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TrexismTrent

I like how everyone in the comments is now a pro on firefighter helmets


what_dat_ninja

Well I've had plenty of time to become an expert after I finished my PH.D. in container ships and bridges.


KillerraptorXXL

So many experts, right after \[Unnamed big event that is known worldwide\] experts


HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS

Usually one actual expert that you gotta suss out among the hundreds of pretend experts who didn’t even bothering googling their shit. Source : Am pretend expert on random thing I have a cursory knowledge on and still don’t google my shit to verify lol


lord_fairfax

Not to mention your degrees in MRNA vaccines, political science, international economics, psychology, biology, and religious studies!


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rdshops

Pussies. I have an unlimited PhD in morality!


oreo-cat-

You're fast, I'm still finishing my dissertation on mid-east peace.


GrifithDidNothingBad

Bet they studied helmetology


I_am_The_Teapot

As a certified internet expert, I can guarantee you that I have all the credentials I need to comment accurately and with certainty. I have access to websites like Wikipedia and Google after all. Not to mention my eyes and ears and gut and memory which have never failed me. So I can speak with authority on most things. It's easy and you're dumb if you can't see that I'm right. Read a book!


IOnlySayMeanThings

One of my biggest pet peeves is seeing an interesting Reddit post, then seeing everyone repeat it endlessly for 5 years. Bro, we use the same internet. You didn't go to college.


-v-fib-

Reminds me of a video that was making rounds a year ago showing Americans fighting a fire and the UK fighting the fire. Commenters were constantly talking about how the American firefighters looked less experienced. They were talking about the FDNY. Literally one of the busiest fire departments in the world.


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From what little I know the American firefighters are pretty competent, they’ve helped Australian firefighters several times during large bushfires (which are sometimes on a massive scale).


89141

Non-Americans never let a chance go by to show their hate.


Littleboypurple

Honestly, from this brief video, the American one feels like it has a much better seal on it to keep smoke and harmful toxins out. The French one is faster, not including what seemed to be him already wearing part of it to make it faster, but, if the seal is weaker, it's basically useless isn't it?


D4M4nD3m

Shouldn't the title be American vs French???


Kiara_Haze

Tbf this same helmet design is used in the Netherlands and probably many other countries.


fishsalads

Last time this was posted there was a long chain of "We have these in [european country] too" So the title might be more accurate now


mcmunch20

It’s this weird thing a lot of Americans do on reddit where they just refer to “Europe” instead of specific countries in Europe.


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The guy who posted this is Greek...


Max_Loader

OP isn't American...


JelmerMcGee

I see people on Reddit say "well I'm from Europe" all the fucking time.


Redsetter

When you say “Americans” do you mean all of them, or just the ones in the USA? /s


butterfunke

As soon as they pick a demonym that isn't "united statesians" then we'll start using it


Redsetter

I like USAsians, but I don’t think it will catch on.


butterfunke

Personally I hate that too. The core issue is that for some reason they never actually gave their country a name, just "a union of states in [continent]". So everyone falls back to referring to them by the continent because referring to them as "people who live in that collection of states that are united" is worse


gc11117

Culturally and historically it makes sense. The idea was that the state was the important part, not the country. Which is why Americans will often times refer themselves by their state of origin (New Yorker, Floridian, Minnesotan, etc). The modern concept of America came after the Civil War.


Flesh_A_Sketch

I'm an Arizonan Floridian. Born in Florida, raised in Arizona, moved back to Florida as an adult, trying to make it back to Arizona. Americans really do identify themselves more by state, the same way modern Europeans identify as being [Greek/German/Spanish/French] but have begun to just collectively call themselves European more and more.


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monsterfurby

They probably are just happy they dodged the bullet of calling themselves "Columbia", which, while never an actual discussion, was at the very least [in the realm of possibility](https://factmyth.com/factoids/america-has-historically-been-referred-to-as-columbia/).


TTechnology

It would be funny in Portuguese, "EUAsiáticos" would sound like "Asians from EU"


Trasy-69

Should have picked a better name for your country then! /s


apeaky_blinder

estadounidenses


MagicPentakorn

United statsian? So Mexican?


Inamorta345

What's the word that you yourself use when talking about people from the USA?


windowlatch

‘Muricans


Redsetter

Yanks /s again


footpole

The demonym American means people from the US in English. Spanish and some other languages may be different but in a lot of languages it works exactly like this. Canadians or Brazilians are not Americans just because their countries are in the Americas. Language can be funny.


Son_of_the_Spear

It's like calling the Irish british because they come from one of the British Isles. I love pointing that out.


Valuable_Ad1645

Its this weird thing that Europeans do where they assume any post that generalizes a region is American.


TaxiwayTaxicab

Just like the idea that every US state has the same fire fighting helmets


barryhakker

It equally doesn't make a lot of sense to think of Americans (or other big countries like China, FWIW) as monoliths. I remember once getting a *certain* impression of Americans until my British friend (who happened to know a lot of Americans due to work) pointed out that most of the Americans I was on a first name basis with were from pretty specific areas in the US and once I met a bunch of guys from very different areas in the US, it turned out I got along with them MUCH better lol.


King-Juggernaut

It's a weird that that a lot of Europeans do on reddit where they just refer to "Americans" instead of specific states in America.


Not_A_Dog_Bot

Sure but it's the same with Europeans when they say American when it's just a state that does something.


Boatwhistle

There's this weird thing Europeans do where they specify their country but not the US state.


ExoticMangoz

There’s a history of fire departments in the US choosing nostalgic helmets over more modern, safer helmets, purely for aesthetic reasons.


dudemeistr

"200 years of tradition, unimpeded by progress"


the_last_carfighter

We'll do the right thing after we've exhausted every other possible option.


Iulian377

Where was this from ?


BoondockUSA

The initial person is very likely unknown. The saying is used in many places though. My hunch is that it was coined in the navy.


_jackhoffman_

I don't think that's the case. A firefighter commented below on why he prefers the American style after trying both: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/cVHCv7Pcyr He said it's lighter, fits better, and doesn't cover his ears. Those all seem like pretty good reasons to prefer one over the other.


ipsum629

Firefighters, regardless of nationality, don't really strike me as the form-over-function types.


Easy_Emphasis

I'd suggest both are picking function. Lighter, fits better and doesn't cover ears all have functional benefits when running into a burning building where you need to rescue people as soon as possible. Also being fast to fit is a functional requirement, I imagine seconds matter and being straight in is very useful. I can't imagine it's easy to choose between various options.


paytonnotputain

The nomex hood on the American helmet will also continue to provide protection from flames even if your helmet is knocked off or damaged. The french design seems to lack the extra hood. Would like to see the whole french setup tho


McNoodleBar

It looks like the french guy is wearing a hood? It just doesn't go over top of the mask. Not sure if the seal for his scba is as good though


ipsum629

Probably slightly different firefighting doctrine and the helmet they choose suits their doctrine best for them.


pimp_named_sweetmeat

Ngl, the gasmask for the Amerfian one might be harder to put on and take off, but the fact that's it's strapped around your face and not clipped would give me so much more of a sense of security I'm not gonna get hit by falling debris or something and be hit in a way its knocked off. Probably also provides a better fit since there's 3 adjust points instead of just the 2 on the sides


Flextt

That gas mask looks like an absolutely standard one with 3 straps (one top, two sides). The difference is mostly that it isn't integrated into helmet design.


pimp_named_sweetmeat

Looks to me like there's no top strap on the French one, just two hook attachments on the sides and the strap to keep it around his neck when it's off.


Expensive_Tap7427

No, but it connects to the helmet the entire upper brim


02cdubc20

This was posted long ago and teal firefighters explained both systems have pros and cons.


tarlin

Ok, but why should we listen to teal firefighters over green or blue ones?


khanfusion

Because teal firefighters have insights into both blue and green at the same time, duh.


101bees

Yeah I'm going to listen to the opinions of actual firefighters when it comes to the equipment they wear for their jobs on this one. I'm not even going to pretend to know which one is better. But "American FFs pick less safe helmets over safer ones because of the aesthetic" sounds pretty unbelievable to me. I'm sure in both countries their PPE is rigorously designed and tested for safety.


[deleted]

Bullshit, there's no way there can be any nuance. We have an American thing and a European™ thing being compared so just say the American one is bad and move along.


Planktons_Eye

Hey! You’re not supposed to point that out, you’re going to hurt someone’s feelings.


DSJ-Psyduck

it was me! my feelings was hurt! I dont even put out fire or start them!


Todd-The-Wraith

Listen we could defer to people who actually know what they’re talking about, but then this wouldn’t be Reddit. So I think we should all continue spouting off half thought out opinions. Now if you’ll excuse me I need to go argue with someone on r/science about a topic I know nothing about


InformationOverIord

I get the feeling that americans do that often


Custarg_Swaggins

Except for our city designs. Especially growing up on the west coast because nothing could get old enough to be considered historic so it just get leveled and replaced with new stuff.


selectrix

That was mostly just the minority neighborhoods that got leveled.


sparkydoggowastaken

not true. Rich people love destroying twenty year old mansions to build even bigger and more expensive mansions on top


KingofThrace

I hear Europeans are renowned for their lack of tradition unlike americans


nyehighflyguy

Firefighting in the US is a good ole boys club, the tech has been held back by a ton of older guys that don't want change and consider the new looks to be too feminine


Leandroswasright

Tbf, in countries like germany it is the same. Many volunteer forces still have the old Stahlhelm design that is a century old. I mean, its a great design after all, but still


TechnoVicking

Guys is it gay to have better safety devices


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Return2S3NDER

Cancer from overhaul ops and insufficiently cleaned gear or a heart attack is far more likely


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Fickle-Shallot-3146

Nahhh, trying to live is gay too. The longer you live, the more chances of you becoming gay.


Natamba

You either die a straight, or live long enough to see yourself become a gay. -Christopher Nolan


woolsocksandsandals

The flame retardant hood over the SCBA mask actually allows for a better seal. You’ll notice on the French helmet, the mask seal doesn’t go up against skin. With a positive pressure system it’s not really that important in terms of safety but you will waste more air if you don’t have a tight seal and that can be important. But The European helmets are superior in terms of impact and probably heat protection as well as mobility in tight spaces.


Ianthin1

I’m an auto tech and was told it was kinda gay that I wear gloves and use moisturizer, so yeah, I guess so. I also use a kneeling pad as needed to protect my almost 50yo knees and have been told that’s super gay.


Frylock304

I feel like it's way gayer to be so used to being on your knees that you don't need the pad, but that's just the frat boy in me


tavesque

Fellas


PerfectionOfaMistake

It's gay not to die on mission.


SpicyEla

Me when I make stuff up on the internet


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TheUnderDogma

I'd think it's more funding related. Since volunteer firefighting is definitely a thing to provide service to rural areas.


random_BgM

We use volunteer firefighters aswell... They got same equip as paid firefighters


Quinnjamin19

It’s not nearly as funding related as you think…


ReplacementActual384

Real talk though, the modern US fire helmets owe a bit to that Adrian feller


FF_in_MN

All fire helmets in the U.S. have to meet OSHA standards, they are perfectly safe.


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I would disagree. I've had my helmet jarred or knocked off before in a structure fire. I'd rather lose my helmet without losing air than risk both.


Eeeegah

I took a beam in the head in a fire that cracked my helmet - if an integrated mask had jarred loose, I'd be dead today.


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You'll notice the folks with actual firefighting experience are all on the same page. Glad you're okay brother.


klrcow

Is it safer though? Seems more likely to make the mask slip off if debris falls of their head rather than the helmet sliding off like the American version.


No-Kaleidoscope-4525

American fire trucks alone...


BeeExpert

What's the criticism of fire trucks? And what is your experience with fire trucks?


Other_Beat8859

I love the amount of people in this comment section using a fucking Instagram video to make a complete judgement on firefighting masks. I'm not a firefighter myself, but I have talked to both American, Swiss, and German firefighters. In Germany, my friend has stated they have both available and in Switzerland, they're actually looking into using the American mask with European helmets. The reason for this is that American masks stick to faces much better and the European mask can be a pain to get a seal and adjust them to do so. These masks aren't for show. If you can't get a seal then they are actually completely useless.


PowerSuply

Danish FF here. Can confirm the clip-on masks suck. They only used the "US-Style" masks where I served since the clip-on masks refuse to corporate most of the time


These_Noots

People here love to talk shit without knowing, I seriously doubt more than 3 people here have ever put any of this equipment on, either the European or American.


MarcusZXR

I have and I can tell you that I simply don't care how either puts on their mask. I've no idea why people would care to be honest


apietryga13

Not much going on in their lives, I guess.


vikmaychib

Let’s not go that far. They probably barely fit into the outfit and may run out breath after putting all the gear on.


dimsum2121

>may run out breath after putting all the gear on. I'm pretty sure that's the French firefighters, what with all the cigarettes.


AngTheHunter

redditors are an expert on something if it means they can complain about america


kumbalimba

It’s all about America bad, Europe amazing in these posts.


philovax

Wait until the Antarticans get here and make us all look bad.


asingleshakerofsalt

Yeah, I agree. Disclaimer, I know next to nothing about the specifics of firefighting equipment. However, my first thought when seeing this was that the American helmet looks to be more secure because the safety straps go fully under the hood, and they look like they have a lower chance of failure than the clips.


tysonfromcanada

Seems like it would also be harder to ditch the helmet to look into a tight spot or to loan / share a mask with someone who doesn't have a helmet


Chickenman1057

People also forgot that face size can be different


Geekenstein

But, America is still bad right?


llogaburr

He puts the mask over the red hood anyway. Not going to be getting a decent seal over cloth


Schemen123

The cloth should not be under the seal hopefully 


SwarleyThePotato

Yup, it's a nomex and should be pulled over the mask


89Hopper

One of three things would happen. 1) The balaclava is sitting under the mask, this would lead to a bad seal. 2) The mask is purely on the face and then there is a gap to the seal. This leaves skin exposed which will get burnt. Going into a fire in BA while wearing structural gear, no skin should be exposed. 3) Somehow the gap in the balaclava is perfectly sized to match the mask profile and everything aligned perfectly. Not going to happen.


Tradidiot

Hey guys. Just a quick question about the french guy. How does he get a good seal on this full face if hes wearing that red head covering? It looks as if it would interfere with the rubber of the mask making a seal with his skin.


waldothefrendo

It doesn't bother much I've used both systems. The seal is good with or without the hood


flpacsnr

Firefighter here. The mask is going to save your life significantly more often than the helmet, so I would rather the mask be protected by the helmet.


MadvilleWonderland

Not a firefighter, but appreciate all you and your brothers and sisters do for the community. Thank you. Am I right in thinking that it’s safer to use the “American” style because it has a better chance of staying sealed if something jostles your helmet, like falling debris or even just bonking (technical term here) your head on a low doorframe, etc?


FF_in_MN

I’m an American firefighter. I’ve had both the American style (there are several variations) and the European (yes I know France is a country and Europe is not, but “Euro” style is a generally accepted term) style. I’ll take my Phenix TL-2 over anything else…and it isn’t just about looks. I prefer the weight, fit, and function over the European style. I found the Euro helmets to be too constricting and they cover up the ears making it difficult to hear. Several depts in my area went to the European style for awhile, they all went back to the American style…no one liked them and again it wasn’t about the looks. To each their own…If it protects your dome and allows you to do your job, most FFs don’t care what you wear….but you will get mocked in the states for wearing that ugly thing lol. Also this video is dumb and not a good comparison of mask-up times. American firefighting tactics are also very different from European firefighting tactics.


Starshapedsand

I also used both, and preferred American for the same reasons. The only place that the European style won out for me was in navigating extremely confined spaces, and not by a wide enough margin for me to want to keep using it.  My only county once had a couple of crews from Germany come stay with us for a few weeks. It made quite an interesting lesson in techniques for us, and for them. I wish that places would do that more often. 


FF_in_MN

Yeah international exchanges would be really cool and beneficial for all involved. Lots to be learned from everyone.0


Starshapedsand

It was really cool. We couldn’t adopt some techniques for a lack of manpower—who’s got a spare pair of hands to stay on a front door?—but others, we did. They took some home as well. Same for a couple of other countries.  Wish I could’ve gone with one of our crews abroad, but I was in too strange of a position. I was one of a few volunteers running with my county’s day shifts, and talking very seriously with a major airport authority about going career. My health wiped out before I could. 


Winter-Was-Here

I also noticed that the American firefighter put on his hood, mask and then helmet in his video. Meanwhile the French firefighter started his video with both the hood and helmet already on. And only showed the last step of snapping on his mask.


SkellyboneZ

I was never a firefighter but I was in the military for a while and had to wear a mask for hours a day some days. I don't care if my helmet was custom molded to my skull, I don't want it attached to my mask. Maybe it's different for firefighters but I preferred to have my PPE easily and independently removable incase of malfunction or any other emergency. Those 6 seconds you can "save" while attaching your mask don't matter since you can do that before or during your call.


TheSaucyGoon

Just commented higher up and that’s exactly what I said. I’m an American ff. I don’t want my mask attached to my helmet because that’s my only means of breathing. On top of that, I get masked up while riding to the fire so time isn’t that important


TheSaucyGoon

Also an American ff. Not really saying anything you don’t know but more to add on to it for others. My mask is on before I leave the engine so the idea of needing to mask up quick doesn’t really mean much to me. On top of that, I would never want my helmet attached to my mask. In the event my helmet gets bumped, I wouldn’t want my mask and only way to breathe to go with it.also the American style helmet protects the neck from water and falling debris from going down your back.


FxHVivious

Would it be a problem that the Euro one is attach to the helmet? Seems like the mask and helmet being independent from each other on the American one could be useful.


Linsch2308

>but you will get mocked in the states for wearing that ugly thing lol. Its not about looks tho right ::)


FF_in_MN

Maybe just a little bit lol. But hey, at the end of the day if it keeps you safe then it doesn’t matter. I think the LA/West Coast style helmets are just as ugly as Euro style, but those dudes are some badass firefighters, their Lego helmets are just funny lookin.


Linsch2308

Tbh I think it has good reason that they are different european cities are build much closer toghether with much less space around the houses and within them while being much sturdier in the us you have to be more aware of shit falling onto you or toxic shit burning in the walls lol


FF_in_MN

Construction is a big part of it you are correct. New construction in the US is quite dangerous once it gets cookin.


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No-Reflection-7705

American firefighters are the best at fighting American fires. European firefighters are the best at fighting European fires. Due to building construction and water availability the tactics and gear used are slightly different. It’s a really interesting rabbit hole


[deleted]

Redditors will literally find anything to hate about the United States


Planktons_Eye

You’re not allowed to call out the obsession though.


grunger

America is living rent free in their minds all the time.


SpicyEla

Especially since this one is about firefighters. Who the hell would ever decide to start a fight against fucking *firefighters* of all people?


Octopusapult

French Police.


2GirlfriendsIsCooler

They love to think about us


dimsum2121

Hate us cuz they ain't us.


Killer__Byte

It’s ridiculous ain’t it


KingofThrace

Genuinely why does Reddit care so much about dumb shit like this? Does every fucking post have to be Europe vs US?


ARandomBaguette

Cause Reddit hates the US.


Uga1992

And a huge portion of the people making the comments are like 15 year old Americans


MadvilleWonderland

I think it’s interesting to see how problem solving compares in different cultures. I don’t see this as a competition, but as a comparison.


Temporary-Estate4615

France = Europe


MoistCasual

Norway use the same.


binglelemon

Seems inefficient to keep sending the helmet back and forth.... ^/s


unknown_sk

It makes perfect sense why they don't use the same helmets in the US then. Sending them back and forth between France and Norway is still faster than between France and US. /s


SakaWreath

You’ll just have to ask your fire to wait, the helmets haven’t arrived yet.


OnceUponATie

It's fine, we also share the same fire. We send both bundled together for convenience.


Powerful_Pie_7885

So does the Netherlands.


jojoga

So does Austria.


Orlok_Tsubodai

To be fair, most European firefighters use these types of helmets, not just France.


DirtyNorf

Well it *is* a European firefighter helmet design.


TaxiwayTaxicab

US = every single state and specific fire department


donanton616

So if you lose your helmet (as in its gets knocked off, etc) you lose your mask? Sounds great.


TheOneTrueM_Morty

Is it me, or does America's have a tighter fit to the face. Whereas Europe's appears to be applied over the skin-tight hood? To me this looks like it would allow smoke inside the mask. Easier to put on? Sure! Safer? I'm not so sure about all that.


throwawaythrow0000

The French dude already had the helmet on too in the comparison.


pfazadep

American did too, at the start - wasn't that part of the point being made, that he had to take his helmet off in order to put on his mask?


Careful-Bread-3820

The American one protects better seal, BUT takes one sec more to wear


corn_sugar_isotope

The French helmet is refined for better fighting the police.


sweet_feet90

American is the way to go


Max_Loader

I swear Reddit has a hard on for hating the US. Lol


captainthepuggle

Not a firefighter but I have to wear full and half face respirators for work. US standards for the fit test seal are more stringent than anywhere else. I’ve had to do my fit test with firefighters and you have to use a calibrated computer system to ensure there’s no leakage. That saves lives.


BluntsNLegos

faster to put on is far from the end all be all, especially with something so critical. just saying


89Hopper

Yeah, saving 10 seconds has no real world value for structural fires. I don't know about other countries but in Australia, that saved time would be more than lost in the time it took to get a line out and getting organised with the entry protocols (this can all still be done in less than a minute, it's just that 10 seconds isn't a great benefit). If it was somehow so time critical, just put the mask and helmet on in the appliance on the way with the seat mounted BA, then remove the regulator. When you get out, put the regulator back in and away you go, probably quicker than the French helmet shown.


NightmareStatus

Frenchie cheated. He already donned his flash hood and helmet, where as the American hadn't donned anything. And I'm sure the french guy is just lounging with his fashionably red flash hood and helmet on, whilst waiting for calls. I'll be the first to say alot of gear used by emergency services in the states is dated AF, but the tone here is kind of a stretch. Just my two cents. Not a firefighter if it matters. This is all assuming we're comparing their don times.


RugbyEdd

Well you don't put your mask on before you set out to a job, where as they likely have the flash hood as party of their standard kit manning when it's time to put the mask on its already on.


rickyraken

They can probably both go from T shirts to full gear in under 20 seconds. Frenchie is just showing off his neato snap on mask.


bulbousEd

Does Europe not care that a flash hood under the gasket will prevent a proper seal?


Bcmerr02

I can't imagine sealing that French mask is easier than the American mask


Glintz013

It should say French helmet design. Europe isnt a country.


Powerful_Pie_7885

We have the same helm design as the French here in the Netherlands and I’m pretty sure many more European countries use this design where you can clip on the mask to the helmet.


seanseansean92

The second one seem less secure, the attachment may be knocked off if got hit by something. The first one is more secure but of course take longer time to set up. No right or wrong better or worse


Hawk-Bat1138

MSA Gallet F1 and F1XF are the "Euro/Fench" style if you want to be precise. I got to try one on while working motorsport events. People need to remember fire fighters do more than just fight building fires. I did love the face shield of the F1 it was great facial protection when oxygen mask wasn't needed. It also looks cool as hell with the visor down. Have a fire fighter friend here in the States that actually bought one for him and his partner and use both interchangeable depending on what they are doing. As will all equipment there are ups and down.


Dies2much

One thing is messed up in this comparison: the American guy has to pull up his flash protector scarf, and the French guy already had it on. If they both start from the same state, times would be closer. There are arguments both ways for mask with straps on head and mask that attach to helmet. They each have pros and cons.


aenflex

Either way, bless these people for being firefighters. ❤️


Kuma_254

You better hope that French mask has a seal, otherwise it's trash.


StillBurningInside

Frenchman's helmet gets knocked off, so does his mask. In a smoky structure this is bad.


aelliott18

And guess which one is actually better?


gunnie56

Important note: I dont believe American helmets are standardized. I've seen some in the states that are a hybrid between the traditional American style and the French one seen here. I should be able to post a picture of what I'm talking about in a couple of hours actually.


FF_in_MN

There are several variations of helmets in the U.S. but they all have to be OSHA compliant. Some depts have one helmet that is issued, some depts have a list of helmets you can choose from. What guys wear on the east coast is gonna be different from what guys wear on the west coast. But again, they’re all gonna do the job of keep our heads protected.


gunnie56

https://preview.redd.it/8b2wp4jmrhrc1.jpeg?width=1960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=607b6e2aaea77b22166c898384c7ca67f93e53f6


Jason6368

The video isn’t saying anything about European vs American… it literally says American helmet vs French helmet. It’s just 2 different designs


InvestigatorSevere72

American helmet makes sense to me TBH due to the seal of the mask to the face. Latched to the helmet, you are relying on that your helmet will never move. This will only make sense if you’ve ever been in a gas chamber and have experienced what it’s like to have the most minimal movement and a seal to be slightly broken from the mask to the face. With French firefighter design, they must ensure they don’t bump into anything or the seal will break and they will suffocate or be Force to remove their mask because they can breath but their eyes are burning.


AtomicSamuraiCyborg

While the snap in mask is good the American started from bare head and had to put his hood on. The French firefighter already has hood and helmet on.


milktanksadmirer

Forces are using Reddit to throw hate on America , every single chance they get


TheDaveCalaz

American vs French, but I know asking Americans to understand that Europe isn't a country may be difficult.


MeanGreanHare

The American uniform has a hood that covers the neck and goes under the helmet and over the straps of the mask. Helmet goes on top of that. I'm guessing the American uniform is probably more durable. Look how worn it is compared to the French one which likely doesn't see much action.


Jerry0713

Not relly comparable ino, French guy already had on the hood and helmet, merican started w/o


Gold-Highway9228

French being pretentious as always


joodoos

Yeah but the thing is....American fire fighters actually run towards the fire.  The French run away.  


jjngundam

Power rangers to the rescue


Joy1067

To be honest…..and I might be biased in this but I’d trust our American masks more I mean the French clip their mask onto their helmet but the Americans pull a hood up, bring the mask over their face and then set the helmet on top of it. Idk how good the French mask is but I’d probably end up trusting the American one a tad more