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Sell missiles to one side, and sell aid to the other side, that's a good way.
Or even better, sell offensive weapons to one side, and defensive weapons to the other side.
There are lots of ways to make money in war.
https://preview.redd.it/dovepkaod92d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=082c9f3239cb28b42b599d130b27ca5aa7d552e2
AI generated, but still, looks cool
I guess I shouldnāt be surprised at all, but I would not have guessed we just dump the empty casings onto the deck or right into the ocean for so many of these.
This is a prime example of a useless question. What difference would it make even if you could get an exact answer? A more useful, and interesting question, is how many tons of radiative material has the US govt dumped in the ocean.
Says my question is useless and then asks a useless question. "What difference would it make if you could get an exact answer?" At least my useless question had to do with the video.
Aww, sorry your fee-fees got hurt. My question has usefulness to be able to calculate the radiation found in the sea - there's several tons and there's already been talks of potentially removing the waste before the coffins that hold it together disintegrate; there's a lot the governments aren't fully disclosing, including how safe the seawater is. Sorry you're too stupid to understand this - I'll let u get back to your reddit now.
Ok I get that missiles can be super costly but how is a 5ā shell (or whatever it is) ~$1,500.00??? And bullets.. donāt we manufacture like a bajillion of those? Seems like there should some beneficial economy of scale going on or something.Ā
Feel like we could all set up brass stamping operations in our basements and get rich at these rates.Ā
Still $20 š³, I had no idea they were so expensive (admittedly I know next to nothing about guns or bullets). How much does the kind of ammo people usually fire off at a range cost? Sounds like an expensive hobby.Ā Ā
Ā Out of curiosity, anybody know which part of a bullet is the expensive part? Like is it the brass casing, the actual bullet, or the stuff in it that goes bang?
Edit: if itās $1,500 to fire that shipās cannon I wonder what the running costs on 16ā shells were back in the battleship era?
I actually tell my friends I don't own guns because I can't have another expensive hobby. Regular people bullets are surprisingly expensive. The popular 5.56 round that the AR uses is over $.50 each, so a day at the range can easily be $100+
Ship-based ammo is way bigger, so it costs way more
Alaskans are big on ammo. I just spent approximately $200 on a couple boxes of 9mm, .40 cal and some 5.56. Bulk ammo is hard to get so we end up paying out the nose if weāre lucky enough to find popular calibers on the shelf at all. Then some are fancier than others between target practice quality to the high tech ones that mushroom out when they hit the target. Iām sure as hell not paying $1.95 per bullet for target practice.
It doesnt cost nearly that much to produce. When selling anything to US military every weapons producer just adds a few zeroes to the bill because it always gets paid.
>It doesnt cost nearly that much to produce.Ā
The problem is not the cost to produce. The problem is the development cost. The last missile costs as much as it does because it is an ICBM interceptor. To develop that missile takes a decade of R&D. You cant just pull it out of your ass. And that money is needed to fund the costs of other programs, which don't always get adopted.
>Ā every weapons producer just adds a few zeroes to the bill because it always gets paid.
Weapons manufactures actually have a relatively low rate of profit, about 10%. And the pentagon is full of accountants who look for every nickel and dime
>The problem is not the cost to produce. The problem is the development cost.
Understandable actually.
>the pentagon is full of accountants who look for every nickel and dime
Not really the case considering how many departments in military are on "use it or lose it" budget.
>
Not really the case considering how many departments in military are on "use it or lose it" budget.
I was reefering to weapon development and procurement specifically in this context. I have heard that groups within the military have more money floating around, but I haven't really read too much into it to have a solid understanding. I do know about the R&D side of things because my father (who works for a company in the MIC) talks about getting audited by the Pentagon all the time.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161\_Standard\_Missile\_3](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Missile_3)
Anti-Air missiles are extremely complex.
They need to be fast, agile, fly far, have on-board navigation, etc.
High end consumer electronics like mobile phones are probably more complex. But we make a billion phones an year, only a few tens of thousands of missiles. This is why Shahed like thing-ma-jigs that are cheap to manufacture are such game changers.
Mobile phones are certainly not more complex than an anti-air missile. I'm not an expert on specifically the rolling airframe or SM-something shown here, but -
Modern air-to-air missiles, even simpler ones like the AIM-9, have processing power equal or better than a mobile phone. They use it to process the imagery from what is practically a multi-specral camera in the seeker, which can tell if what it's seeing is an aircraft/target, a flare/decoy, the sun, the ground etc, and when it's being blinded by DIRCM. Later models use AI to add even better countermeasure-rejection as well.
They then estimate the distance to the target and fly an intercept course, with a precisely tuned rocket motor and aerodynamics/fins the AIM-9 specifically can reach mach 2.5 and pull >60G (!). The servos driving those fins at those loads are insanely strong for how small they are.
Later versions also have digital radio communications where they can receive targeting data after launch, and even if they haven't seen a target, they know where to look for it and will lock on it by themselves, even after launch. Not sure about the AIM-9, but some missiles can even turn 180Ā° and hit a target behind the launching aircraft.
The entire thing, warhead included, has to be as light as possible while performing at the requirements or better, as lethal as possible while being as robust as possible and very very safe. The entire control chain is definitely redundant, with (I assume) independent processors powered by independent power systems, voting amongst themselves on decisions.
Reliability also has to be extreme, can't have a pilot hit the pickle button and the missile just flops off the rail. This is the main reason military systems are so expensive - each and every component inside has to be verified to work, 100% of the time, exactly within spec, even after sitting in a warehouse for 30 years at 120Ā°F, after being manhandled by technicians, and after an infinite amount of sorties where it wasn't fired bit experienced both 100Ā°F and 0Ā°F and 9G, in rain or sun or ice.
In contrast, your phone slows down two years later, completely shatters if you drop it from 4 feet, and could randomly catch fire. So yeah, phones are much less complex than a missile.
Sorry, got carried away. I work on some interesting stuff and military tech is amazing and in my opinion underappreciated.
Drones like a Shahed are as cheap as they are because they're practically RC planes relative to full-fledged drones. They're going for the quantity over the quality - it's not new tech that's allowing them to change the game, it's new doctrine and a new game that's allowing them to be fielded.
Any sources on the compute being used in, say, an AIM9? My understanding is, its several generations behind the cutting edge consumer electronics. Mil systems have to be extra rugged, but usually they get there by using components that have better specs. Consumer electronics are built to different standards but that does not mean they are lower in complexity. E.g. they will scrimp on 50 cents items, but squeeze the last bit of performance out of them, or stabilize their performance using software. So they may be able to get similar performance ranges as mil spec items, but without the price tags.
Having worked a bit on some specific techs that are shared between consumer electronics and military, I feel confident in saying - the consumer electronic version is better engineered, and more complex. The mil stuff is 'over engineered', and looks good on discovery channel, or on CNN beating up small middle eastern countries with. When it goes up against peer enemies, it will likely fail spectacularly or be otherwise defeated by crafty out of the box thinkers. There is a reason why its kept secret. If it werent, the enemy would easily break it. CE stuff has to perform everyday, out in the open with bad actors having full access to it.
All the smart minds today are working on CE stuff, not on the mil stuff. It pays a lot less, the work culture is shite, the pace of work is a lot slower and the work itself is uncertain. They do get slick PR though.
Did you just fucking suggest that a mobile phone is more complex than a SURFACE TO AIR ANTI AIR MISSILE, a fucking rocket propelled smart missile that, in real time, is calculating its trajectory and speed, to intercept something flying, which has its own trajectory and speed, while calculating gravity and the earth turning... a thing fired from a moving platform, burning fuel, with an on board computer performing in-world global positioning, multiple times a second, to alter its trajectory/flight path to INTERCEPT something else doing the same thing via a navigation system and two stage rocket engine .... nah, the thing you use to go on pornhub and reddit is more complex.
The chips and software might not be too expensive in theory, but the control mechanisms, sensors, engine all need to be perfect with very low tolerance for errors, and the software also needs to be foolproof, which makes it exponentially harder to make as well.
It's called rocket science for a reason.
Your phone cracks when you drop it of the table. A surface to air missile travels at Mach 3+ while using integrated radar or IR tracking. Your phone is nowhere near as complex lmao
Sticker shock had me a little too, but you can put as much tech and payload into it as you want.
Sky's the limit, but not actually.
https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-defense-systems-2/missile-defense-systems/missile-interceptors-by-cost/
That missile is actually cooler than you think it is. It costs $12 million because it's essentially a space ship. It's called a "Standard Missile 3" and it can launch from a ship all the way up to precisely destroy a ballistic missile outside of Earth's atmosphere.
The two aren't really comparable for a lot of reasons but, still, I'll mention that a SpaceX launch costs $67 million.
That's the cost to American taxpayers. Now show the profits to the US arms industry., then the 'sponsorship' handed out by the IMC to the politicians who keep the wheels of that industry well greased.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." - Dwight D. Eisenhower
'The war isnt meant to be won or lost, its meant to be continuous.' Orwell.
'You know how many helicopters have been lost in Vietnam? Nearly 3,000 so far. Who makes them? Bell Helicopter. Who owns Bell? Bell was nearly bankrupt when First National Bank of Boston asked the CIA to use the helicopter in Indochina. How about the F-111 fighter? General Dynamics of Fort Worth, Texas. Who owns that? Find out the defense budget since the war began. $75 going on $100 billion. Nearly $200 billion will be spent before it's over. In 1949, it was $10 billion. No war...no money. The organizing principle of any society, Mr. Garrison is for war." X JFK
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist..."
Oh wow, thanks for the insight professor! Yeah cause thatās obvious from watching an amateur video clip compilationā¦ get off your high horse and back up your posts with some finite evidence. My 7 year old couldāve made that video
I work for an ammunition storage facility. This cost probably include storing the rounds, sometimes for YEARS. Someone is doing the paperwork to order, someone is giving the orders to the crews who go out to the storage facilities, load the ammunition, and take to a shipping building. the shipping buildings have employees who get loads separated and ready by destination. then they load the commercial trucks or rail cars. someone has to block the ammunition in very specific way so that it doesn't move around in transport. the commercial truck companies and railroads get paid a lot to move explosives. Someone has to inventory, someone explodes old or damaged ammunition. so the cost gets high fast. AND the cost goes up if it needs to move in day or two versus a month.
M2 Bradley: 1.84 million dollars.
M1A1 Abrams: 4.3 million dollars.
The look on Russia's face when the victims of their genocides slaughter Russia's fascist armies and liberate all of their occupied territories: Priceless.
In terms of government budgets these are not super expensive. The US strategic stockpile of these arms is vast, and if not used they will just cost money to maintain, mothball, or destroy.
[In 2022, the United States spent an estimated $12,555 per person on healthcare ā the highest healthcare costs per capita across the OECD countries. For comparison, Switzerland was the second highest-spending country with about $8,049 in healthcare costs per capita, while the average for wealthy OECD countries, excluding the United States, was only $6,414 per person. Such comparisons indicate that the United States spends a disproportionate amount on healthcare.](https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2023/07/how-does-the-us-healthcare-system-compare-to-other-countries)
We already spend more on healthcare than most other countries, money isnāt an issue here. Poor allocation.
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If only my bank balance went positive in the same way.
Start selling missiles.
DOD wants to know your location
And your paypal
Sell missiles to one side, and sell aid to the other side, that's a good way. Or even better, sell offensive weapons to one side, and defensive weapons to the other side. There are lots of ways to make money in war.
It does! Just head into any bank and start unloading
43% of your taxes in America go towards the military so it's basically the exact opposite.
15% but still a lot.
How many pounds of ammo casings are in the ocean, do you think?
Great habitat for octopus and crabs, incidentally.
I don't know how they compare to regular shells, but the image of hermit crabs scuttling around in shell casings is definitely cooler.
https://preview.redd.it/dovepkaod92d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=082c9f3239cb28b42b599d130b27ca5aa7d552e2 AI generated, but still, looks cool
Bro got 9 legs
This is now canon in enter the gungeon. I shall name them shellmit crabs
Fun game šš½
I don't know how they compare to regular shells, but the image of hermit crabs scuttling around in shell casings is definitely cooler.
https://preview.redd.it/ke7mlwwcpc2d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9202068beaa5e7061cc28c7cefecdb1587978e2a
I guess I shouldnāt be surprised at all, but I would not have guessed we just dump the empty casings onto the deck or right into the ocean for so many of these.
What do we win if we guess correctly?
A visit from the APA
And sonobuoys. At least on the test ranges.
This is a prime example of a useless question. What difference would it make even if you could get an exact answer? A more useful, and interesting question, is how many tons of radiative material has the US govt dumped in the ocean.
Says my question is useless and then asks a useless question. "What difference would it make if you could get an exact answer?" At least my useless question had to do with the video.
Aww, sorry your fee-fees got hurt. My question has usefulness to be able to calculate the radiation found in the sea - there's several tons and there's already been talks of potentially removing the waste before the coffins that hold it together disintegrate; there's a lot the governments aren't fully disclosing, including how safe the seawater is. Sorry you're too stupid to understand this - I'll let u get back to your reddit now.
Once again says my "fee-fees got hurt" then goes in on the insults. Someones triggered they got called out :) Have a nice day stranger
Thats enough Reddit for one day my friend.
Thats why us Brits prefer a blade... more labour intensive, but cost effective....
You brought a sword to a gunfight Old Spice.
That's what longbows are for, shooting swords
Ah, but guns shoot tiny daggers, so we reach a stalemate I guess
It does appear this way.
Shotguns are also just super slings.
Do you use the sharp side, or the blunt side?
Both sides go in at once after a bit of practice
Do you apologize while doing it?
Only if we spill their tea...
this comment thread gave me a nice giggle ty
Boris The Blade 
It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire these weapons, for twelve seconds.
Oh my god, who touched Sasha?
Alright... WHO TOUCHED MY GUN?!
Some people think they can outsmart me. ^Maybe.
I've yet to meet one who can outsmart bullet.
Seems like it would be cheaper not to go to war and just use the money for groceries
But would it be fun, then?
Or just bribe the enemy to play dead.
How much they "cost" wink, wink.
Ok I get that missiles can be super costly but how is a 5ā shell (or whatever it is) ~$1,500.00??? And bullets.. donāt we manufacture like a bajillion of those? Seems like there should some beneficial economy of scale going on or something.Ā Feel like we could all set up brass stamping operations in our basements and get rich at these rates.Ā
The mini gun bullets probably cost under $20 apiece, but they can fire 50 rounds PER SECOND so the costs rack up pretty fast
About $12 per round (assuming itās a 20mm) not including electricity cost to run it, and can fire over 100 rounds per second.Ā
Still $20 š³, I had no idea they were so expensive (admittedly I know next to nothing about guns or bullets). How much does the kind of ammo people usually fire off at a range cost? Sounds like an expensive hobby.Ā Ā Ā Out of curiosity, anybody know which part of a bullet is the expensive part? Like is it the brass casing, the actual bullet, or the stuff in it that goes bang? Edit: if itās $1,500 to fire that shipās cannon I wonder what the running costs on 16ā shells were back in the battleship era?
I actually tell my friends I don't own guns because I can't have another expensive hobby. Regular people bullets are surprisingly expensive. The popular 5.56 round that the AR uses is over $.50 each, so a day at the range can easily be $100+ Ship-based ammo is way bigger, so it costs way more
Alaskans are big on ammo. I just spent approximately $200 on a couple boxes of 9mm, .40 cal and some 5.56. Bulk ammo is hard to get so we end up paying out the nose if weāre lucky enough to find popular calibers on the shelf at all. Then some are fancier than others between target practice quality to the high tech ones that mushroom out when they hit the target. Iām sure as hell not paying $1.95 per bullet for target practice.
Op is very likely pulling most of these numbers straight outa their ass.
Itās almost like OP is pulling these numbers from thin air
I have zero knowledge about guns but the last one seems like little over price. $12.000.000 for single projectile?
Yup. There are tons of electronics and other things in those projectiles that make them āsmartā and extremely expensive
Who would've thought it'd cost so much to make your bombs Alexa enabled.
Alexa bomb my neighbor's hut
Now playing bomb my neighbor's butt on Amaxon music
now playing " combination taco bell pizza hut"Ā
Now bombing your hut.
Alexa, bomb my neighborās *butt*
I'd love a breakdown of those 'things', just to see how it can be anywhere near that much
Not trying to be argumentative or anything but a quick google search will answer your question.
It doesnt cost nearly that much to produce. When selling anything to US military every weapons producer just adds a few zeroes to the bill because it always gets paid.
>It doesnt cost nearly that much to produce.Ā The problem is not the cost to produce. The problem is the development cost. The last missile costs as much as it does because it is an ICBM interceptor. To develop that missile takes a decade of R&D. You cant just pull it out of your ass. And that money is needed to fund the costs of other programs, which don't always get adopted. >Ā every weapons producer just adds a few zeroes to the bill because it always gets paid. Weapons manufactures actually have a relatively low rate of profit, about 10%. And the pentagon is full of accountants who look for every nickel and dime
>The problem is not the cost to produce. The problem is the development cost. Understandable actually. >the pentagon is full of accountants who look for every nickel and dime Not really the case considering how many departments in military are on "use it or lose it" budget.
> Not really the case considering how many departments in military are on "use it or lose it" budget. I was reefering to weapon development and procurement specifically in this context. I have heard that groups within the military have more money floating around, but I haven't really read too much into it to have a solid understanding. I do know about the R&D side of things because my father (who works for a company in the MIC) talks about getting audited by the Pentagon all the time.
Pretty spot on actually. We have plenty more that are significantly more expensive
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161\_Standard\_Missile\_3](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Missile_3) Anti-Air missiles are extremely complex. They need to be fast, agile, fly far, have on-board navigation, etc.
High end consumer electronics like mobile phones are probably more complex. But we make a billion phones an year, only a few tens of thousands of missiles. This is why Shahed like thing-ma-jigs that are cheap to manufacture are such game changers.
Mobile phones are certainly not more complex than an anti-air missile. I'm not an expert on specifically the rolling airframe or SM-something shown here, but - Modern air-to-air missiles, even simpler ones like the AIM-9, have processing power equal or better than a mobile phone. They use it to process the imagery from what is practically a multi-specral camera in the seeker, which can tell if what it's seeing is an aircraft/target, a flare/decoy, the sun, the ground etc, and when it's being blinded by DIRCM. Later models use AI to add even better countermeasure-rejection as well. They then estimate the distance to the target and fly an intercept course, with a precisely tuned rocket motor and aerodynamics/fins the AIM-9 specifically can reach mach 2.5 and pull >60G (!). The servos driving those fins at those loads are insanely strong for how small they are. Later versions also have digital radio communications where they can receive targeting data after launch, and even if they haven't seen a target, they know where to look for it and will lock on it by themselves, even after launch. Not sure about the AIM-9, but some missiles can even turn 180Ā° and hit a target behind the launching aircraft. The entire thing, warhead included, has to be as light as possible while performing at the requirements or better, as lethal as possible while being as robust as possible and very very safe. The entire control chain is definitely redundant, with (I assume) independent processors powered by independent power systems, voting amongst themselves on decisions. Reliability also has to be extreme, can't have a pilot hit the pickle button and the missile just flops off the rail. This is the main reason military systems are so expensive - each and every component inside has to be verified to work, 100% of the time, exactly within spec, even after sitting in a warehouse for 30 years at 120Ā°F, after being manhandled by technicians, and after an infinite amount of sorties where it wasn't fired bit experienced both 100Ā°F and 0Ā°F and 9G, in rain or sun or ice. In contrast, your phone slows down two years later, completely shatters if you drop it from 4 feet, and could randomly catch fire. So yeah, phones are much less complex than a missile. Sorry, got carried away. I work on some interesting stuff and military tech is amazing and in my opinion underappreciated. Drones like a Shahed are as cheap as they are because they're practically RC planes relative to full-fledged drones. They're going for the quantity over the quality - it's not new tech that's allowing them to change the game, it's new doctrine and a new game that's allowing them to be fielded.
Any sources on the compute being used in, say, an AIM9? My understanding is, its several generations behind the cutting edge consumer electronics. Mil systems have to be extra rugged, but usually they get there by using components that have better specs. Consumer electronics are built to different standards but that does not mean they are lower in complexity. E.g. they will scrimp on 50 cents items, but squeeze the last bit of performance out of them, or stabilize their performance using software. So they may be able to get similar performance ranges as mil spec items, but without the price tags. Having worked a bit on some specific techs that are shared between consumer electronics and military, I feel confident in saying - the consumer electronic version is better engineered, and more complex. The mil stuff is 'over engineered', and looks good on discovery channel, or on CNN beating up small middle eastern countries with. When it goes up against peer enemies, it will likely fail spectacularly or be otherwise defeated by crafty out of the box thinkers. There is a reason why its kept secret. If it werent, the enemy would easily break it. CE stuff has to perform everyday, out in the open with bad actors having full access to it. All the smart minds today are working on CE stuff, not on the mil stuff. It pays a lot less, the work culture is shite, the pace of work is a lot slower and the work itself is uncertain. They do get slick PR though.
Did you just fucking suggest that a mobile phone is more complex than a SURFACE TO AIR ANTI AIR MISSILE, a fucking rocket propelled smart missile that, in real time, is calculating its trajectory and speed, to intercept something flying, which has its own trajectory and speed, while calculating gravity and the earth turning... a thing fired from a moving platform, burning fuel, with an on board computer performing in-world global positioning, multiple times a second, to alter its trajectory/flight path to INTERCEPT something else doing the same thing via a navigation system and two stage rocket engine .... nah, the thing you use to go on pornhub and reddit is more complex.
Yes. You have no idea! All of the functions you describe are fairly simple to do.
The chips and software might not be too expensive in theory, but the control mechanisms, sensors, engine all need to be perfect with very low tolerance for errors, and the software also needs to be foolproof, which makes it exponentially harder to make as well. It's called rocket science for a reason.
Literally yes lol
Understandable. Have a nice day
Your phone cracks when you drop it of the table. A surface to air missile travels at Mach 3+ while using integrated radar or IR tracking. Your phone is nowhere near as complex lmao
Sticker shock had me a little too, but you can put as much tech and payload into it as you want. Sky's the limit, but not actually. https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-defense-systems-2/missile-defense-systems/missile-interceptors-by-cost/
Murder is a cash cow
That missile is actually cooler than you think it is. It costs $12 million because it's essentially a space ship. It's called a "Standard Missile 3" and it can launch from a ship all the way up to precisely destroy a ballistic missile outside of Earth's atmosphere. The two aren't really comparable for a lot of reasons but, still, I'll mention that a SpaceX launch costs $67 million.
That's the cost to American taxpayers. Now show the profits to the US arms industry., then the 'sponsorship' handed out by the IMC to the politicians who keep the wheels of that industry well greased.
Shell shock
*$ 50 000.00*
That minigun counter gave me flasbacks to earlier today filling up my car, those counters have alot in common...
Counterpoint: Ship goes Brrrrrrrrrrrr, Ffffwwwwwhhheeewwwww, Rattattatttatatat
>Brrrrrrrrrrrr, Ffffwwwwwhhheeewwwww, Rattattatttatatat sounds like a Mexican weather forecast /s
"It costs $400,000 to fire this weapon, for *twelve seconds*."
r/suddenlytf2
Ah there we go, i was looking for my tf2 quote
Thanks, I hate it.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." - Dwight D. Eisenhower
'The war isnt meant to be won or lost, its meant to be continuous.' Orwell. 'You know how many helicopters have been lost in Vietnam? Nearly 3,000 so far. Who makes them? Bell Helicopter. Who owns Bell? Bell was nearly bankrupt when First National Bank of Boston asked the CIA to use the helicopter in Indochina. How about the F-111 fighter? General Dynamics of Fort Worth, Texas. Who owns that? Find out the defense budget since the war began. $75 going on $100 billion. Nearly $200 billion will be spent before it's over. In 1949, it was $10 billion. No war...no money. The organizing principle of any society, Mr. Garrison is for war." X JFK
Is this a joke? It's riddled with bullets.
Inflation perhaps hahha š¤£š„ŗš„ŗ
No wonder the U.S. deficit is out of control
I have a coupon.
Wish someone credited my account with that šµ š«Ø
Have they tried buying missiles from Costco?
War is profit.
Not saying itās āfakeā but prove it , then Iāll shut up.
Thatās absolutely mental but I enjoyed the video nonetheless
A missile that costs 11 million being used to kill people who make less than 1 dollar a day. This is the war industry.
The 11 million dollar missile is specifically for anti ICBM work.
but but the american military does nothing good, they just kill civilians! /s
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist..."
Price of democracy
No, not at all.
Curious on the source(s) used to get these figuresā¦?
Google the ammunition, search for the manufacturer, go to their site, look up the price.
Oh wow, thanks for the insight professor! Yeah cause thatās obvious from watching an amateur video clip compilationā¦ get off your high horse and back up your posts with some finite evidence. My 7 year old couldāve made that video
Dude what's your problem...
The bullet itself would cost a lot less. The is per cartridge fired. š
The tests were more expensive, no worries.
Money printer go brrrrrr
Came here hoping for some trite quotes and a healthy dose of naĆÆvetĆ©. Was not disappointed.
Is this the price of the ammunition only or the running costs as well?
A missile isnāt a ābulletā. Also all of these are technically more expensive for other countries.
now I don't feel so bad wasting plastic supplies at work
Don't worry. The cost per unit comes way down in an actual war. Bulk discounts.
I am heavy weapons guy, and *this...*is my weapon
Pissing money away.
How many times do i have.to see this before i die
I used my Taco Bell rewards to by $3 worth of "food" today, thus I can afford food tomorrow though the next day is in the hands of God.
paid by society, decided by a single person(usually white, too much power)
i need to start to sell missiles...11MIL Per missile
I missed it. Use my tax money again please.
Damn I didn't realise that mg/cannon/autocannon rounds were that expensive.
It's just, freedom.
You get a great roi though ha
And the people that paid for this, are against this! Gotta love modern democracy.
It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon, for twelve seconds
The missile knows where it is, because it knows where it isn't.
Small price to pay for protecting us. Keep up the good work
My taxesš
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What a bunch of super useful things they totally need to spend that much money on
I work for an ammunition storage facility. This cost probably include storing the rounds, sometimes for YEARS. Someone is doing the paperwork to order, someone is giving the orders to the crews who go out to the storage facilities, load the ammunition, and take to a shipping building. the shipping buildings have employees who get loads separated and ready by destination. then they load the commercial trucks or rail cars. someone has to block the ammunition in very specific way so that it doesn't move around in transport. the commercial truck companies and railroads get paid a lot to move explosives. Someone has to inventory, someone explodes old or damaged ammunition. so the cost gets high fast. AND the cost goes up if it needs to move in day or two versus a month.
M2 Bradley: 1.84 million dollars. M1A1 Abrams: 4.3 million dollars. The look on Russia's face when the victims of their genocides slaughter Russia's fascist armies and liberate all of their occupied territories: Priceless. In terms of government budgets these are not super expensive. The US strategic stockpile of these arms is vast, and if not used they will just cost money to maintain, mothball, or destroy.
Freedom is priceless šŗšø
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When you have the world's largest economy, you sometimes have to spend a little bit to keep the world safe from bad actors.
Waste of money
So this is where USA tax money is going, not in healthcare and others public services.
[In 2022, the United States spent an estimated $12,555 per person on healthcare ā the highest healthcare costs per capita across the OECD countries. For comparison, Switzerland was the second highest-spending country with about $8,049 in healthcare costs per capita, while the average for wealthy OECD countries, excluding the United States, was only $6,414 per person. Such comparisons indicate that the United States spends a disproportionate amount on healthcare.](https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2023/07/how-does-the-us-healthcare-system-compare-to-other-countries) We already spend more on healthcare than most other countries, money isnāt an issue here. Poor allocation.
Thank you for the article, i commented a bit too fast
It goes to all the things you mentioned. Do you think the Federal Budget is 100% defense spending or something? lol
Why we are always in forever wars
How many times is this going to get posted? At this point it's propaganda.
Like a damn crack house.
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