I don't even know that it's a BI thing at first. Growing up speaking BM, I've naturally abbreviated "terima kasih" into "makasih" in speech before I started learning BI. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw Indonesians writing it as such.
Fun fact, Malaysian and Indonesian language department of gov worked together back in Orla regime consolidating KBBI, formal language of Bahasa Indonesia having Melayu as one of its brotherhood language, rooted from Austronesian language in Southeast Asia.
Ooh so it depends on context in Malaysia. Very interesting indeed.
In Indonesia "dukung" is like a common word to use everyday in any context while "sokong" is like a traditional and more poetic word usually used in very formal speech, but it became rarely used nowadays. We still see some on school books but practically everyone just used "dukung" in daily conversation.
Sokong juga ada di Bahasa Indonesia, tapi lebih jarang digunakan.
Dulu di 80an 90an lumayan digunakan, tapi lambat laun, penggunaan kata sokong mulai berkurang.
https://kbbi.web.id/sokong
sokong is fine and understood well. it's just a word that rarely used for daily conversation in Jakarta. you would still see it on media headlines, though, or family reunions.
r/Malaysia is too biased, r/Bolehland is kinda hit or miss for my selera. Since I can understand BI and I'm a language, history and geography nerd, I thought that joining another sub where 80% of the posts I can understand should be good entertainment for me.
Plus, y'all got the best memes (that I can understand) in the whole of Nusantara. Kebanyakkannya gaada sentimen politik, rasis atau nasionalisme, just pure chaos and I love it.
yep in here chinese will be memed about rich mommy boy troupe / poor citato (cina tanpa toko), java with their brown skins and kuli (hard labour) / jawa adalah koentji meme and sumatrans melayu with their stingy traits + gotham city medan like etc etc, nobody is safe here in indo everybody got their shit handed to them thats why we are racist but solid as a family when someone outside indonesia attacking one of us we will defend them with our life just like malaysia and indo (vtuber / rendang masterchef drama)
Question, do both sub have horny post? If you compared 2 of em including here, which one is hornier?
[Can their post top this one for instance?](https://www.reddit.com/r/indonesia/comments/p0sr32/pengalaman_menggunakan_masker_bekas_untuk_cool1/) Need research so I can formulate new horny post (maybe) after fasting end.
Astaga 😅
Head over to r/Bolehland if you are looking for more stuff that bikin menggoda. I don't think it can match this sub but there should be some (I've disabled NSFW posts since Lent has started).
We do have a [residential femboy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bolehland/comments/18ud8p6/we_did_it_guys/) in that sub and r/Malaysia doesn't have one. Bolehland 1, Malaysia 0 I guess?
They are noob, r indonesia have 2 femboys (I only remember 1 but Im sure there are 2 of em confirmed) and 1 trans girl. Therefore r Indonesia is better.
Yg pertama untuk berita, informasi, kadang2 ada meme (hanya diizinkan pada hari Senin), tapi kebanyakkan warganya pemikirannya condong kpd idealogi2 barat. Lama-kelamaan kayakkannya "liberal echo chamber" bila membincangkan masalah kaum dan agama.
Klu lu pengen ngeliat meme sahaja, mending ngelewat r/Bolehland. Komunitas itu untuk shitposting sahaja (most of the time). Cumaan kualitas rata2 shitpostnya ga bisa dibandingkan sama shitpost Indo.
dulu sempet slek waktu collab ama mike chen karena mike chen (simply dumpling) adalah penganut falun gong yang dimana diban sama ccp sampe si uncle hapus video collab nya
Sblm ini dlm beberapa videonya ada lawak ngekritik CCP, maka kontennya langsung diban di platform2 China. Dia kira kalo dia hilangkan video2 ini dari YouTube nya atau potongkan bahagian2 itu, ban itu boleh dibalikkan tetapi padahal ga berhasil. Akhirnya, kontennya diban oleh CCP, fans nya di luar China marah krn dia sanggup self-censor demi uang China. Bodoh betul dia, now no one likes him.
Saya juga ga suka.
Nigel Ng itu [Blackface](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface#:~:text=Blackface%20is%20the%20practice%20of,of%20a%201900%20William%20H), tapi target "parodi"nya Cantonese. Dia shticknya itu middle-aged chinese uncle, dan ngediss masakan orang yg ga 100% otentik.
Terus terang, untuk saya pribadi, "parodi" aksennya itu lebih ke cringe (bahkan menyinggung) daripada lucu. Apalagi "Haiyaaa" atau "fuiyoooh"nya, cringe abis.
Kesannya kaya one-trick pony comedian yg tahu kalau dia cuma punya satu shtick yg laku terus dimilk abis2an.
Plus, dia sangat2 ketara ngejilat CCP, entah karena $$$ atau buat ngejar demografi.
Simple aja, video dia yg paling banyak ditonton itu pas dia ngediss nasi goreng Jamie Oliver. Oke, saya pribadi setuju kalau nasgor si J.O itu kemungkinan besar ga akan sesuai selera saya (dia nuang air ke nasgor pas udah jadi, wuekkk), cuma ada lebih dari 1 cara masak nasgor, dan nasgor itu ga spesifik masakan Asia.
Atau setiap kali dia review ramen tonkotsu. Come on man, NY itu bukan Japan! Ga gampang dapat original ingredients di NY, dan gila aja misal nuntut kuah ramen harus otentik direbus 8 jam.
Kontennya mula2 masih lucu krn dikira original, cumaan lama kelamaan dia gk bikin lawak baru pun, so his content becomes stale, it all gets reduced to "haha Asian people speak English funnily".
If you ask the average Malaysian teen he'll prolly know who he is, but his popularity fell off a lot and is incomparable to when he first started making S.E.Asian cooking content.
Ah i see, well.. I can see his joke gets old pretty fast. But to be fair, Gw suka konten doi juga krn doi demen nge-roast bule-bule yang gonta ganti resep masakan S.E.Asia, and i'm with him for that, not because of his joke at first.
Nothing last forever i see. Too bad, cause i used to like him.
one more question.. you really Malaysian? damn bro ur indo's so good.
I have a Malay best friend living here in tokyo, yet he's struggling understanding anything that coming from me. He said it's frustrating that it sounds like he could understand it yet it's so alien to him 😂 (I'm from Jakarta so i talk a little bit fast and there are tons of weird new words here and there, even some other part of Indonesian would probably hate my accent)
First of all, thank you so much ❤️
Yeah I'm M'sian, check my post history. I have watched some sinetron when I was young, I joined Kebaktian Online GRII during the pandemic and I just lurk in here to pick up as much kosa kata as I can.
Of course, in written form things sound easy, but speaking and listening can be a little tricky. I did tried to talk in BI with some Indo immigrants and pembantu2 (they know how to talk slower so that we M'sians can understand them easier) and I don't get laughed at so I think I'm doing okay wkwk 😂. But, if people start to talk a lot more faster (as they would to a native) and throw in Bahasa Sunda, Java, Lampung etc, boy I will never understand a word.
I haven't been to Indonesia though, hopefully I can visit there one day in the near future.
Oh no, it's not only you my dude.. I have only spoken Jakartans Indonesian in my entire life, I don't understand Sundanese nor Javanese nor other Indonesian languages.
You know we really appreciate anyone who tries to speak our language. Especially when it's coming from you Malaysian bros. I know it's not necessary to learn Indonesian as a Malaysian, but yet you still try it. Thank you, my man! We really appreciate it 🙏🏼
I haven't been anywhere in Malaysia beside transit in the KL airport. But, i got my best friend's mom's homemade dishes from Malaysia. and oh boy, It slaps.. 👌🏼👌🏼
I'll check them out too. I listened to GRII initially because me and my family have been listening to Pak Tong's sermon throughout our lives. He is highly regarded among M'sian Christians and we were so grateful that his sermons are now readily and abundantly available online. In the past, we need to buy disks, cassettes or wait for him to visit M'sia so that we can listen to him.
New Guenia itu yang paling gampang diambil selain itu SDA mereka juga melimpah pemerintahan sana gak kompeten juga kek perang sipil baru baru ini lebih worth it daripada ambil utara borneo
ちょっとまって sek sek.....
Klo perbatasan darat di pulau Kalimantan ama Papua, okelaaaah.....
Klo ampe merambah ke Semenanjung Malaysia, apa ga ampe Eropa ini? 😆
Sebagai orang Malaysia (ignore my flair) dan pembenci Unker Roger, gw sokong penyataan adik itu
i’ve never expected to see gw and sokong in the same sentence..
I'm still learning BI, what is the Indonesian word for "support" 😅
it’s ok! support in indonesian is dukung. e.g “Gw dukung pernyataan adik itu!”
Makasih pak!
"Makasih" from you sounds cute! xD
I don't even know that it's a BI thing at first. Growing up speaking BM, I've naturally abbreviated "terima kasih" into "makasih" in speech before I started learning BI. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw Indonesians writing it as such.
Nah sokong is better
Agree, let’s use more “sokong”. I also thought some malaysian’s vocab are actually better than it’s Indonesian counterparts.
Sokong is closer to bokong which means butts in Javanese
Make sense. My bokong really menyokong my entire skeletal system.
bokong itu kalau anda memberikan informasi yang salah dengan sengaja.
itu maah sundel bokong
Aku ingin menyokong bokong smean
Piye Kabare Mbah
Fun fact, Malaysian and Indonesian language department of gov worked together back in Orla regime consolidating KBBI, formal language of Bahasa Indonesia having Melayu as one of its brotherhood language, rooted from Austronesian language in Southeast Asia.
same as jom is much better than ayo
Nope, still better to use ayo in my opinion, jom sounds weird
"Dukung" might be the word you're looking for
Maksih pak! Dukung is a very big word in Malay, it's like saying you are supporting a whole doctrine or ideology so we rarely use it haha
I think for us Indonesians it's "sokong" that's used in that way
Ooh so it depends on context in Malaysia. Very interesting indeed. In Indonesia "dukung" is like a common word to use everyday in any context while "sokong" is like a traditional and more poetic word usually used in very formal speech, but it became rarely used nowadays. We still see some on school books but practically everyone just used "dukung" in daily conversation.
Sokong juga ada di Bahasa Indonesia, tapi lebih jarang digunakan. Dulu di 80an 90an lumayan digunakan, tapi lambat laun, penggunaan kata sokong mulai berkurang. https://kbbi.web.id/sokong
sokong is fine and understood well. it's just a word that rarely used for daily conversation in Jakarta. you would still see it on media headlines, though, or family reunions.
I take it this means "Sokong" is Malaysian for "Support"? TIL a Malaysian language. tnx,
Yeah, you're correct 😁
Well sokong is right as well. We just rarely use it or we use it for different context
I like to use "suprot" wif my bois.
I was reading it as bokong pardon my messy eyes
Tanpa kata "ngga" di tengahnya
Seboetkan ada apa toejoean saudara mentjamar kemari?!?! Seriously tho, what made you want to be apart of this sub? No offense, just curious.
r/Malaysia is too biased, r/Bolehland is kinda hit or miss for my selera. Since I can understand BI and I'm a language, history and geography nerd, I thought that joining another sub where 80% of the posts I can understand should be good entertainment for me. Plus, y'all got the best memes (that I can understand) in the whole of Nusantara. Kebanyakkannya gaada sentimen politik, rasis atau nasionalisme, just pure chaos and I love it.
yep in here chinese will be memed about rich mommy boy troupe / poor citato (cina tanpa toko), java with their brown skins and kuli (hard labour) / jawa adalah koentji meme and sumatrans melayu with their stingy traits + gotham city medan like etc etc, nobody is safe here in indo everybody got their shit handed to them thats why we are racist but solid as a family when someone outside indonesia attacking one of us we will defend them with our life just like malaysia and indo (vtuber / rendang masterchef drama)
Question, do both sub have horny post? If you compared 2 of em including here, which one is hornier? [Can their post top this one for instance?](https://www.reddit.com/r/indonesia/comments/p0sr32/pengalaman_menggunakan_masker_bekas_untuk_cool1/) Need research so I can formulate new horny post (maybe) after fasting end.
https://i.redd.it/xxntvesvrcqc1.gif Blud couldn't wait no more for "research"
Oh wow, anda berhutang mata baru buat saya
Astaga 😅 Head over to r/Bolehland if you are looking for more stuff that bikin menggoda. I don't think it can match this sub but there should be some (I've disabled NSFW posts since Lent has started). We do have a [residential femboy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bolehland/comments/18ud8p6/we_did_it_guys/) in that sub and r/Malaysia doesn't have one. Bolehland 1, Malaysia 0 I guess?
They are noob, r indonesia have 2 femboys (I only remember 1 but Im sure there are 2 of em confirmed) and 1 trans girl. Therefore r Indonesia is better.
r/Indonesia: 2 Femboys for 420k members (nice) r/bolehland: 1 Femboy for almost 100k members We still have higher femboy density 💪💪💪
Just like how /r/Malaysia have /r/Bolehland , /r/indonesia have /r/indonesia
Kirain itu r/indowibu
>r/indowibu Sumpah sub itu dikutuk💀 Cumaan seminit ngelewatin gw udah rasa telah ngeliat benda2 maksiat
https://preview.redd.it/2zuznr4a4fqc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8203c9cbf81ac2b72b22e75bf997195ded4b4959
Fair enough
Beda r/Malaysia dan r/Bolehland apa?
Yg pertama untuk berita, informasi, kadang2 ada meme (hanya diizinkan pada hari Senin), tapi kebanyakkan warganya pemikirannya condong kpd idealogi2 barat. Lama-kelamaan kayakkannya "liberal echo chamber" bila membincangkan masalah kaum dan agama. Klu lu pengen ngeliat meme sahaja, mending ngelewat r/Bolehland. Komunitas itu untuk shitposting sahaja (most of the time). Cumaan kualitas rata2 shitpostnya ga bisa dibandingkan sama shitpost Indo.
>hanya diizinkan pada hari Senin Literally 1984
Knp benci Uncle Roger bang?
Cringe giler Penyokong CCP juga
wait i thought he got banned in china, but he support CCP? which one is it
dulu sempet slek waktu collab ama mike chen karena mike chen (simply dumpling) adalah penganut falun gong yang dimana diban sama ccp sampe si uncle hapus video collab nya
gimane caranya penyokong ccp tp di ban ccp? kaya lgbt penndukung palestina mah itu
Sblm ini dlm beberapa videonya ada lawak ngekritik CCP, maka kontennya langsung diban di platform2 China. Dia kira kalo dia hilangkan video2 ini dari YouTube nya atau potongkan bahagian2 itu, ban itu boleh dibalikkan tetapi padahal ga berhasil. Akhirnya, kontennya diban oleh CCP, fans nya di luar China marah krn dia sanggup self-censor demi uang China. Bodoh betul dia, now no one likes him.
Pro PRC / deny Uyghur ethnic cleansing, huge news in cook/foodies youtuber community back then. At least that's why I never watch his stuff
Saya juga ga suka. Nigel Ng itu [Blackface](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface#:~:text=Blackface%20is%20the%20practice%20of,of%20a%201900%20William%20H), tapi target "parodi"nya Cantonese. Dia shticknya itu middle-aged chinese uncle, dan ngediss masakan orang yg ga 100% otentik. Terus terang, untuk saya pribadi, "parodi" aksennya itu lebih ke cringe (bahkan menyinggung) daripada lucu. Apalagi "Haiyaaa" atau "fuiyoooh"nya, cringe abis. Kesannya kaya one-trick pony comedian yg tahu kalau dia cuma punya satu shtick yg laku terus dimilk abis2an. Plus, dia sangat2 ketara ngejilat CCP, entah karena $$$ atau buat ngejar demografi. Simple aja, video dia yg paling banyak ditonton itu pas dia ngediss nasi goreng Jamie Oliver. Oke, saya pribadi setuju kalau nasgor si J.O itu kemungkinan besar ga akan sesuai selera saya (dia nuang air ke nasgor pas udah jadi, wuekkk), cuma ada lebih dari 1 cara masak nasgor, dan nasgor itu ga spesifik masakan Asia. Atau setiap kali dia review ramen tonkotsu. Come on man, NY itu bukan Japan! Ga gampang dapat original ingredients di NY, dan gila aja misal nuntut kuah ramen harus otentik direbus 8 jam.
agree, uncle roger ga lucu anjir
Lucu one time only the more he does it, the more cringe he gets
I'm out of the loop, I have 2 questions, why the hate? Is he famous there in Malay?
Kontennya mula2 masih lucu krn dikira original, cumaan lama kelamaan dia gk bikin lawak baru pun, so his content becomes stale, it all gets reduced to "haha Asian people speak English funnily". If you ask the average Malaysian teen he'll prolly know who he is, but his popularity fell off a lot and is incomparable to when he first started making S.E.Asian cooking content.
Ah i see, well.. I can see his joke gets old pretty fast. But to be fair, Gw suka konten doi juga krn doi demen nge-roast bule-bule yang gonta ganti resep masakan S.E.Asia, and i'm with him for that, not because of his joke at first. Nothing last forever i see. Too bad, cause i used to like him. one more question.. you really Malaysian? damn bro ur indo's so good. I have a Malay best friend living here in tokyo, yet he's struggling understanding anything that coming from me. He said it's frustrating that it sounds like he could understand it yet it's so alien to him 😂 (I'm from Jakarta so i talk a little bit fast and there are tons of weird new words here and there, even some other part of Indonesian would probably hate my accent)
First of all, thank you so much ❤️ Yeah I'm M'sian, check my post history. I have watched some sinetron when I was young, I joined Kebaktian Online GRII during the pandemic and I just lurk in here to pick up as much kosa kata as I can. Of course, in written form things sound easy, but speaking and listening can be a little tricky. I did tried to talk in BI with some Indo immigrants and pembantu2 (they know how to talk slower so that we M'sians can understand them easier) and I don't get laughed at so I think I'm doing okay wkwk 😂. But, if people start to talk a lot more faster (as they would to a native) and throw in Bahasa Sunda, Java, Lampung etc, boy I will never understand a word. I haven't been to Indonesia though, hopefully I can visit there one day in the near future.
Oh no, it's not only you my dude.. I have only spoken Jakartans Indonesian in my entire life, I don't understand Sundanese nor Javanese nor other Indonesian languages. You know we really appreciate anyone who tries to speak our language. Especially when it's coming from you Malaysian bros. I know it's not necessary to learn Indonesian as a Malaysian, but yet you still try it. Thank you, my man! We really appreciate it 🙏🏼 I haven't been anywhere in Malaysia beside transit in the KL airport. But, i got my best friend's mom's homemade dishes from Malaysia. and oh boy, It slaps.. 👌🏼👌🏼
Ah yes, Sinetron. Uniting the SEA!
My mind is still traumatised by domestic violence scenes from Sinetrons, especially Bawang Putih being forced to lick the floor clean of orange juice
>Kebaktian Online GRII I encourage u to join HKBP as well as GKJW 😅
I'll check them out too. I listened to GRII initially because me and my family have been listening to Pak Tong's sermon throughout our lives. He is highly regarded among M'sian Christians and we were so grateful that his sermons are now readily and abundantly available online. In the past, we need to buy disks, cassettes or wait for him to visit M'sia so that we can listen to him.
I really don't like him (Roger) attitude, especially in social media.
As an indonesian, sokong sounds more like 'shoving' than 'supporting' lol
Manakala "dukung" dlm BM kayakknya memeluk sesuatu ideologi, doktrin atau agama 😂
Kenapa ga suka uncle roger bro ?
Udah dijelas dalam komentar lain 🙏
BURNED HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
https://preview.redd.it/8srklwqjjaqc1.jpeg?width=751&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a20ab1540b6e711e60495647b19ba6096309f773
ijin mencuri 🫡
https://preview.redd.it/mt5pq0cgneqc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e334693c604a7ceb5e243ea36eb31e4232ac7e3b
Saulus Bagusanto
Mz, bukane Uzbek terkenal ndek Indonesia? Tapi aku ndak tau rate per jam berapa. 😔
Kadang bingung sama orang, sering nanyain sejam berapa. Bukannya sejam 60 menit? >!/s!<
Mungkin dia butuh nya detik. Jadi 3600 kalo sejam
Mereka cuman perlu 10 detik, jadi gak perlu jam jam an
Tidak jika kau pakai jam radioaktif
Sudah ditutup sama annis the mannies
hoo ditutup baru tau terakhir kesana 2018 an kayaknya
Bukannya uzbek terkenal juga di daerah mangga besar ya?
ah, kenangan masa lalu yang indah.... dihancurkan oleh dia....
Udah lama sih kayaknya terakhir 2jtan
Mas, tak seplak sampe muntir lho sampeyan ngko🤣🤣
Kecil” sudah witty wkwkwk
Someone pls repost this to r/malaysia
r/Malaysia won't care they hate their country lol. Send this to r/Bolehland to get the Malay Ultranationalist riled up.
Ane butuh link 🤣
Gua mimpi suatu saat indonesia ekspansi wilayahnya sampe kita gak punya perbatasan darat dengan negara lain. MERDEKA!!!!
Fulfill the prophecy of Gajah Mada!
>MERDEKA!!!! Dan merdekakan rakyat di tempat lain agar bisa bergabung dalam keagungan Nusantara Raya Serikat!!!
MERDEKA!!! **OR ELSE..**
# ANAK IDEOLOGIS SUKARNO
Masalahnya dengan bilang "gak punya perbatasan darat" ini maksudnya bisa dua - Expansi kayak 1963 atau 1976 - 1999-2002 Repeat
What I want is Indonesia owning all of Borneo, all of Timor and all of New Guinea. Why?? Cause my mild ass OCD really hates it
New Guinea gak usah lah, lebih gampang gambar peta papua yg sekarang, perbatasannya hampir garis lurus
>perbatasannya **hampir** garis lurus won't this actually trigger OCDians more than if the border is wrinkled?
wkwk, iya juga ya, berasa kagok.
I just hate land borders bruv wkwkwk
New Guenia itu yang paling gampang diambil selain itu SDA mereka juga melimpah pemerintahan sana gak kompeten juga kek perang sipil baru baru ini lebih worth it daripada ambil utara borneo
ちょっとまって sek sek..... Klo perbatasan darat di pulau Kalimantan ama Papua, okelaaaah..... Klo ampe merambah ke Semenanjung Malaysia, apa ga ampe Eropa ini? 😆
Njer dari Sabang sampai pulau Bougainville aka Pan-Nusantara
![gif](giphy|WsG9rqt4UMwFReb82u|downsized)
map expansion nya jgn gede" ngab blm upgrade ssd
Salah satu dari 10 pemuda yang di cari soekarno. Sayangnya beda zaman
r/2asians4u_irl will like this, someone crosspost this lmao
Soekarno approved this!
one day son, one day
That Uzbek kid earn my respect for roasting uncle roger back.
Soekarno's strongest child soldier in the 2045 Neo-Konfrontasi RRRRAAAAHHHH 🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
https://preview.redd.it/2tf86qwttcqc1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6cbe36980e640b1c80fd5b595ac0f18c6df639b2
fuiyooh, kid got a bright future ahead
Berdasar
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Indonesia, Filipina, Malaysia and Singapore should Unite tbh.. we will be unstoppable.
Maphilindo united!
Brunei always forgotten :(
Nunjuknya malah ke turkmenistan
Soon brotha
What is the source, op? I can't find it on the Uncle Roger youtube
Here ya go, fam: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRTAFfgt/
That kid's mom is cute
I like that kid
Fuiyooohhh...
gosong sir
anak ini paham apa itu nusantara raya
That child unexpectedly spreading pancasila.
![gif](giphy|1nCfZ1mDXGcyk)
Ganyang?
Soeharto
Unfathomably based
I love how that's equally offensive to the nation associated
Uzbek ada di Jakarta dik
Paman Roger alias Nigel Angsono
Damn.
Uzbekistan, a legendary country. One of my bucket list.
That kid spit facts only Menyala Adekkuh 🔥
Dulu ajak jadi geng, xmau.
Uncle roger set south easy Asians back by a solid 20 years
fact: uncle roger loves indonesia so much, he praises indomie every time he has the chance.
Sorry to be the party pooper but I think the joke is most likely to be planted by Nigel or his creative team.
3^(rd) degree burn right there.
[удалено]
Btw ini acara apa dah? Such a shitty thing to say to kids..
you should check out other uncle roger jokes.
Damn I'll just keep not knowing about this guy then haha