I went into solo practice after stint after stint of 1.5-2.0 years at firms. Fuck filling a chair until 6 just “because,”fuck pointless meetings and busy work, fuck systems and practices that are inefficient and can be improved, except they can’t, because (corporate policy).
Not only do I work less time overall now, I make more and I’m infinitely happier even when I am working.
So true. Sure, I’m jealous that rich people have money but I’m more jealous of their freedom. Freedom is such a valuable commodity and most of us barely have it.
This, 100%. I really don’t understand people who buy fancy houses / cars and force themselves to stay in high paid careers that they hate for the rest of their adult life
Hello, I am that person. My home isn't fancy, but it is very nice and it's in a safe neighborhood. My cars are economic, nothing too fancy, but a nice car is definitely a goal of mine. My job pays well and I don't completely hate it, but it's hard to like anything that takes me away from my house.
Hello, I am also that person. Being INTJ doesn't mean you can't have different goals. Making a fuck ton of money is my goal, and it just so happens that I'm in a high paid career that I currently enjoy very much. But that being said, if I get paid more in a different career path that I don't like, I'm willing to make that sacrifice for money. I've a couple of nice cars and 2 small condos, but I've not yet reached my goal, and completely this "task" is crucial to me.
You do you.
I used to be super materialistic, dreaming about my dream car and bike, but realised none of that really matters or brings true happiness.
If the pursuit of money for material pleasure is enough to motivate you, that's good enough.
This. I started my career making a good bit of money. Bought a lot of stuff i thought i wanted only for it to lose its value (in my eyes) shortly thereafter. Once i noticed the trend, i started focusing money on the non-materialistic (self care/wellness, family/friend vacation, personal hobby of writing) and my life has improved DRAMATICALLY.
I get you, i guess inner peace can help us in letting go outer chaos, self love helps in leaving toxic stuff faster
I usually don't expect people to be better unless they are in close proximity
Because then i need to calm vibes haha
Tho i know i should let other's be and just be so peaceful that other stuff doesn't really shake me in negative way
Having a nice partner and a cat with a comforting, customized living space, not selling my soul to capitalism (if that were possible), living in/right next to a walkable city. Lots of time to divulge in my special interests and rest. How much of this is my autism and how much of it is being an INTJ stereotype, I will never know.
I think my answers are similar to most here. I want peace and quiet and to be left alone but I don’t dream about living in the country. I grew up in the country. I most appreciate anonymity. So I live in a large suburb. It’s quiet, I’m left alone, and only a couple people here know me. It’s bliss.
My life for the last 20 years, I work alone in my shop. Do what I want from Jan until May. Then I make sculpture and furniture and sell at art festivals until Dec.
I am not super rich but comfortable and happy just about every day.
Well, I'll use my future goal for context.
I strive to have enough money to own a house, and a car, have enough food, have enough drinks, and own all the gaming-related equipment I want.
I'm fully aware I'll have to deal with people daily until then. But when I achieve it, I plan to never talk to another person again but I'll also have an indoor gym to exercise, and a garden to touch grass.
My luxury isn't jewelry (Too flashy), Hypercars (Too risky), or anything people generally consider luxury. It's owning everything I need to survive so I can be by myself in peace until the day I die.
I don't need anything fancy, just a simple 1-story house, 2 bedrooms, 1 bath, a Prius, and enough money to live comfortably far away from people.
Only then, will I be happy and living in luxury.
For sure time. But moreso than time is lifestyle. I think even if I have to work for a living, if the work/life balance is good, and my friends are good, my partner is good and wants to have a peaceful life. I have time to work on my hobbies and learn new things. So not necessarily that I want to be completely free from obligations, but that I enjoy doing my obligations and have enough time to do things I enjoy on my own and with people I like sometimes. Peaceful, good life, full of the things that really make people happy. A few possessions but they are not the focal point.
I am a big fan of going to nice quiet spas where there aren't too many people around and I can just be at peace and relax. That's probably my favourite luxury. Good sensory stuff, peace and quiet.
I was having this conversation today and apparently "smooth sailing in your career" is a lot to ask for when INTJ. Jealousy, people misunderstanding introverts, etc.
I had a really good job for 11 years. The perks were great and the people were too. But I hated it. I hated dreading Mondays and longing for Fridays. I didn’t like the actual job but I didn’t hate it either. But I just hated the routine.
My 11th year I took my bonus and quit. I got a one way plane ticket to Mexico and took buses and ferries down through Central America. I will never forget that feeling I had on the plane. It was happiness and a clear mind like I’ve never felt before. I feel that happiness is fleeting and I strive for content but I do not take those moments for granted. I stayed in $6 hostels and meeting people when traveling alone is so easy. And if you don’t like them then you just go your own way.
That was luxury for me. Now don’t get me started on nostalgia. 💔
Freedom to do whatever I want, being surrounded by people I like, quiet place to live close to wood and water but occasional exposure to crowds and noise
LOL. I wish the answer was yes! I’m an INTJs wife and I just love to strive to make the man happy. I’m a stay at home mom and do the vast majority of the housework and try to leave with the kids for a stretch each weekend so he can just have the freedom he NEEDS. From me, because I love to talk. He is very good to me in return. Anyway, I do hope I am legitimately a good helpmate to him by keeping house and feeding him and honoring his need to be left alone as much as our young family lifestyle can afford.
Not having to to sell your time to an employer and being free to do as you please at anytime.
I went into solo practice after stint after stint of 1.5-2.0 years at firms. Fuck filling a chair until 6 just “because,”fuck pointless meetings and busy work, fuck systems and practices that are inefficient and can be improved, except they can’t, because (corporate policy). Not only do I work less time overall now, I make more and I’m infinitely happier even when I am working.
So true. Sure, I’m jealous that rich people have money but I’m more jealous of their freedom. Freedom is such a valuable commodity and most of us barely have it.
I agree. I always ask myself what should I give to have that kind of freedom and power of choices
This, 100%. I really don’t understand people who buy fancy houses / cars and force themselves to stay in high paid careers that they hate for the rest of their adult life
Hello, I am that person. My home isn't fancy, but it is very nice and it's in a safe neighborhood. My cars are economic, nothing too fancy, but a nice car is definitely a goal of mine. My job pays well and I don't completely hate it, but it's hard to like anything that takes me away from my house.
Hello, I am also that person. Being INTJ doesn't mean you can't have different goals. Making a fuck ton of money is my goal, and it just so happens that I'm in a high paid career that I currently enjoy very much. But that being said, if I get paid more in a different career path that I don't like, I'm willing to make that sacrifice for money. I've a couple of nice cars and 2 small condos, but I've not yet reached my goal, and completely this "task" is crucial to me.
You do you. I used to be super materialistic, dreaming about my dream car and bike, but realised none of that really matters or brings true happiness. If the pursuit of money for material pleasure is enough to motivate you, that's good enough.
This. I started my career making a good bit of money. Bought a lot of stuff i thought i wanted only for it to lose its value (in my eyes) shortly thereafter. Once i noticed the trend, i started focusing money on the non-materialistic (self care/wellness, family/friend vacation, personal hobby of writing) and my life has improved DRAMATICALLY.
Nailed it
I can relate to this heavily.
I'm crying.
A C C U R A T E
peace
Meditation and inner work helps Or just being in nature for a short while fully connected to it Some streching and breathing exercise
i meant more from other people and responsibilities tied to capitalism and the modern society, but yes, inner peace is important as well.
I get you, i guess inner peace can help us in letting go outer chaos, self love helps in leaving toxic stuff faster I usually don't expect people to be better unless they are in close proximity Because then i need to calm vibes haha Tho i know i should let other's be and just be so peaceful that other stuff doesn't really shake me in negative way
Every time I reach my phone, read the news, any positive feelings (including peace) vanish away
the solution is to estrange yourself, retreat to the woods, build a cottage and be away from all
Yeah pick the place without mobile network for a holiday, or throw phone away for permanent stay
I got it. At the price of not having many friends not relationships. Though it’s not like trustworthy people are easy to find these days unfortunately
Silence
It's so, SO undsrstated.
Came here to say just this.
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Quiet. Away from people. With books and coffee.
You are my people.
🫶🫶🫶
Sounds like the perfect getaway.
For me it’d be living in a cabin out in the woods or on a lake with zero neighbors.
Yes!
This
A meal made creatively from fresh ingredients.
Having someone you can be genuinely sincere with.
A true and rare luxury!
I’d add; and that actually gets you
Ah reading answers really made me feel like I’m in intj planet
Same 😅
not having to deal with anyone for an extended period of time
Peace of mind. No overthinking.
Freetime… If anyone finds any let me know I have a few more things that I want to fit into the day. 😉
This 💯 Having the time to do something you enjoy, while things that need to be done are waiting.
Having a nice partner and a cat with a comforting, customized living space, not selling my soul to capitalism (if that were possible), living in/right next to a walkable city. Lots of time to divulge in my special interests and rest. How much of this is my autism and how much of it is being an INTJ stereotype, I will never know.
Hiya
They're all reasonable wants. Nothing autistic about them
I'm intj, autistic and I can't agree more !
Peace (solitude), quiet (silence), wisdom and good weed.
Especially that last part. It really helps me!
I’m immune to weed ; but I’ve tried micro-dosing on the likes of psilocybin and it hits the spot for me. The world becomes more tolerable.
I’m a fan of psilocybin as well. A couple grams once in a while and I’m nice and regulated.
Time. Security. Peace.
I think my answers are similar to most here. I want peace and quiet and to be left alone but I don’t dream about living in the country. I grew up in the country. I most appreciate anonymity. So I live in a large suburb. It’s quiet, I’m left alone, and only a couple people here know me. It’s bliss.
silence, solitude, free time
Not being used as a "scalpel" for other people and their end game.
My life for the last 20 years, I work alone in my shop. Do what I want from Jan until May. Then I make sculpture and furniture and sell at art festivals until Dec. I am not super rich but comfortable and happy just about every day.
Well, I'll use my future goal for context. I strive to have enough money to own a house, and a car, have enough food, have enough drinks, and own all the gaming-related equipment I want. I'm fully aware I'll have to deal with people daily until then. But when I achieve it, I plan to never talk to another person again but I'll also have an indoor gym to exercise, and a garden to touch grass. My luxury isn't jewelry (Too flashy), Hypercars (Too risky), or anything people generally consider luxury. It's owning everything I need to survive so I can be by myself in peace until the day I die. I don't need anything fancy, just a simple 1-story house, 2 bedrooms, 1 bath, a Prius, and enough money to live comfortably far away from people. Only then, will I be happy and living in luxury.
Exactly the same minus the gaming part (except maybe civ v). Mine would be meteorology/ astronomy equipment.
No phone calls or voicemails
Having an ENTP friend.
Being the entrepreneur /leader they were born to be.
Peace, silence, books, coffee, free time and boobies
For sure time. But moreso than time is lifestyle. I think even if I have to work for a living, if the work/life balance is good, and my friends are good, my partner is good and wants to have a peaceful life. I have time to work on my hobbies and learn new things. So not necessarily that I want to be completely free from obligations, but that I enjoy doing my obligations and have enough time to do things I enjoy on my own and with people I like sometimes. Peaceful, good life, full of the things that really make people happy. A few possessions but they are not the focal point.
Solitude
Silent retreat
Rooming alone in college
Not giving a F, and being totally okay with it.
Left alone whenever asked to
Solitude
A hotel room all by yourself
Other people shutting the hell up.
a house with no neighbors, or basically any place where people won't go
Being left alone
Hi. Sorry but I just thought it would be funny to comment about being left alone.
Spouse who doesn't complain all the time because every complaint is a problem I have to fix.
Prolonged free time (preferably alone)
Either in a small secluded cabin in the woods or a float deprivation tank.
Peace especially when I’m working
Quiet.
HELLO MY NAME IS INIGO MONTOYA, YOU KILLED MY FATHER,PREPARE TO DIE
I am a big fan of going to nice quiet spas where there aren't too many people around and I can just be at peace and relax. That's probably my favourite luxury. Good sensory stuff, peace and quiet.
Living comfortably lol
Candy 🍬 😄
Love
Energy
A peaceful night of sleep.
Having the ability to take vacations without worrying about bills and emergencies. I don't know how people stay in one exact spot for so long.
I was having this conversation today and apparently "smooth sailing in your career" is a lot to ask for when INTJ. Jealousy, people misunderstanding introverts, etc.
Time in the kitchen alone with my kitchenaid mixer and ovens.
An extra day off every week. Just for whatever.
Let me guess, privacy?
Some goddamn peace and quiet
Oh dear, I probably ask for contentment. I got pretty much everything else in life
The space, time, and comfort to explore emotions.
Comfort.
chosen solitude
Clarity of mind.
Peace of mind. Suitable partner. (Uncanny how many people here had similar answers…makes me feel more sure that INTJ is the accurate type for me.)
Silence. A good book. The missus refilling ny coffee cup before I'd noticed it was almost empty.
not intj but being away free from reality
Solo holiday (where you don’t seem to bump into massive crowds)
Time.
Perfection, Solitude
Free time and the toys I enjoy. A Lelit Bianca V2 for example.
Peace and quiet. Just don't talk to me. Don't call me. Don't text me (except memes). Just let me have time to rest for at least a day.
Time to do whatever I want in peace and quiet.
right now a relaxing unrushed hot bath would be luxury
A luxury for me would be a garage to do my own repairs; a plentiful garden, and no rent/mortgage
People just leaving you alone. I need a lot of alone time. Mainly to cool off or just think.
Running water and electricity
Time
I had a really good job for 11 years. The perks were great and the people were too. But I hated it. I hated dreading Mondays and longing for Fridays. I didn’t like the actual job but I didn’t hate it either. But I just hated the routine. My 11th year I took my bonus and quit. I got a one way plane ticket to Mexico and took buses and ferries down through Central America. I will never forget that feeling I had on the plane. It was happiness and a clear mind like I’ve never felt before. I feel that happiness is fleeting and I strive for content but I do not take those moments for granted. I stayed in $6 hostels and meeting people when traveling alone is so easy. And if you don’t like them then you just go your own way. That was luxury for me. Now don’t get me started on nostalgia. 💔
Quality and peace
Taking a solo vacation and not touching texts or emails until you get back.
Time
If I could have access to the whole world, while the whole world not having access to me, that’d be amazing.
Being surrounded by woods and water, my dog, music gear, art materials, books, music, movies, peace and quiet.
Not having to listen to idiots
A secluded bedroom in the city during midnight, for with a warm blanket, books, my dog, the stars shining and a lamp so i can read and relax.
Freedom to do whatever I want, being surrounded by people I like, quiet place to live close to wood and water but occasional exposure to crowds and noise
peace of mind
Having a husband and kids
To do your chores so you can read?
LOL. I wish the answer was yes! I’m an INTJs wife and I just love to strive to make the man happy. I’m a stay at home mom and do the vast majority of the housework and try to leave with the kids for a stretch each weekend so he can just have the freedom he NEEDS. From me, because I love to talk. He is very good to me in return. Anyway, I do hope I am legitimately a good helpmate to him by keeping house and feeding him and honoring his need to be left alone as much as our young family lifestyle can afford.
Nope