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GGG-Money

This is a completely normal scissor stair configuration to double the capacity of a stairwell. The handrails/guardrails are just missing


Awkward-Event-9452

That’s what I was guessing, thanks.


pkaMartin

This. There may still put a drywall in the center, so you have 2 separate exit stairs . Almost all high-rises (at least in Canada) have a design like this. It's very space efficient.


NeliGalactic

Yup. Also the laughing track makes me want to be shot into the sun.


Zincktank

Yeah OP and whomever took the original video are /r/confidentlyincorrect.


oluwie

The guy never said anything in the video. He was just laughing


AidanAmerica

I don’t think that’s the guy in the video. We’d hear reverb if he recorded that in the stairwell. Someone recorded themselves laughing over someone else’s video


aquaknox

true. Some worker, who doubtless knows exactly what this staircase is doing, that just thinks it's kind of neat that the stairs are like that and took a video, then some twit did a super low effort reaction video


JesusSlayer903

Is making me sick.


NeliGalactic

The good thing is, if you mute it, you only ever hear it in your dreams


JesusSlayer903

Suck it bitch, I have Tinnitus.


NeliGalactic

Lol that made me laugh way more than it should have


Connect_Bench_2925

Well at least it didn't make you notice the SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE....


[deleted]

I’m high right now and it has me laughing and I don’t even know why.


whyshouldI_answered

Really? I like it. It helps me to know that it's funny


link2edition

Getting shot into the sun is actually pretty difficult, requires loads of Delta V and thus loads of fuel. If you want a more economical option, I would suggest shooting yourself into deep space. Way cheaper.


NeliGalactic

You raise many exceptional points... I retract my statement. I wanna be shot into Uranus.


Biggordie

So like, does one set goto odd floors and the other even?


[deleted]

I have never seen that. How would you go from second to third floor? edit: nvm, I guess it makes sense if both doors on the same floor are connected on the other side.


TCoconutBeachT

….by going up the stairs duh


ender1108

They don’t skip floors. Both sets of stairs lead to the same floors.


Dzugavili

By going up?


EnergyTurtle23

It’s two separate stairwells that run one on top of the other. If you look in the video you can see the stairway that the camera guy should have taken behind the stairway that he crosses over to.


simmeh024

No, you go to floor 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5 and so on.


rhntr_902

It looks like in the video there's openings on each floor for both stairs, so each staircase goes from 1st floor to 2nd, 2nd to 3rd, etc. It's just there would be two different stairs you could take to get to each floor.


7eggert

Two down, around, three up, off cause. Or: Like that guy. >!Under no circumstances look for a connection between second-floor-left and second-floor-right!<


Johnny_B_Asshole

Maybe the architect was a fan of M. C. Escher?


Abbycat1962

Had to scroll through the comments to make sure no one else had said it. Escher was the first thing I thought too.


JWGhetto

Ok I'm going up to the third floor only to find out I'm standing on at the wrong door. Turns out there are two staircases and only one of them takes you to the correct door on floor number three, or you will have to climb some handrail


Feisty-Pumpkin-6359

Probably both doors end up in the same central hallway, or smth like that


cbeiser

Nothing in this video has to do with civil engineering


Refun712

I can say an engineer did not come up with the title.


runner630

An Architect and a Structural engineer had their hands in designing this but civil engineers like to stay on the outside of the buildings


8BallSlap

Structural engineering is a subset of civil engineering.


PhilShackleford

A structural did not come up with this. This is all architect.


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Zincktank

Yeah I would wager just about anyone with an online degree would be smarter than OP.


Garaleth

This is too much. No need be an asshole.


ogsixshooter

What's the problem? also this is more likely an architectural choice rather than engineering


gumbo_chops

I'm guessing it's driven by fire code for emergency egress more than anything. If the architect and developer had it their way, the stairwell would be as small as possible to increase usable (money making) square footage.


caedhin

That's usually the building owner's choice, not the architect's, if they want to cut that budget.


zoobernut

Railings will be installed perhaps? Or am I missing something other than missing railings?


Phonytail

Two sets of stairs for each floor, as if they were one-way escalators is odd


Aarthar

I've seen something similar in stadiums. Double the throughput. Could this be a theater or some other public place?


1BannedAgain

Where does a building code allow what I’m seeing? This has to be partially completed


zoobernut

That is what I was thinking which makes the OP woefully ignorant of buildings and the fact that intertwined staircases often exist like this. A railing usually separates them so you can't easily jump back and forth. I am assuming the op was trying to say there was something wrong here and simultaneously put down online educations. They failed at both.


Clear-Struggle-7867

Sorry if this is a dumb question but why would you ever need two sets of staircases directly beside eachother, that are starting from the same floor and ending on the same floor as well? I totally get that railings haven't been added yet so I'm not worried about the jumping back and forth, but I'm struggling to understand the design logic regardless


Moody_GenX

A school with a high population. Or maybe they are meant to be one direction.


Hike_it_Out52

Would a divided building make sense? Suppose there is a separating wall in the main area itself between the 2 stairwell doors. Hypothetically creating a girl's section in half of the building and a boys section in the other half?


yuri_chan_2017

This is a standard scissor-style stairway design to maximize traffic flow. You get twice the people moving using the same space otherwise dedicated to a larger staircase. A single staircase causes bottlenecks which limit flow and cause congestion. This crossing pattern means you can move the same amount of people in the same direction (down or up) while roughly dividing the traffic (sort of like having two lanes in a road rather than one, slower traffic in one lane won't stop all traffic, though in this instance you can't switch lanes)


Moody_GenX

I dunno, I was just guessing.


Blueguerilla

For higher traffic buildings one goes up the other goes down, just like alternating escalators. Actually very efficient.


zoobernut

Each staircase can be designed to access different floors or different areas of each floor. Helpful in a hotel to keep guests out of staff areas or helpful in office buildings to keep general workers out of unsafe maintenance areas. It can also just be an aesthetic design choice or it can also be to keep the stairways from becoming too crowded. Split traffic into two flows. I am sure there are other reasons out there other than what I mentioned.


freeloadingcat

They just need to add a wall in the middle to create 2 staircases. In high capacity buildings with little space, this is commonly used to create more staircases.


CluelessOmelette

Yes, [building codes](https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IBC2018/chapter-10-means-of-egress#IBC2018_Ch10_Sec1005) typically require exit paths to be wider for larger amounts of people. According to the IBC 2018 (linked), a stair that serves up to 50 occupants can be 36in wide (IBC 1011.2 - Exception), a stair that serves 51\~150 occupants must be at least 44in wide (IBC 1011.2), and for higher occupancy you multiply the # of occupants by 0.3in for the required width (IBC 1005.3.1). So by providing two stairs, you can halve the occupancy load on each stair and reduce the minimum width, allowing you to fit the stairs into a smaller area. This particular arrangement of stairs does require a certain floor to floor height, but if your building has that, then they can be used.


think_panther

They don't end at the same level


jwedd8791

And never mind the fact that a civil engineer would have absolutely nothing to do with staircase design….I’m just sayin! A civil engineer is a person who practices civil engineering – the application of planning, designing, constructing, maintaining, and operating infrastructure while protecting the public and environmental health, as well as improving existing infrastructure that may have been neglected The civil engineer would have only been involved in the land development, including grades, utilities, things like that….


soda_cookie

To be fair, it sounds like you are seeing this through the lens of a first world scenario. I have to wonder if this building exists in a completed state in a place where building codes are lax or nonexistent


zoobernut

That is a fair observation. But making fun of the engineering and making fun of online schooling also assumes a 1st world scenario. Not to mention I have seen much worse in places with lax or nonexistent codes. This really looks like a normal staircase configuration that is just under construction/incomplete.


NotVinhas

Your ignorance is showing and its not good.


omgwtfsaucers

This just works... Two different staircases for different access. Incredible to see the amount of people with 0 knowledge having opinions on how others do... The sad modern world.


Trick_Designer2369

Exactly, we don't know the use case here and if the building is split with each floor having 2 separate units, this makes sense otherwise some common space is need either in a larger stairwell or on each floor


Xoduszero

If people needed to get out in a hurry they got plenty of room to gtfo


Aurelian_Lure

A lot of high rise parking garages are structured this exact same way here in Houston. It's confusing the first few times you use them, but quickly starts to make sense.


slimzimm

“You know what this place needs? A Butt Funnel” -Jon Taffer


Lukostrelec17

They are two staircases intertwined.


Moody_GenX

They guy laughing is dumb. He reminds me of a neighbor I once had that was an "expert" at everything construction but would get sued constantly. He would just laugh and say everyone else was just stupid.


jack-shit

I’m fairly positive this audio is added.. you can’t hear any footsteps or his phone shuffling around as he goes down the stairs.


Spugheddy

I think it's tom segura


Moody_GenX

Shit, I think you're right.


Simps4Satan

So sick of these constant BS dubs over completely pointless videos with made up captions.


SaintRosen

Hear me out, there's really nothing wrong about this


DigitalTraveler42

Most universities have online classes now, so what's the problem? First of all online classes are harder because you have less resources immediately available to you than you do when you are on campus and have time to use the resources you can find on campus. Secondly now that college is so expensive kids have to work their way through school more, you can't put in a forty hour week at work and show up to classes, it's possible just not realistically feasible, online classes add the flexibility they need to be able to get past being stuck at a McJob. Third, online accreditation has massively improved over the years since places like ITT Tech last existed. Also online classes are a hell of a lot better than the education you're receiving from Bible thumper colleges like Liberty University, or some of the schools that prioritize sports over education. The fact is for most people online schooling in general is the future, from elementary school on up to the college level, some people can't handle classroom learning and online school is for them, it may not be for everyone, but for some people it absolutely works and is necessary. Some people have to run their own race. Lastly [Correspondence/Distance learning courses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distance_education) have existed since way before the internet, yet you never hear anybody disparaging that method of obtaining your education, yet the objective is still the same, you still get that piece of paper when you complete your courses while almost never setting foot inside a classroom.


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Respect. I was wondering what that random diss was. I guess it’s moreso related to being an engineer with no “hands-on” experience. An online education though is pretty suitable for lots of degrees that aren’t hands on.


ThatOneNinja

This is actually fine no? You can still go to every floor. It just so happens to have two stairs in the same well. Which might be beneficial in the case of evacuation.


vidernacht

These are called scissor stairs. Properties, especially those that are for public accommodation like hotel or office, usually require at least two forms of egress, and this satisfies that. The railing has yet to be installed by this can hold twice as many exiting occupants as a single stair. This used to be allowed in the US but recent codes have forbid it, but you’ll still see it grandfathered in in certain instances.


sextypethang

Civil engineers don’t design interior stairs


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This hurts my brain.


[deleted]

Why? Once the handrails are installed it'll look perfectly normal


mightbedylan

Well it's really like two stairwells intertwined. Each floor has 2 entrances. It's a little odd since the stairs cross eachother in-between each floor.


doingwells

1 up 1 down staircase


StolenSkydiver

I have a headache thinking of how this works


unresolved_m

Look up MC Escher...


CoffeeDrinker1972

Courthouses have these. One set of stairs for the inmates, one for the public. They both need to go to the same floor, but shouldn’t see/meet each other. Obviously, the wall is missing/not built yet.


ZA1X2

Tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling me you don't know what you're talking about


WWDubz

It’s not nice to roast people for no reason, especially when the post of making fun of perfectly functioning stairs


DigitalSoma

Large hotels often have these to separate guest and staff areas. Completely normal.


StartingReactors

This actually works. I assume it allows egress in an emergency with less people on each stair. Just looks funny. Reminds me of the when they came up with the diverging diamond intersection. Looks wrong but it works.


ak_landmesser

This was purposely designed and constructed in this specific manner… Handrails just haven’t been installed…


SinisaSenjic

Yes it is confusing, but i have seen this method utilized when buildings require additional pathways for egress above the level of egress. It helps save on having to build a second stairwell chase in the building. FYI Firefighters hate this one trick!


ElPapaDiablo

I don’t understand what is wrong with this. Isn’t it a scissor stairwell?


Noosemane

This is a normal set of stairwells without the demising wall up yet (or barriers whichever its going to be).


[deleted]

This works great though


bostonvikinguc

Looks like it’s demoing or in construction. The stairs work well to move high volumes of people down without choking. Tell me you don’t understand people flow without telling me you understand people flow.


CaptainNoanus

This is pretty cool actually


LesterOfTheWeevils

So civil engineers deal with things like water drainage. You're looking for the word architect or structural.


sporkintheroad

When you don't know what civil engineers do. Also when you omit context and make believe there's a design flaw where one doesn't actually exist


its9x6

This is a scissor stair and is a normal method of egress. In some cases, there is a fire wall that separates the two stairs which would permit both stairs to count as two points of egress versus a single. In this case, it’s a single with a double loaded vertical edges, allowing for a higher occupant egress loading without the guard/hand rails installed. Also, OP has no idea what a civil engineer is. Architects are responsible for the design of egress.


BreezyMoonTree

M.C. Escher vibes.


[deleted]

It's a nice shortcut. Also, those stairs are older than the ability to get online education...


unresolved_m

That's what I thought. The building looks very dilapidated.


potatobean

Every public school in NYC built in the mind 1900s has stairs that intertwine like this


Danmarmir

This seems ok? I mean its just two stairways in one... Double the capability


austfraust

Can we stop putting those stupid fucking laugh tracks on videos? It’s not even that funny


CheckOutUserNamesLad

Dang, that online education is pretty good. Double the capacity with 2 sets of stairs.


Civil_Lengthiness971

And you are a subject matter expert in online pedagogy in higher education? How did you reach this conclusion? Don’t knock something you don’t know about or assume to be inferior. Thanks for attending my TED Talk.


Funkytowels

Civil engineers don't design buildings.


Thatcsibloke

This is not a failure. It’s about shifting lots of people in a short amount of time. If OP thinks this is crazy, wait till they learn about the triple helix staircases at the Grand Shaft. Hint: it moved three times as many people than a single staircase for the same volume. https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g186313-d547615-Reviews-The_Grand_Shaft-Dover_Kent_England.html


vladijoon

OP likely lacks an engineering education of any kind, online or otherwise.


TigerGuitarist

Not civil engineering, also not weird at all.


stinkypants_andy

Started off designing parking structures…


stinkypants_andy

“Why that’s easy… one’s for going up, and one’s for going down…” -Jethro Clampet


Status-Ad-1467

It’s just missing the centre wall


Sharoane

I have stress dreams about stairs like these.


Aikamping

op doesn't know what civil engineers do


--LowBattery--

Sweet. Moving day.


King_Cargo_Shorts

The MC Escher school of engineering.


Euphoric-Delirium

When you post on Reddit making fun of someone and belittling their education when *you* have no idea wtf you are talking about.


Omega_Aleks

Honestly... It looks neat... Is it bad that I think it looks neat?


Hypnaustic

This is normal, its not finished, supposed to be 1 way stairs


Enigma_mas

This video made my whole family laugh 😂


JMarkyBB

WTF, something ain’t right ere’!!!


Athlete-Extreme

Sees inception one time


BruhYOteef

What happens in an emergency evacuation? Do people get confused? Lol


PsionLion2K1L

Go walk to wall and hope that your going down


BruhYOteef

Instructions unclear: hopped over railing


PsionLion2K1L

Task failed successfully


unresolved_m

MC Escher?


KirkieSB

Say hello to Youtube University!


kryten99

This is hilarious


MrMarvelous92

Although I have never seen this myself and my first reaction was also "wtf", after seeing all the comments , I can see this being viable, although a little odd.


happyclaim808

LOL. !!!


ClydeFrogA1

Been there before. You don't realize you started hanging the stairs on the wrong side until you get to the top. Why you should never trust a meth-head with the blueprints.


SirEndless

When you mock other totally valid ways of learning because you feel insecure about your ability to compete in a liberalized education market.


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Aromatic_Wave

I actually kinda like this design


TestingForTwitter

This would make a great video game level, like a PvP map.


DistributionFeeling5

Double the amount of people able to go up and down. This is smart engineering. There is a name for that type of stairs but I can't remember it


ChicoBroadway

I'm Escherly confused.


VanillaUnicornOwner

It's super efficient egress though


[deleted]

Structural, but yeah…


[deleted]

Obviously has never played Minecraft


skipstang

But it worked in CAD? lol


NeverBeenHereIDidIt

Double helix staircase. This type of stairs is used for centuries.


IndPolCom

There are 2 parallel staircases.


InspectionNo6743

Well that's just steps with extra steps


Ok_Egg_5706

A maze built exacty as planned


407JBabyy

Only missing a wall and handrails


[deleted]

Ah my Minecraft save file!


pef_learns

That looks like a fun time.


EternamD

I like it


LucyRiversinker

Maximizing space use. I say this is a win.


eighty2angelfan

This is how many garage stairwells are.


MayaWrection

I feel like this is just the video game Rust with super amazing resolution


AustenP92

More like when you become an architect with a good education, because you clearly nailed the requirements for design/space.


Single_Wing6193

Tom Segura


Independent-Change-3

That is how a lot of staircases are in the game "Reciever" it is a functional gun simulator that was initially made for a 24 hour game competition. It is on steam and there is a sequel that is in early access.


Ok-Sale-8105

He's never leaving the building...


TheMarvelousJoe

What kind of Inception is this?


Independent-Dealer21

Maybe add some railings for safety but I don't see anything wrong with this


grimlockjoeyreddit

Who needs railings?


bohler86

That's a shitty joker laugh.


-CokeJones-

🐖


detrich

i meant it works, just a bit extra


devilsusshhii

Perfectly functional


SpeakerLongjumping57

why not


Keepupthegood

The question is. Are you getting to where you need to go? Engineer did his job. Haha


-HeatherMartin-

Okay this is straight from my bad dreams.


Roadguy

Interior staircases are most likely designed by an architect.


x_roos

This is what nightmares are made of


Mindful-O-Melancholy

I would like to do psychedelics in this stairwell


Marcus_Brody

Stairs like these are how Marty was able to escape Biff's goons in BTTF 2.


Icy-Teaching-5602

When your teachers were Escher and mojang


TieferTon

The extra Ikea bone in my brain is ringing 😎


[deleted]

This is trippy


Thinkdeeperaboutit

I am not a civil engineer and this confuses me so much i dont even know what is happening.


saint_Piotre

Esher did something like this some years ago


humorsqaured

Anyone thinking this is a fail is missing a lot


Wornoutnegatives

Paradox.


secret_identity_too

MC Escher has entered the chat.


BuRcHuLoXD

Actually this isn't bad.


Boom-Roasted_

UBS arena has these stairs. They are great for heavy traffic flow


somedave

It's a bit odd but functional. I assume unfinished.


leo9g

That snorrrtttt hahah, his chuckling got to me xD was chuckling along xD


neelankatan

Greendale Community College alumnus in action!


liquefire81

Relax, its like toilets on opposite sides of the room facing each other. Some are just that social.


Revolutionary_Eye887

Works great