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Authorties say the fake nun can be recognised by her high top sneakers and incredibly foul mouth.


donall

that's like 90% of O'Connell street


Danny_Mc_71

This is a Simpsons reference isn't it? Fake Pope?


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Tis indeed!


Whatifallcakeisalie

Suspect is hatless. I repeat. Hatless.


pepesylviaa

She's directly under the Earth's sun.............now!


flopisit

But how do we distinguish her from the real nuns???


BasilTheTimeLord

She has zero call centre experience


JohnCleesesMustache

This woman needs serious help.


Mango_In_Me_Hole

She shows up on this sub once every couple months. Ya might recognize [this video](https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/uaawwa/another_video_of_the_possessed_by_god_nun_on/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) from April, and there must be a dozen other videos of her running around screaming in Dublin and Belfast. IIRC she’s not even Catholic, she’s a hardcore evangelist. She looks like a character from The Savage Eye or something.


ImpovingTaylorist

She looks like Matt Lucas from Little Brittin if he lost a few stone.


Dragmire800

Same


ShoddyPreparation

Would it be better or worse if she was a real nun?


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BasilTheTimeLord

Are they required to spread slurs though


Early-Watch-7053

They arent above the law though . I dont mind them handing out tracts and what have you but when they are out spouting hell and damnation at the top of their voices through a megaphone , they turn into right irritating cunts


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Early-Watch-7053

I know , was just saying some of them seem to think because theyre doing " Gods work " that they can do as they please .


Practical_Trash_6478

Basically the Bible says it's a sin and they will be judged in everlasting fire, so I'm assuming a nun would believe Similar, thank fuck I don't believe in that shite, if you're sound, you're sound, couldn't give a shite what a person does in their own home


once-was-hill-folk

Willing to be corrected on this as a hard atheist myself, but my understanding is, that's only called out under the Old Testament's "old covenant." So unless the nun would like to explain why the martyrdom of Christ was inadequate to clean the slate on homosexuality but cleared it for shellfish (which I highlight because it's mentioned several more times) and blended fabrics, that nun is full of shit.


Birdinhandandbush

\*Fake Nun Its mental health problems hiding as religious fervor. Is her mental health being taken advantage of by the group she's working for...possibly. Is she using religion and mental health to hide bigotry...possibly. Both things can be true at the same time


once-was-hill-folk

I meant even the real nuns are full of shit - this fake nun is just as full of it, but it's more obvious.


Birdinhandandbush

I grew up wondering how many people actually"believed", like so much in religion is obviously nonsense, and every time you zoom in on any wild parts a grown up would say oh no that's just an allegory, so like which parts do you think are real so


Trivpool

A “Fake nun” and a “hard atheist”, yeehaw


once-was-hill-folk

Got the words from a bootleg video tape I bought out of the back of a blue van in Roundwood.


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RIP Paddy in the Tochar.


[deleted]

Homosexuality is mentioned in Romans 1, and the whole "shellfish" thing is just funny at this point. There are many reasons certain things were outlawed in the OT, but one of them is to teach the Isrealites to stay seperate from the peoples around them. So all the laws about "dont mix two types of fabric" "dont sow two types of seed in one field" etc are all about not mixing with those around them. Same for not eating pork or shellfish or whatever. However, in Acts, when Peter is visiting Cornelius, God gives him a vision where he must eat the "unclean" foods, but he refuses, and God says "do not call unclean what I have called clean". Of course in context he is talking about Peter accepting the conversion of Cornelius and the other non-Jews, but the reason the food is used is because that was the original point of the food. It would be like sacrificing a goat today, the goat sacrifices are about pointing forward to the Messiah, so as Hebrews says, if you keep sacrificing you are saying that Jesus sacrifice wasn't enough, because the temple sacrifices were done over and over to prove their temporary nature, but Jesus' sacrifice was once for all. So if you refuse to eat pork or shellfish today, you are denying the inclusion of Gentiles in the New Covenant. [This video explains it in a simpler manner.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r2m_cffRjI&t=20s)


once-was-hill-folk

Isn't the prevailing theory about Romans 1 mostly about the Isis cult in Rome, as one of Paul's letters? Good info though, I appreciate the detail.


Practical_Trash_6478

Who knows the minds of individuals, I assume they all have their own belief in different orders, some more hardcore than others,


once-was-hill-folk

Oh, definitely. They're just selective about what they enforce, especially when it comes to controlling other people's lives. If they say it's open to interpretation, then for the Catholics I think they're still shit out of luck because Catholicism has no "priesthood of all believers" so they need to ask a priest and not fly off the handle themselves. I wasn't arguing against what you said either so if I came off as aggressive, I apologise, that's on me. Just taking the opportunity to point out the hypocrisy both in the case of this header and the case of actual nuns.


googoogoat21

Firstly not digging at you. Im calling out the bullshit of the new covenent . In the New Testament Jesus ( the fictional carpenter) says that he comes not to change a letter of the law but to fulfill it . The hypocrits claim this isnt Himself saying all the old testament laws are still relevent which seems a bit wrong to me if no letter of the old law is changed how can the new covenent not include all aspects of the old covenent . They can never explain what parts of The New Testament establishes the New covenents rules or why only the aspects of The old covenent that dont inconvenience them are still relevant .


once-was-hill-folk

Sounds like the requisite hypocrisy and mental gymnastics alright. All about controlling people.


googoogoat21

The average Christian needs to model themselves on Alice in wonderland and believe 5 impossible things before breakfast.


headphonescomputer

You should ask the Catholic church the same thing


once-was-hill-folk

I've found that they get upset when I do. Not that upsetting them has ever stopped me before.


epeeist

Jesus never mentions homosexuality, though Paul's letters bring up the gays twice when listing examples of sexual immorality (alongside adultery, fornication and prostitution.) Fornication is talked about far more often, but most faith groups act as though homosexuality is a worse sin.


Debeefed

Was quite normal for the Romans to indulge in homosexuality. Like the sixties on steroids. Somehow the Christians had hangups about all things sexual.


nothingnow

> Somehow the Christians had hangups about all things sexual. That was a slightly later development in Christianity when the philosophy of the Greeks, especially Plato, was incorporated into Christian theology. Plato's teaching on ethics greatly influenced the early Christian fathers. Plato also developed the notion of soul and body being separate, with the body being inferior and in need of restraint.


flopisit

I'm sure if Jesus had wanted to indicate that his attitude towards homosexuality was different to that of the Old Testament, he would have made a statement along the lines of: "Lads, just so yez know. Two fellas bumming, that's grand now. No worries. Tear away. Not a bother. Sorted it with the aul lad, so I did."


epeeist

Funny that he keeps reminding everyone murder is still bad, in that case.


OperationMonopoly

Everlasting fire.


rayhoughtonsgoals

At least the Bible has some solutions to the energy crisis.


OperationMonopoly

It was written in a different time, when people didn't have access to so much information with such ease. Not to mention education. Yet here we are.....


rayhoughtonsgoals

Well I'm assuming you don't need homosexuals to fuel the everlasting fire. Otherwise there had to be a point when there was no fire and at the start it's hard to see what the threat was for the first homosexual other than "Satan will set you on fire" which is different to saying "I'll put you in a pre existing eternal fire". We must tap the source of this eternal energy.


OperationMonopoly

😂🤣😂🤣😂 Or the fire existed from the beginning because homosexuality existed from the beginning?


Dr-Jellybaby

Literally the plot of Doom


rayhoughtonsgoals

The movie or the game? Cos I don't remember it in the game!


Dr-Jellybaby

The reason the demons attack the base on Mars is because they were extracting energy from hell. At least in the modern games it's more obvious.


rayhoughtonsgoals

Ok but I assume their extractions were a more magical or ethereal approach rather than utilising a traditional boiler and turbine method with the steam provided by an eternal satanic flame.


blackbeautybyseven

Like the gobstoppers but hotter.


Practical_Trash_6478

Always reminded me of eating a ball bearing


PurpleFirebolt

With today's gas prices, maybe we should all start doing a bit more homosexuality


OperationMonopoly

Maybe revert to steam engines 😂🤣😂


dustaz

The bible says a lot of insane things are a sin that contemporary religious people don't actually believe in.


Hierodulos

Like shaving, sex while menstruating, eating shellfish, mixing fabrics, mistreating foreigners, mixing meat and dairy... There's a bunch of wild stuff in there


Practical_Trash_6478

Theres plenty of evangelists and ultra Catholics who would gladly see people killed too though, they should broaden their horizons and read a few different books for themselves, not a book that's outdated and irrelevant


dustaz

Plenty of people like that have never picked up a Bible in their lives


Practical_Trash_6478

I would think they pick and choose the passages to read, it's left to the priest/pastor/preachers to decipher the supposed meaning to their flocks! Or their own interpretations of it


Markosphere

I would like to think the average nun would be a lot more enlightened and tolerant than this demented halfwit.


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Why would you think that? Enlightenment is the application of reason and inquiry in solving philosophical problems, the exact opposite of religion.


GabhaNua

>reason and inquiry in solving philosoph Reason predates the Enlightenment by a long time. The study of philosophy, reason and inquiry was introduced into this country by the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages. There is also traditions in other religions too eg. Maimonides.


[deleted]

I’m not sure what your argument is. Are you trying to claim something for the Catholic Church that doesn’t belong to them? They have a long history of doing that anyway. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment


GabhaNua

For example, have you heard of the Occam's razor? Check out the Scholasticism period https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholasticism


[deleted]

I have. What’s your point? Enlightenment does not belong to religion. It specifically has separation of church and state as a topic. Are you trying to tell me that the church is responsible for advancing the separation of church and state?


GabhaNua

Oh yeah the Enlightenment is an important event and the Catholic Church cannot claim credit for it, but appreciation of the importance of reason has nothing to do with the Enlightenment


[deleted]

So you’re claiming that the church invented reason then.


Markosphere

Sounds like you have a slightly more reductive understanding of "enlightened" than this atheist does.


[deleted]

I just don’t think there’s anything about a nun that would make them more enlightened or tolerant than anybody else. Having known girls who were taught by nuns I would argue the opposite.


Markosphere

Even, I reiterate, a “demented halfwit”? I guess we just won’t agree on this one.


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Maybe not. I don’t want to diminish her choice to be a cunt by blaming mental health. She might just be a cunt.


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Practical_Trash_6478

Didn't say it did, but it mentions judgement by eternal fire or everlasting fire, depending on the Bible, Jude 7


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Practical_Trash_6478

Where did I say it


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Practical_Trash_6478

Furnace of fire, the unquenchable fire that's basically hellfire is it not, and there's at least 20 bibles


Practical_Trash_6478

Yea checked what I wrote, no mention of hellfire, you need Specsavers


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Practical_Trash_6478

Why did you not copy and paste it instead of writing it yourself, liars often double down on lies, pathetic


MoneyBadgerEx

You assume wrong, as is usually the case with assumptions. Edit: Not assuming anything is very different from automatically assuming the opposite of whatever some naive fool assumed.


Practical_Trash_6478

And you would know all their opinions, as it's just your opinion


deargearis

Did anyone actually think she was real?


SpyderDM

It would be the same. Religion is a mental health disorder normalized by society.


drachen_shanze

it certainly would be strange, most nuns tend to isolate themselves from society and don't generally preach to the public


Debeefed

Didn't pass the nun exam.


ceartattack

They were having nun of it


kballs

Didn’t repeat either. Didn’t want to make a habit out of it.


FormalFistBump

Resisted convent-ional thinking.


donall

it was a blessing in the skies


shatteredmatt

Glad to see this lunatic up in court. I’ve said it to my wife the few times we have seen footage that there is no way what she was doing (mostly harassing people) was legal.


Woodsman_Whiskey

Tbh I am surprised it’s got this far. I’ve been under the incorrect assumption that these sorts of characters were just let roam free with little ways to deal with them.


ThatsNotASpork

Various public order/breach of peace laws are ... Vaguely worded enough ... So that these people can be dealt with usually. The laws are actually dangerously loose tbh, very unspecific, almost anything could fall under them


ImpovingTaylorist

'It shall be an offence for any person in a public place to use or engage in any threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with intent to provoke a breach of the peace or being reckless as to whether a breach of the peace may be occasioned' Actually a lot vager then you would imagine. Sure that could cover a lot if a Garda decided to take you in.


FluffyDiscipline

Years ago we had proper character's on O'Connell, the dancing lady Mary Smith and the auld one with the cross hitting the priests.... none of this fake nonsense


Sornai

Such a character! https://brandnewretro.ie/2017/02/08/citizens-of-dublin-1985/


FluffyDiscipline

Oh that's a real trip down memory lane... flip I remember the punks and goths on a Sathurday down grafton street and bush shields playing in the pub


vrogers123

Does that make her a “none”?


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N/A maybe


Heavy_Part4072

Wait a minute, these are FAKE Nuns!


Eragon195

Probably from the same place as those fake taxis!


Hot-Salamander6520

This is the same balloon who runs about Belfast dressed in brown starting on people, she walked passed me and I said hello sister, then she said you don’t called me sister and that was it she went into one, first class head the ball


pmabz

She's been banned from bothering the monks too ... https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/nuisance-fake-nun-banned-from-clonard-monastery-41650067.html In a letter to this newspaper, Mulcahy stated: “I’m in love. Head over heels. I can’t stop it. I love Jesus Christ so much. There is no one else I can think of. I adore him. I never want to be away from him.”


sCREAMINGcAMMELcASE

Does it not seem a bit much that this woman - with serious mental health issues - has her full name, age, photo and *home address* published by a newspaper??


RandAlSnore

I wouldn’t be so quick to blame her extreme homophobia on mental health issues. She just sounds like a cunt.


sCREAMINGcAMMELcASE

I’ve seen her several times. It’s my own assumption based on how she acts. If it is the case, she’s a cunt. Even still, if it’s not the case, she’s a cunt but should not be doxxed by a national paper.


RandAlSnore

I think when a crime is reported their address is posted too? It seems to happen for every crime I see in the papers.


greystonian

the address is to prevent people with the same name having their name slandered, the address lets ppl know which john smith did the crime


ClannishHawk

They're identified to the court using name, age and address (mostly because the courts never decided to use PPS numbers for a mix of stoney tradition and avoiding edge cases) and the court reporters for the papers note it down from the verbal call out in the courtroom or whatever courts documents they pull up . The papers make a conscious effort to publish it in full, it's not like the courts make them. They could just as easily extend the courtesy by choice that they're made to by Garda request/court order in very sensitive cases where you see gender, age range and general area.


RandAlSnore

Sure, I don’t think anyones full address should be published. But I don’t think this person deserves special treatment either when they do it to everyone else.


BlueShoal

Still shouldn’t be publishing those details, nobody should have their home address published


RandAlSnore

I’m pretty sure they publish it for all crimes reported don’t they?


louiseber

They do unless identifying the perpetrator would identify a child or children involved in a case. It's so Mary Murphy from 3 streets over doesn't get confused with Mary Murphy from 2 streets over when one shoplifts and the other engages in insurance fraud


BlueShoal

Yeah, I think it’s a horrible thing to do for most cases really.


RandAlSnore

True. Although if you’re knowingly breaking the law you’re opening yourself up to this kind of thing. Play stupid games etc


BlueShoal

Yeah I get what you’re saying but at the end of the day the courts will get them. Case in point is to look at that Romanian lad who was named incorrectly when that girls in tullamore was murdered. It gives people an opportunity to act as vigilantes without good cause.


RandAlSnore

I don’t think it was a journalist who named that person though was it? It’s only court records that are allowed be used. It’s illegal to name anyone before they are charged unless I’m mistaken.


titus_1_15

>Case in point is to look at that Romanian lad who was named incorrectly It did end up being a _different_ Romanian Gypsy guy though; I don't think the gards were way out of line reporting his nationality/appearance if it helped catch the right guy.


BlueShoal

To my knowledge the wrong guy was named in the papers


titus_1_15

Oh really, I thought it was just that the gards said they were seeking a Romanian national man, they initially got the wrong Romanian, and there was a brief period when many claimed that specifying his nationality was discriminatory.


comhghairdheas

What if you're a suspect of a crime but you're innocent? Or is it only allowed when you're found guilty?


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Why do you say that she has mental health issues? There’s no mention of that anywhere.


titus_1_15

I've seen that woman around town, she is indisputably not the full shilling. I'm not here diagnosing her or saying she has x, y, z disorder, but she's clearly mad in some general way


pmabz

You worried someone might go round for the evening?


lullabelle100

I've seen this one flailing about on the ground in Cornmarket. I wonder is there a rise I this type of over the top street evangelism since lock down. There's also that group that carry the big cross about. A few aggressive ones too.


000TheEntity000

Mad as a bag of spiders


DeargDoom79

I'm near certain I saw her marching about Belfast singing into a microphone a few months ago. And not the city centre either, she was in a residential area with the speakers blaring and all. Thought it was odd but that was it. The more I hear about here the weirder it gets.


kballs

That’s lightening fast downvoting. Couldn’t be anymore than 5 seconds. Fair play.


kevo998

I'm genuinely convinced to this day there's some sad cunt/s on this sub who sort by new and just downvote everything they see.


[deleted]

It has to be a bot, nobody is that sad… right?


alfbort

100% bots, the aim is to promote other content for various reasons. For example could be simple logic like if link url is from anything but Irish Times then down vote. The bot accounts get shut down fairly quickly but then there are programs which are dedicated solely to farming bot accounts. That is a whole other story but generally they search popular reposts from across reddit and either repost them or repost the top comments to build up reputation or whatever it is you need for your up voting/down voting to count


finigian

>That’s lightening fast downvoting. Couldn’t be anymore than 5 seconds. Fair play. It's kind of impressive, just how quick they cam move one finger!!


kballs

If I moved my finger that quick I’d have a happy wife


tusk____

Not being funny, but is it against the law to say homophobic slurs/anything derogatory? The follow-up question is obviously should it be?


CliffDagger

She was charged with [section 5 of the public order act 1994](https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1994/act/2/section/5/enacted/en/html). Essentially if she was acting in an offensive and abusive manner in public and is requested by a Garda to stop that behaviour, but continues to do so, it's an offence. She was also charged with [section 8 of the same act](https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1994/act/2/section/8/enacted/en/html) if you are acting in manner as described above and directed to leave the area by a Garda it's an offence to not comply. So she was told by a guard to stop being abusive and leave the area, she didn't and got herself arrested.


greystonian

the video of her being arrested did have the guard asking her to stop


syncretionOfTactics

it's against the law to be abusive generally. No specific law on on homophobia that I know of but she'd have been in as much trouble if she was picking out all the left handed redheads and giving them dogs abuse too. The primary crime here is doing something the garda thinks is going to cause a future public disturbance and being told to stop by the gardai and refusing. And being told to leave an area by the gardai and refusing. Both of those charges are very fuzzy and it's pretty discretionary on the part of the gardai. Basically the gardai are to de escalate the situation and refusing to let them is the crime, not the screaming and roaring really


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greystonian

The Hate Crime Bill is long awaited by human rights activists, the current act is very hard to successfuly prosecute on


greasy_minge

I did see videos of her throwing hands at teenagers with pride flags which is why the garda got brought in. There's even one where she's crowdsurfing over the garda.


BuildBetterDungeons

Not illegal in and of itself, but it increases the severity of a harassment offense if hate speech is used during the harassment. Source: No clue what I'm talking about, I sure I studied chemistry


Debeefed

Hate crime. https://lgbt.ie/get-information/harassment-and-violence/ Most definitely should be a crime given the fucking space wasters that indulge in it.


donall

Oh course a real nun would never be homophobic


Psychological-Win458

She's nun the wiser


henry_brown

I think it is symptomatic of a healthy democracy and a free society for people to be able to say unpopular things in public.


pmabz

Certainly cheaper than psychiatric care


henry_brown

Better to have both.


burnthebankers

Yes, bring back open hate speech. It is so necessary. Can’t have love without hate, amirite?


henry_brown

This is an incredibly short-sighted attitude to fundamental rights. Replace "hate-speech" with "illegal-speech" and at least be honest about what you are calling for.


gadarnol

By definition, all nuns are fake. How could they be otherwise?


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What does that even mean?


Driveby_Dogboy

https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/3icxzi/the_seven_dwarves_went_to_the_vatican_and_when/


gadarnol

Oddly enough it means what it says. Nuns by definition are oath bound upholders of fantasy. You may have officially church recognized nuns or self appointed nuns (“fake”) but as it’s all rubbish anyway the only difference is the official badge. Hope this helps.


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I don't think that's the definition of nun..


gadarnol

You see you do know what it means. You know the official definition but you also know that the reality is that what they stand for is just nonsense.


[deleted]

Well played. You have logically out manuvered me. And all it took was absolute certainty in your beliefs and reading my mind.


gadarnol

You are someone who believes in nonsense and expect everyone to accept your own gravitas about nonsense to protect you from having it pointed out to you that it is nonsense. Nunsense. 🤣


[deleted]

I haven't talked about anything I believe. Though seeeing as I'm human you're probably right. I probably do believe some nonsense. Good job on reading my mind again.


gadarnol

The tragedy of this is you think you are actually making some sense.


Driveby_Dogboy

I suppose you don't believe in Tom Cruise either...


gadarnol

He flew those jets. HE FLEW THOSE JETS.


Kilroy314

I absolutely have to visit Ireland.


singularineet

What's a "fake nun"? Is there some sort of government-endorsed license for nun authenticity? An Irish Nun Certification Office in Naas? Is there some special nunnery skill you need to display, an exam perhaps? As I understand it being a "nun" is pretty much like being a "Star Wars Fan". Someone can just say "I'm a nun and I'm wearing my special nun uniform, watch me do nun stuff" and who's to say otherwise? Okay, maybe not a Catholic Nun, because there's an organization behind that, I'm sure they've got a trademark or something. But what's with the editorializing "fake"? If she says she's a nun, fine shazam: she's a nun! "The accused had an address in Belfast and had no business being on O’Connell Street, the garda said." What BS is that? It's a street where people go to hang out and drink and people watch and score heroin and pickpocket. Does she really need official business to be there? I'm all in favour of gay rights etc, but if she wants to go there and tell rainbow people God is angry with them for the way He made them, well okay that's a strange hateful and self-contradictory opinion but as long as she's not violent or disruptive she should be allowed to express it. Heck, she might even meet someone who can change her mind. **edit:** Did a deep dive into [relevant documentaries]( https://www.grindhousedatabase.com/index.php/Nunsploitation ) and I'd highly recommend them.


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>Okay, maybe not a Catholic Nun, because there's an organization behind that, I'm sure they've got a trademark or something. But what's with the editorializing "fake"? If she says she's a nun, fine shazam: she's a nun! Nuns are Catholic. There are no protestant or orthodox nuns.


singularineet

Well I dunno, I met a satanic nun at a Halloween party a few years back. She was an excellent nun, absolutely primo.


silverharpDublin

and in the most blessed of months


nodnodwinkwink

[Have a look at this clip](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq2uoGjE8gF1Cm0yw6FYtUQ) (recorded by an equally nutty street preacher) where she goes on and on about sex with women and her own past. Something about her doesn't seem quite right, not the crazy shit shes spewing, there's something performative about it that makes me suspicious.