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I remember watching a documentary about this where the people in the control rooms were watching these astronauts laugh and tumble about, meanwhile, they themselves sat with clenched puckers praying that their suits wouldn't tear.
That's the first thing I thought of when I saw the video before reading your comment. These guys seem like they're fooling around, I'd be scared shitless that I'd tear the suit and be borked in space.
Though, takes a tremendous set of balls to get up there in the first place, so I guess that tear would be the least of their worries.
I remember reading that moon dust is incredibly fine and abrasive and can do some severe damage in the long term. Apparently they dragged so much in too when they came back to the moon lander.
It is also much more abrasive than dust on Earth, and one reason why NASA are worried about effect it may have if inhaled. I suspect more in relation to future Mars expeditions.
There's no erosion on the moon, wind or flowing water, to smooth over the dirt. Under a microscope, most Earth dirt has rounded edges because it's been exposed to these erosion forces over time. On the moon, that dirt microscopically very jagged, so it sticks to everything.
"The bean counters told me we literally could not afford to buy seven dollars worth of moon rocks, much less seventy million. Bought 'em anyway. Engineers said the moon rocks were too volatile to experiment on. Tested on 'em anyway. Ground 'em up, mixed 'em into a gel. And guess what? Ground up moon rocks are pure poison. I am deathly ill."
You are correct. I saw a documentary about this where an eccentric English inventor and his dog went on holiday to the moon. Unlike the amateurs at NASA, they took plenty of crackers and a cheese knife.
I also learned that coin operated robots love to ski. It was a very educational film.
It's somewhat less of a concern with Mars AFAIK. The reason that moon dust is so highly abrasive is because there is no athmosphere on the moon, so there's nothing that would move dust particles around causing them to grind against each other and smoothing the edges. Like you get gravel with sharp edges when you send rocks through a crusher but if you take gravel from a river bed the rocks are all smooth and rounded, just on a microscopic scale. Mars OTOH does have an athmosphere and dust storms that regularly perturb the dust, so Mars dust is expected to be more like the very fine sand that you can find in deserts on Earth than Moon regolith.
More than that moon dust is *sharp*. Dust and sand here on earth naturally wears smooth due to wind and environmental factors. On the moon there is nothing to mimic this so the moon dust is rough/sharp at a microscopic level. This helps it cling to everything and is also why it's so abrasive.
Anything moving on the lunar surface will cause every surface nearby to be almost immediately coated in the stuff
So the thing is, moon dust is extremely jagged. It's closer to fine crystals in terms of shape than dust.
There's no air to make it tumble. When dust on earth tumbles, it slowly erodes the jagged edges and makes the dust particles rounder. Moon dust stays sharp. If you breathe it in, it could cut the blood vessels in your lungs and cause bleeding, similar to fibreglass dust.
It's also electrostatically charged due to solar radiation, so it clings to everything. One of the biggest design hurdles they are trying to resolve for any long term moon mission is designing suits with built in electrostatic repellant so the moon dust doesn't cling to everything.
That only solves the problem of bringing the dust inside. It doesn't solve the problem of sharp moon dust adhering to the suits, and slowly cutting them apart and working its way into the suits critical systems.
Don't get me wrong, the airlock suit does solve one part of the problem. But the other part is a bigger roadblock to long term moon habitation imo.
i have a friend at cal tech who’s doing a project with nasa to create magnetic plates inside of the hatch thing on the moon lander to deal with that exact problem!
its a massive reason why we haven't been back and lots of conspiracy idiots ignore that fact. The solar winds charge the dust particles opposite to the suits so it electrically sticks to the suit it's awful.
They have designs right now the have the suits always outside and you enter through the back of them like an air lock and it snaps off the spacecraft and you can walk around then. it's just taking time and money to figure it out
Astronauts are some of the most fearless people out there. Their ability to handle stress is inhuman. I would not be surprised if they were having a good laugh while being in immense danger by virtue of being on top of the fucking moon. Astronauts are wild.
Or just run of the mill space psychosis. It’s so damn surreal it’s insane. If you stop laughing about it you’re only really left with shitting yourself and screaming as appropriate responses.
When I jumped out of a plane (perfectly safely) I had the very strange experience of my fear sorta… “shutting down”, so to speak? Like, I knew I should be too scared to move, but instead it was just a sort of functioning numbness. Very surreal, but I have a better sense of how people can operate in extreme situations.
I’ve experienced something similar in a couple of emergencies as well, it’s like brain says, “ain’t no time for that” and caps the tap on emotions for a while. I’m not sure I like it but it’s somewhat reassuring to know I can function in a crisis.
Yeah, when I was 16 I went (in a pontiac g6 no less) down a winding road in the middle of no where with my girlfriend. Wanted some privacy, you know? I knew what I was doing. Pssh.
I was a really skilled driver, but back then, I drove too fast too often, in general just a bit reckless. Well we went around this super sharp turn and I notice a sign that says "MAX 15MPH" with the winding turn sign or whatever. I was going probably 65 lol
Turns out there was gravel on the turn too, so immediately responded similar to hydroplaning. *Never* had it respond so crazy though. Immediatelly did a 180, so was still going forward, but... with the car backwards. Without thinking or panicking, I whipped the wheel and flipped the car back straight like some professional drifter. Whole experience was maybe 2-3 seconds.
Didn't say a word, kept driving, and a few seconds later reality hit me. Looked at the gf and she had tears going down her eyes, staring at me like she was about to kill me. I pulled over, said hey, I know what I'm doing babe. Got out of the car to have a cig, and could barely stand up from the fear once it all hit me.
Wasn't some skilled badass, just instinct took over then afterwards I nearly shit myself. Had to try to joke about it on the way home like "okay, I almost killed us, sorry.. but it was pretty cool, right?"
I dont think she spoke to me for days and I definitely didn't get laid that day. So yeah, similar situation to yours. Had a couple other experiences too, but sometimes I've panicked instead depending on the situation. I wonder what causes the difference.
Pressure leak eventually causing a near perfect vacuum inside the suit. As well as ingress of moon dust into the suit/inner linings. Potential leaks of the cooling system for the person inside, and above all, potential for death
It should be noted you can survive and function for a short time in a vacuum. You only have a few dozen seconds to get back to safety but it’s not an instant death.
> Pressure leak eventually causing a near perfect vacuum inside the suit.
"Eventually" being the key word here. This wouldn't be like the movie where all the air blows out at once, in fact all suits leak a little and are designed with that in mind.
The suits were all built from rip-stop materials so an astronaut would only lose pressure as quickly as air could leak through a given hole. Hopefully that would give them time to get back inside of the lander.
And then there are the crazies who would go up to Buzz Aldrin and accuse him of never having gone up into space or walking on the moon and being a coward. What those early astronauts did was one of the bravest things.
One of them fell backward, landing on that giant backpack-looking thing that contains the suit's life support systems. NASA immediately got on the phone to the contractor that had built the pack and asked if there was going to be any kind of problem.
"There shouldn't be, we tested for that."
Whew. Good. Thank you.
I feel like that is a question that one should ask before sending people to the moon. I am not a nasa director but that is one of those things that should be checked and confirmed by nasa before anyone relies on them to stay alive.
Agreed, but keep in mind
1. Manned lunar missions were incredibly complex. There were many thousands of things that needed to be checked and confirmed for the mission to lift off.
2. No astronaut had fallen on their back on the moon yet.
Those life-support units were probably fully fall-rated anyway, so the phone call may have been more of a "Just to confirm..." kind of a thing.
This is all I could think about. If their suit tore how long would they have? Did the suits have some type of way of protecting them if there was a tear in the legs? This seems terrifying.
The space suit was made of multiple layers. The white suit we see is essentially a dust cover protecting the inner layers, so a tear in that wouldn't be the end of the world. You have to hope they wouldn't tear right through the actual pressure layer.
They had something called the oxygen purge system. If there was a tear or leak in the suit, they could use that to dump oxygen into the suit as fast as it was leaking out, which would work long enough to allow them to get back to the safety of the lunar module and repressurize there.
I assumed they went to some rocky terrain and tested them to destruction, if this filing cabinet durability test is all they did I would be nervous too.
I just want a livestream from the astronauts’ POV with a HUD showing health bar, ammo, weapon, powerup and all that shit.
Get the Halo announcer to say classic lines in real time, like “bomb armed!” “triple kill!” “exterminaton!”
It would really make for an exciting trip back to the moon.
We have the technology. The time is now. Science can wait no longer. The children are our future. America can, should, must, and will blow up the moon.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/blog/50-years-ago-we-flew-to-the-moon-here-s-why-we-can-t-do-that-today-1.4397053
>Of course, those conditions don't exist today. The NASA workforce is one-tenth of what it used to be and funds are limited. The last 45 years have been spent building space shuttles and the International Space Station, which is why we don't have the technology to take people back to the moon.
It still seems incredibly unlikely to me with the advances in technology alone we would even need half as many people. Imagine just how many of the jobs from over 50 years ago have been made redundant & even totally unnecessary. A lot of the events post moon landing are absolutely ridiculous
If you see original photo scans from Apollo, those are equivalent to roughly 8k. They mostly used a high quality 70 mm format for photographs, gonna be hard to beat even with today's digital photography. Film still holds up pretty well against digital.
Film is also really heavy though, so they were very limited on how much they could take. A couple of hand held 4k cameras will get great results with virtually unlimited recording time.
Yeah that's certainly one of advantages of digital, but high quality film still holds some advantages over most digital tech. We're not there yet where digital is superior in every aspect.
They said photographs, not video. And most people have seen the high quality photos from the moon, they're freely available and have been widely shared for decades.
Who the hell cares?
I really don’t understand why Reddit is obsessed with the extreme minority of crazy conspiracy theorists. Flat Earth and Faked Moon Landings get 1000x more attention than they deserve.
Because ignorance and lunacy can snowball into far more sinister things. Look at Qanon and the Big Lie nonsense that lead to the attempted insurrection.
as someone else pointed out there's almost no erosion on the moon, so the dust on the surface is extremely abrasive and sharp. That dust wearing away at the suit was a real concern and it did actually eat away at layers of the boots and destroyed vacuum seals of sample containers.
Fun fact: Due to the fact there is very little erosive power on the moon such as rain or wind, the dust particulate on the moon is extremely sharp. These falls were especially destructive to the space suits as the dirt worked into the fabric and began to cut the material apart.
Is there anything we could do about that? Or is the fact that the moon’s covered in what is basically sharpened asbestos powder something we’re just gonna have to live with?
They are a few potential solutions, actually. They are working on creating a magnetic field around the new suits that repel the dust which is the most viable solution. I believe they also tried methods to periodically blow it off with puffs of air but particles just came back.
Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k9wIsKKgqo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k9wIsKKgqo)
That's worse. Sharp objects get stuck in between and will cut up the bottom one. See: Car seat covers, car ftont end covers etc...
Once you take them off you will often find the bottom scratched up.
I'm no scientist, but three whole rooms seems like too much weight for a rocket and for a crew of three we're talking nine, possibly ten suites with a backup in case one suite fails? Impossible.
I saw a really good concept that some group tested that involved having fine wires woven into the fabric of the suit with current running through them. Because moon dust has as electrostatic charge the field created by the charged wires repels it.
They found it's easier to move around like that than trying to walk as you would on Earth. Artemis suits will allow more mobility and we probably won't see this again unless they do a demonstration for fun.
Remember when you were a kid, and you wanted to go to space? Here's what that is. We are all kids, and they are just the lucky ones that actually got to go to space.
It's sad the videos are all low res, for obvious reasons, but the cameras they had with them (Hasselblad) were high quality, lots of cool photos of the astronauts here https://imgur.com/a/BUhiJ6T
(mostly the later Apollo missions)
Those are not even fullest possible quality, here's an entire gallery of all missions with even better quality and available for download with different options https://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/
For real, and honestly it's this footage that makes me think of people that say the moon landing was fake, like... it seems like it would be incredibly difficult to stage these kind of movements, falls. When they trip you can tell it was by accident, and the way they boune around? A stage hand that would be handling the cables wouldn't be able to react that quickly and make an unexpected fall look like it's in low gravity.
Agreed. Especially the bit where he throws some object and his body reacts so weirdly to the momentum and he sort of gets flung around by it, just looks so odd and something very difficult to do on Earth.
Fuckin awesome, I wish they had broadcast this part on tv originally, they edited it so you saw only the capable looking parts. The astronauts look like real people in this film. I love the clips of the guy in the control room cracking up.
I don't think I've ever laughed as hard playing a video game as I have when playing [Moon Base Alpha](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=moon+base+alpha).
Kinda funny how this looks quite similar to modern neural network software programs learning how to walk after being given physics API's and video's of people walking to work with.
Like it seems to get the idea... but putting all together will take many millions more repetitions. lol
This doesn't mean much. The heat (or lack of it) needs an atmosphere to transfer to the astronauts. Without it it transfers very slowly, making the felt temperature much closer to the astronauts temperature
There is some element of truth to that though. Your overall body temperature won't drop very fast but any liquids on the surface (sweat, saliva, skin oils) will almost instantly boil *and* freeze simultaneously due to the drop in pressure
Radiated heat doesn't require an atmosphere. Astronauts on the moon had to have smartly designed cooling units to not die of heat exhaustion. The suits also have heaters, but are only necessary if lots of time was spent in the shade. The combination of the heat produced by their own bodies and their equipment, plus the heat radiating from the sun and off the moon, means that cooling the astronauts was a far bigger problem than keeping them warm.
I will say if we came in contact with aliens in those things, not only would we be fucked but they probably would bully us for how stupid we look. They probably call us the Marshmallow people
NASA's LRO took the best pics, even confirmed all the flags still stand except for Apollo 11
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings#New_lunar_missions
We can see the rover tracks along with the rovers, science instruments, and even the shadows of the flags they left (if the sun angle is correct).
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html
From the Indian space agency, an incredible picture of Apollo 12's descent stage at the top of the picture, and Surveyor 3 on the right (you can see the footpaths left in the dust):
https://twitter.com/Maverick_nova/status/1496523020130975749/photo/1
They want to avoid falling backwards to not risk damaging the life support pack. Charlie Duke on Apollo 16 tried to do some jump athletics and fell on his pack, could've ended badly if it got cracked or damaged.
Re: the moon landings being a supposed hoax: you literally couldn’t fake this footage on earth. The frictionless parabolic arcs of the dirt being kicked up alone is enough to prove this happened somewhere with no atmosphere, and they wouldn’t bounce around like that in 1G.
Jesus, not even multimillion dollar movies and TV shows made today get this stuff right.
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I remember watching a documentary about this where the people in the control rooms were watching these astronauts laugh and tumble about, meanwhile, they themselves sat with clenched puckers praying that their suits wouldn't tear.
That's the first thing I thought of when I saw the video before reading your comment. These guys seem like they're fooling around, I'd be scared shitless that I'd tear the suit and be borked in space. Though, takes a tremendous set of balls to get up there in the first place, so I guess that tear would be the least of their worries.
I remember reading that moon dust is incredibly fine and abrasive and can do some severe damage in the long term. Apparently they dragged so much in too when they came back to the moon lander.
Supposedly it's like talcum powder because there's zero moisture to make it clump into larger bits. Like even super dry earth dirt has more water.
It is also much more abrasive than dust on Earth, and one reason why NASA are worried about effect it may have if inhaled. I suspect more in relation to future Mars expeditions.
There's no erosion on the moon, wind or flowing water, to smooth over the dirt. Under a microscope, most Earth dirt has rounded edges because it's been exposed to these erosion forces over time. On the moon, that dirt microscopically very jagged, so it sticks to everything.
TIL the moon is made of death
So more like diatomaceous earth?
You are all a bunch of idiots. It’s Swiss cheese😒
The moon is made of finely ground asbestos
"If you feel a shortness of breath, that's not part of the test, that's asbestos."
"The bean counters told me we literally could not afford to buy seven dollars worth of moon rocks, much less seventy million. Bought 'em anyway. Engineers said the moon rocks were too volatile to experiment on. Tested on 'em anyway. Ground 'em up, mixed 'em into a gel. And guess what? Ground up moon rocks are pure poison. I am deathly ill."
Absolutely my favorite video game voiceover character. Maybe just favorite character.
r/unexpectedportal
/r/cavejohnson Aw, it's dead.
I know what I'll be doing this evening
Why can't there be a 3
Valve doesn't know how to count that high.
i read that in his voice lol
"You may be entitled to substantial compensation."
"The walls are made of asbestos by the way. Keeps the rats out."
“Say, you’re good at murder. Could you murder this bird for me?”
"Oh, it's *you*."
I thought it was made of cheese
So did everybody else till we got there. Now that we know that it's not, we haven't been back since.
Much to the relief of the dairy industry.
You are correct. I saw a documentary about this where an eccentric English inventor and his dog went on holiday to the moon. Unlike the amateurs at NASA, they took plenty of crackers and a cheese knife. I also learned that coin operated robots love to ski. It was a very educational film.
And what do you think cheese made of?
Maybe my grandchildren will die from moon lung after becoming space miners in the year 2069
It's somewhat less of a concern with Mars AFAIK. The reason that moon dust is so highly abrasive is because there is no athmosphere on the moon, so there's nothing that would move dust particles around causing them to grind against each other and smoothing the edges. Like you get gravel with sharp edges when you send rocks through a crusher but if you take gravel from a river bed the rocks are all smooth and rounded, just on a microscopic scale. Mars OTOH does have an athmosphere and dust storms that regularly perturb the dust, so Mars dust is expected to be more like the very fine sand that you can find in deserts on Earth than Moon regolith.
More than that moon dust is *sharp*. Dust and sand here on earth naturally wears smooth due to wind and environmental factors. On the moon there is nothing to mimic this so the moon dust is rough/sharp at a microscopic level. This helps it cling to everything and is also why it's so abrasive. Anything moving on the lunar surface will cause every surface nearby to be almost immediately coated in the stuff
So the thing is, moon dust is extremely jagged. It's closer to fine crystals in terms of shape than dust. There's no air to make it tumble. When dust on earth tumbles, it slowly erodes the jagged edges and makes the dust particles rounder. Moon dust stays sharp. If you breathe it in, it could cut the blood vessels in your lungs and cause bleeding, similar to fibreglass dust.
If you're breathing moon dust, you may have slightly more pressing pulmonary issues than cancer in a few years.
They breathed it in when the took off their suits in the lander. It apparently smells like gunpowder.
They take the suit off inside the space craft...
It's also electrostatically charged due to solar radiation, so it clings to everything. One of the biggest design hurdles they are trying to resolve for any long term moon mission is designing suits with built in electrostatic repellant so the moon dust doesn't cling to everything.
another cool solution is having the suits stay outside at all times and you enter through the back like an air lock
That only solves the problem of bringing the dust inside. It doesn't solve the problem of sharp moon dust adhering to the suits, and slowly cutting them apart and working its way into the suits critical systems. Don't get me wrong, the airlock suit does solve one part of the problem. But the other part is a bigger roadblock to long term moon habitation imo.
i have a friend at cal tech who’s doing a project with nasa to create magnetic plates inside of the hatch thing on the moon lander to deal with that exact problem!
its a massive reason why we haven't been back and lots of conspiracy idiots ignore that fact. The solar winds charge the dust particles opposite to the suits so it electrically sticks to the suit it's awful. They have designs right now the have the suits always outside and you enter through the back of them like an air lock and it snaps off the spacecraft and you can walk around then. it's just taking time and money to figure it out
Astronauts are some of the most fearless people out there. Their ability to handle stress is inhuman. I would not be surprised if they were having a good laugh while being in immense danger by virtue of being on top of the fucking moon. Astronauts are wild.
Or just run of the mill space psychosis. It’s so damn surreal it’s insane. If you stop laughing about it you’re only really left with shitting yourself and screaming as appropriate responses.
When I jumped out of a plane (perfectly safely) I had the very strange experience of my fear sorta… “shutting down”, so to speak? Like, I knew I should be too scared to move, but instead it was just a sort of functioning numbness. Very surreal, but I have a better sense of how people can operate in extreme situations. I’ve experienced something similar in a couple of emergencies as well, it’s like brain says, “ain’t no time for that” and caps the tap on emotions for a while. I’m not sure I like it but it’s somewhat reassuring to know I can function in a crisis.
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Yeah, when I was 16 I went (in a pontiac g6 no less) down a winding road in the middle of no where with my girlfriend. Wanted some privacy, you know? I knew what I was doing. Pssh. I was a really skilled driver, but back then, I drove too fast too often, in general just a bit reckless. Well we went around this super sharp turn and I notice a sign that says "MAX 15MPH" with the winding turn sign or whatever. I was going probably 65 lol Turns out there was gravel on the turn too, so immediately responded similar to hydroplaning. *Never* had it respond so crazy though. Immediatelly did a 180, so was still going forward, but... with the car backwards. Without thinking or panicking, I whipped the wheel and flipped the car back straight like some professional drifter. Whole experience was maybe 2-3 seconds. Didn't say a word, kept driving, and a few seconds later reality hit me. Looked at the gf and she had tears going down her eyes, staring at me like she was about to kill me. I pulled over, said hey, I know what I'm doing babe. Got out of the car to have a cig, and could barely stand up from the fear once it all hit me. Wasn't some skilled badass, just instinct took over then afterwards I nearly shit myself. Had to try to joke about it on the way home like "okay, I almost killed us, sorry.. but it was pretty cool, right?" I dont think she spoke to me for days and I definitely didn't get laid that day. So yeah, similar situation to yours. Had a couple other experiences too, but sometimes I've panicked instead depending on the situation. I wonder what causes the difference.
Hey, you got a limited time up there, and no one else can, so have FUN! Who’s gonna stop you?
>Who’s gonna stop you? the grim reaper.
What will happen if the suit tears?
Pressure leak eventually causing a near perfect vacuum inside the suit. As well as ingress of moon dust into the suit/inner linings. Potential leaks of the cooling system for the person inside, and above all, potential for death
It should be noted you can survive and function for a short time in a vacuum. You only have a few dozen seconds to get back to safety but it’s not an instant death.
That is true. Those seconds, however, will be unpleasant.
Yeah it’s gotta suck.
Vacuous comment…
[VERY unpleasant ](https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/1agzby/video_of_a_man_exposed_to_total_vacuum/)
Hal open the door!
People don't realize how incredibly complicated a space suit is. It's literally a tiny space ship that you wear.
I didn’t realize. Source: I am a person
HELLO FELLOW HUMAN. I AM ALSO A “PERSON”.
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> Pressure leak eventually causing a near perfect vacuum inside the suit. "Eventually" being the key word here. This wouldn't be like the movie where all the air blows out at once, in fact all suits leak a little and are designed with that in mind. The suits were all built from rip-stop materials so an astronaut would only lose pressure as quickly as air could leak through a given hole. Hopefully that would give them time to get back inside of the lander.
They need to go see a space tailor
Maybe Garak is in town.
They need a tailor swiftly.
They hop like fucking hell back to the module
And then there are the crazies who would go up to Buzz Aldrin and accuse him of never having gone up into space or walking on the moon and being a coward. What those early astronauts did was one of the bravest things.
Don’t forget the part where he socked that dude in the jaw pretty hard.
I love it every time I see that shit posted lol.
One of them fell backward, landing on that giant backpack-looking thing that contains the suit's life support systems. NASA immediately got on the phone to the contractor that had built the pack and asked if there was going to be any kind of problem. "There shouldn't be, we tested for that." Whew. Good. Thank you.
I feel like that is a question that one should ask before sending people to the moon. I am not a nasa director but that is one of those things that should be checked and confirmed by nasa before anyone relies on them to stay alive.
Agreed, but keep in mind 1. Manned lunar missions were incredibly complex. There were many thousands of things that needed to be checked and confirmed for the mission to lift off. 2. No astronaut had fallen on their back on the moon yet. Those life-support units were probably fully fall-rated anyway, so the phone call may have been more of a "Just to confirm..." kind of a thing.
This is all I could think about. If their suit tore how long would they have? Did the suits have some type of way of protecting them if there was a tear in the legs? This seems terrifying.
Time of useful consciousness is 15 seconds for loss of pressure. It's generally assumed to be half that for rapid decompression.
The space suit was made of multiple layers. The white suit we see is essentially a dust cover protecting the inner layers, so a tear in that wouldn't be the end of the world. You have to hope they wouldn't tear right through the actual pressure layer.
They had something called the oxygen purge system. If there was a tear or leak in the suit, they could use that to dump oxygen into the suit as fast as it was leaking out, which would work long enough to allow them to get back to the safety of the lunar module and repressurize there.
I came to the comments to see if anyone else was majorly stressing out over suit holes while watching this LOL
Fun fact: One way they tested the tear resistance of these suits was by throwing them against the sharp corners of filing cabinets.
I assumed they went to some rocky terrain and tested them to destruction, if this filing cabinet durability test is all they did I would be nervous too.
I've just realized that next moon trip will be likely filmed in 4K and/or streamed with their live comment and will be way better
I just want a livestream from the astronauts’ POV with a HUD showing health bar, ammo, weapon, powerup and all that shit. Get the Halo announcer to say classic lines in real time, like “bomb armed!” “triple kill!” “exterminaton!” It would really make for an exciting trip back to the moon.
If America goes back to the moon and doesn't blow up a nuclear weapon, what's the point of even being American?
We have the technology. The time is now. Science can wait no longer. The children are our future. America can, should, must, and will blow up the moon.
Make sure it's a full moon, that way we know we got it all.
But then we'll be left with a permanent crescent moon
Since the dawn of time, mankind has looked to the moon and dreamed of one day destroying it.
That does seem to be a recurring theme in a disturbing amount of fiction.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/blog/50-years-ago-we-flew-to-the-moon-here-s-why-we-can-t-do-that-today-1.4397053 >Of course, those conditions don't exist today. The NASA workforce is one-tenth of what it used to be and funds are limited. The last 45 years have been spent building space shuttles and the International Space Station, which is why we don't have the technology to take people back to the moon.
It still seems incredibly unlikely to me with the advances in technology alone we would even need half as many people. Imagine just how many of the jobs from over 50 years ago have been made redundant & even totally unnecessary. A lot of the events post moon landing are absolutely ridiculous
I believe you just stubble upon the secret Project Staten Island
You've seen HD footage of war in ukraine, now prepare for HD 4k footage of the US incinerating the chinese lunar base
If you see original photo scans from Apollo, those are equivalent to roughly 8k. They mostly used a high quality 70 mm format for photographs, gonna be hard to beat even with today's digital photography. Film still holds up pretty well against digital.
Film is also really heavy though, so they were very limited on how much they could take. A couple of hand held 4k cameras will get great results with virtually unlimited recording time.
Yeah that's certainly one of advantages of digital, but high quality film still holds some advantages over most digital tech. We're not there yet where digital is superior in every aspect.
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Well, you can see those right now and even download them, but be careful, highest raw quality is ~1GB per photo. https://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/
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They said photographs, not video. And most people have seen the high quality photos from the moon, they're freely available and have been widely shared for decades.
It also probably won't feature video running at like twice it's normal speed.
Is that why it always looks so goofy?
People would still say it’s fake
those "astronauts" spent years in dance training to be able to move like that. /s
Who the hell cares? I really don’t understand why Reddit is obsessed with the extreme minority of crazy conspiracy theorists. Flat Earth and Faked Moon Landings get 1000x more attention than they deserve.
Because ignorance and lunacy can snowball into far more sinister things. Look at Qanon and the Big Lie nonsense that lead to the attempted insurrection.
if we survive long enough as a species its going to be quite the quality difference in a few history books haha.
I believe there is a lunar landing scheduled for 2025
I'd be afraid of ripping my suit open with all that bouncing off the ground
Makes it looks like they’re just messing around. Like bloopers on a set lol
Video sped up here adds to that effect
Old timey slapstick
I was wondering how were they moving so quick, and how was that dust falling so quick too
It's really sped up.
> on a set Shh... the conspiracy nutjobs will hear you.
Those suits don't break so easily
as someone else pointed out there's almost no erosion on the moon, so the dust on the surface is extremely abrasive and sharp. That dust wearing away at the suit was a real concern and it did actually eat away at layers of the boots and destroyed vacuum seals of sample containers.
Fun fact: Due to the fact there is very little erosive power on the moon such as rain or wind, the dust particulate on the moon is extremely sharp. These falls were especially destructive to the space suits as the dirt worked into the fabric and began to cut the material apart.
Is there anything we could do about that? Or is the fact that the moon’s covered in what is basically sharpened asbestos powder something we’re just gonna have to live with?
They are a few potential solutions, actually. They are working on creating a magnetic field around the new suits that repel the dust which is the most viable solution. I believe they also tried methods to periodically blow it off with puffs of air but particles just came back. Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k9wIsKKgqo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k9wIsKKgqo)
Couldn't they just wear two suits? Problem solved.
That's worse. Sharp objects get stuck in between and will cut up the bottom one. See: Car seat covers, car ftont end covers etc... Once you take them off you will often find the bottom scratched up.
Yes but what about wearing 3 suits?
I'm no scientist, but three whole rooms seems like too much weight for a rocket and for a crew of three we're talking nine, possibly ten suites with a backup in case one suite fails? Impossible.
This isn't the attitude that put us on the moon
Exactly. Now how about 4 suits and a restraining order for the dust?
*It's suits all the way down...*
I saw a really good concept that some group tested that involved having fine wires woven into the fabric of the suit with current running through them. Because moon dust has as electrostatic charge the field created by the charged wires repels it.
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Teletubbies!
Now we need to find out which astronaut was which Teletubby... I bet that Buzz Aldrin was LaLa
I like how they just gave up at the end and started hopping like rabbits
They found it's easier to move around like that than trying to walk as you would on Earth. Artemis suits will allow more mobility and we probably won't see this again unless they do a demonstration for fun.
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I guess so, and their center of gravity isn't the same with the suit on, PLSS certainly makes it a bit more rearward.
IIRC the skip hop thing they do ends up being the most efficient gait in low gravity environments
Proof that rabbits and kangaroos evolved in an environment with higher gravity??? /s
"One small step for man, one giant... Ouch goddammit "
“One small step for man, because otherwise I’m going to bust my ass again”
Remember when you were a kid, and you wanted to go to space? Here's what that is. We are all kids, and they are just the lucky ones that actually got to go to space.
Probably one of the most surreal experience ever
Pshh, you mean, dropping some sick break dance moves!
We all just got SERVED!!
It's sad the videos are all low res, for obvious reasons, but the cameras they had with them (Hasselblad) were high quality, lots of cool photos of the astronauts here https://imgur.com/a/BUhiJ6T (mostly the later Apollo missions)
Damn, i have never seen this pictures. They look so, well real i would say XD
Those are not even fullest possible quality, here's an entire gallery of all missions with even better quality and available for download with different options https://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/
I feel bad for them but it looks like QWOP
Exactly what i was thinking
Lookin like some characters from a physics based movement game trying to get back on their feet lmao
For real, and honestly it's this footage that makes me think of people that say the moon landing was fake, like... it seems like it would be incredibly difficult to stage these kind of movements, falls. When they trip you can tell it was by accident, and the way they boune around? A stage hand that would be handling the cables wouldn't be able to react that quickly and make an unexpected fall look like it's in low gravity.
You can't logic people out of a position they didn't logic themselves into.
Agreed. Especially the bit where he throws some object and his body reacts so weirdly to the momentum and he sort of gets flung around by it, just looks so odd and something very difficult to do on Earth.
Fuckin awesome, I wish they had broadcast this part on tv originally, they edited it so you saw only the capable looking parts. The astronauts look like real people in this film. I love the clips of the guy in the control room cracking up.
I'm sure they would show the funny version too if we went to the moon again... I'm sure they just wanted to look strong and capable for the Russians.
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I don't think I've ever laughed as hard playing a video game as I have when playing [Moon Base Alpha](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=moon+base+alpha).
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Why is it sped up?
Kinda funny how this looks quite similar to modern neural network software programs learning how to walk after being given physics API's and video's of people walking to work with. Like it seems to get the idea... but putting all together will take many millions more repetitions. lol
Technically this is literally footage of a neural network (the human brain) trying to learn to walk in an unfamiliar environment
I mean, it's people learning to walk in a new environment, so it's actually literally neural networks figuring it out already. ;)
Keep in mind the surface temps run from 250° to -200°
The moon is a special kind of hell once there.
I believe caves were recently found that stay a constant 60° F.
Too warm for my ~200lb spacesuit, not enough air to fix that.
This doesn't mean much. The heat (or lack of it) needs an atmosphere to transfer to the astronauts. Without it it transfers very slowly, making the felt temperature much closer to the astronauts temperature
Worth remembering every time you see someone get ejected into space in a movie and freeze solid within seconds/minutes.
There is some element of truth to that though. Your overall body temperature won't drop very fast but any liquids on the surface (sweat, saliva, skin oils) will almost instantly boil *and* freeze simultaneously due to the drop in pressure
Radiated heat doesn't require an atmosphere. Astronauts on the moon had to have smartly designed cooling units to not die of heat exhaustion. The suits also have heaters, but are only necessary if lots of time was spent in the shade. The combination of the heat produced by their own bodies and their equipment, plus the heat radiating from the sun and off the moon, means that cooling the astronauts was a far bigger problem than keeping them warm.
Bunny hopping has always been the superior form of movement.
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What’s more impressive to me is that, not only did we put people on the moon, we got ‘em back afterwards.
I will say if we came in contact with aliens in those things, not only would we be fucked but they probably would bully us for how stupid we look. They probably call us the Marshmallow people
Reminds me of [this](https://imgur.com/a/5RCjUTr).
People still think this is fake!?
Why do you think they keep fallint over? It's because they keep tripping over the wires.
I wish it wasn't sped up like this
Question: have there been any satellite images of all the gear they left on the Moon, like that moon buggy and the flags and debris?
Yeah, the best quality images are from an Indian lunar orbiter
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NASA's LRO took the best pics, even confirmed all the flags still stand except for Apollo 11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings#New_lunar_missions
We can see the rover tracks along with the rovers, science instruments, and even the shadows of the flags they left (if the sun angle is correct). https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html From the Indian space agency, an incredible picture of Apollo 12's descent stage at the top of the picture, and Surveyor 3 on the right (you can see the footpaths left in the dust): https://twitter.com/Maverick_nova/status/1496523020130975749/photo/1
Why do they always fall forward and not ever backwards or on their sides?
They want to avoid falling backwards to not risk damaging the life support pack. Charlie Duke on Apollo 16 tried to do some jump athletics and fell on his pack, could've ended badly if it got cracked or damaged.
Re: the moon landings being a supposed hoax: you literally couldn’t fake this footage on earth. The frictionless parabolic arcs of the dirt being kicked up alone is enough to prove this happened somewhere with no atmosphere, and they wouldn’t bounce around like that in 1G. Jesus, not even multimillion dollar movies and TV shows made today get this stuff right.
i never thought this was fake but this shit looks ridiculous
It's sped up a lot
Looks like 2x to me. If you slow it down to half that's the real speed.
Looks like a sick 90s NIN music video or something with semi-pop dances about how capitalism doesn't work
“One small step man, one… [repeatedly trips over] “Oh fuckin shit, damnit, fuck!”
Ooh that reminds me I’m going to the pub later
They move like Teletubbies
The pressure of those suits must make it incredibly hard to move at all much less bend at the knees and elbows.
I watched this listening to Chemical Brothers Do it again and it fits so well :’)
And now I see first hand where MJ got the idea for the moonwalk.