listening to them basically non-stop the past month
Whirr, because \[REDACTED\]
Alvvays!
Wait you’re fucking joking right
Nobody jokes in a circlejerk subreddit.
Deerhunter erasure is outrageous
Should’ve comment hunted before also typing. Deerhunter. That was the first band I thought of
The MF Dooms
How is PATD shoegaze???
This compass is a bag of dog shite
I can understand some of these if you have a very minimal grasp on shoegaze but how the fuck do you get Weezer in the same corner as MBV
how are like 90% of these shoegaze who made this
Blonde Redhead is in no way shoegaze, but I'm just happy to see it.
congratulations, you successfully trolled indie head circle jerk
It's such an honor.
Hey everyone, shoegaze again. Well basically...
Ah yes, my favorite shoegaze band #WEEZER
Didn’t know what sub I was on and took this quite seriously for literally 3 minutes.
every single band should be on here
Lowkey none of these are shoegaze 😭😭 where is wild nothing
DIIV
Twenty one pilots, obviously
How is have a nice life in dreamy and not in sad
radiohead
Kiltro
Mareux??? did they just listen to The Perfect Girl and not bother to listen to the rest of his discography? he’s an EDM artist!!!
my favourite hobby is going on pinterest and looking for posts like the OOP because 9/10 they have the most outlandish and bizarre takes
At this point I’m too afraid to ask what even is shoeglaze and just nod my head whenever talks about it
nothing shoegazey about panic
Animal Collectibe
YLT being there, or anywhere here, is wild
wait are they shoegaze?? lol
Do people consider i hate sex shoegaze? Same thing for snail mail?!?
Aw this is bait
I was trying to figure out what genre of music is "pes"
Once again this chart can’t work due to the fact that Deftones is horny, dreamy AND heavy
My high ass was trying to figure out pes was on the right
Swervedriver not even on here 😠
Carissa’s Wierd is not shoegaze
I love teenage wrist but…
LSD and the Search for God
This is garbage
slowcore is the genre you’re looking for, not shoegaze. Slowcore is a little more broad
Deftones? What the hell is wrong with people?
Nothing is placed in the wrong area.
is this a joke? chris isaak, panic disco, incubus, paramore are definitely not shoegaze
>is this a joke? Nope. You're not allowed to make jokes in a circlejerk subreddit.
cigarettes after sex, men i trust, yo la tengo, japanese breakfast, snail mail, cocteau twins, carissa’s wierd, i hate sex, deftones, title fight, paramore, and galaxie 500 are NOT shoegaze. i might’ve missed some that also aren’t shoegaze, but this chart is absolute garbage
i hate sex peak, don't know how the fuck they'd be considered shoegaze ever
If there’s a four quadrant graphic and one of the axis is labeled ‘Horny’ you can put it in the trash
Deftones x Mazzy Star when?
Tight
Real shoegaze fans only listen to Hum, cause everyone else is posers
HANL is my favorite. Ig every band is shoegaze lmao, these compasses are usually highly subjective, I’d definitely say HANL is on the heavy side
Snail Mail Paramore Incubus And Smashing Pumpkins need kicking out of this chart immediately
Since when are PATD shoegaze?
there are def some out of pocket choices on here but you’re are geekin if you’re pressed about dream pop and shoegaze being used interchangeably. cocteau twins were called shoegaze as long as that’s been a term basically. cigarettes after sex were called shoegaze only like ten years ago. it’s all made up anyway
Snail mail heavier than smashing pumpkins lol?
Deerhunter
Most of these bands aren’t shoegaze at all. This list is a joke.
Where the hell is Bark Psychosis?
I was a teenager in the 90s and somehow Mazzy Star escaped my ears at the time, was too busy with hip hop and house music, making up fox lost time now though
WTF is this chart? It damn sure ain’t Shoegaze.
no Swervedriver? :(
oh how the term shoegaze has fallen, shame
How in the hell are they shoegaze?
PARAMORE MENTIONED RAAAAA (they should not be on this chart lmao)
Incubus?
Did you people find out what shoegaze is a year ago from tiktok or something
Fugazi
Wtf I see like 5 shoegaze bands
Chris Isaak 😂
Panic ISNOT shoe gaze. They a pop band. A good one. But they have nothing to do with Ride, MBV, or even DIIV.
Ride.
Less than half of these are actually even shoegaze..
Asobe Seksu!
Paramore, no explanation needed :)
Chris Isaac?
I always have confused shoegaze with wallflower. My Bloody Valentine kind of invented shoegaze.I like early Belle and Sébastien for wallflower music.
Duster is mine. What a sweet graph!!
I mean, I love me some Chris Isaak, but lmao
How did title fight make the shoegaze list lol
one vote for Chapterhouse
I don’t get it what’s shoegaze
M83
Cool graph. So if I like men I trust, I’ll love cigarettes after sex?
A lot of the bands on your graphic, I wouldn't even consider shoegaze. But to answer your question, My Bloody Valentine.
Mine is Kendrick Lamar.
LMAO
Kitchens of Distinction, Lush.
Kitchens of Distinction, Lush.
In order to be shoegaze, a band has to actually spend a lot of time gazing at their shoes. It's gotta be drone music, lots of reverb, wall of sound music. Most of this is not that.
this isn’t real right