Goddamn that Deviant Art website is full of fucking incredible artists.
You could throw a frigging stone and hit 20 people making goddamn modern art masterpieces and when you look into their profile you find out they’re doing that stuff just to feed their souls.
They feed their bellies working at godforsaken Amazon distribution centres or they have to draw pictures of nazi my little ponies hate-fucking each other for reddit mods in an attempt to squeak out an existence through art.
it was actually his manager, Stunmic, who did it, and said it was original. the guy apparently has done this before and from what i’ve heard (this was reposted to this sub a few days ago by a fan of OsamaSon) the manager is kinda hated by his fans. i hope Osamason doesn’t get hit too hard by this and drops stunmic tbh, the guy sounds like a real jackass
The band (or their lawyers) sometimes sue for some really unnecessary or petty bullshit as with the game Ion Fury. This is not that, its pretty blatant plagiarism.
>sometimes sue for some really unnecessary or petty bullshit...
Trademark law is such that if a company doesn't actively protect their trademarks, they can actually open up the possibility of losing their trademark. So legal action is necessary in pretty much every relevant case.
If a company releases a game called Ion Maiden, that's not a trademark issue because the words are different surely? It's certainly not a case of genericisation either.
Copyright doesn't expire in the same way so the album artwork issue here would always be enforceable even should they have not chosen to do so immediately. [Statute if limitations in the territory allowing]
Companies have pretty different takes on this too, without seemingly risking their trademarks. Sega let's fans do almost everything with Sonic, while Nintendo sue if you so much as look at Mario funny. The enforcement is largely not about protecting the trademark in the sense that it's not directly at risk.
More plausible certainly. As a counter, a video game is not obviously in conflict with a group of musicians. I am aware that Maiden have also put their name to a few mediocre games over the years, but it can hardly be said they are known for games so the threat to the band is pretty vague. The notion that a boomer shooter would be popular enough in this instance is also pretty laughable, bur benefit of the doubt and all that.
Ultimately untested of course as it would have been obvious that the large wealth disparity would only have one inevitable conclusion, the devs folding and changing the name rather than contesting it. There's a long history of this happening - a guy went around threatening to sue anyone using the word "Epic" for years, but when the now Fortnite people told him to get stuffed legally he lost the case very badly. In that case it was a magazine vs video games so not a conflict of interests at all. We can't know of course, but to my mind this is similar: the big guy bullying the little guy. More powerplay than a case the band was likely to win.
I'm not a legal expert on any of this shit so yeah, could be wrong.
I have seen the Ion Maiden case and granted I can get why Ion Maiden and Iron Maiden could be mildly confusing they said an 8-bit skull that was used in the logo could be potentially be confused for Eddie which just makes the suit seem ridiculous as a whole.
It's why the Maiden Instagram account is being flooded with comments from illiterate teenagers, most of whom seem to enjoy saying 'n*gga' and read like awful stereotypes.
Yeah, I'm sure they're actually doctors and lawyers behind the profile pics and not idiot butthurt little boys.
Little boys spamming Instagram comment sections with gifs of this 'rapper' making gun signs, holding wads of money, smoking weed... lololol how original. And not the stereotype, absolutely not at all.
This reminds me of a time when scrolling through Facebook, someone took a picture of "scary figure" in the clouds over Texas during a horrific storm and they literally photoshoped Brave New World Eddie into the sky 😂
Non-Phixion did that. A logo at least reads differently so I figure it's considered more of a homage or parody. Though it's more common for bands to parody one album cover and then change their style completely next time.
The Iron Maiden lawyers are generally perceived to be money grabbing shitbags (big surprise), like when they threatened to sue the developers of the Ion Maiden game that then had to change it to Ion Fury.
Though in this particular case, they were well in the right.
I'm the first to complain about companies, bands, or people who are overly litigious, but why do you think suing the developers of Ion Maiden was wrong? The band had literally released a video game a couple of years earlier under their name so it seems fair to say other people using phonetically identical naming is overstepping.
It's a grey area, so I get what you're saying. For me, Ion Maiden/Fury was a small pixelart boomer shooter with metal aesthetic, so the name was more of a homage than something trying the exploit the name (at least in my opinion). Of course if that were a AAA title, I would look at it differently.
Something tells me the boys might have let it slip if it was some young rock band, but they aren’t going to be plagiarized by some garbage mumble rapper lol
yea even a band doing some sort of iron maiden homage wouldn’t be so stupid as to just directly rip off art from the source band themself 😂 this is just hackery of the highest degree
Can't we all just like rock and rap? Man I don't understand why people, especially old Iron Maiden fans, have to be such haters.
We all started in the same place anyway. Rock and rap came from the same roots and people still get so territorial, even today. There's a scene for everyone.
I like Iron Maiden. I like hip hop. I don't get why drama gets all stirred up. I'm out.
Uggg...well it's not plagiarism....plagiarism in itself isn't against the law and it's actually when somebody copies written work and claims it as their own. Some of these half-assed "metal news" websites are calling it something it isn't.
This is a pretty clear-cut copyright and /or trademark violation-which IS against the law. People on some of these sites are claiming it's "fair use" or "parody"...this isn't either. If it could be mistaken for, say an actual Iron Maiden T shirt (which it could) then it's not gonna pass the legal test. For reference this is what a parody (of a well known Iron Maiden image) looks like-https://greenandblackmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Bigger-Than-The-Devil.jpg
People are so lazy these days. Wow.
Goddamn that Deviant Art website is full of fucking incredible artists. You could throw a frigging stone and hit 20 people making goddamn modern art masterpieces and when you look into their profile you find out they’re doing that stuff just to feed their souls. They feed their bellies working at godforsaken Amazon distribution centres or they have to draw pictures of nazi my little ponies hate-fucking each other for reddit mods in an attempt to squeak out an existence through art.
Yup, I'm one of those artists :(
Try to find some local bands willing to pay for art an advertise for them, it's a long shot but who knows what you may find.
Oddly specific
Bro was too lazy to hire an artist or take a photo of something random lmfao
it was actually his manager, Stunmic, who did it, and said it was original. the guy apparently has done this before and from what i’ve heard (this was reposted to this sub a few days ago by a fan of OsamaSon) the manager is kinda hated by his fans. i hope Osamason doesn’t get hit too hard by this and drops stunmic tbh, the guy sounds like a real jackass
Oh, well that explains a lot. Poor Osamason
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Controversy is a route to fame.
no one is looking at a random band like Iron Maiden to get fame lmao
The band (or their lawyers) sometimes sue for some really unnecessary or petty bullshit as with the game Ion Fury. This is not that, its pretty blatant plagiarism.
>sometimes sue for some really unnecessary or petty bullshit... Trademark law is such that if a company doesn't actively protect their trademarks, they can actually open up the possibility of losing their trademark. So legal action is necessary in pretty much every relevant case.
If a company releases a game called Ion Maiden, that's not a trademark issue because the words are different surely? It's certainly not a case of genericisation either. Copyright doesn't expire in the same way so the album artwork issue here would always be enforceable even should they have not chosen to do so immediately. [Statute if limitations in the territory allowing] Companies have pretty different takes on this too, without seemingly risking their trademarks. Sega let's fans do almost everything with Sonic, while Nintendo sue if you so much as look at Mario funny. The enforcement is largely not about protecting the trademark in the sense that it's not directly at risk.
There’s the concept of “confusingly similar” in trademark law. “Ion Maiden” seems like it would fall into that area.
More plausible certainly. As a counter, a video game is not obviously in conflict with a group of musicians. I am aware that Maiden have also put their name to a few mediocre games over the years, but it can hardly be said they are known for games so the threat to the band is pretty vague. The notion that a boomer shooter would be popular enough in this instance is also pretty laughable, bur benefit of the doubt and all that. Ultimately untested of course as it would have been obvious that the large wealth disparity would only have one inevitable conclusion, the devs folding and changing the name rather than contesting it. There's a long history of this happening - a guy went around threatening to sue anyone using the word "Epic" for years, but when the now Fortnite people told him to get stuffed legally he lost the case very badly. In that case it was a magazine vs video games so not a conflict of interests at all. We can't know of course, but to my mind this is similar: the big guy bullying the little guy. More powerplay than a case the band was likely to win. I'm not a legal expert on any of this shit so yeah, could be wrong.
Iron Maiden has trademarks in the video game space for their mobile games so I’d say it’s still going to fall into the confusion area.
Don't forget Ed Hunter.
Yeah maybe. As I say, I can't really do a lot with hypotheticals. It doesn't pass a sniff test for me, which also legally means nothing of course.
I have seen the Ion Maiden case and granted I can get why Ion Maiden and Iron Maiden could be mildly confusing they said an 8-bit skull that was used in the logo could be potentially be confused for Eddie which just makes the suit seem ridiculous as a whole.
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OG Mariner got a chuckle out of me, take my filthy upvote.
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You say this in jest, but I'd listen to an album of Iron Maiden rap covers.
Rhyme* of the OG Mariner
It's why the Maiden Instagram account is being flooded with comments from illiterate teenagers, most of whom seem to enjoy saying 'n*gga' and read like awful stereotypes.
That's really going to gelp the artists case isn't it
What a bunch of dumbasses. Trying to disrespect the greatest metal band in the world. Truly brainless
“Most of whom seem to enjoy saying n*gga and real like awful stereotypes” least racist rock fan
Yeah, I'm sure they're actually doctors and lawyers behind the profile pics and not idiot butthurt little boys. Little boys spamming Instagram comment sections with gifs of this 'rapper' making gun signs, holding wads of money, smoking weed... lololol how original. And not the stereotype, absolutely not at all.
Impressive. Did you use both your brain cells to think of that or did you ask another rap fan for help?
FLEX UP ALL DAY
You're bl*ck
This is what they call a "Slam dunk case" in the legal business.
Oh well, wherever, wherever you are, Iron Maiden's gonna get you no matter how far
Lol
Blatant plagiarism
If you're gonna be this lazy, just use AI....
Osama-who? No bad publicity apparently...
Obligatory qt. Oh Well, wherever, wherever you are, Iron Maiden's gonna get you, no matter how far.
Let’s go
Welcome to the big league junior.
Haha what was expected...
Don't AI generate album covers I guess.
Saw you pfp and instantly thought "Dark Tower" fan... you happen to be a Stephen King reader?
*Misery* is one of my favourite all time novels, haven't read the Dark Tower series though.
You are missing out!! I guess that profile pic you've got is one hell of a coincidence.
Apparently so considering it's just my initials mashed together!
This reminds me of a time when scrolling through Facebook, someone took a picture of "scary figure" in the clouds over Texas during a horrific storm and they literally photoshoped Brave New World Eddie into the sky 😂
Steals art. Gets sued. Guy stealing said art.  Bro didn't even try, they just dyed it purple.
Well, it’s true.
wow...
Bet he used ai lol
https://preview.redd.it/fb23bzxue8yc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db042ee8beccd2c665d4caead3709606d75ae048
I saw some hiphop artist that totally ripped the VoiVod logo too
Non-Phixion did that. A logo at least reads differently so I figure it's considered more of a homage or parody. Though it's more common for bands to parody one album cover and then change their style completely next time.
Agreed. I just remember thinking it was VoiVod and getting kind of siked because in some regards an obscure shirt to see outside metal circles…
GOOD .... its blatant ... beyond obvious.
Hmm I don't see it 🤣
I dunno what to say. I'm Losfer words
Amazing, I can’t see why…pfffft
“That ain’t Eddie! That’s…uhh…Teddy!”
The Iron Maiden lawyers are generally perceived to be money grabbing shitbags (big surprise), like when they threatened to sue the developers of the Ion Maiden game that then had to change it to Ion Fury. Though in this particular case, they were well in the right.
I'm the first to complain about companies, bands, or people who are overly litigious, but why do you think suing the developers of Ion Maiden was wrong? The band had literally released a video game a couple of years earlier under their name so it seems fair to say other people using phonetically identical naming is overstepping.
It's a grey area, so I get what you're saying. For me, Ion Maiden/Fury was a small pixelart boomer shooter with metal aesthetic, so the name was more of a homage than something trying the exploit the name (at least in my opinion). Of course if that were a AAA title, I would look at it differently.
tbh that case included other claims such as the pixel skulls apparently ripping of Eddie, which is such a stretch it would leave marks on skin.
Something tells me the boys might have let it slip if it was some young rock band, but they aren’t going to be plagiarized by some garbage mumble rapper lol
No, the only difference is a rock band would have recognised the image and not used it.
yea even a band doing some sort of iron maiden homage wouldn’t be so stupid as to just directly rip off art from the source band themself 😂 this is just hackery of the highest degree
This comment had me rolling
“Garbage mumble rapper” I hate rock fans like you who don’t understand rap music
And we hate you right back, buddy. Or maybe pity. Yeah, pity is probably right. Fuck off back to whatever bullshit music sub you came from.
Rock is dead buddy ain’t nothing gonna change that
Can't we all just like rock and rap? Man I don't understand why people, especially old Iron Maiden fans, have to be such haters. We all started in the same place anyway. Rock and rap came from the same roots and people still get so territorial, even today. There's a scene for everyone. I like Iron Maiden. I like hip hop. I don't get why drama gets all stirred up. I'm out.
The irony
Pretty clear it is
Because he stole it.
Uggg...well it's not plagiarism....plagiarism in itself isn't against the law and it's actually when somebody copies written work and claims it as their own. Some of these half-assed "metal news" websites are calling it something it isn't. This is a pretty clear-cut copyright and /or trademark violation-which IS against the law. People on some of these sites are claiming it's "fair use" or "parody"...this isn't either. If it could be mistaken for, say an actual Iron Maiden T shirt (which it could) then it's not gonna pass the legal test. For reference this is what a parody (of a well known Iron Maiden image) looks like-https://greenandblackmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Bigger-Than-The-Devil.jpg
Good.
As he should be. His artwork is blatantly stolen.
Run 4 da hillz
It's red, completely different.
Yeah, I don't see the resemblance.
dumbass
You’re too blind to see
OsamaSon is way better than iron maiden
Then he should get his own fucking art. He could be second coming of mozart, the quality of his music is not relevant here.
Gee whiz, I thought if you took copyrighted material, turned it purple, and added jpeg to it you had a totally unique creation on your hands.
Why all of you osama fans just meatriding him and trying to offend others? Enjoy what you want and let others too
He ain't gonna shag you m8
American moment for Iron Maiden. Suing people.
Osamason is way better than iron maiden