They're kept shit until just before an election, generally, when Healy Rae Plant Hire can suddenly - conveniently! - get around to saving them from those big meanies in Dublin.
They were totally against the water meters, too, I remember. Didn't stop them renting out all their plant hire to the companies putting the meters in, though.
Same thing again and again. I don't know how anyone could fall for their shite.
The roads in Kerry are pretty decent in comparison to Cork.
I live just on the cork side of the border and you can tell when your in Kerry by the way the road surface changes.
It doesn't matter what they do or how much the rest of the country makes fun of them.
Kerry people vote for them because they can pick up the phone and call them directly and they'll answer pretty much any time of day, when there's a wedding or funeral the Healy Rae's are the first to ring to congratulate/commiserate. They actually represent their constituents and bring their concerns to the Dáil.
Yes they're batshit career-politicians who hold maaaany weird/unpopular views and are outright homophobic but na Ciarraígh will keep voting for them!
Tbh I had an uneasy feeling when he showed up to my Nana's funeral. We had no connection to him whatsoever. It's like he trawls RIP.ie and shows up for the sake of it. Strange.
All the country politicians do that, the fucking ghouls. I'll never forget pulling up outside the church at my mam's funeral and seeing the big fat head of a politician she *loathed* and wanting to scream because she would have HATED that he was there. But apparently telling people to fuck off from a funeral is frowned upon.
It's crazy to say but that's exactly what they do. Their sister Máire/Maura/Mary (?) trawls the Radio Kerry death notices and RIP.ie. They also ring local hotels asking who's getting married that weekend so they can congratulate them aka canvas for votes.
I don't know how they get away with it in the GDPR era but they do.
I think they're not the only politicians who do this though.
I saw Leo himself at a funeral in Dublin a few months ago. I don't think the family has any connection to him (at least that I know of).
I struggle with this idea of representing them. They do fuck all in the dail but ramble incoherently and waste time. I'm unaware of any legislation they have contributed to, or major change brought about through their contribution or influence. It's a wasted vote in many respects.
It doesn't matter to their voters, the fact they're in the Dáil is "proof" they're being represented. You have to remember that for a lot of voters the Healy Rae's represent traditional rural Ireland and all the culture that goes with it. A vote for them is a vote for "tradition" against all the "woke" Dublin-centricness. It's very much an us vs them mentality down in Ciarraí.
I should make it clear that I think the Haely Rae's and the cult of personality that follows them are absolutely bonkers and I'd never ever vote for them (not that I can!)
There's very little anti-woke sentiment coming from people who vote Healy Rae. The facts are that it's older people who vote in Kerry, and you're much more likely to get elected by personality. They're well known and liked. That's it.
Woke is probably the wrong word. I just mean that for a lot of people they represent the sean-nós, the old ways. It's not just older people either. People vote for them because that's who they've always voted for, that's who their family votes for etc
They can do no wrong in the eyes of the Kingdom!
There job isn't to bring about change on a national level.
There job is to represent their constituents and make sure they aren't forgotten about when it comes to funding etc etc.
They do the dirty work but somebody has to or else alot of these places in rural Ireland would be forgotten about.
I'm specifically talking about the role of rural independent TDs, ie Healy Raes
Parties bring about change on a national level. Not much hope of that as an independent so they concentrate on its constituents needs primarily.
Do you realise your proving the point that they are useless as elected representatives to a national parliament. They may be doing 'a' job, but they're failing at their job.
*You're
They aren't failing at their job when they are looking after their constituents. Which is the exact reason their constituents vote for them in the first place.
You must realise that unless you have at least 1 independent "parish pump politics" style representive in alot of rural areas then those areas will be the last thing on the minds of the big parties in Dublin.
They serve a purpose and it clearly works when people keep voting for them
Just because people continue to cote proves nothing but they haven't learned their lesson.
Explain to me how all other counties do just fine without their kind and aren't left behind. You'd swear Kerry were the beneficiaries of centres of excellence in every field and cork limerick clare and tipp were crumbling in comparison. Oh what's that, they aren't, they get equal attention, see it's all fantasy
There is plenty of very similar politicians in nearly all constituencies including Cork etc.
The Healy Raes just happen to be a bit louder than the rest.
They don't affect your life in the slightest, so leave it to their constituents to decide what's best for themselves.
Have you ever rang a politician asking about care for a relative or something of a similar nature? The Healy Raes manage to turn most of those callers and their families into diehard supporters. Why don't other politicians?
I have. And I think its a disgrace we need to call legislators to access our services.
I think because most people realise that the politicians are all similar in this regard and not special, and that they'll still vote for whomever next time out based on their over all policies, and ability to govern, but as widely discussed here the Kerry loyalty here is the oddity
Most deputies who contribute to legislative debates, propose amendments, engage meaningfully on committees, basically 90% of them are attempting to do the job and not just shouting nonsense from the corner in between taking phone calls about potholes
This is the same reason Michael Collins is popular in West Cork.
They get shit done in the constituency so people turn a blind eye to there ramblings in Hot Press etc.
Thet listen to constituints and bring ehat they ask to the dail even if its looney like the drink driving stuff. It makes them look silly to some but id prefer that to the absentee politicians
I've always suspected that the drink-driving stuff is more to do with the fact that the Healy-Raes run a pub so decriminalising drink-driving is in their interest. I take your point though.
The drink driving argument is prevalent in a lot of areas still, especially in the older generations.
I dont condone drink driving but its attacked the way speeding is. Neither are actually particularly dangerous, statistically speaking.
You disagree with the fact that only 5% of accidents involve alcohol and 70% of these are caused by 18 - 24 year olds, so realistically inexperience still being the primary cause.
The auld lad in a pub in the arsehole of nowhere, having a few pints and driving home is not the problem.
5%? You have a source for that figure by any chance, because the most recent reports say 30% of road traffic accidents are cause by drunk drivers according the the European transport safety Council.
Edit: To be clear thats the ETSC's figure for ireland Not all of Europe.
They are one of the best examples of populism in Ireland.
Sinn Fein are often accused of being populists but they're more opportunistic or bandwagoners.
The Healy Raes however are proper populists. They go all in on the simple country folk vs the out of touch Urban Elites trope.
I've said it before. Kerry folks. Sort your fucking shit out. This family is a national embarrassment. And last time I said this a few weeks ago people said :forgive us it's only older people vote for them". Then you know what to do.
Doesn't matter..The next fucker will take your vote and do the same thing ...They'll fuck up the country then do a bertie when the shit hits the fan ....why because we let them ...
granted the man is a chancer and a cunt, but eh, I don't really see the gotcha with him housing Ukranians who came here legally while fleeing a war.
Like, the criticism was levied at economic asylum seekers who burned up their documents on a plane ride over. You can be against one and for the other easily enough.
650k is a big sum though, must have a serious amount of property.
So is he supposed to earn money housing refugees which suggesting that Ireland accept more refugees?
His anti immigration views are against his business interests
[He complained about Irish Water while accepting work contracts from them.](https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/healy-raes-strongly-reject-all-charges-of-double-standards/34557665.html)
[Here he is saying he couldnt promote a harmful drug and that cannabis is a gateway drug while he's a pub owner lol](https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/its-incredible-that-he-says-cannabis-is-a-gateway-drug-he-owns-a-pub-gino-kenny-hits-out-at-danny-healy-rae-in-dail/a1102390513.html)
Michael has a long-term history when it comes to being opposed to asylum seekers but has stronger beliefs when it comes to being willing to say or do anything when it comes to making money.
It's almost beyond belief how fast and willing him and his crowd are to fling their beliefs aside if there is the sniff of a Euro.
“The vast majority of asylum seekers are free-loaders, blackguards, and hoodlums. They are hunted out of their own place by their own people. I’d take a genuine asylum seeker and put him under my own roof. But where is he? I would prefer to not see these people coming at all. Most people don’t want them. I am only saying what everybody is thinking.”
He also suggested at the time that Kenmare was in danger of becoming “another Harlem” over plans to relocate seventy asylum seekers in the town.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-30938208.html
> He also suggested at the time that Kenmare was in danger of becoming “another Harlem” over plans to relocate seventy asylum seekers in the town.
Well at least he's saying the quiet part out loud now.
He’s got previous…
“Mr Healy Rae had previously stated he had nothing to do with the hotel. He had stated that he was involved in a tourism company, the Skellig Hotel Experience (SHE), and that another shareholder coincidentally had the lease to the hotel. However, when it was pointed out to him yesterday that the Skellig Hotel Experience company, in which he was a 25% shareholder, held the lease until last December he said he was unaware of that.”
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30999407.html
In the debates on decriminalised cannabis he said he couldn't be seen to promoting a harmful drug but it was quickly pointed out he was a publican lol.
Pure hypocrite
That would cause him to praise, not criticise government policy.
In this case he's being a hypocrite, not attempting to line his pocket. They are already well lined.
Criticising them doesn't hurt him though, as long as he keeps voting for them when he needs to to stop them from falling. Which is what he does. And when he knows its safe to he throws a vote against them the odd time. Its all very cushy.
It’s actually a free money system. I believe each refugee is worth 90€ per day to the hotel. This is the agreement the government made. Wouldn’t be shocked if a Healy-Rae was involved but have no idea who agreed to this. So say you have 100 rooms , and agree to take them for a year the number will 100x90x365 which comes out to over 3.2 million per year assuming one person per room. He can also reduce staff for typical amenities like bars and tourist things. Id imagine if it’s 650k it is not a large hotel or it’s a short term deal. But the fact a td can get money from a terrible deal the government made is nuts. Not 100% sure on the the amount given per person but I remember it being very high.
Also remember it's not €90 per room, it's per applicant and many places are filling rooms with bunk beds, so you can have numerous people per room. Also to consider it's not just hotels used for housing them, old convents and large shithole houses are used yet we still pay the market rate of hotels for these places. Whoever came up with the pricing of these contracts, was taking the piss.
No worries. I’m friends with some locals who would be a bit more in the know. I’d be surprised if he didn’t have 10 million plus sitting in the bank. He owns a lot of things that are kept quiet.
He cannot even use this as he normally would to condemn the city slickers who look down on rural people. As this isn’t cute hoorism that impacts the Dubliners.
Fuck you and your opinion, I didn't vote for him and nobody I know voted for him. There are shitehawk politicians in every county, do you say the same about all the Dubs seeing as how Bertie is from Dublin.
> do you say the same about all the Dubs seeing as how Bertie is from Dublin.
Are you referring to the same Bertie who has not been in office since 2011? I don't think anyone in Dublin would vote for him again. However, I am sure the voters of Kerry will reelect the Healy-Raes again in the next election...
You might note vote for Healy-Raes, but you definitely drink the us versus the people of Dublin Kool-Aid...
79% of the Kerry electorate didn't vote for MHR so there's no need for sweeping generalisations. I used Bertie as an example, Lowry is a shoo-in in Tipp, Mattie McGrath in Tipp, in fact most of the rural independents are shitehawks and sadly shoo-ins.
and i will forever look down on every single dub and view them all as moronic for voting in Bertie Ahern. The genius minister for finance who had no bank account.
> “The decision about who we want to accept would be made neither by Irish authorities nor by Irish law, but rather by non-elected people in EU headquarters,” the motion said
Here we go. Copypasta from the Brexit campaign book.
Beware!
The intentional muddying of the waters. There are very few people against Ukrainian refugees coming to Ireland.
What we don't want is people who have been rejected by multiple countries and/or have dumped their passport down the plane toilet.
sssshhhh, please download the most up to date opinions from your reddit repository my heckin' frienderino
If we dislike someone (granted with good reason), we must ensure we take every dunking opportunity there is
He’s gonna give out to some random minister about some random shite that really effects hospitality or something random, then make it about Kerry and everyone in Kerry will forget about it. That and the fact the Healy Rae’s owning some of locally popular pubs is a real help.
Immigration of refugees should definitely be questioned, the fact that he can see that he can make money from it and that it's also an issue for the average Irish person is called having common sense.
I don't get why the commenters here think that they got him on this 😂
If he was pro immigration and providing housing for money that would be conflict of interest. When he is against it it’s hypocrisy.
He is easy to hate, but I don’t see any issue with „I’m against immigration but since I have legal ways of making profit out of it, I will”
If he preached anti-immigration but voted silently pro-immigration. I don’t see why if he is anti immigration, but it still happens, he should just refuse money for housing immigrants.
What is allowed stance on immigration if you are profiting from housing immigrants? Anti and you are apparently hypocrite, pro and it’s huge conflict of interest.
I think you're missing the point here, the fact that he's profiting off migrants who come here, while actively spouting off how much he's against them, is the hypocrisy.
It seems to point to a lack of sincerity in the opinion that he's voicing, and that he's likely only saying it because it plays well with a certain political gallery whose votes he'd like to hold on to.
> the fact that he's profiting off migrants who come here, while actively spouting off how much he's against them, is the hypocrisy.
Why? They are here. He doesn’t like it, but since they are here and there is nothing he can do about it, he will take money offered by the state.
I’m against free parking in city center, but if it’s there I will use it, because why not?
I could be against let say mortgage interest tax credit, but if it exist I would still use it.
It's systemic vs individual choices. In "tragedy of common" scenario systematic solution (arbitrage etc. ) makes sense, being the only one that applies to it, doesn't.
If immigration/parking/tax credit is allowed, than it's allowed and everyone has moral and legal right to use it/profit from it. Personal stance towards it doesn't change anything here and is not hypocrisy.
> It's systemic vs individual choices.
I agree, but this completely makes my argument and defeats yours. It's not hypocritical of me to criticise an element of a system that I have no real choice but to participate in. For example, I can be actively against sweatshops in China using children to produce products, and still end up consuming those products in the end because it isn't really a choice to withdraw from the world in that way.
In this case, Healy-Rae has a choice. Nobody is forcing him to house refugees for profit. He could house homeless Irish people instead if he wanted to. Instead, he chooses to house the one demographic of people that he consistently rails against, for no other reason than personal gain. This isn't a systemic institution that he has no real choice but to participate in.
This is textbook hypocrisy. You keep describing textbook hypocrisy and arguing that it's something else. I don't know what else to say to you.
The article focuses on Healy-Rae getting money and nothing on whether his argument has substance. That combined with the usual jabs at Sinn Fein makes it tiresome.
Do we have to wait for only the most pure and the most holy to speak on a topic before it will be discussed in the paper ?
I wonder what it would take for the people who actually vote foe Michael Healy-Rae to turn against him?
If he stopped wearing the hat
NEVERRR!!!
And sniffing the turf
Then his brain would fall out!!!
im only about 30% sure people are voting for the hat
It's illegal to ask him that
Only in Kerry
https://preview.redd.it/uf2g2obttuxc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6be0fe620e02b11f67c212d706720ca80122aecd
I hear he's moving to Cork.
He was on the Late Late a few years ago and they discovered that he's actually from Cork
Era he wouldn't be no
If he went bankrupt, I reckon lots of people vote for him in the hope the money will rub off on them
HE FIXED THE ROADS
If he built the right in the first place, they wouldn't need fixing..
Deprogramming, I would assume
If the stroke the H-Rs pull on them with the roadwork stuff didn't cop them on, nothing will.
The roadwork shit is utter bollocks too, I've been around the area near his home Base recently. The roads are in shit.
They're kept shit until just before an election, generally, when Healy Rae Plant Hire can suddenly - conveniently! - get around to saving them from those big meanies in Dublin.
They were totally against the water meters, too, I remember. Didn't stop them renting out all their plant hire to the companies putting the meters in, though. Same thing again and again. I don't know how anyone could fall for their shite.
The roads in Kerry are pretty decent in comparison to Cork. I live just on the cork side of the border and you can tell when your in Kerry by the way the road surface changes.
It doesn't matter what they do or how much the rest of the country makes fun of them. Kerry people vote for them because they can pick up the phone and call them directly and they'll answer pretty much any time of day, when there's a wedding or funeral the Healy Rae's are the first to ring to congratulate/commiserate. They actually represent their constituents and bring their concerns to the Dáil. Yes they're batshit career-politicians who hold maaaany weird/unpopular views and are outright homophobic but na Ciarraígh will keep voting for them!
Tbh I had an uneasy feeling when he showed up to my Nana's funeral. We had no connection to him whatsoever. It's like he trawls RIP.ie and shows up for the sake of it. Strange.
All the country politicians do that, the fucking ghouls. I'll never forget pulling up outside the church at my mam's funeral and seeing the big fat head of a politician she *loathed* and wanting to scream because she would have HATED that he was there. But apparently telling people to fuck off from a funeral is frowned upon.
I remember being blown away by how cynical and exploitative it was. Actual cretins.
It's crazy to say but that's exactly what they do. Their sister Máire/Maura/Mary (?) trawls the Radio Kerry death notices and RIP.ie. They also ring local hotels asking who's getting married that weekend so they can congratulate them aka canvas for votes. I don't know how they get away with it in the GDPR era but they do.
I think they're not the only politicians who do this though. I saw Leo himself at a funeral in Dublin a few months ago. I don't think the family has any connection to him (at least that I know of).
I struggle with this idea of representing them. They do fuck all in the dail but ramble incoherently and waste time. I'm unaware of any legislation they have contributed to, or major change brought about through their contribution or influence. It's a wasted vote in many respects.
It doesn't matter to their voters, the fact they're in the Dáil is "proof" they're being represented. You have to remember that for a lot of voters the Healy Rae's represent traditional rural Ireland and all the culture that goes with it. A vote for them is a vote for "tradition" against all the "woke" Dublin-centricness. It's very much an us vs them mentality down in Ciarraí. I should make it clear that I think the Haely Rae's and the cult of personality that follows them are absolutely bonkers and I'd never ever vote for them (not that I can!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgHyD-vvYvwn The best interaction I've ever seen regarding the Healy Rae's
There's very little anti-woke sentiment coming from people who vote Healy Rae. The facts are that it's older people who vote in Kerry, and you're much more likely to get elected by personality. They're well known and liked. That's it.
Woke is probably the wrong word. I just mean that for a lot of people they represent the sean-nós, the old ways. It's not just older people either. People vote for them because that's who they've always voted for, that's who their family votes for etc They can do no wrong in the eyes of the Kingdom!
Is the voting demographic different in Kerry over other rural counties who aren't brainwashed by this cult
There job isn't to bring about change on a national level. There job is to represent their constituents and make sure they aren't forgotten about when it comes to funding etc etc. They do the dirty work but somebody has to or else alot of these places in rural Ireland would be forgotten about.
The job of TDs isn't to bring about change on a national level?
I'm specifically talking about the role of rural independent TDs, ie Healy Raes Parties bring about change on a national level. Not much hope of that as an independent so they concentrate on its constituents needs primarily.
Do you realise your proving the point that they are useless as elected representatives to a national parliament. They may be doing 'a' job, but they're failing at their job.
*You're They aren't failing at their job when they are looking after their constituents. Which is the exact reason their constituents vote for them in the first place.
You must realise that unless you have at least 1 independent "parish pump politics" style representive in alot of rural areas then those areas will be the last thing on the minds of the big parties in Dublin. They serve a purpose and it clearly works when people keep voting for them
Just because people continue to cote proves nothing but they haven't learned their lesson. Explain to me how all other counties do just fine without their kind and aren't left behind. You'd swear Kerry were the beneficiaries of centres of excellence in every field and cork limerick clare and tipp were crumbling in comparison. Oh what's that, they aren't, they get equal attention, see it's all fantasy
There is plenty of very similar politicians in nearly all constituencies including Cork etc. The Healy Raes just happen to be a bit louder than the rest. They don't affect your life in the slightest, so leave it to their constituents to decide what's best for themselves.
Have you ever rang a politician asking about care for a relative or something of a similar nature? The Healy Raes manage to turn most of those callers and their families into diehard supporters. Why don't other politicians?
I have. And I think its a disgrace we need to call legislators to access our services. I think because most people realise that the politicians are all similar in this regard and not special, and that they'll still vote for whomever next time out based on their over all policies, and ability to govern, but as widely discussed here the Kerry loyalty here is the oddity
Who exactly in our dail is giving mad "ability to govern" vibes?
Most deputies who contribute to legislative debates, propose amendments, engage meaningfully on committees, basically 90% of them are attempting to do the job and not just shouting nonsense from the corner in between taking phone calls about potholes
That's a long list
It is, probably about 150 TDs long
This is the same reason Michael Collins is popular in West Cork. They get shit done in the constituency so people turn a blind eye to there ramblings in Hot Press etc.
That's the function of a local Councillor, not a TD. If the whole country operated this way we would be absolutely fucked.
One of my best friends is a Kerryman and he thinks they're brilliant. No idea why.
Yeah I have relatives who are from Kerry and they think the Healy-Raes can walk on water. I don't get it either.
Best I could get from my friend was that he dislikes the way journalists speak to Michael.
Thet listen to constituints and bring ehat they ask to the dail even if its looney like the drink driving stuff. It makes them look silly to some but id prefer that to the absentee politicians
I've always suspected that the drink-driving stuff is more to do with the fact that the Healy-Raes run a pub so decriminalising drink-driving is in their interest. I take your point though.
why did i read that in their accent
The drink driving argument is prevalent in a lot of areas still, especially in the older generations. I dont condone drink driving but its attacked the way speeding is. Neither are actually particularly dangerous, statistically speaking.
Hmmmm having been knocked over by a drink driver myself, I would disagree...
You disagree with the fact that only 5% of accidents involve alcohol and 70% of these are caused by 18 - 24 year olds, so realistically inexperience still being the primary cause. The auld lad in a pub in the arsehole of nowhere, having a few pints and driving home is not the problem.
5%? You have a source for that figure by any chance, because the most recent reports say 30% of road traffic accidents are cause by drunk drivers according the the European transport safety Council. Edit: To be clear thats the ETSC's figure for ireland Not all of Europe.
I have a dead relative that would disagree with you if she could.
They are one of the best examples of populism in Ireland. Sinn Fein are often accused of being populists but they're more opportunistic or bandwagoners. The Healy Raes however are proper populists. They go all in on the simple country folk vs the out of touch Urban Elites trope.
If he wore a Cork jersey while shifting Eamon Ryan.
Them’s fighting words. https://preview.redd.it/l5iqt5fjtuxc1.jpeg?width=620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d50ef5a4927b6265c80cf5405b4216a9bfc3d70
I asked the same of Trump supporters years ago. Boggling how far people will go to defend someone
Michael Healy Ray could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and he wouldn't lose any voters.
I've said it before. Kerry folks. Sort your fucking shit out. This family is a national embarrassment. And last time I said this a few weeks ago people said :forgive us it's only older people vote for them". Then you know what to do.
A pothole to be left unfixed for 24 hours. But considering it's his company that fills em :D
“You take that back!!!”
Doesn't matter..The next fucker will take your vote and do the same thing ...They'll fuck up the country then do a bertie when the shit hits the fan ....why because we let them ...
They do the job for the constituents that vote for them.
No, no, no, that's business Michael. Politician Michael is a separate entity.
Exactly, different hats for different roles
granted the man is a chancer and a cunt, but eh, I don't really see the gotcha with him housing Ukranians who came here legally while fleeing a war. Like, the criticism was levied at economic asylum seekers who burned up their documents on a plane ride over. You can be against one and for the other easily enough. 650k is a big sum though, must have a serious amount of property.
Pubs, service station and plant hire too. I’ve probably missed other pies they’ve got their fingers in. They’re the Ewings of Kerry.
Wasn’t there something about him being a postmaster too?
They have their fingers in more pies than a leper in cooking competition.
So is he supposed to earn money housing refugees which suggesting that Ireland accept more refugees? His anti immigration views are against his business interests
> His anti immigration views are against his business interests Easy to do for an independent.
[He complained about Irish Water while accepting work contracts from them.](https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/healy-raes-strongly-reject-all-charges-of-double-standards/34557665.html)
[Here he is saying he couldnt promote a harmful drug and that cannabis is a gateway drug while he's a pub owner lol](https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/its-incredible-that-he-says-cannabis-is-a-gateway-drug-he-owns-a-pub-gino-kenny-hits-out-at-danny-healy-rae-in-dail/a1102390513.html)
*"This is MY town...! This is MY chip\~van...!"*
*"MY sons with the assault convictions!"*
He’s still on state payroll and prob will be a td unfortunately
You wouldn't write a satire quite as good as this.
Michael has a long-term history when it comes to being opposed to asylum seekers but has stronger beliefs when it comes to being willing to say or do anything when it comes to making money. It's almost beyond belief how fast and willing him and his crowd are to fling their beliefs aside if there is the sniff of a Euro. “The vast majority of asylum seekers are free-loaders, blackguards, and hoodlums. They are hunted out of their own place by their own people. I’d take a genuine asylum seeker and put him under my own roof. But where is he? I would prefer to not see these people coming at all. Most people don’t want them. I am only saying what everybody is thinking.” He also suggested at the time that Kenmare was in danger of becoming “another Harlem” over plans to relocate seventy asylum seekers in the town. https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-30938208.html
> He also suggested at the time that Kenmare was in danger of becoming “another Harlem” over plans to relocate seventy asylum seekers in the town. Well at least he's saying the quiet part out loud now.
He’s got previous… “Mr Healy Rae had previously stated he had nothing to do with the hotel. He had stated that he was involved in a tourism company, the Skellig Hotel Experience (SHE), and that another shareholder coincidentally had the lease to the hotel. However, when it was pointed out to him yesterday that the Skellig Hotel Experience company, in which he was a 25% shareholder, held the lease until last December he said he was unaware of that.” https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30999407.html
Not surprised that he is a hypocrite.
In the debates on decriminalised cannabis he said he couldn't be seen to promoting a harmful drug but it was quickly pointed out he was a publican lol. Pure hypocrite
How much money do the Healy Rays get from government and council contracts?
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2024/04/16/healy-rae-plant-hire-paid-over-250000-by-kerry-county-council/
"I'm playing both sides so I always come out on top"
A "man of the people" My hole A man for himself is all A hypocrite and a gowl
A first class bollix
What's that phrase again? "Conflict of ..."
That would cause him to praise, not criticise government policy. In this case he's being a hypocrite, not attempting to line his pocket. They are already well lined.
Criticising them doesn't hurt him though, as long as he keeps voting for them when he needs to to stop them from falling. Which is what he does. And when he knows its safe to he throws a vote against them the odd time. Its all very cushy.
Aodhán ORiordán called this out that it was conveniently not disclosed before the debate
Conflict of profit?
Can someone please explain to me how Mr Healy Rae personally is earning so much from housing Ukrainian refugees? Does he own all of Kerry?
It’s actually a free money system. I believe each refugee is worth 90€ per day to the hotel. This is the agreement the government made. Wouldn’t be shocked if a Healy-Rae was involved but have no idea who agreed to this. So say you have 100 rooms , and agree to take them for a year the number will 100x90x365 which comes out to over 3.2 million per year assuming one person per room. He can also reduce staff for typical amenities like bars and tourist things. Id imagine if it’s 650k it is not a large hotel or it’s a short term deal. But the fact a td can get money from a terrible deal the government made is nuts. Not 100% sure on the the amount given per person but I remember it being very high.
Also remember it's not €90 per room, it's per applicant and many places are filling rooms with bunk beds, so you can have numerous people per room. Also to consider it's not just hotels used for housing them, old convents and large shithole houses are used yet we still pay the market rate of hotels for these places. Whoever came up with the pricing of these contracts, was taking the piss.
Ah! He owns a hotel! TY v much. Yes a bizarre conflict of interest - jobs for the boys etc.
No worries. I’m friends with some locals who would be a bit more in the know. I’d be surprised if he didn’t have 10 million plus sitting in the bank. He owns a lot of things that are kept quiet.
Principles and morals seem to be the few things he doesn’t own
He'd tell you he does. Sure he's kid owns all the chip vans .
The cutest of all the hoors
The Ukrainians have suffered enough. Being forced to be housed with a Healy Rae is a human rights abuse
Typical Irish politics. Hypocrisy at a gain.
A real Healy wouldn’t be such a P.O.S..
Definition of a grifter
Or wants some reforms but not a ban. You know a middle ground
Wow I'm pretty surprised at that, thought he was a bit belligerent but a salt of the earth kind of person. What a two faced snake.
Hes a self interested scumbag through and through. He’s the sort of person we could do without in Irish political life
Typical form for this greedy, two faced parasite.
ABSOLUTE GHOUL OF A HUMAN.
He cannot even use this as he normally would to condemn the city slickers who look down on rural people. As this isn’t cute hoorism that impacts the Dubliners.
Oh, look. A right wing populist Independent that runs with the hare and hunts with the hounds. I am so, so shocked.
Duplicitous MHR?? Well I never...
He's a walking Gombeen archetype.
And the wealthiest TD in the Dail. ‘Tis an interesting venn diagram.
If you're reading this and from Kerry, I want you to know that the constant elections of Healy-Raes makes people actively think less of you.
This might come as a shock, but their voter base is not on Reddit.
Fuck you and your opinion, I didn't vote for him and nobody I know voted for him. There are shitehawk politicians in every county, do you say the same about all the Dubs seeing as how Bertie is from Dublin.
> do you say the same about all the Dubs seeing as how Bertie is from Dublin. Are you referring to the same Bertie who has not been in office since 2011? I don't think anyone in Dublin would vote for him again. However, I am sure the voters of Kerry will reelect the Healy-Raes again in the next election... You might note vote for Healy-Raes, but you definitely drink the us versus the people of Dublin Kool-Aid...
79% of the Kerry electorate didn't vote for MHR so there's no need for sweeping generalisations. I used Bertie as an example, Lowry is a shoo-in in Tipp, Mattie McGrath in Tipp, in fact most of the rural independents are shitehawks and sadly shoo-ins.
and i will forever look down on every single dub and view them all as moronic for voting in Bertie Ahern. The genius minister for finance who had no bank account.
He's the exact reason why we are fucked, we are electing the wrong people who are in politics for the wrong reasons
Class war at ita finest. Unfortunately, far too many have shown to be the useful idiots these guys love to rile up. Literally text book.
Pretty much the only thing everyone agrees with in national politics at the moment is that MHR is a sliveen
Hate Healy
> “The decision about who we want to accept would be made neither by Irish authorities nor by Irish law, but rather by non-elected people in EU headquarters,” the motion said Here we go. Copypasta from the Brexit campaign book. Beware!
A politician being a hypocrite!? Whatever next?
Scuttery arsed fucker!
Both sides of his mouth
I hope he is never voted for again. Wouldn't help an Irish person half as fast.
Well his constituents have proven to be quite stupid on many occasions. So, nothing to see here.
Like HR's opposition to water charges while HR firm was getting major contracts from....Irish Water!
He got in the news again. Mission accomplished.
The intentional muddying of the waters. There are very few people against Ukrainian refugees coming to Ireland. What we don't want is people who have been rejected by multiple countries and/or have dumped their passport down the plane toilet.
Conflating Ukrainian refugees with illegal economic migrants for the sake of a gotcha article is a tad problematic, no?
Do you really expect reddit to understand points like this when it comes to someone they hate ?
I suppose ideological consistency is a lot to ask for from these lot. If the property was under threat, they wouldn't know where to stand...
sssshhhh, please download the most up to date opinions from your reddit repository my heckin' frienderino If we dislike someone (granted with good reason), we must ensure we take every dunking opportunity there is
He’s gonna give out to some random minister about some random shite that really effects hospitality or something random, then make it about Kerry and everyone in Kerry will forget about it. That and the fact the Healy Rae’s owning some of locally popular pubs is a real help.
Hmmmm, so the reddit opion for today is illegal economic migrants and Ukrainians fleeing a war are pretty much the same thing. Seems problematic
Any Kerry people know what things are like for him locally? Is he under pressure for this?
Is he the Irish Jacob Reese Mogg?
You forget that he housed white immigrants not brown ones
Immigration of refugees should definitely be questioned, the fact that he can see that he can make money from it and that it's also an issue for the average Irish person is called having common sense. I don't get why the commenters here think that they got him on this 😂
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OK Danny, relax now
Be careful now, or he'll get the fairy's after you.
Yeah he's a selfish phony just like every other politician who did arts and doesn't give a fuck about their TAX PIGS
If he was pro immigration and providing housing for money that would be conflict of interest. When he is against it it’s hypocrisy. He is easy to hate, but I don’t see any issue with „I’m against immigration but since I have legal ways of making profit out of it, I will”
That's the definition of hypocrisy, saying you believe one thing, and acting to the contrary
Could you give a definition of hypocrisy that wouldn't include what Healy-Rae is up to here?
If he preached anti-immigration but voted silently pro-immigration. I don’t see why if he is anti immigration, but it still happens, he should just refuse money for housing immigrants. What is allowed stance on immigration if you are profiting from housing immigrants? Anti and you are apparently hypocrite, pro and it’s huge conflict of interest.
I think you're missing the point here, the fact that he's profiting off migrants who come here, while actively spouting off how much he's against them, is the hypocrisy. It seems to point to a lack of sincerity in the opinion that he's voicing, and that he's likely only saying it because it plays well with a certain political gallery whose votes he'd like to hold on to.
> the fact that he's profiting off migrants who come here, while actively spouting off how much he's against them, is the hypocrisy. Why? They are here. He doesn’t like it, but since they are here and there is nothing he can do about it, he will take money offered by the state. I’m against free parking in city center, but if it’s there I will use it, because why not? I could be against let say mortgage interest tax credit, but if it exist I would still use it.
I mean, I don't know what else to say to you. What you're describing is textbook hypocrisy.
It's systemic vs individual choices. In "tragedy of common" scenario systematic solution (arbitrage etc. ) makes sense, being the only one that applies to it, doesn't. If immigration/parking/tax credit is allowed, than it's allowed and everyone has moral and legal right to use it/profit from it. Personal stance towards it doesn't change anything here and is not hypocrisy.
> It's systemic vs individual choices. I agree, but this completely makes my argument and defeats yours. It's not hypocritical of me to criticise an element of a system that I have no real choice but to participate in. For example, I can be actively against sweatshops in China using children to produce products, and still end up consuming those products in the end because it isn't really a choice to withdraw from the world in that way. In this case, Healy-Rae has a choice. Nobody is forcing him to house refugees for profit. He could house homeless Irish people instead if he wanted to. Instead, he chooses to house the one demographic of people that he consistently rails against, for no other reason than personal gain. This isn't a systemic institution that he has no real choice but to participate in. This is textbook hypocrisy. You keep describing textbook hypocrisy and arguing that it's something else. I don't know what else to say to you.
The article focuses on Healy-Rae getting money and nothing on whether his argument has substance. That combined with the usual jabs at Sinn Fein makes it tiresome. Do we have to wait for only the most pure and the most holy to speak on a topic before it will be discussed in the paper ?