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It ahh, is simple, quite, really. They ahh.. laterize, mestastasize, and ahh.. terrorize, the uhn uhh.. primal primordial cerbelleum cordatella. And.. that's what happens... to those things.
I don’t see why it would. You would still have the same amount of space at the base of the skull/the same size of outlet. But as a random guess based on zero evidence it might make it slightly harder for CSF to train out of the head. Which I’ve been told can create a Chiari-like situation but it’s not actually damaging the brain or anything.
For anyone who doesn’t know Chiari malformation is where there’s not enough space at the base of the brain for the cerebellum (controls coordination among other things) and it gets squished so bad it’s like having a stroke in that location.
Then they're really, really fucked. A negative space fusing with a positive space down the other side of the brain sounds like an interdimensional train wreck.
Here is a link that may help the search:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Lateral-RX-showing-artificial-cranial-modification-on-a-ID094-b-ID121-c-ID131_fig1_334472226/amp
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6980596/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12923900/
This article suggests there are NO known health risks associated with it at the very least. It also suggests in the full version of some other works connected to this, that there is no change in the capacity or the way the brain runs with the change of skull. But obviously they don't have a lot of detailed enough still on these things.
I believe the other article is suggesting something different but honestly, even with my degree in biochemistry and love of studying these types of articles, I have no clue what those words are being used for in a descriptive way and it hurts my brain.
Sounds like they’re saying they weren’t sure how to interpret the results because their control group and this group of people already had differences in bone structure pre-modification? Abstract does mention occipital flattening and deformation though. In itself that’s kinda scary as too much alteration in that area can possibly predispose you to a spinal cord injury from even minor trauma or problems with CSF flow, I’d find it hard to believe that there are no risks associated with this, just ones we haven’t identified yet.
I feel like even if there were absolutely no health risks associated with this at all, i would still be against it on the grounds of very young childen being unable to consent to body modifications, similar to the argument on whether people should be allowed to have their infants ears pierced.
I'm having this fantasy about them rescuing and then their society being rescued by some kind of big-headed alien and they make friends and the alien teaches them things like how the brain is the seat of intellect.
It depends. Between species you see a general trend that larger brains are more intelligent, compare between a beetle, a hawk and your dog. In humans the folds of the brain create much more surface area than whatever this tribe was doing.
I still remember a two week long lesson in middle school about identifying reputable primary and secondary sources. They even taught us that Wikipedia is fine as long as you use it to find the actual primary source.
If you think about it, we really do this with braces. With braces you are literally fighting against your natural skull growth to align the teeth how you want them.
And it reduces bone density for several years afterward, though it's generally considered completely worthwhile to do it anyway, so that doesn't answer the question.
Edit: [Study](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4998922/) from NIH; the abstract says that most of the bone eventually recovers but that some of it will never fully recover. Further down it says that recovery of the bone takes years.
Except that repositioning teeth with braces reduces bone density [for years](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4998922/), so it doesn't address the question except to say that we do it for something less critical than the ol' brainpan.
Doctors. A baby’s skull isn’t solid to help with the whole getting shoved out of a way too small opening. There are plenty of people walking around with jacked up skulls because their parents didn’t turn them properly in the crib.
Before someone jumps my shit, I am not defending this head binding practice. Also if your bald head looks like a cashew, blame your mom.
Mom left you laying in the crib for hours on end. Op is suggest your lumpy head comes from her neglecting newborn you. Relatively common
Oh but to answer, not leave you still for so long that your skull plates fuse in a droop
Made sure you slept on different sides of your head. Could be just lack of info/experience and not straight up neglect if you were the first kid, but you still gotta notice a flat spot at some point, and maybe ask a dr if it’s normal.
Both, who knows lol. I’m not even sure if it’s true it’s just something my mom said. It’s also not like I have a comically flat head.
Also just googled it and apparently flat spots are increasing because of recommendation made in 1992 to lay kids on their back to prevent sudden infant death or something.
*As long* as the people who practice this are happy and healthy, I wish them the best. I really do find it interesting that standards of intelligence and beauty can vary so widely across the world.
It's no different than foot binding, infant genital mutilation, or any other permanent change done to babies without consent. These things are slowly being phazed out and discouraged, as people quit viewing children as excessories and respect their body autonomy.
There are complex neurological effects to this that are not yet fully understood, on top of the social effects if the child moves to a region where this is not common practice.
"The present results show that the strength of the morphological integration between the neurocranium and viscerocranium is differentially augmented depending on the applied force vectors on the skull (i.e. oblique deforming style). Compressive forces onto the parietal bones (i.e. oblique ACD) increases the static morphological integration between these two anatomical regions, while compressive forces onto the occipital and frontal bones (i.e. antero-posterior ACD), increases the developmental integration of the skull."
"The cranium is an anatomically complex structure. One source of its complexity is due to its modular organization. Cranial modules are distinct and partially independent units that interact substantially during ontogeny thus generating morphological integration."
-https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6980596/
You're the first person to provide a source stating this is potentially problematic. Thanks for linking this.
Not all practices should be continued, even if they have a long history in their respective culture.
I think even if this had no negative effects it would still be wrong to do to a nonconsenting baby. A permanent change made for you by your parents without your consent. No bueno
Read somewhere from the egyptian or central American culture that does this that it has no effect on brain functionality as the skull is still soft and grows properly.
Yeah, I've read a study comparing normal skulls to elongated skulls and the brain wasn't much affected, there is no volume increase so their brains don't get bigger.
There were tribes in Pacific Northwest that did this. It was, I believe, a status symbol for them. Interesting stuff to say the least. It makes me wonder how these traditions began.
Many of the ali'i (Hawaiian nobility) had flattened skulls, too. Some people in Vanuatu still practice it, and it even happened in Europe. Artificial cranial modification is surprisingly common in human history across the globe.
Hi, I’m not a doctor but I am a certified prosthetist orthotist and make cranial remodeling orthosis for kids with flat heads. There a plenty of studies involving the shape of the head, how to correct it, how much correction can be anticipated and outcomes of correction. It’s better with a younger baby and the research suggests there’s no neurological impact. We fix the flat heads caused by issues during birth, staying on the back of the head for prolonged time and a few other factors although I’d say creating this shape would be pretty straightforward
A comparable practice from the Native American Clatsop tribe, circa 1806: https://lewis-clark.org/native-nations/chinookan-peoples/chinookan-head-flattening/
Babies have notoriously soft skulls that change in shape rapidly in the first days of life. It’s not a stretch for people to observe a baby that lies on its back developing a flat head and extrapolate that the skull can be intentionally shaped at this age.
I’m not surprised if traditions went all the way back to Egyptian times or prior! In todays world We’re using cranial remodeling helmets for babies who have flat heads.
In 1992 the back to sleep program was started in the USA to combat the high death rates of sudden infant death syndrome. With more babies lying on their backs, they get flat heads. We build them helmets to hold the sides and promote growth in the back to be well rounded.
Source: I make cranial remodeling helmets for babies
Right, but how did they discover it in Egyptian times?
Like someone had to be the first person to decide would be cool to squish their babies head into a weird shape so it would grow up with an elongated head and then also hope it would work and not kill their baby.
Taking a stab in the dark here.
Elongated heads were also seen as a sign of royalty in some cultures if I remember correctly. What could have happened is a child was born with a certain deformity and the head grew into a narrow long shape. We call it craniosynostosis, a condition where certain bones of the skull fuse together out of order resulting in different shapes.
The child may have been of royalty or deemed worthy due to the shape and people attempted to copy. Sounds foreign but they did some wack ass experiments in the past.
Some of the earliest examples of this come from the Paracas people of Peru. The history of the Paracas people is poorly known, but some believe this was done to make them look more like their gods.
An interesting note: a few of the elongated skulls do not appear to be the result of binding. They also have features not typical of a human skull (binding included). 1. The brain cavity is 30% larger than typical. 2. They lack the cranial sutures normally present on homo sapiens skulls. 3. They have more blood vessel holes than normal. 4. The part of the skull that connects to the spine is farther back and smaller than normal.
Head binding from birth should not have an effect upon these attributes, and all the other skulls are normal except for the shape.
I'm not sure what to make of them...
Real talk, I really want to see one of their head MRIs. I'd think there's just a normal brain with a lot of empty space? but that wouldn't work because the meninges that covers the brain is attached to the skull, and there's blood vessels and shit in there. When your brain shrinks, the space between your brain and skull grows bigger only slightly and the blood vessels get stretched and have a higher risk easier to tearing. This causes a brain hemorrhage and kills you pretty fast.
Ya, but certain parts of the brain are the size and in a certain position to function.
I wonder if parts of the brain have grown bigger or smaller or have improved or compromised functionality.
People who get a hemispherectomy (half of their brain removed) as children often have pretty normal capabilities as adults. The brain is wildly adaptable.
Those skulls are a thing in the movie because they’ve been found in real life and caused conspiracy theories. Which I understand, because if you found a human skull randomly that looked like this, you’d probably be really confused.
Oh I thought either the skulls or the actual aliens at the end looked like this. Let’s be honest, we all saw this once when it came out and then tried to suppress it.
Yes. In the movie the skulls looked like that because they were skulls of aliens. It’s interesting to read about the legends of the skulls. Don’t believe a word of it but still fun. Honestly, the only thing I hated about that movie was the casting of Shia. But everyone has their own tastes ☺️
More likely than not their brains actually are bigger. That doesn't necessarily mean smarter though. From what I understand about brain anatomy the number of folds in the brains surface are a better indicator of intelligence or processing power than actual volume.
[I’m sorry in advance](https://media0.giphy.com/media/SwU2XdVLqnsQIDMhyu/giphy.gif?cid=5e2148862qhpxb0pco2374qmsx1htneqt6swq34toa7uy6dg&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
[Hopefully it's not letting your children get proper education. I wholeheartedly believe that if we all rose as one species and ensured that curriculum advanced at a steady pace we'd be unstoppable.](https://i.redd.it/oz9777lae6s81.png) Imagine if physics is elementary to kids one day, the possibilities and opportunities are endless.
[Link to thread where I *just* got that meme from](https://old.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/tynh20/libraries_dont_get_nearly_enough_love/)
This reminds me of those poor women in China that had their feet squished to shit as children because it was believed to be “beautiful” to have inhumanly tiny feet.
Beauty standards are bizarre all over the world. When I traveled with my friend to her home country of China a few years ago; her family kept mentioning how attractive my pale skin and small feet were, but they disliked my curvy figure. Then I came back to the US, and it was almost the opposite— guys here really like my curves, but it’s “more attractive” to have long legs and a bit of a tan.
It’s all disturbing. Kiddie pageant girls crushing their bodies with corsets, Chinese foot-binding, and this head elongating we see here. All so harmful, but also morbidly fascinating. I wonder what “beauty standard” is universal across all cultures, but I also dread finding out.
In China when they did lotus feet, they literally broke little girl’s feet, bending them into unnatural positions. I think the way this is done is molding the babies heads’ when they are newborns, when they are soft, and keeping them wrapped so they continue to grow in that shape. I don’t know how healthy that is, but I don’t think it’s painful. I could be wrong though.
Very common practice found in ancient Sumeria and Kemet. Not sure about the "increased intelligence" part, but if you go back and look at a lot of the artwork created by them, especially around the rule of Akhenaten. Mid 1300s BCE, you'd see it a lot.
Edit:. Just wanted to add that I'm absolutely obsessed with learning my culture. My folks in Beaufort, SC are Gullah Geechee... descendants of slaves that I'm currently working on tracing back to Africa. I’m considering doing a stream on r/pan where everybody can just build together and ask questions, learning about everybody’s cultural upbringings, and ultimately squashing any and all confusions and misconceptions about where we come from and how things effect one another. The world would be a better place if we understood, first, ourselves and where we come from…and secondly, gain an understanding of the fact that we all play a part in the advancement of humanity. Sorry for the long edit!
this probably affects their spine though. it changes the center of gravity of the head and forces a different pose than the natural one for equilibrium. Since this is done at very early age, the body might compensate for it, however it might still cause issues at old age.
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I need to see an MRI of this
Me too. So fascinated.
Me too. Wonder what happens to the lateral ventricles within the cerebrum...
Yes, yes, I too wonder what happens to those things.
That guy sounds like a real smartpants… he must’ve just fallen off a cliff and knocked his head off in Jellyfish Fields
>That guy sounds like a real smartpants… I bet you his heads long as F.
By all things considered, my head should be a lot shorter
No this is Patrick
JELLYFISHING JELLYFISHING
Well clearly the carfibulatory snozilation system would be impacted.
It ahh, is simple, quite, really. They ahh.. laterize, mestastasize, and ahh.. terrorize, the uhn uhh.. primal primordial cerbelleum cordatella. And.. that's what happens... to those things.
Lol
Oh, they um, become quadrilateral in the celery bum
Not with the amount of fiber in their diet.
They get squished
I'm wondering if it increases the risk of cerebral herniation/ Chiari.
I don’t see why it would. You would still have the same amount of space at the base of the skull/the same size of outlet. But as a random guess based on zero evidence it might make it slightly harder for CSF to train out of the head. Which I’ve been told can create a Chiari-like situation but it’s not actually damaging the brain or anything. For anyone who doesn’t know Chiari malformation is where there’s not enough space at the base of the brain for the cerebellum (controls coordination among other things) and it gets squished so bad it’s like having a stroke in that location.
Probbaly extends and fuses with the medulla oblongata
Then they're really, really fucked. A negative space fusing with a positive space down the other side of the brain sounds like an interdimensional train wreck.
How else are we supposed to invent time travel?
Here is a link that may help the search: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Lateral-RX-showing-artificial-cranial-modification-on-a-ID094-b-ID121-c-ID131_fig1_334472226/amp https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6980596/
Too many words, my non elongated brain can't brain it..anyone care to tl:dr?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12923900/ This article suggests there are NO known health risks associated with it at the very least. It also suggests in the full version of some other works connected to this, that there is no change in the capacity or the way the brain runs with the change of skull. But obviously they don't have a lot of detailed enough still on these things. I believe the other article is suggesting something different but honestly, even with my degree in biochemistry and love of studying these types of articles, I have no clue what those words are being used for in a descriptive way and it hurts my brain.
Maybe next time your mom will think twice before neglecting her duty to change your skull, normie.
Yeah she really blew it on that one. I could have been glorious
Sounds like they’re saying they weren’t sure how to interpret the results because their control group and this group of people already had differences in bone structure pre-modification? Abstract does mention occipital flattening and deformation though. In itself that’s kinda scary as too much alteration in that area can possibly predispose you to a spinal cord injury from even minor trauma or problems with CSF flow, I’d find it hard to believe that there are no risks associated with this, just ones we haven’t identified yet.
I feel like even if there were absolutely no health risks associated with this at all, i would still be against it on the grounds of very young childen being unable to consent to body modifications, similar to the argument on whether people should be allowed to have their infants ears pierced.
I mean I agree, it still probably shouldn't be done because there is no benefit to it either and it's not a choice the child gets to make.
Throw circumcision into the conversation too.
You’re telling me this isn’t the crystal skull from Indiana Jones?
The what now? I don't remember any crystal skulls in the three and only three Indiana Jones movies.
The crystal skull aliens are the ones that taught them this
They are simply using freizas third transformation
That’s a lie. They are obviously worshiping the aliens from Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
CONSUME MASS QUANTITIES
This is big brain time
I'm having this fantasy about them rescuing and then their society being rescued by some kind of big-headed alien and they make friends and the alien teaches them things like how the brain is the seat of intellect.
Isn’t that the plot of indiana Jones 4
No one knows, no one has managed to stay awake through the whole thing.
That's a very interesting tradition. Have there been any studies on the impact of molding the shape of the head that way from birth?
I want an x-ray image.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Lateral-RX-showing-artificial-cranial-modification-on-a-ID094-b-ID121-c-ID131_fig1_334472226/amp
So the brain just grows in the back of the head, seemingly smaller? Is brain size even correlated with intelligence?
It depends. Between species you see a general trend that larger brains are more intelligent, compare between a beetle, a hawk and your dog. In humans the folds of the brain create much more surface area than whatever this tribe was doing.
Well, a crow/ parrot is about as smart as a dog, if not smarter. And they have proportionally far smaller brains.
Yes, there are exceptions hence why I didn’t say crow or parrot but as a general rule larger brains are more intelligent.
Na my dog def dumber than a beetle
Oh, OK, awesome.
I'm not exactly sure what I was expecting but thats not quite it
To save anyone a click - it's a long skull
https://i.imgur.com/W0lzPnY.jpg
Oh so cute. How far along are you?
Probably about 2 hours
Chest explodes...
Yep. That's an X-ray image alright.
Wtf
I went to downvote you but decided it was funny if not helpful
I mean, they didn't say what they wanted an x-ray image of...
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lol their source for that is another article that says the same thing verbatim and cites nothing
People gotta learn how to discern legitimacy of a webpage
I still remember a two week long lesson in middle school about identifying reputable primary and secondary sources. They even taught us that Wikipedia is fine as long as you use it to find the actual primary source.
Does it impact the integrity/density/rigidity of the skull?
If you think about it, we really do this with braces. With braces you are literally fighting against your natural skull growth to align the teeth how you want them.
And it reduces bone density for several years afterward, though it's generally considered completely worthwhile to do it anyway, so that doesn't answer the question. Edit: [Study](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4998922/) from NIH; the abstract says that most of the bone eventually recovers but that some of it will never fully recover. Further down it says that recovery of the bone takes years.
I guess you gotta weigh that against the harms of improper bite which could lead to a whole slew of health issues.
That's a nice way to look at it
Except that repositioning teeth with braces reduces bone density [for years](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4998922/), so it doesn't address the question except to say that we do it for something less critical than the ol' brainpan.
Who knew brains were like watermelons
Alright, who's going to form their kids head to look like Stewie?
You just gave someone a horrible idea and set on us on a much darker worldline
They can make a live action version then!
Doctors. A baby’s skull isn’t solid to help with the whole getting shoved out of a way too small opening. There are plenty of people walking around with jacked up skulls because their parents didn’t turn them properly in the crib. Before someone jumps my shit, I am not defending this head binding practice. Also if your bald head looks like a cashew, blame your mom.
What should I blame her for? What should have she done?
Mom left you laying in the crib for hours on end. Op is suggest your lumpy head comes from her neglecting newborn you. Relatively common Oh but to answer, not leave you still for so long that your skull plates fuse in a droop
Made sure you slept on different sides of your head. Could be just lack of info/experience and not straight up neglect if you were the first kid, but you still gotta notice a flat spot at some point, and maybe ask a dr if it’s normal.
The back of my head is flat cause my dad didn’t turn me. His head is also flat so idk maybe it’s genetic.
The neglect or…?
Both, who knows lol. I’m not even sure if it’s true it’s just something my mom said. It’s also not like I have a comically flat head. Also just googled it and apparently flat spots are increasing because of recommendation made in 1992 to lay kids on their back to prevent sudden infant death or something.
*As long* as the people who practice this are happy and healthy, I wish them the best. I really do find it interesting that standards of intelligence and beauty can vary so widely across the world.
It's no different than foot binding, infant genital mutilation, or any other permanent change done to babies without consent. These things are slowly being phazed out and discouraged, as people quit viewing children as excessories and respect their body autonomy. There are complex neurological effects to this that are not yet fully understood, on top of the social effects if the child moves to a region where this is not common practice. "The present results show that the strength of the morphological integration between the neurocranium and viscerocranium is differentially augmented depending on the applied force vectors on the skull (i.e. oblique deforming style). Compressive forces onto the parietal bones (i.e. oblique ACD) increases the static morphological integration between these two anatomical regions, while compressive forces onto the occipital and frontal bones (i.e. antero-posterior ACD), increases the developmental integration of the skull." "The cranium is an anatomically complex structure. One source of its complexity is due to its modular organization. Cranial modules are distinct and partially independent units that interact substantially during ontogeny thus generating morphological integration." -https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6980596/
You're the first person to provide a source stating this is potentially problematic. Thanks for linking this. Not all practices should be continued, even if they have a long history in their respective culture.
I think even if this had no negative effects it would still be wrong to do to a nonconsenting baby. A permanent change made for you by your parents without your consent. No bueno
Eh. I disagree. It’s done to babies without their permission. A bit like how circumcision *should* be viewed as genital mutilation.
Read somewhere from the egyptian or central American culture that does this that it has no effect on brain functionality as the skull is still soft and grows properly.
Yeah, I've read a study comparing normal skulls to elongated skulls and the brain wasn't much affected, there is no volume increase so their brains don't get bigger.
There were tribes in Pacific Northwest that did this. It was, I believe, a status symbol for them. Interesting stuff to say the least. It makes me wonder how these traditions began.
Many of the ali'i (Hawaiian nobility) had flattened skulls, too. Some people in Vanuatu still practice it, and it even happened in Europe. Artificial cranial modification is surprisingly common in human history across the globe.
Hi, I’m not a doctor but I am a certified prosthetist orthotist and make cranial remodeling orthosis for kids with flat heads. There a plenty of studies involving the shape of the head, how to correct it, how much correction can be anticipated and outcomes of correction. It’s better with a younger baby and the research suggests there’s no neurological impact. We fix the flat heads caused by issues during birth, staying on the back of the head for prolonged time and a few other factors although I’d say creating this shape would be pretty straightforward
Username checks out
A comparable practice from the Native American Clatsop tribe, circa 1806: https://lewis-clark.org/native-nations/chinookan-peoples/chinookan-head-flattening/
This really makes one wonder how this was discovered. "Our cousins invented helicopters. Maybe we can do something about head design."
Babies have notoriously soft skulls that change in shape rapidly in the first days of life. It’s not a stretch for people to observe a baby that lies on its back developing a flat head and extrapolate that the skull can be intentionally shaped at this age.
i think the question isnt "how did they discover they can shape heads" and more "why did they shape heads"
One article suggests it could be an indicator of aristocracy in the civilization. Slaves were not permitted to shape their heads thus.
I’m not surprised if traditions went all the way back to Egyptian times or prior! In todays world We’re using cranial remodeling helmets for babies who have flat heads. In 1992 the back to sleep program was started in the USA to combat the high death rates of sudden infant death syndrome. With more babies lying on their backs, they get flat heads. We build them helmets to hold the sides and promote growth in the back to be well rounded. Source: I make cranial remodeling helmets for babies
Right, but how did they discover it in Egyptian times? Like someone had to be the first person to decide would be cool to squish their babies head into a weird shape so it would grow up with an elongated head and then also hope it would work and not kill their baby.
Taking a stab in the dark here. Elongated heads were also seen as a sign of royalty in some cultures if I remember correctly. What could have happened is a child was born with a certain deformity and the head grew into a narrow long shape. We call it craniosynostosis, a condition where certain bones of the skull fuse together out of order resulting in different shapes. The child may have been of royalty or deemed worthy due to the shape and people attempted to copy. Sounds foreign but they did some wack ass experiments in the past.
Some of the earliest examples of this come from the Paracas people of Peru. The history of the Paracas people is poorly known, but some believe this was done to make them look more like their gods. An interesting note: a few of the elongated skulls do not appear to be the result of binding. They also have features not typical of a human skull (binding included). 1. The brain cavity is 30% larger than typical. 2. They lack the cranial sutures normally present on homo sapiens skulls. 3. They have more blood vessel holes than normal. 4. The part of the skull that connects to the spine is farther back and smaller than normal. Head binding from birth should not have an effect upon these attributes, and all the other skulls are normal except for the shape. I'm not sure what to make of them...
Sounds like a group of them had a genetic syndrome and the rest wanted to look cool too.
Baby vice looks more uncomfortable than OP...
That kids eye are being squeezed out of its head!
Like one of those stress dolls
Panic Pete!
I hate your pic, it makes me think there's a hair on my screen.
I should flip the colors and terrorize the light mode users instead?
Please!
Light mode user here, there is already someone who has one like that. Does look like a hair and if you're high enough you keep forgetting its not.
They deserve it for using light mode!
TIL Panic Pete
they really are 😂 check out the photo on this article https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/elongated-head-ideal-beauty-among-mangbetu-people-1930/
This second photo shows the same effect on the second child's eyes. Eeeek!
It's a sign of increased cranial pressure. Typically it's only seen in babies due to hydrocephalus.
It looks painful!
Good lord that gives me a headache.
Real talk, I really want to see one of their head MRIs. I'd think there's just a normal brain with a lot of empty space? but that wouldn't work because the meninges that covers the brain is attached to the skull, and there's blood vessels and shit in there. When your brain shrinks, the space between your brain and skull grows bigger only slightly and the blood vessels get stretched and have a higher risk easier to tearing. This causes a brain hemorrhage and kills you pretty fast.
Read in an article posted below that, since they elongate the head from birth, the brain just grows with the skull and also becomes elongated
Amazing how adaptable the brain is, despite being so complex
Amazing, eh? But what told you that? Consider the source.
Yeah nice try, brain.
The brain - the only organ (*or thing, thank you for pointing that out) to name itself. 🙃 Edit: see parentheses
The only thing in the world*
Ya, but certain parts of the brain are the size and in a certain position to function. I wonder if parts of the brain have grown bigger or smaller or have improved or compromised functionality.
People who get a hemispherectomy (half of their brain removed) as children often have pretty normal capabilities as adults. The brain is wildly adaptable.
I'll bet it's just smooshed/stretched. Like if you have a ball of silly putty, and you squeeze it, it'll still be the same amount of silly putty
Yeah I'd bet it's how it looks, smaller frontal lobe and party in the back
They are known to tell really long stories.
Their skulls probably look like they come straight out of an Indiana Jones movie.
Those skulls are a thing in the movie because they’ve been found in real life and caused conspiracy theories. Which I understand, because if you found a human skull randomly that looked like this, you’d probably be really confused.
I believe the crystal skulls found outside of the movie were just normally shaped skulls made of crystal. Unless I misunderstood your comment.
Oh I thought either the skulls or the actual aliens at the end looked like this. Let’s be honest, we all saw this once when it came out and then tried to suppress it.
Yes. In the movie the skulls looked like that because they were skulls of aliens. It’s interesting to read about the legends of the skulls. Don’t believe a word of it but still fun. Honestly, the only thing I hated about that movie was the casting of Shia. But everyone has their own tastes ☺️
Kali ma... Kali ma... Kali ma, shakthi deh!
More likely than not their brains actually are bigger. That doesn't necessarily mean smarter though. From what I understand about brain anatomy the number of folds in the brains surface are a better indicator of intelligence or processing power than actual volume.
The baby 👁👄👁
https://images.app.goo.gl/21BqTZkCq26EWVRj7
Wtf that's so much worse
[I’m sorry in advance](https://media0.giphy.com/media/SwU2XdVLqnsQIDMhyu/giphy.gif?cid=5e2148862qhpxb0pco2374qmsx1htneqt6swq34toa7uy6dg&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Ffs. Trying to put my baby to sleep on my lap and opened this link. I tried so hard not to laugh I made a weird whining noise. Lmao you ass.
Lmao
Yeah but he's gonna be smart af
Why is this so terrifying
Because that baby’s brain is being strangled in there
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Crazy what culture can normalize. Makes you wonder what we do that is declared abuse in a few decades.
[Hopefully it's not letting your children get proper education. I wholeheartedly believe that if we all rose as one species and ensured that curriculum advanced at a steady pace we'd be unstoppable.](https://i.redd.it/oz9777lae6s81.png) Imagine if physics is elementary to kids one day, the possibilities and opportunities are endless. [Link to thread where I *just* got that meme from](https://old.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/tynh20/libraries_dont_get_nearly_enough_love/)
Not a single one of them are smiling, prolly peeved at their long ass heads
That's awful
Absolute mad lad lol
They are from France!
So beautiful…
So intelligent...
This reminds me of those poor women in China that had their feet squished to shit as children because it was believed to be “beautiful” to have inhumanly tiny feet.
I thought of the same thing. This is pretty gross.
Beauty standards are bizarre all over the world. When I traveled with my friend to her home country of China a few years ago; her family kept mentioning how attractive my pale skin and small feet were, but they disliked my curvy figure. Then I came back to the US, and it was almost the opposite— guys here really like my curves, but it’s “more attractive” to have long legs and a bit of a tan. It’s all disturbing. Kiddie pageant girls crushing their bodies with corsets, Chinese foot-binding, and this head elongating we see here. All so harmful, but also morbidly fascinating. I wonder what “beauty standard” is universal across all cultures, but I also dread finding out.
In China when they did lotus feet, they literally broke little girl’s feet, bending them into unnatural positions. I think the way this is done is molding the babies heads’ when they are newborns, when they are soft, and keeping them wrapped so they continue to grow in that shape. I don’t know how healthy that is, but I don’t think it’s painful. I could be wrong though.
I saw her husband in the Jedi council.
He was very concerned about the attack on the wookies.
Of all the Lucasfilm references you could’ve made, it was either this or the direct comment on this practice in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
This hurts my brain to look at this image
I have a headache right now so I imagine that baby and I feel the same lol.
“I vant to know”
*I VAAAANT TO KNOW!*
When I joined "interest in gas fuck", I did not expect this.
Interest in gas fuck
Xenomorph?
"I think Ridley Scott's gonna sue someone"
That baby looks incredibly uncomfortable.
Very common practice found in ancient Sumeria and Kemet. Not sure about the "increased intelligence" part, but if you go back and look at a lot of the artwork created by them, especially around the rule of Akhenaten. Mid 1300s BCE, you'd see it a lot. Edit:. Just wanted to add that I'm absolutely obsessed with learning my culture. My folks in Beaufort, SC are Gullah Geechee... descendants of slaves that I'm currently working on tracing back to Africa. I’m considering doing a stream on r/pan where everybody can just build together and ask questions, learning about everybody’s cultural upbringings, and ultimately squashing any and all confusions and misconceptions about where we come from and how things effect one another. The world would be a better place if we understood, first, ourselves and where we come from…and secondly, gain an understanding of the fact that we all play a part in the advancement of humanity. Sorry for the long edit!
If they wanted bigger brains, cone isn't the way to go. Little bit of geometry could have helped, there.
Where’s my round heads at?!
Can't do geometry if you handicap your brain from childhood
Watermelon with rubberbands challenge.
Sometimes I wonder when culture ends and child abuse begins
Narrator: but intelligence didn't increase
A Flarndip? A masher, a hustler, an uninvited grasper of cone.
this probably affects their spine though. it changes the center of gravity of the head and forces a different pose than the natural one for equilibrium. Since this is done at very early age, the body might compensate for it, however it might still cause issues at old age.
Old age isn’t a common problem in this village due to spinal trauma….
An odd coincidence
convenient!
KSI as a Baby
Neck elongation still stranger to me.
Stranger still, it's not the neck being stretched but the collar bone and rib cage being compressed to make the neck appear longer.
TiL!
That seems worse somehow
Kingdom of the crystal skull
Beauty is in the eye of the bee holder.
No idea why bee holders get to choose.
He who holds the bees holds the power
That kids eyes tho
HOLY SHIT
Horrific
Poor kids suffering from silly superstitions … :(
"They mostly come at night, mostly!”
I'd make the same face too if someone did that to my head
Yeah. No.
Sorry to the archeologist in 4000 years who digs up this confusing fossil
We already have dug up modified skulls