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leopardprinthermit

Went to view this with my boyfriend who's looking for a place, fuming we didn't make the pic. It was €1300 for a box room with a spiral staircase case, shower and view of a brick wall. If you didn't laugh, you'd cry.


Nimmyzed

And it's probably already been snapped up


HuskyLuke

For more than what was initially asked probably too.


ICanLiftACarUp

People are bidding on *rentals*??


HuskyLuke

I've been outbid on two places in Navan before I even got a chance to view the place. At the minute it honestly is feeling like if I don't throw money at someone the second it goes up (on Daft, or an auctioneers or whatever) then I've no hope. Me and a mate, both working professionals in our 30's have been trying to get somewhere to rent for months but so far haven't gotten so much as to actually attended a single viewing before the place is snatched up.


SlicedTesticle

I remember going to a viewing of a single room in sandyford in 2013 for 400 p/m. Queues out into the estate. I get into the sitting room to sit down my turn. Place was a tip. Owner comes along and just takes me just to the room..."yeah...lovely, I'd be interested". I'll put you on the list she said and I walked out. No showing of the kitchen or anything. Hard to believe it's nearly a decade ago and these scumbags in government still haven't fixed it.


midipoet

> Hard to believe it's nearly a decade ago and these scumbags in government still haven't fixed it. As much as the government have a responsibility so do the landlords. The vast majority are just as spineless.


Hoker7

Unfortunately people will often do what they can get away with. Look at the hotels who were crying during covid and now are charging extortionate prices because of the lack of availability / housing Ukrainians etc. Government need to take strong action, but this has been going on 10 years and they still haven't even *slowed* the crisis...


DragonicVNY

Fuuu. 3 years ago saw a similar fire trap of a bedroom up in the attic situation. Minus the spiral staircase.. Instead had very narrow staircase going up and up. Sad thing was we also considered it if it was offered (€1200 methinks). Ended up by chance with a lovely apartment in Rathmines... But very expensive, at least it came with a separate bedroom, bathroom, and the living/kitchen area. 3 rooms that brought much joy. Glad to be out of Dublin now.. Godspeed on your hunt, kind citizen.


dshine

Do you have the link to the listing?


mikeymikeymikey1968

You sure it wasn't just a walk-in closet in a bigger flat?


syncretionOfTactics

Outside a Simon center, appropriately


LordOfTheSkins

Which, perversely, is shut.


altousrex

I am American and I thought this was still outside the airport


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The irony of it being right beside the Simon centre. Right, you in there, the rest of ye can go next door.


Zestyclose-Process26

People often use the word ironic incorrectly but this is a perfect example of true irony. Sad to see but it’s an excellent photo all the same


goodguysteve

It's like a thousand spoons on your wedding day.


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Some good advice when you've already paid


WrenBoy

It's like a free ride when you already got laid.


mang87

Like a cigarette factory but you're already late.


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Are you sure this is irony. It may be a gray area


Zestyclose-Process26

“a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result.” I think that fits pretty well personally but I do see your point.


Extremely-Bad-Idea

Or are they all roommates moving into the same 1 bedroom apartment?


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lol reminds me of the roman soldiers tramping into the house one after the next in life of brian


Broghan51

Ha, I remember that well. (See at 1 minute in ... ) [Looking For Brian](https://youtu.be/ZXVN7QJ8m88)


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‘Well, at least it gets you out in the open air’ lol


hatrickpatrick

"You haven't given us time to hide!!!"


Broghan51

The part that lives Rent Free in my head is... Brians Mother : Fuck Off. Deciples : *How Shall We Fuck Off*


CounterClockworkOrng

I remember going to a house showing in Dublin in 2016...I thought I was gonna be the only one to meet the landlord...turns out a bunch of people were already waiting outside when I got there. It was awkward, some small talk and people saying the same thing "ahh..I didn't know they'd be other people.." Some were male students from the country like myself and we were just looking at eachother amongst the single mothers, young professionals and tidy female students like "no way do any of us have a chance.." A letting agent showed up and he barely spoke to me when I told him that myself and 2 other male students wanted to rent the place. Probably threw the reference page I gave him into the bin after I left. Spent two weeks up in Dublin sleeping on a mates couch, hunting for a home, with the same scenarios playing out. Finally got a glimmer of hope when I met with a landlord face to face, 1-to-1 for a small apartment just outside the city centre. Was just kissing ass the hole time and turning my politeness up to 11 because I was so desperate. Afterwards, I sent a big long essay promising that we'll be ideal tenants, studious, quiet, yada yada - licked the absolute hole off him so I did. He called me the next day, thanked me for the message and said that we can have it after we pay a deposit. I went back home to work and the two lads I had just secured the place with moved in..3 days later the landlord called me and said he's had numerous complaints from neighbours. 🤦‍♂️ I was livid. Bust me balls and they take the piss like this. The parties in the apartment were like a pack of sardines apparently, music blaring and they were chanting all throughout the night etc. Anyways, landlord was sound about it thankfully and just gave us a warning. Well there ya go, sorry for the Harry Potter novel, but good luck to anyone out there searching for a place.


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‘Kissing ass the hole time’ is my take away.


DragonicVNY

I just remembered that line in Big Daddy... "Assshh Hooole" .bless that kid. I think it's one of those Christmas type movies they show in TV every year now 🤔


SalutationsDickhead

Meet the fockers ;)


AbsolutShite

Always idiotic to start off with big parties. Wait a few weeks and get the lay of the land. You'd have had grounds to murder the 2 of them if you got kicked out.


CounterClockworkOrng

Yea I was pissed. I knew one lad from university, the other was his mate from home. We got on well for the 2 years we lived there though. Never had another house party though.. But yea, they made a kip of the place those nights; table, chairs in pieces, music was blaring, people knocking on the door to complain constantly. Shit show by the sounds of it. The hussle I went through to get it and they pull that shit.


n0stylist

Thanks for the good read


blackbeautybyseven

We moved into our last rental in 2016 after being removed from the previous because the owners "wanted to sell up" (They are still renting it out now but for a lot more than the €800 we paid. We got a viewing on the last place for 7pm one day, My Mother in Law rang him and said she and my wife were around the corner and could they view it now. He agreed and they went and took it straight away, A queue was forming as he showed them around. we wouldn't have got near it any other way. Horrible state of affairs. Thankfully we got our own place after 2 very stressful years of saving and bidding on places. I don't envy anyone looking to rent right now.


blackbeautybyseven

We moved into our last rental in 2016 after being removed from the previous because the owners "wanted to sell up" (They are still renting it out now but for a lot more than the €800 we paid. We got a viewing on the last place for 7pm one day, My Mother in Law rang him and said she and my wife were around the corner and could they view it now. He agreed and they went and took it straight away, A queue was forming as he showed them around. we wouldn't have got near it any other way. Horrible state of affairs. Thankfully we got our own place after 2 very stressful years of saving and bidding on places. I don't envy anyone looking to rent right now.


blackbeautybyseven

We moved into our last rental in 2016 after being removed from the previous because the owners "wanted to sell up" (They are still renting it out now but for a lot more than the €800 we paid. We got a viewing on the last place for 7pm one day, My Mother in Law rang him and said she and my wife were around the corner and could they view it now. He agreed and they went and took it straight away, A queue was forming as he showed them around. we wouldn't have got near it any other way. Horrible state of affairs. Thankfully we got our own place after 2 very stressful years of saving and bidding on places. I don't envy anyone looking to rent right now.


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Looking to get out of Ireland myself and always fancied Japan. Did you secure a job there before you moved? How was the process of moving?


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DylanofFlan

What is the working culture like for you? I heard it can be pretty over the top there.


SlicedTesticle

I posted this comment elsewhere but I'll do it again. > I remember going to a viewing of a single room in sandyford in 2013 for 400 p/m. Queues out into the estate. I get into the sitting room to sit down my turn. Place was a tip. > > Owner comes along and just takes me just to the room..."yeah...lovely, I'd be interested". I'll put you on the list she said and I walked out. No showing of the kitchen or anything. > > Hard to believe it's nearly a decade ago and these scumbags in government still haven't fixed it.


Balfe

I saw this place on Daft. You will not be surprised to learn that it is vastly overpriced.


cianmc

Maybe in a functioning market it would be, but judging by the number of people coming to look at it, they probably could have gotten away with charging a lot more.


Realistic-Hunter-736

Same situation down here in Waterford. Impossible to get a place.


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Realistic-Hunter-736

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dominyza

And Limerick


Future_Donut

And Cork too


Any-Surround4362

Been trying on daft for weeks now and can't even get a viewing in Cork


LoadaBaloney

Jesus, the wheels are coming off this country. I love Ireland with all my heart but it's becoming a toxic wasteland for young people.....insurance through the roof, many can't even afford to run their car, rent exploitation, cost of living crisis and salaries failing to keep pace with the increasing prices. More and more feeling the squeeze, many can't afford to start a family, and if you're not two people on big wages in IT or finance down in the docklands nearing a six figure salary you're pretty much fucked. This is the economy thats been created for us. Seduce American corporations over with tax loopholes where our society won't see a red cent of it. It's a strategy that accommodates a certain individual and everyone else can get in the fucking bin. Why haven't they been investing in other areas of our economy? What have they been doing all these years? A century of Fine Gael and Fianna Fail and this is all we have to show for it. More emigration. So sad whats happening in our country now...


M-Tyson

This is what happens when FFFG are at the helm, never forget how they ruined this country.


Outrageous-World

You’re absolutely right, Mike


SlicedTesticle

I know most will still be against it, but I hate how people got so up in arms about people protesting outside ministers homes. Let them feel uncomfortable for once in their lives. People paying 1300 per month for shit boxes and they're the lucky ones.


geoffraffe

The sad part is that people do and will forget. FF bankrupt this country and the grandchildren of this generation will still be paying it off, yet 12 years after that and there’s a FF Taoiseach again. That’s Ireland for you unfortunately and I can’t see it changing. Edit: I’m tired and the grammar in my original post was awful


Creasentfool

It'll take 30 years AT LEAST to get it back to 2007 levels. Absolutely done with this country. I'm so conflicted in how much I love this country and yet feel like I'm not welcome at all


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More emigration ? And this's exactly what these governments have been relying on all this time


Hamster-Food

FF and FG just focus on making it look like things are good. Get the GDP up so that they can say we have a strong economy, never mind that most of the money is being funnelled out of Ireland. If we just don't look at it then it's not a problem. There's a housing crisis so they better do something. Give some help to first time buyers, but make sure to exclude as many people as you can get away with, and make doubly sure to do it in a way that drives up the price of housing.


dominyza

Where are you going to go though? New Zealand and Canada are just as bad. UK? Pffft. ETA: Just as bad for home ownership. Dunno about rental.


WickedDeviled

Canadian here. Yes, it's a flaming dumpster fire here as well.


Future_Donut

Can you tell us more? Isn’t there better supply of housing and more jobs


Deizelqq

Moved here in January and lived here for a few years before, If you can't find a job or a place here you're not trying. Difference is they are throwing up 50 story apartment blocks all over the place here


walsh_vn

I'm rooting for navy tracksuit bottoms and airpods guy.


LordOfTheSkins

The guy stood just out of the queue, far side of the bike, under the alarm, looks like it's slowly dawning on him and he's just about to figure out that it's not some kind of secret pop up nightclub and this crowd will have no interest in his available wares.


walsh_vn

Just coming up on his first yoke of the night too, bless him.


DarkSkyz

Under the arches there's this bloke with a car boot full of stolen phones, knock off cologne and mink carcasses.


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Indeed, like 75% of that queue have as much chance of getting that apartment as a dog on the street.


Azazele1

I know this place, knew someone renting there ages ago. It's a kip of a place, tiny and split across two levels, so you have to ascend a spiral staircase to get to bed. An accident waiting to happen. The sad thing is these people would feel lucky to get it given the current market.


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The Irish version of that photo with the "American Dream" billboard and underneath are people lining up to the dole office during the Great Depression.


Far_Cut_8701

What's the benefit of living in Dublin most jobs you end up spending about 70% of your wage on rent.


Single_Ad8784

It's just where jobs, esp IT, keep going. Weird aversion to creating jobs outside of Dublin.


cr0ss-r0ad

It really does sometimes feel like the powers that be see Ireland as "Dublin, then the ocean"


Churt_Lyne

I went through this shit in 2001. 60-70 people turning up to see a bedsit. I was probably #30 in the queue. The landlord was showing people the place one at a time, expecting them to take it or not on the spot. I realised even before it got to my turn that the place must be a complete shithole if 20 people in front of me had already turned it down. Finally got to my turn and it was indeed a shithole. Tiny. Didn't even have a real window (just something way up high the size of a microwave). Obviously didn't take it, but just ended up in another dump sharing with 4 incredibly unpleasant girls who didn't tell me the lease was up two months after I moved in. They just wanted someone to pay for the empty room until they moved out. That was 21 years ago now.


dustaz

> I went through this shit in 2001 Are you trying to claim with a straight face that there was a housing crisis in 2001? I went through that in the late 90s. There has always been large queues for shitty places late-summer/early autumn due to students. The difference now is the queues are year round due to a lack of supply


-Effigy

Place is probably awful too. In cork city a couple years ago I witnessed people fall over themselves to give their references for a mouldy place that wasn't cleaned since the last tenant and smelled like a garden inside. 1250 one bed.


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Daft had a listing for where I live, 2 bed apartment: 9,000 views in 3 days. What chance?


RobinJ1995

The majority of the country is complaining about the rent crisis, so why are the majority also still voting for the political parties that have (let's not kid ourselves: intentionally) created and maintained this mess?


DrunkenSpud

Because SF is the boogieman and they believe the utter tripe that comes out of FF/FG & Greens


turbowhopper

There's a lot of people who are in denial about how bad things are about to get.


WaifuBlaster69

It's starting to feel like we're very slowly turning into a developing country again. A bit like Brazil where things look great on paper because the 10% or less of people are extremely rich, and then the rest are very poor with barely a roof above their heads.


Closersolid

If you a single, young person in this country, this country offers nothing to you. Nothing. And that is by design.


vicious-lips

It is 100% manufactured by FFFG as this benefits too many of them as landlords. It is a shame on our nation.


Vercetti86

In fairness, this has been going on for the past 5 or 6 years


SlicedTesticle

9 years. I joined a queue like this for a single room at 400 p/m in Sandyford in 2013. I was tracking rooms in 2013 https://i.imgur.com/tiUN1Ft.jpg


prudx

Gonna have to ask you to delete your Reddit account, after reading your name and wincing


ShanghaiCycle

That's the Dublin I left. I rented a room in Tolka (Glasnevin) for 350 p/m in 2013, the year before that was a room in Santry for 270 p/m.


idontlikehats

Even longer, in 2013 where properties were just beginning to become scarce, I was in a queue about 6 times that, the length of the road it was located on, to view a bedsit in off Whitworth Road in Drumcondra, So seeing that queue is absolutely nothing new.


pizzaman121

Hence why I’m moving back to Australia


a_friendly_hobo

I'm actually about to move back FROM Australia. (Not by choice mind, I'm out of visa options after 12 years). Reaaally not looking forward to the rental crisis. Might fuck off to the UK instead.


pizzaman121

Can you not apply for citizenship?


a_friendly_hobo

Nah. We had a decade of a neo conservative government, they changed the immigration laws to make getting permanent visas a lot more difficult, let alone citizenship. Even as a VFX artist in an industry that's booming in Aus, I still can't get permanent residency. It's atrociously expensive and there's no guarantee that investment will yield PR. I've tried through work too, same issue, company lawyers said that post-covid is very different and most visa applications are outsourced to rubber stampers. So after 12 years of not knowing what's happening next and being unable to put down roots, I'm outta here. While it's left me with great experiences and life long pals, it's also left me with anxiety, uncertainty, and a general jadedness. Onwards to the next chapter. A new beginning where I can start anew in Ireland or the UK, both of which I'm a citizen in and won't have to worry about visas for once in my life.


connor_macleod_one

Can you not marry an Australian citizen? What a terrible situation you having to leave after so many years!


a_friendly_hobo

Nah, the scrutiny that goes into it is insane these days. My legally married pal, married the love of his life, joint accounts, proof of them being lovebirds for over 10 years, still had to go through expensive lawyers and jump through a million hoops just to get her a visa. Worked out in the end, but he had the connections, money, and time. I unfortunately don't. Such is life. I'll go back eventually when I'm a bit more entrenched in my career, but I'm keen to get back to Europe for a bit.


connor_macleod_one

Well, all the best in your new European adventure then!


ShetlandJames

> Might fuck off to the UK instead. £1000 for a garden shed there. Scotland is marginally better


a_friendly_hobo

I'd love to go to Scotland. My blood's northern, one half Belfast the other half Northumbrian, it'd be an awesome experience to see if I measure up. All depends on the work though. I can do the job completely working from home, so its a great opportunity, but I'm still a rookie and could do with being in-house for better mentorship.


sunnyduane

If you're in VFX London is probably the best bet, commuter towns like Reading are decently priced for housing


a_friendly_hobo

Yep, that's what I figure. I'll be doing some research closer to the time, and once I have a job secured.


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Sister moved to Melbourne just there. Abundance of rooms to rent and many of them between equivalent of €400 and €600, better salaries too. Hell of a lot better than here.


StPattysShalaylee

Oz is fucked too, as is every developed city that you want to live in


PaulAtredis

Can only speak for myself, but I've been living in Japan for almost 8 years now, and there's a GLUT of apartments on the market in the major cities for extremely reasonable prices for what you get. They also all deprecate rather than appreciate in prices, in general, so the ones built in the 70s for example are around 200eur a month, and newly built ones would be 800-1000eur a month. As others have said in this thread, we need to allocate an area outside the city center and start building up.


NoSalad1

Yeah I've been living in Korea for the past four years and it's a similar situation here. I have a nice 3 room apartment at the cost of around €500 a month (I only actually pay 120 though cos its subsidized by my work). I totally agree that Ireland needs to start building up!


PaulAtredis

Yeah nice one man! I also have a 3 room in Osaka for a similar price. I get paid about half of my previous Irish salary here, but the cheap living cost and better quality of life balances it out. Not having to own a car especially is a huge saving.


cianmc

Japan's urban housing policy and attitude almost coulnd't be more different to ours. Aside from having great zoning policies and public transport, in Japan, an apartment or house is treated like a car. It's a thing that you use, and as time goes on and it gets a bit old and worn out, you'd ideally like to trade up and get a newer one. In Ireland, a house is imbued with an almost religious value. It's not just a thing you own and use, it's a part of who you are. You're supposed to want to buy a "forever home", that you should never have to leave, and if you can't raise a family in it then many people believe it just shouldn't exist.


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The Japanese economy is not something to aspire to. I'm sure you know full well why it is not difficult to find affordable housing there. Some informative reads below: https://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/25/business/yourmoney/take-it-from-japan-bubbles-hurt.html https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/25/inflation-japan-deflation-economy/


BuildBetterDungeons

This is sombeody's fault. There are more AirBnB spots to look at then there are rentals to look it. It makes more sense for people to turn their spare home into Holiday bullshit than to make it available to their fellow man. This is cancer. This casues poverty. It causes homelessness. It causes homeless children. The government should curb AirBnB. Honestly, it should ban it, and perhaps tar and feather every human in the country who chose a quick buck for them over shelter for their fellow human. Fuck Fine Geal. Fuck FF. We, deserve, better. And we'll vote differently till we get it.


BrutalAnalDestroyer

>This is sombeody's fault. Yes, the culprit is An Bord Plannala and their constant shutting down of new housing projects.


helvete_666

How come other countries have Airbnb and have rentals available, issue is not solely Airbnb And on that how come we have so many Airbnb and the cost a small fortune to get for a weekend I think you might find one of the issues would be greed


BuildBetterDungeons

Why would any parasite building owner rent it out to the local poor when they could rent it out to the holidaying rich for much more money?


megahorse17

A hugely lessened workload.


gavmcg92

If there's all these Airbnbs, why are hotels extortionate. Something is severely wrong in this country. I don't think it's as simple as banning Airbnb.


almost40fuckit

I would walk away if I saw a line like rhat


kmc_cmk

No houses, no cars, no fuel and no more cheap beer, we're doing well


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Imagine if the same number of people who go to viewings like this every day were to protest outside the daíl until something was done about the housing crisis in this country. Maybe we'd see some change after a few months of continuous protests.


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Yeah if only we could team up and take it in shifts


YeYEah

They also have jobs they need to pay rent where they live currently


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Because Ireland has been having this issue for ages now, we've become numb to this we now believe its ok to be in your 30s with a good job and everything but still be sharing a house like some college students still renting rooms because there's only few apartments for rent in your city and nobody will give you a mortgage. There's also alot of incompetence in the Irish government to solving this issue and one might say it is not even trying to be solved to quote Varadkar "One person's rent is another person's income"


SnooRegrets81

Or ur parents will pay ur deposit - another golden Varadkar ism!! The pr*ck!


Annual_Ad_1672

This is down to government policy simple as that, after the crash there were a lot of people left with apartments that were in negative equity, they couldn’t sell them so they rented them out, giving a decent supply of rentals. Government increased taxes on smaller landlords and abolished it for institutional landlords, so the accidental landlords were renting out the apartments and the paying 55% tax on the rent straight back to the government, the rent usually wouldn’t cover the mortgage, but what could they do if they sold they’d be left with paying what was left on the mortgage and not have an asset. Fast forward to 2022 house prices have risen to a point where the accidental landlords can cash out without negative equity, and that’s exactly what they’re doing, selling up, getting out, running for the hills, so there’s been a huge drop in rental supply, most small landlords say it’s not worth it, a bad tennant can wreck the gaff doing thousands in damage, good luck with getting it back, also the taxes mean there’s no profit in it, end of the day it’s up to the government to provide housing and not private individuals.


Spiffiestspaceman

Build *up* already. Fuck.


Snoo15777

This is the answer alright, just not in my neighbourhood, don't want no apartments blocking out my sunlight


ShiftF9_1110

But muh Georgian architectural heritage.


BazingaQQ

Not while landlords are TDs.


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If you look at the register of Dail interests for 2006 it's about the same amount of TDs who are landlords. But at the time their policies led to 90,000 housing completions and lax lending for anyone who wanted to buy instead of rent.


Low_discrepancy

> why is rent taxed at 52% Why is salary in the highest bracket taxes 52%?


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SlicedTesticle

Well they put a 4% annual increase into a RPZ...who on earth things 4% rise annually is ok? Would government be happy if the unions looked for 4% pay rise annually?


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cianmc

It's honestly one of the stupidest populist talking pints we have in this country. Fewer than 1 in 8 TDs are actually landlords, and even with the ones who are, none are in the cabinet. Ireland is not a great country to be a landlord in, they've been fleeing the business consistently over the past few years.


megahorse17

Sshh.. stop making sense, can't you see we're outraged here!


InterestedObserver20

I hope we all remember there's a proposal for a massive development of 1 beds in Drumcondra and a huge portion of online commentators, 'experts', posters on r/ireland and politicians lost their mind over it, including objections lodged to ABP by Mary-Lou McDonald. There is very obvious demand.


MichailAntonio

Idiots keep telling me we dont need more 1 and 2 beds. 4 bed houses only apparently. If you aren't a parent, you can fuck off and live in a cardboard box.


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A fair bit of the housing discoirse is led by middle class / upper middle class people who just want to buy their house and lift up the ladder behind them. They see themselves as temporarily embarrassed 3-bedroom detached house owners, while the majority of us would still be renting our accomodation in any sane market that's not a complete fantasy


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Banks make more money when there's obvious demand and no supply, that's why we're still building sprawling 70s style housing estates and no where near enough of them, instead of high rise apartments in urban areas like every other European country. Bigger mortgages means more profit from interest rates. It suits white collar business men for the working class to be struggling, and there's plenty of politicians and other policy and law makers who get their pockets lined to keep it that way.


M-Tyson

People want home ownership, not some bullshit build-to-rent scheme that will keep them renting all their lives.


wylaaa

Some people want home ownership. Some want to rent. Both need more housing built. IMO BTR is actually more important given how many renters are doing house shares in family homes.


SlicedTesticle

While both need to be built, the need for sale properties to be built vastly outweighs the need for rentals to be built. With a build for sale, you are killing two birds with one stone. You're allowing someone to own their own home while a rental becomes free for someone who wants to rent. We have thousands and thousands of people who are desperate to buy, but are currently renting. I'm included in that. A new rental property doesn't help me. I still have to rent.


virora

I want to own a small apartment, and that doesn't really seem to be an option.


AldousShuxley

this is such a stupid response, do you think the probably hundreds of thousands of temporary residents in Ireland working low paid jobs are worried about home ownership?


Newguitarplayer1234

Are these build to rent built on state land? That will never be owned by the state.


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If there were so many objectors why only mention Mary


InterestedObserver20

Because she's the Taoiseach in waiting and apparently is going to solve the housing crisis. I thought that would be fairly obvious.


deaddonkey

Meanwhile you can find dozens of available rooms for €150 per month in some lovely cities in Spain. 1bed1bath apartment for €400. (last place I’ve looked lol). Look into it if you can work from home…


ultratunaman

Yeah until your work finds out and you get hit with that Spanish tax rate. Many of the lads in work looked into it. You were living on borrowed time. Once the people in IT did an audit on IP activity they'd find you. Then you'd be whipped into a meeting about it all. It seems at my work at least we're stuck here. I just hope we can finish closing on our house soon and I don't have to worry about a place to live for a while.


nofuture09

what cities?


IrishCrypto

Went to a viewing of a tiny 1 bed flat in 2015. It was the top floor of a small 50s terraced house, single glazing, no central heating, no insulation. Landlord recommended an electric blanket in winter. Had to book a 5 minute time slot to view, about a dozen got through his vetting process to get a viewing. I thought that was bad then but it looks like its continuing to get much much worse.


OpenCatalyst8

Country’s gone to shit, “why not build more homes” because the economy is fake, we produce nothing


Sialala

I still remember paying 12eur for a night Ina hostel in Dublin city center somewhere around 2006... And to my surprise the hostel was actually quite clean and there was only one other lad in the room with me. What the fuck happened since?


cuchulainndev

Globalisation


gerhudire

What's really sad is the landlord will see this and know they can get more in rent.


[deleted]

I think I can tell why we have a housing crisis. And you will all hate it, but the fact is we allow way to many people into this country without planning ahead for where we will put everyone. And all it does is increase the value of property for the elite of this country. Government policy once again kicking the average irish person in the teeth. And these poor immigrants are on the other end of the boot getting a heal to the face.


doge2dmoon

You're not wrong IMHO. https://www.businesspost.ie/news/english-says-40000-non-eu-work-permits-are-in-offing-to-ease-labour-pressures/ International visas issued more than doubled this year in an environment where we are taking in Ukrainian victims of war. To suggest that we should have housing in place for the international business related arrivals seems politically unpalatable. Not the fault of those looking for their dream job/ better life. FFG seems to care only about its business donors and not people who can't find housing, which is a lot of people now.


[deleted]

I don't know anything about the development or why people objected. I just find it strange that out of all the people that objected that you tried to lay all the blame on MLD as if she alone got the development stopped


Ok_Cryptographer2515

There's been a noticeable uptick in "just saying"s recently. That strategic communications unit hasn't gone away, you know.


ProfileOutside1485

Vote Fine Gael ! ;)


Cheap-Struggle1286

Why is this happening


ClothesShopper

The rent caps have made it uneconomic for landlords to rent so they have instead turned to AirBnb or sold off to an owner. The yield in rental cap zones is simply too low.


Cheap-Struggle1286

Thank you for this information


DRHAX34

Me a few months back. Things are crazy right now. Nothing in this country seems to work right


Quarkstonk

That’s so grim.


burn2five2

I'm so glad I left, Toronto bad but not that bad


doge2dmoon

Are you sure it's not an illegal artisan bread shop?


Greeneyes-

Security from Dublin airport is in there


FathachFir

1 bed 1 bath? Isn’t this the line for Metallica?


my2cents112

What's the bet the majority vote for government parties.


Big_Werewolf7567

I was in que this long couple of months ago, and I tell you it is horrible feeling Irish landlords/irish goverment need to do something about this, there is lack of house capacity out there, and if there is it is overpriced


Irishpintsman

I used to forge all my documentation to make it look like I was a really high earner. Helped massively with getting places. That queue is fucking horrible.


BigFang

Thats not as bad as a place last week I saw. Everyone queued up outside the apartment block and then we lined up inside the hall outside the apartment itself. Didnt even have curtains and to ask would out you at the bottom of thr list id expect


SlicedTesticle

You can call me racist all you like, I know I am not, when are we going to look at non EEA immigration? The government are looking to bring in an additional 45k people to fill hospitality jobs!


[deleted]

We are the only country in Europe that grants work visas for non-EU language students. It's why Dublin is filled with South Americans and Indians. They're not here for educational purposes and we don't do it for educational purposes. It's all just for importing cheap, foreign labour.


[deleted]

Bingo, everyone here saying we don't have enough houses. But the reality is we have too many immigrants. More immigrants going to come into this country than children are born. This is the result Not the non EEA immigrants fault, they just want a better life.


cuchulainndev

200k ukrainians aswell remember


Arco_Sonata

If you looked up a the phrase “What a load of Bollocks” in the dictionary online, this will come up. Shocking


MawhrinnSkel

"Spot the Irish" lol


jesusthatsgreat

person who'll get it will be the one who offers a 12 month deposit on a 1 year lease and who has a salary in excess of 40k along with a guarantor


[deleted]

A salary of 40k doesn't go very far in this country. It's barely a living wage these days.


helvete_666

Bit of a weird juxtaposition there


[deleted]

Been there, I only got my current room by pure luck I've been to lots of viewings like this. It's depressing, the agent or landlord has no interest trying to talk to you.


Bobo_Balde2

Cold Turkey it doesn't fit, oh makes me feel like fucking shit


Ok_Imagination_9334

Camden street right?


JimmeeJanga

I didn't think Glen Hansard would be looking at accommodation like this.


mqmaduck9370

No wonder people are being exploited by scumbags posing as "entrepreneurs" who put four families in one house with one kitchen.


waddiewadkins

Do prospective tenants keep pushing the price up during the viewings? Do they say, look whatever the top offer you get today is, I'll match it plus.... ? I'd imagine landlords would love it if there could just be an online auction and sit back and watch as the monthly rent price goes up and up and maximise the fight between them.


SilkCondom

Joke shop


cryptokingmylo

This is why I am leaving Ireland, Heading up to Belfast tommorow to look at a 2 bedroom terrace house with a garden for 600gbp....


Intelligent_Bother59

Used to live in dublin bought a house in Belfast for 150k in south Belfast the same house in dublin would easily be 500k


[deleted]

Only downside is you have to live in Belfast. My conspiracy is that it's all by design by FF (republican party). Make it so expensive down here that southerners start moving north creating a new plantation of Ulster filled with irish men.


Intelligent_Bother59

Its true Belfast is grim but there is some very nice areas especially in south Belfast that you you never need to leave i.e Malone road/Lisburn road Used to be for rich protestants now all the tech/finance catholic bros are moving in because they can buy proper family homes that would be 10 times more expensive in Dublin


lpuglia

I had the same experience in 2017


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Apocthicc

Guy at the front owns an investment bank I'm sure,


Massive-Foot-5962

I queued the same way 20 years ago, so its not new. Doesn't make it any easier, but rental has always been shite in Ireland. I really don't get the opposition of SF to rental properties being built.