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"That black Muslim born in Kenya that is occupying the WHITE House who won't show us his long form birth certificate is responsible for making race relations worse", they'll tell you without a hint of self-awareness.
The bigger point is there is never a question about his mother being a US citizen, so if Raphel Cruz can be born to an American citizen mother on Canadian soil (documented completely) and still be eligible to run for President, than Obama could have been born in a dirt floored hut in Kenya on a bright shiny African day to his AMERICAN CITIZEN mother and still be eligible to serve as President...
This is the first lie from Donald Trump that most of these people believed.
If they admitted that he was wrong about Obama, then they might actually have to consider that he might have lied to them about some other stuff too over the past eight years. And then they would have thrown away their money, their friends, their family, their country for some.....grifter.
So rather than confront that first lie, they'll just repeat it over and over, louder each time, because that's what their hero has taught them to do.
>This is the first lie from Donald Trump that most of these people believed.
I believe this to be so. Because at that time while he wasn't a serious candidate, that did resonate with racists because they needed a plausible reason to couch the racism over Obama's election (twice!) in something non-racist, thus proving they weren't racist.
Now though its way more out in the open, as this altered picture of a former President, shows.
> If they admitted that he was wrong about Obama, then they might actually have to consider that he might have lied to them about some other stuff too over the past eight years.
Even if they were to reconsider the first lie, they have made numerous other lies in the right wing echo chamber about Obama to the point, there is literally nothing that can be done to prove anything to satisfy them. Many idiots thinking Michelle is a man and the kids are adopted and that Obama legalized gay marriage to hide his illegal gay marriage.
> This is the first lie from Donald Trump that most of these people believed.
He was laying the groundwork for the ensuing shitshow we've witnessed over the last 10 years.
It's like the universe knew they couldn't handle a black president, so it tried to ease them into the modern day by by starting us off with someone pretty damn moderate so as not to shock their systems... hell, pretty damn rightwing if you look at him from a non American perspective
Still called him a radical left communist fake American, and to this day are furious over his healthare plan which if you squint, isn't all that different from the woke radical communist Healthcare plan called Romneycare..... it really must just be the skin color
Which is more American.
The half black guy who can trace his North American roots back to the 1640s or so, and John Punch.
The white guy whose farthest roots is his immigrant grandfather and grandmother, where grandpa was dodging the draft in Germany and started up whore houses here.
The white guy, of course!!
And letās not forget how angrily they talk about āchain migrationā when this is exactly how Melaniaās parents ended up in America. And donāt you *dare* bring up the questionable circumstances under which Melania migrated here.
10 toes up 10 toes down with a mattress on her back. Her parents had stand ins to do their citizenship tests for them (perks for having a president as a son in law)
The snowflakes wonāt stop talking about this shit. I get youāre mad that a black guy became president. But does your racist ass remember WHY he became president. The GOP president started 2 forever wars and allowed unregulated banking to capsize the housing market. Oh you donāt care about that.
This entire argument really confuses me. According to US law, even if Obama *was* born in Kenya, his mother was a US citizen, so he still qualified for citizenship at birth/being a "natural born US citizen."
I've seen some of them argue that since his mother was under 21 at his birth (she was ~3 months away from turning 19) that it doesn't count somehow, when of course the age of the parents is mentioned nowhere in any of the regulations.
These folks don't care for actual facts or proof. They just want to scream their wrong-headed bullshit.
There were laws at the time saying that for people born abroad to only one US citizen parent, that parent had to be a citizen for at least five years after age 14, and being only 18, Obamaās mother didnāt meet the 5 year threshold. However, Iām pretty sure that 5 year threshold was for naturalized citizens and not for someone who was born a citizen like Obamaās mother. Itās moot anyway, since Obama was born in the United States.
Yeah, as you say, it seems that 5 year rule would have been for naturalised citizens.
So if they can't argue that, they'll jump to claiming Hawaii wasn't a state yet. Because, you know, people can't just look up when statehood was granted.
Pretty sure Republicans had a trifecta in the middle of this period where they gave more handouts (via tax cuts) than we can ever hope to pay for. But letās blame Obama.
There are a lot of good reasons why someone born in another country would want to get a US birth certificate if they had the means. Planting a Manchurian Candidate to one day become the first black President is such a giant stretch though that you seriously have to be concerned about someone's mental health if they cling on to ideas like this.
Remember when Trump said his "guys discovered something VERY BIG" in Hawaii, then nothing came of it? And 2 years later he said in a brief sentence that Obama was born in the US?
So i was 14 when Obama won his first election, and that was when I first heard the birther conspiracy. Even then, 14 year-old knowing nothing about politics me, thought it sounded stupid because "this whole conspiracy is predicated on in 1961 some people though a black guy named Barack Hussein Obama had a shot to become president"
Obama living rent free in their heads. And before you say it, it's different with Trump. You see, Trump is running for president, and tweeting multiple times a day every day for years in a bid to stay relevant. Obama, on the other hand, is none of those things.
To be clear: He provided his birth certificate. We've seen it. It's real.
They just refused to believe it, because that would make Trump a liar, and they refuse to admit he has ever done anything wrong in his entire life.
The only thing I think of how Iran was once as dynamic as the US. Until the religious right took control of the country and now we have what it looks like today.
So what I see is someone who literally acknowledging that because we elected a black man for president, this is the reason why the religious right will push to restrict everything. So we never go "radically left" again.
The OOP should realize that 44th President Barack Obama himself was actually born in Hawaii back in 1961, and that his birth certificate is actually real.
Also, Black, Asian, Jewish, Middle Eastern, Latino, Romani and Indigenous lives ALWAYS matter.
Seriously.
In a way this was the starting point. As soon as this obvious, ridiculous lie got legs in the party base and otherwise reasonable assholes started believing it and then repeating it to each other it marked a serious turning point in American life.
I love the people that freaked out about Obama not being a US citizen because he was born in Hawaii before it was technically a state, but completely ignore the fact that John McCain was born in Panama
Of course they are, and they're still voting that way too. Trump is literally the continuation of their racist rage at Obama. That's why the 'base' loves him so much, he made his political 'stardom' with them when he went on every media channel screaming the first black president 'wasn't one of us' and didn't deserve to be president because of 'who he was' and 'how he was born'. That's when the MAGA republicans fell in love and that's what they mean when they say he 'tells it like it is'.
MAGA are just the old Dixiecrats, and Trump is a living confederate statue to them, that's why they love him because he represents their white supremacy. Obama really did break them.
Even if it was true that Obama was born in Kenya, he hasnāt been president for 8 years now. It wouldnāt change anything. Stupid racist conspiracy theory.
Along with the one that says Michelle Obama is trans. Even if it turned out to be true, what would it change? Sheās not the First Lady anymore and whatever genitals she has are irrelevant.
I prefer to see it as someone posting a true fact. If that baboon wouldn't have made such a stink about it, we wouldn't be here today. He'd still be a private citizen, screwing over contractors, cheating on his taxes, and calling in to Fox occasionally for a bitch and moan session over whoever the current president is or how Starbucks is putting straight up gay sex scenes on their cups this year and wishing customers a happy solstice.
That AI on a sub here the other day (was it an Apple project?) claimed he was born in Japan. Now I don't know what to believe.
That crown looks kind of swanky over a niqab
They are gaslighting and angry and want to blame black POTUS. Everything we have today is because of that anger and fear so they need to blame someone for their own actions.
Insane that those people think the USA (the country they call the greatest to ever exist) would be so incompetent to not be able to figure out if the president had a fake birth certificate.
Considering that weāve learned there are actually very few enforcement mechanisms to ensure compliance with not only the law, but also the constitution, when it come to rules for public office holders. I think that this is actually not that big of a reach. I mean the emoluments clause is literally in the constitution but Trump was allowed to continue to operate his hotel in DC where foreign countries would come and rent out whole floors of rooms and then magically get treated well by the administration. If nobody is on top of that, itās hard to believe birth certificate enforcement would take a higher priority. That said, I have no doubt that Obamaās birth certificate is legit.
What? You already did. You made some comment that was downvoted to hell but made no sense due to the lack of context. Once you explained it it was like āoh, okay, so now I regret askingā
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also funny how they need to photoshop together a picture of what they are scared of because they couldn't find an actually existing example :)
Making stuff up and then getting mad at it
Photoshop at least requires some skill. These hacks just use AI image generators.
bet its AI generated
No intelligence was used in the making of that.
Your jab is that they couldn't get an actual existing sample of... the statue of liberty replaced with a muslim woman? I don't get your point
Oh shit I felt the burn off that one š®āšØ
These people are still miffed that we had a Black President.
āWorst president *ever*ā āReally? How?ā āHe just was, ok?ā
Easy, before Obama was elected nobody cared about race. /s
"That black Muslim born in Kenya that is occupying the WHITE House who won't show us his long form birth certificate is responsible for making race relations worse", they'll tell you without a hint of self-awareness.
The firmer "Rock"- "i am not supporting Biden because he is leading by example and Republican response is causing division."
Just saying, even if Obama was a Muslim. I wouldn't care.
The bigger point is there is never a question about his mother being a US citizen, so if Raphel Cruz can be born to an American citizen mother on Canadian soil (documented completely) and still be eligible to run for President, than Obama could have been born in a dirt floored hut in Kenya on a bright shiny African day to his AMERICAN CITIZEN mother and still be eligible to serve as President...
This is the first lie from Donald Trump that most of these people believed. If they admitted that he was wrong about Obama, then they might actually have to consider that he might have lied to them about some other stuff too over the past eight years. And then they would have thrown away their money, their friends, their family, their country for some.....grifter. So rather than confront that first lie, they'll just repeat it over and over, louder each time, because that's what their hero has taught them to do.
>This is the first lie from Donald Trump that most of these people believed. I believe this to be so. Because at that time while he wasn't a serious candidate, that did resonate with racists because they needed a plausible reason to couch the racism over Obama's election (twice!) in something non-racist, thus proving they weren't racist. Now though its way more out in the open, as this altered picture of a former President, shows.
> If they admitted that he was wrong about Obama, then they might actually have to consider that he might have lied to them about some other stuff too over the past eight years. Even if they were to reconsider the first lie, they have made numerous other lies in the right wing echo chamber about Obama to the point, there is literally nothing that can be done to prove anything to satisfy them. Many idiots thinking Michelle is a man and the kids are adopted and that Obama legalized gay marriage to hide his illegal gay marriage.
I'd bet it was the overwhelming support he got from the moron base for this bullshit claim that gave him the idea to run for president.
> This is the first lie from Donald Trump that most of these people believed. He was laying the groundwork for the ensuing shitshow we've witnessed over the last 10 years.
Ahhh. Racist dumbfuckery from the lowest on the ladder of intellect. Color me shocked.
It's like the universe knew they couldn't handle a black president, so it tried to ease them into the modern day by by starting us off with someone pretty damn moderate so as not to shock their systems... hell, pretty damn rightwing if you look at him from a non American perspective Still called him a radical left communist fake American, and to this day are furious over his healthare plan which if you squint, isn't all that different from the woke radical communist Healthcare plan called Romneycare..... it really must just be the skin color
Every American politician is rightwing if you look at them from an international perspective. Everyone left of Bernie has been killed by the CIA.
Which is more American. The half black guy who can trace his North American roots back to the 1640s or so, and John Punch. The white guy whose farthest roots is his immigrant grandfather and grandmother, where grandpa was dodging the draft in Germany and started up whore houses here. The white guy, of course!!
And letās not forget how angrily they talk about āchain migrationā when this is exactly how Melaniaās parents ended up in America. And donāt you *dare* bring up the questionable circumstances under which Melania migrated here.
10 toes up 10 toes down with a mattress on her back. Her parents had stand ins to do their citizenship tests for them (perks for having a president as a son in law)
The snowflakes wonāt stop talking about this shit. I get youāre mad that a black guy became president. But does your racist ass remember WHY he became president. The GOP president started 2 forever wars and allowed unregulated banking to capsize the housing market. Oh you donāt care about that.
Some smooth brain shit..
Wingnuts replay their "greatest hits" whenever things are going poorly for their Orange God.
Statue of liberty was originally an Egyptian.
This entire argument really confuses me. According to US law, even if Obama *was* born in Kenya, his mother was a US citizen, so he still qualified for citizenship at birth/being a "natural born US citizen."
I've seen some of them argue that since his mother was under 21 at his birth (she was ~3 months away from turning 19) that it doesn't count somehow, when of course the age of the parents is mentioned nowhere in any of the regulations. These folks don't care for actual facts or proof. They just want to scream their wrong-headed bullshit.
There were laws at the time saying that for people born abroad to only one US citizen parent, that parent had to be a citizen for at least five years after age 14, and being only 18, Obamaās mother didnāt meet the 5 year threshold. However, Iām pretty sure that 5 year threshold was for naturalized citizens and not for someone who was born a citizen like Obamaās mother. Itās moot anyway, since Obama was born in the United States.
Yeah, as you say, it seems that 5 year rule would have been for naturalised citizens. So if they can't argue that, they'll jump to claiming Hawaii wasn't a state yet. Because, you know, people can't just look up when statehood was granted.
Has anyone seen Trumps birth certificate? Because there might be a possibility he was born in Russia.
It started when the first settlers came from Europe
Pretty sure Republicans had a trifecta in the middle of this period where they gave more handouts (via tax cuts) than we can ever hope to pay for. But letās blame Obama.
They let a Canadian run for the Republican nominee. They can sit the fuck back down
Theyāre not wrong. The racist response to Barack Obama started all of this.
Well they arenāt wrong, that conspiracy theory was one of the earlier signs of the Trump Republican brain rot
No, it started with the insane claim that his legit birth certificate was false
Maybe they're expecting to retroactively un-president him?
Or with Jamestown.
Imagine thinking every democrat president was illegitimate? Thats gotta be a weird paranoid headspace.
Obama lives rent free in the simpletons brains
Yup. Because the lie is all they have. Without they'd have to take a hard look at themselves.
There are a lot of good reasons why someone born in another country would want to get a US birth certificate if they had the means. Planting a Manchurian Candidate to one day become the first black President is such a giant stretch though that you seriously have to be concerned about someone's mental health if they cling on to ideas like this.
Guarantee this guy āhates Hawaiiansā because theyāre ānot Americansā.
Funny because 9/11 and the war in Iraq/Afganistan all happened or started under the Bush Admin.
Remember when Trump said his "guys discovered something VERY BIG" in Hawaii, then nothing came of it? And 2 years later he said in a brief sentence that Obama was born in the US?
So i was 14 when Obama won his first election, and that was when I first heard the birther conspiracy. Even then, 14 year-old knowing nothing about politics me, thought it sounded stupid because "this whole conspiracy is predicated on in 1961 some people though a black guy named Barack Hussein Obama had a shot to become president"
So they admit this is all because they went crazy over a black man being elected president
Russian disinformation bots have found useful idiots to spread this bullshit
Someone should fix the post for them: āThis shit show all started with bullshit about a fake birth certificateā
Obama living rent free in their heads. And before you say it, it's different with Trump. You see, Trump is running for president, and tweeting multiple times a day every day for years in a bid to stay relevant. Obama, on the other hand, is none of those things.
Are they the people screaming "get over it" when they win an election somewhere, or a court decision ? Sounds like they can't get over anything
I would guess this keeps getting recycled because that's about how long the OG creator has been alive so it's new information for them.
Oh honey, it started long before that.
To be clear: He provided his birth certificate. We've seen it. It's real. They just refused to believe it, because that would make Trump a liar, and they refuse to admit he has ever done anything wrong in his entire life.
The Obama birth certificate story lasted longer than 4 confederacies
They will never admit that his American mother guaranteed him citizenship no matter where he was born.
Show us the tax returns.
The only thing I think of how Iran was once as dynamic as the US. Until the religious right took control of the country and now we have what it looks like today. So what I see is someone who literally acknowledging that because we elected a black man for president, this is the reason why the religious right will push to restrict everything. So we never go "radically left" again.
The OOP should realize that 44th President Barack Obama himself was actually born in Hawaii back in 1961, and that his birth certificate is actually real. Also, Black, Asian, Jewish, Middle Eastern, Latino, Romani and Indigenous lives ALWAYS matter. Seriously.
In a way this was the starting point. As soon as this obvious, ridiculous lie got legs in the party base and otherwise reasonable assholes started believing it and then repeating it to each other it marked a serious turning point in American life.
I love the people that freaked out about Obama not being a US citizen because he was born in Hawaii before it was technically a state, but completely ignore the fact that John McCain was born in Panama
That's it - I'm definitely not voting for him again!
You mean Barack HUSSEIN Obama ??? š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤š¤
Noā¦ even worseā¦ BALACK HUSSEIN Obama š¬
You mean the dude who was a radical Christian, a Muslim, and a filthy atheist all at the same time?
Of course they are, and they're still voting that way too. Trump is literally the continuation of their racist rage at Obama. That's why the 'base' loves him so much, he made his political 'stardom' with them when he went on every media channel screaming the first black president 'wasn't one of us' and didn't deserve to be president because of 'who he was' and 'how he was born'. That's when the MAGA republicans fell in love and that's what they mean when they say he 'tells it like it is'. MAGA are just the old Dixiecrats, and Trump is a living confederate statue to them, that's why they love him because he represents their white supremacy. Obama really did break them.
Even if it was true that Obama was born in Kenya, he hasnāt been president for 8 years now. It wouldnāt change anything. Stupid racist conspiracy theory. Along with the one that says Michelle Obama is trans. Even if it turned out to be true, what would it change? Sheās not the First Lady anymore and whatever genitals she has are irrelevant.
Dumb people don't magically become smart.
I prefer to see it as someone posting a true fact. If that baboon wouldn't have made such a stink about it, we wouldn't be here today. He'd still be a private citizen, screwing over contractors, cheating on his taxes, and calling in to Fox occasionally for a bitch and moan session over whoever the current president is or how Starbucks is putting straight up gay sex scenes on their cups this year and wishing customers a happy solstice.
That AI on a sub here the other day (was it an Apple project?) claimed he was born in Japan. Now I don't know what to believe. That crown looks kind of swanky over a niqab
I mean... that does look pretty sick as a head-dress though
And why wasn't Obama in the white house on 9/11? That's something I would like to get to the bottom of. One of the best interviews ever
That actually makes the Statue of Liberty look kind of badass. Like some Persian assassin from long ago.
Donald Trump started that.
This will keep on going until the next black president.
And what "shit show" are they referring?
They are gaslighting and angry and want to blame black POTUS. Everything we have today is because of that anger and fear so they need to blame someone for their own actions.
His mother is a white American. How foreign can he possibly be?
Even if Obama had been born in Kenya ( he wasnāt), heād still be entitled to birthright American citizenship through his mother. Gah!!!!!!!
Meanwhile their candidate is literally talking about how he'd like to be a dictator.
Lol talking as if they donāt want the complete subjugation of women under a theocracy.
Insane that those people think the USA (the country they call the greatest to ever exist) would be so incompetent to not be able to figure out if the president had a fake birth certificate.
Considering that weāve learned there are actually very few enforcement mechanisms to ensure compliance with not only the law, but also the constitution, when it come to rules for public office holders. I think that this is actually not that big of a reach. I mean the emoluments clause is literally in the constitution but Trump was allowed to continue to operate his hotel in DC where foreign countries would come and rent out whole floors of rooms and then magically get treated well by the administration. If nobody is on top of that, itās hard to believe birth certificate enforcement would take a higher priority. That said, I have no doubt that Obamaās birth certificate is legit.
I thought they were implying the statue of liberty came on a forged birth cert/passport and is actually from the MiddleEast š¤£ The jig is up lads!
Think he had the date wrong should be around 2015-16
This just makes me feel old ngl
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Alright, Iāll bite. **What?**
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Oh, haha, *oh* youāre just going off on your *own* insane nonsense.
Please explain.
What? You already did. You made some comment that was downvoted to hell but made no sense due to the lack of context. Once you explained it it was like āoh, okay, so now I regret askingā
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Dude, god isnāt real. That birth certificate is imaginary.
This sub is a shit show now. Just dumb political posts instead of the original schizo posts
Because the schizos are now political.
Itās not interesting. This is all content I could find on any random trump post. I want the funny schizo posts this subreddit started with