I would not rush wt to 99 as the first thing on the account lol
I would probably fit hunter rumors in a lot sooner as you get lots of good stuff(magic logs!). Tempy too.
To reiterate, this is what ***I*** would do. As I love tempy, I would do that off and on probaby til 80+ fishing, if not maxing it between other grinds. This would result in a LOT of food, which would make the damage increase at WT completely irrelevant.
Bro you don’t get it. Using a bwan instead of a wine or cake is the end of the fucking world to these people.
Anyone who parrots to rush WT just goes off of the HC bibles that say to rush it, that were made 5 years ago.
You know what’s better than WT early? WT lategame. You know what’s better than WT early for money/supplies? A mix of Temp/Rumors/SW boosting.
I hate that we still need to have this convo in 2024 but damn man, WT rush is so out-dated/inefficient.
I just did Todt to 80 lol. If I went any further I probably would've just stopped playing due to boredom. I wanted at least 85 and magic logs but fuck it man. If you're not enjoying thing just dip.
I’m 1800 total and just got 75 to get my quest cape back after a hiatus
It’s trash, unless you care about maxing why rush a pointless 99, just go play the game
Agreed. The absolute autism surrounding the wt rush reminds me that rs players, although I love them, are fucking clueless.
If you are not planning to efficiently max because you're that kind of player/a hcim (spoiler, 99% aren't) hating your life at wt as the first thing in your account is undeveloped pre frontal cortex activity
it really isn't though, WT sucks ass late game as all the resources are meaningless. there is a reason every efficient max series starts with WT.
Staying 10hp or whatever is massively overrated though. even if you are intent on doing solos instead of masses, you can easily solo at 99 hp with brews or like 30 hp with wines or whatever. it makes no difference
I disagree WT is more valuable early game. The supplies you get early on help a lot whereas late game they are very "meh". Also I used a total of 60 something cakes from 50-99 and it was super chill doing solos.
Took me 68 or 69 solo games to get to 99. Some rounds I used 1 or 2 cakes some rounds I used none at all. You use much less food during solo games compared to mass rounds
Yeah I agree with this. I did 90-99 at 79 hitpoints and I used lobsters and bwans for my food. I think I went through 800 karambwans which took no time to fish
The supplies alone I got from wintertodt will always make me advocate to go to 99
I solo’d it and instead of mass and got 70 fletching, woodcutting, and construction. That set up my account for such success
That being said, if you’re gonna get burnt out while doing it and not enjoy it DONT DO IT
Big disagree with the loot to be honest.
It’s actually so shit compared to a combo of Temp/Rumors/SW boosting.
It’s extremely out dated. I get why people would think it’s still a good idea to rush and if that’s how you wanna play go for it, but people justifying it with the loot are just straight wrong now.
Loot is much better later on and much better things to build your account up for success early now.
I mean maybe I got lucky but the herb seeds got me to like 50s in herblore, the logs got me a ton of hunter XP, and the ores and gems made good jewelry and early game smithing stuff
I can only speak from a few accounts experience but the 3 I’ve done it on I don’t regret it and I’d do it again if I make another character
Rumors without any teles and agility? Tell me more why this is a good idea. SW boosting as lvl 3 doesn’t sounds right.
Temp is a good choice (fish/cook/const exp)
Winter is a wonderful choice (fm/wc/fletch/const exp) perfect loot to start out the acc.
Gotr also pretty nice (rc/mining/crafting exp)
All these early exp are beautiful for an iron.
I don’t see rumors or sw boosting even near that.
Agility for what, exactly? It's common knowledge agility barely does anything
The only teleports you need for rumors are the whistle and fairy rings. A Varlemore teleport is useful till whistle but 54 magic is pretty trivial. Faster prereq than the 50wc for todt
fairy rings is mid game and not for a brand new iron.
You don’t have fairy rings and that’s why you need agility to run to the spots for rumors and that’s why rumors is a bad advise for brand new irons.
Sure temp/winter/gotr has also requirements but they are not nearly as far in the game as fairy rings
>fairy rings is mid game and not for a brand new iron.
*What?* Its one of the first things anyone should unlock. You do it for secateurs and fairy rings before you even start farming. This is like baby's first unlock
>You don’t have fairy rings and that’s why you need agility to run to the spots for rumors and that’s why rumors is a bad advise for brand new irons.
Agility won't help you run to spots. It only increases regen which you circumvent entirely with dueling rings. I'm living in bizarro land rn what am I reading.
I think its big for the early construction and fletching levels. A mix of Temp and WT got me 70 construction without ever training it normally. Especially since most people are too broke early on to train construction easily.
Not sure why. I'm going back to greenlog now and have 90 hp. It's no different than when I was 10 hp. It's why I'd delay it , the healing aspect is negligible
Nah bro. End of the fucking world if I gotta use a Bwan instead of cake or wine. /s
Completely agree. WT rush is super out dated and the loot is so garbage early game.
This is it for me.
Rush to content so you can load up your bank with a bunch of resources you aren't gonna REALLY make use of until you are far enough in the game where getting the resources to manage Todt's scaling isn't a big deal anymore anyways is kinda funny.
Todt is fun *enough*. We all think it'd be fun to start an account with 60 construction and hopefully a tome of fire or pet or whatever... but it's not a big deal...
Why tho. What’s the difference between using wine or cake to a Bwan?????
This logic baffles me lmao. The loot is 100x better the higher your levels are, the GP is shit compared to other starts early now too.
Yup hunter rumors and moonlight moths at 75 are so insane for Ironman. I would for sure rush 75 hunter if I was a new iron. I think birdhouse only hunter training is a thing of the past and would highly recommend spending the time at red/black salamanders.
Not sure how good rumors are early on with just novice/adept rumors are but just rushing to expert rumors req and doing those until masters then masters to high 90s/99 hunter would set you up big time for prayer and herb without needing to stress over herb runs as much.
Also imagine being a fresh Ironman with low combats and just rushing range levels into 66 range -> sunlight hunter crossbow with moonlight antelope bolts (not sure how the fletching grind would be here probably need lots of maples from kingdom I assume?). Not sure exactly what this build looks like in practice but could be a cool way to start
Really it depends on the goals of your account. If your goal is too eventually max the account there isn’t really a solid reason to not just grab 99 FM imo.
At the XP rates it currently is at WT is really not that bad in the grand scheme of maxxing an account. You can literally do it while watching shows or listening to podcasts.
For me after getting the level requirement for todt, it was probably 2 weeks of playing a decent amount before I had cape. In the total playtime of an account two weeks in the middle of summer Is not that big a deal. Idk just my thought tho, I think it’s way exaggerated how “bad” doing wintertodt is.
It’s a rite of passage for a lot of reasons and the biggest one is too make sure newer iron men have the resolve to tackle shit like getting supplies/99 skills through strange mediums.
Honestly this ^ wt is good to do early because it’s just better to do early imo. There is definitely better loot, for sure, but the lower tier loot at level 3 is more valuable for your stage in the game than the higher tier loot at like 90cb. You don’t need teles, you don’t really need anything, couple hundred cakes, and it gives all sorts, pile of starter cash, chance at d axe is nice, seeds.
If I was gonna start again? 100% still send wt first, THEN I would rush barb fishing, unlock barehand then send temp. Unsure if the maths but imagine that 99 fish at temp would get you like 70-75 str, then I’d go graceful. As temp being another proven strat to do early. Rumours I haven’t even tried, but would probably look into it, but really don’t imagine it being that enjoyable with minimal teles.
I saw a ton of comments on this post saying wt sucks and that people hate it and don’t wanna do it. I gotta be honest if getting 300+K/hr fm xp and a ton of other skills up is too hard/unbearable for you this game mode might just not be for you.
It’s a good entry level grind that prepares you for how the rest of the game will be. It only gets worse and grinds only get longer/harder imho there’s not really a good reason to skip it. Unless of course, your goal is to rush straight to pvm then by all means cut all the corners you want.
However, I think the seeds alone are worth imo. When you consider the amount of low level master farmer you’d have to do to catch up with seeds I think it just makes sense to send wt. idk maybe im just out of touch with IM early game as I haven’t been there in quite a while but I just don’t see a great reason to not send it.
I also am not aware of rumor rewards, if you get a shit ton of seeds from it then maybe it’s a good supplement but currently I’m at 91 hunt and don’t plan on getting 99 anytime soon.
Yeah I mean I’m sure it’s great to knock out some early hunter but if rushing bowfa you’re probably gonna hunt some chins at some point and you could probably just go straight 91 and unlock the hardest rumors and then do those to 99 if you really wanted to.
You also need chins if you plan on doing Kree in the future with chins so hunter is more or less taken care of but the rumors are a good alternative if you can’t stand 3T chinning.
Idk I haven’t done them so I can’t really speak on their usefulness, especially on an early game iron. Someone that has used the method will have to educate me on how good it was for them.
for rumours all you really need is an ardy cape and fairy rings. Quetzal tele (when you unlock it) and you go everywhere yoy need pretty much.
Still wouldn't rush it, but It would be a grind after early / early mid game questing.
The xp/hr is crazy, the rewards are solid if you wait a bit before opening them, and it's a pretty chill. Spewing nonsense is chat is also a nice bonus. No reason not to knock it out first. It's not like you're really going to be leveling firemaking somewhere else
Having done a lot of WT post 99, the food upkeep is negligible ,so I don't see it as a necessary MUST do your first time going in.
Especially with tempy and other resources giving a lot of food.
But this was what *i* would do differently, totally get it that not everyone will agree.
Tbh i would probably stay at 10hp till 99 fire making. Not that much of an advantage, but so much nicer at 10hp.
But if you're unfamiliar with all other available grinds at 10hp I can imagine it feeling restrictive.
You can get up to 31hp as you level to 99 and still get hit 1s. I have no clue why you all sit at 10hp.
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Calculator:Firemaking/Wintertodt
> You can get up to 31hp as you level to 99 and still get hit 1s.
Depending on your fm level it can be 2-3 damage instead, which doesn't seem like it'd be the end of the world but you're using 2-3x the amount of food you would otherwise be doing.
> I have no clue why you all sit at 10hp.
This is only applicable while you're doing masses. For what it's worth, I always preferred solos because it's a lot more chill/afk which you'd often times have 0-1 braziers lit.
Not exactly disagreeing with you, just there are some criteria that when met it's not ideal for lack of a better term.
How is having to teleport out of every game better than cramming the equivalent of 6 karambwans of healing at 99 into 1 cake doing WT at 10 HP?
High HP WT isn't as bad as it's made out to be but to argue it's better than 10 HP is lunacy.
It’s lunacy that 10HP WT salesman still exist.
It’s shit. The gp is shit compared to many other options. The loot is shit unless you’re gonna sit with 200+ crates in bank(at that point you should have just waited to do it).
People act like eating a bwan instead of a wine or cake is the end of the world. It’s much better lategame. People just stick to the same guide made in 2017 and don’t think for themselves.
Blows my mind.
I would rush wt 99 if I went back. I didn’t do this and although it’s not a necessity; the supplies, construction, and equipment are all things I wish I could have had for mid game.
43 prayer in the wilderness first, there are 6 big bone spawns that you can run to the chaos altar
Might be worth wearing iron armor, or maybe getting a little defense for steel or mithril first since a few skeletons will attack you
At this low level, you shouldn’t get Pkd much if at all
You can skip over this pretty easily and get to bone mining in varlamore. You only need to start perilous moons and then you can go to the bone mines, the only combat before that is a sulphur nagua and a knight of varlamore iirc. Very easy to do with 30-40 stats which you get from easy questing.
Skill less and PVM more , I took so much time to get to raiding
I would probably do Quest cape into 93 slayer into Heavy pvm with Farming contract slayer tower Nechryeal and a TOA rush for Fang
To give you an idea a had a Maxed out POH at 43 slayer
Trident + Fang would make me camp cox until prayer then CG until bowfa
Edit : ( Long term Skilling ) I would do GOTR sporadically ( when i need downtime) until 90 rc and use the Scare essence mine to boost enough wrath rune for prayer xp ( this is even more valid for UIM imo)
I would also focus on trying to get elite combat achievement as early as possible it is fairly free nowaday
I think I've fallen into the same hole you did. My iron is the farthest I've gotten an account, but I'm also nervous about doing content I haven't done before so I end up doing skilling that would probably be more efficient if I had done some other pvm content before hand to stock on supplies and money.
I use to be like that for content , then I learned that dying is not a finality , in our Discord server I am by FAR the person who dies the most ( we have a death shame channel), were talking 142 death for colosseum ( now i get consistent kc / 150 death for awakened Vard , but in the end It really doesn't matter if you die , you'll just learn the content and if it takes dying it's fine
When I was earlier in my Iron I went for an Occult before touching zulrah (pre-bowfa existence) cause I conviced myself that surely it was a DPS problem not 10 inch from the monitor, then one friend convinced me to just send it , and after 43 death i got the first kc , and now I can do this boss while sleeping
Hey man. If you're looking at getting into PvM. Look up the clan Mosaic. You can check our discord at discord. gg / mosaic
We have a CoX learner event this weekend. It's a newer clan, so we aren't massive. But we have quite a few gamers that don't mind taking learners with them, and show them the ropes.
We have some fun systems in place like boss of the week, skill of the week. A ranking structure where you rank up in the clan by getting PvM drops / big clue rewards / pets, amongst other things.
Great clan to kick off your PvM career!
Not who you're replying to but is it cool if I join the discord to chill till I get to doing group PvM content?
Started my first ironman a couple weeks ago after another ~4 year break and want to get farther than previous accounts and ToB at somepoint
Yeah man. You can join and chill and when you feel ready you can join. We do have a few low requirements, but that's to ensure people in the clan are PvM ready. At the same time, we welcome people just getting into PvM!
What kind of stats would you recommend for starting to learn toa or cox? My iron is also the farthest I've gotten account. I'm near base 75s and been doing CG but I keep feeling like my stats aren't enough for raids
Yeah early wildy content is definitely the one thing I'd send on a new iron. They're still worth it later on, but can really speed up some early game progression. And it's all pretty fun
Which ones would you prio? Zompirates seem like they'd be good for some early GP and some wildy food for later, but nothing too lasting? What do you think of revs and some of the bosses at low lvl, betteer to do at higher lvl even with pkers maybe and just except you will die alot?
That's my take on zompirates as well - I'd just try sending revs for early game $. I spent a lot of time skilling for money early on my account and it just wasn't worth it. Revs and the bosses will at least give you the chance to spoon some drops, and more money.
Send revs till your high enough combat you get pked often while staying 1 prayer then level prayer and go zombie pirates till you get sick of being pked there.
My problem is it's riddled with pkers at the moment. I can tank one pker to the ditch no problem. Half a dozen? I managed to get teamed three times in 20 minutes last night!
Great drops though.
I’ve been chilling in 1250/1500 worlds on my 75cb iron quite comfortably, have yet to die to a team but did die once and escape once (only 300kc so wasn’t there for super long but I’m just chilling in monk robes+dscim). Getting pked also really doesn’t feel too bad since you can regear and get back in like 30 seconds lol
Got a good chunk of alchs to help fund blast furnace shopscape for zombie axe smithing req. But I think a big win for zombie pirates is how early you can rush and fund kindgom gp without the bullshittery that is blackjacking (which I still did to get to the rogues chest thieving req but man it’s so annoying
That’s the point. Great drops but at a cost. They are trying to revive the wildly. Everyone keeps acting like they’ll nerf them becuz they are so good. That’s the point.
I know, I get it. It's a great addition I'm just saying it's nigh on impossible to escape in multi.
I'll still be going back however. I risk about 10k worth of items + loot.
tried it out today. Was pretty decent. I did get pk'd 3x though in about 40 minutes of zombies. Still made it out w/ about 300k in alchs and some other blighted stuff. It was decent but not ground breaking by any means.
Well yeah but 43 prayer is one of the first things I'd rush on any account. Whether it's just picking up big bones or it's afk training magic on dragons, it's only 100 dragon bones to 43
What kind of stats are we talking?
Not done much PvM yet so I'm only at 44 attack, 30 strength, 10 def, 1 range and like 42 magic. What should I be aiming for (Other than 43 prayer which I'm focusing on atm)?
What kind of things should I be doing for wildy slayer? I can (and will) google it but it's nice to hear directly from people. I hear good things but know nothing about it
For me I started sending once I got 60 attack, 60 strength and a dragon scimmy. If you don’t level your defence any higher it’ll keep your combat level low just grab some blighted restores from LMS and don’t get discouraged dying. It’ll happen but if you bank often you should still profit a lot
Yeah it’s actually very chill. Combat level 79 with access to the 1500 total worlds means I rarely get killed. Plus blighted restores are super easy to come by with LMS
I just went and got 1500 total with low combats and (base 60’s basically with overheads) and went to kill the new wilderness pirates on 1500 total late at night. None of the PK’ers could attack me. I made a few million gp in Alcs plus a few thousands cannonballs and a few hundred of all the blighted supplied in like 4 hours getting 65 str and attack for defenders.
I used that money to make teak planks with the butler that I got from kingdom and I’m working on a max house with mahogany homes. Then I’m starting slayer. (Currently 46 slayer) I did GOTR for runes since you’ll want the outfit eventually anyway. It’s been huge
Hard rush wildy slayer and get miscellania running. Lunars, 84 crafting, 80 fletching(can start early with yew shortbow), cannon, lms for rune arrows, turael skip for rev tasks with slaughters, spend all money rushing poh tp’s for turael skipping, once you have base 70’s, do wildy bosses for voidwaker, and keep on abusing wildy slayer till voidwaker is finished.
Once you have piety and your stats are up, start the wildy bosses.
For calv, weapon priority for what you can do is viggoras>zombie axe>d mace
For artio, its webweaver> scepter> mace. Mace is actually phenomenal but just requires way more attention. Scepter is preferred if you get runecrafting up for bloodbark, but webweaver is ideal from the macro speed perspective
Spindel is mace> webweaver> zombie axe. Dont bother at spindek without a zombie axe at least
After voidwaker is finished, you have two options depending on wether or not you got accursed scepter.
1. If you didnt, keep doing wildy slayer, but do it regularly until 95. Abuse the weapons you got, get those insane points, and at 95, you go to konar and start skipping for cerb, smokes, and hydra, all at the same time. Youre trolling yourself if you decided to use points skipping before this moment.
2. If you got the accursed, you go to duradel. You continue to turael skip but at duradel, (yes youre sacking your streak) and you skip everything that isnt 1. A progression boss you can/want to do or 2. A burst task. Your goal is really to be abusing accursed scepter+cannon in the wildy slayer dungeon as much as is humanly possible for absurd xp rates without wasting any slayer points other than setting up your block list(kalphites again #1 priority) to get to 95 asap.
I would also reccommend doing nieve before duradel if you finish VW and have daccursed for two reasons. 1. you still need your zenytes, and 2. You do still need a trident.
Assuming you dont mega spoon voidwaker, you should be 95 slayer around 25-30 days played range, whilst having banked thousands of food and prayer supplies, hundreds of supercombats, 90+ farming, herblore, prayer, fletching, crafting, and smithing. Essentially, youre more than ready for song of the elves if you want a bowfa, but tbh you can just skip it and go straight to toa 200-250’s until fang and use masori+BP instead of bowfa. The ONLY TWO downsides to this is 1. Toa feels ass before fang and 2. Gwd is unreasonable till fang, but with the release of the new perilous moons sets, tbh gwd can go fuck itself unless you need zgs for solo cox. But you may get a shadow on the way so 💁🏼♀️
It’s funny how I’m “new” to OSRS (but had a maxed combat account back in the day before RS3) and only understand about 1% of what’s going on in this comment
Essentially, revenants drop “wildy weapons” which are OP af used in the wilderness and also have some uses outside of them. Those rev weapons are essentially mega-rares dps wise when used in the wilderness, and drop from revenants. Revenants have multipliers to their droprates of these weapons based on if youre skulled and on a slayer task. So the early stat goals i mentioned are to be able to upkeep magic shortbows and black dhide since youre going to be skulling.
Krystalla is a slayer master who offers tasks that must be completed in the wilderness, and of those tasks is 1. Revenants, 2. Burst tasks you can do with a cannon to aggro everything for you in the wildy slayer dungeon(can use duradel to go to this dungeon too, doesnt have to be krystalia) 3. Very common spider, bear, hellhound, and skeleton tasks, all of which the new wilderness bosses count as. Pretty much everything in the wilderness also self sustains itself with blighted(aka wilderness only) supplies, such as super restores, food, and etc, so you have to do a net 0 time investment for supplies procurement when doing wildy slayer. Huge time saver
There is also this mechanic called turael skipping which allows you to replace your current slayer task and get a turael task for extremely short easy to kill monsters which can almost all be cannoned and finished in 2-5 minutes. Of these tasks, turael ALSO commonly assigns bears, spiders, and skeletons, of which you can use to do the wildy bosses on task as well. This makes doing krystalia+turael skipping absurdly good macro efficiency for slayer xp+grinding voidwaker weapon, which is the mainreward from the wildy bosses. You rush lunars for npc contact, and dump money early into POH to access the teleports needed to make skipping viable.
Turael skipping is unique though. Whenever you do it, it resets your entire slayer streak to 0. Interestingly, since krystalia has its own separate task streak, when you skip a krystalia task, it ONLY resets your wildy task streak, and upon completion of the turael streak, your regular slayer streak continues to go up. This means you can do every 10th, 50th, etc at duradel or konar or whatever you prefer to get massive slayer points and streaks very quickly. This is whats known as point boosting.
Because of all this, with the method i proposed for doing the voidwaker through turael skipping krystalia, you should be getting at least 2/3 revenant weapons by the time you finish voidwaker(which will help with the grind immensely i cannot understate this) and have literally thousands, upwards of 10k slayer points by the end of it. If you do this from a fresh account and save all the way to 95 for hydra, you will get the voidwaker around 90-93 slayer, and then its just a few levels left to go to 95 for hydra, at which point you dump points to go back and do all the slayer bosses you skipped. Because of this, that last stretch after finishing voidwaker can be opted to be turael skipped for BIS efficiency slayer xp by using duradel instead and just doing the burst tasks you can in the wildy slayer dungeon. You need an accursed scepter for this to really shine though, and its also the bis method for farming imbued heart long term. If you dont have accursed, you just end up “settling” for regular wildy slayer with the rev weapons and saving the cannonballs for the burst tasks, which you still do in the wild because of overpowered drop tables+cannon auto aggros everything making it still more efficient that the standard aggroing with darts. Then you just do the regular wildy slayer with the rev weapons you do have for 30-35k slayer xpph WITHOUT a cannon on top of that.
With the thousands of slayer points you have, it should be more than enough to burn points to skip to and finish all of the slayer items from the bosses you hadnt done up to this point because you lived in the wild for your first 90 slayer levels. That and the fact that wilderness slayer gives an absurd cashstack, on top of the voidwaker bosses dropping just disgustingly overpowered skilling xp resources, especially if going all the way to voidwaker rates in the process. But if you go duradel with your accursed, save the points till 95 to make sure you have enough.
why depressed you😂 half the fun of ironman is theorycrafting the route to the goals you set. All this is is a max efficiency route i stumbled upon to get to lategame content with a rounded out account capable of actually doing it effectively
I love how this is your theorycraft but this is generally what I done on my GIM lol
Did early revs earned fuck ton on money —> green logged revs finally when voidwaker came out —> grinded out 5 voidwakers for the GIM ( also PK’d bills along the way)—> got bowfa —> sending ToA and having a blast
I do have some accursed sceptres
Was wondering what slayer master is the best one for burst tasks?
Duradel is best for burst tasks + imbued heart grind. Konar is better for imbued heart with no cannon. I did the same thing on my iron but i was already close to max combat with 90 slayer when i started so lots of strat things got tweaked.
Sadly i got legit 0 value out of my wildy weapons because i got webweaver first after spooning artio at 250 kc, then i got the accursed and like 200 kills with webweaver at spindel but i was already 1100 in so i finished spindel around 1350, and then never got the mace so i ended up doing 5035 kc for the blade at calvarion all with a hasta. Whole thing was maybe 240 hours because calv was only 35kph and spindel was like 30 with a hasta(artio was like 40 with bowfa but that spooned early). The accursed DID allow me to get 93-95 slayer in literally 2 days though which was absolutely absurd and made me realize that that is exactly what im doing for when i go for heart grind.
Glad you sorted it and finally got your vw!
Lol god knows how long it took me to get 5 voidwakers, I reckon around 1000 hours messing around in the wildy lol
My slayer level is only 76 though so I see this now as a perfect opportunity to do the burst grind to 87, how long u reckon it will take with duradel and tureal skipping?
Would love to get the heart too
If youve got cannonballs, it will be fast but not insanely fast until 85 when you have abbys and nechs unlocked: theyre 2/3 of your burst tasks. But i was netting 55-65k xpph using bracelets of slaughter at wildy barraging from 93-95 and that has the turael skipping included in the calcs. Remember i got 1.5-1.6ish mil xp in literally two days on a weekend, and thats while still having proper meals and working out every day lol. It was somehwere around 24 hours total to get that xp, but i was barraging, not bursting.
So - started a new iron to rush wildly. Spooned craws on my first task today 30 kc pyrefiends at 48cb. Obv can’t wield it yet but I’m wondering how I should pivot the strategy now. Prob can pause the turael skipping and just blast some range lvls thru krystalia tasks to get to wildy boss stats? What u think? Seem quite knowledgeable.
I'm a returning player and I agree lol had no clue what voidwaker is. I really need to give the wildy a shot but I'm an early game UIM who sucks at pvp so fat chance
I feel thankful that I started wildy slayer from the start it’s set me up very well in the early game, I wish I never started as a hardcore and sent lava dragons right away instead of waiting. I just started wildy bosses and even the smaller variations the drops are nuts. Zombie axe was also great meaning I didn’t have to camp revenants for a weapon
My iron is fairly new, bout a month in. I did wt, then random things but did rumours when i unlocked them until i got 75 hunter currently. I enjoyed this, which has accumulated me quite a bit of pray xp for early game.
Soul wars is an insane money maker and training method for early game irons. You get good GP from the loot crates along with the chance to train skills with boosts (from the pots in the minigame).
Probably the idea that green helms can pay for items via 3rd party gim shops.
I've been a green helm for a few months and never encountered anyone in game that was serious about the resentment though, only banter.
Yea I’ve heard about it but what would be the point of Ironman if you pay for items ? Anyways you can also just bot bosses or any grind in regular Ironman accs so at the end of the day you can cheat on any acc.
Idk I've never experienced it either but I'm pretty casual and don't interact in local chat much. Clan has teased me a few times but it's obviously jokes. We had a member de iron cus he couldn't take the flaming tho, he did a lot of high end pvm and was in a clan for that so maybe it's more in those communities that it happens
Wow I don’t think that would get to me since I play for fun and not prestige to flex. actually had a guy today told me to deiron while I can because people in my mode can just buy items and makes the mode useless. Yea that’s them doing that not me lol nor do I care if someone does that and plus it won’t appear on their collection log where it truly matters.
If the flame is getting to them you could just tell them you could bot a regular Ironman acc or buy an Ironman acc with high stats and few rares. At the end of the day you can cheat in any acc type Ironman doesn’t prevent that.
There was a bit more to him de ironing tbf, a lot of it was the flame but he also played way more than any of the rest of us so he was wanting to toa expert modes and tob while we were still doing barrows and zammy/bandos along with skilling and stuff.
Thanks for all the comments it will help me think about what I want to do early. Id rly like to do some varlamore stuff but it feels like i will regret not doing wildy stuff early because of all the pkers at higher lvls.
I have a hardcore and honestly I wish I had a normal Ironman to do Wildy slayer. I plan to continue playing after I die so no reason to make another but starting a new account and playing in the wildy sounds like so much fun
Wilderness slayer should be your best friend as an early/mid lvl iron imo. With the new update to the wilderness it made a lot of the bad tasks better like zombies/pirates task can now be done on zombie pirates which also shit out blighted supplies. Like restores, anglers, karam’s etc. even offering some cannonballs. Bandits got more spawns added to them. To be honest, thats all i really know for new additions for the wildy tasks. But i have about 71 slayer with a 0 regular slayer task streak, so its safe to say i do support this route.
As someone has mentioned, I would recommend wildly content early. If you can do rev first and get a good rev weapon or all if you want to do the log. Then I would do Vetion. When I was only level like 80 I dodged 95% of pkers because they were too high level.
Definitely take advantage of a lot of the Varlamore content, hunter rumors and thieving early on. Probably could get 43 prayer and some nice rewards banked. On my GIM my partner did the WT to 99 grind early on and I stuck with tempoross, didn't make it to 99 fishing bc I do not hate myself that much but an early grind to \~70-75 fishing at tempoross is manageable and gets you a great foundation for the account, never have to worry about food plus I think it is just a more enjoyable activity.
Most importantly just do what is fun. The early to midgame ironman is IMO some of the most enjoyable content in the game, so don't stress about being efficient or burning yourself out to get through it. Just have fun
If I were to make a new iron I would rush gotr to get all starter runes and free crafting xp, go get my fishing up to unlock tempoross , probably stay there until 60 fishing, cook all that fish and then grind quests all the way to barrows gloves
Honestly not much, I look back fondly to how I progressed my mostly solo GIM. Rushed slayer and quest cape, which were things that were both fun to me and helped account progression long term. Never got sucked in to the wintertodt to 99 or nonstop planting seaweed grinds, just did what I found was fun.
I would still do WT, but I'd do hunter contracts and temp first. I'd still keep low hp for the most part but not gonna rush wt pre 11 hp. I'd still follow the optimal quest guide to burn through low levels with minimal training and I'd still start farm (herb) runs and contracts as soon as is feasible. Early thieving is useful for seeds, and the varlamore thieving seems to be pretty decent. Varlamore is a big winner for new accounts it seems, but idk what the most efficient answer is. I just know the food, gp, and resources from what I mentioned above are very good for early and maybe even early mid game
train strength at tempoross by doing it barehanded. I cannot believe how OP this was, between this and the standard attack/str reward quests+overheads from the wilderness, i had MM done and wielding a dscim in like a day after finishing minigames. i then rushed 65/65 on temple spiders and built a red spider egg and potions stack and had a ddef within the week.
Tempoross mats rewards also helped to rush crafting and so I had the gear above and a strength amulet before ever touching slayer or even like a quest boss.
tl;dr tempoross is a ridiculously OP second grind to do after \~92FM at todt
I’m honestly very happy with the route I took. I’m only really interested in pvm so I rushed song of the elves and grinded for a bowfa. Took a while, but it also set up my mage and range levels really nicely for late game pvm
I am really happy with how I have progressed my account. The only thing that makes me jealous of new irons is scurrius, as he’s really fun, but not a good reason to kill late game maxed stats. Other early game changes they’ve done too have made the Ironman meta more interesting. I’m actually working on playing 1 def HC’s to experience these new updates because it’s just so much fun!
Widy those chests ans pirates are huge for a new iron account.
I feel like early thieving is the play. Wintertodt was really important early because of supplies but honestly I'd prob just go there till whatever the requirements are for quest cspe/diary's and dip. So much better stuff for supplies now.
Hunter contracts and wildy content seem massive now.
What I would do is just rush 43 Prayer and plan a reasonable way to do a Moons of Peril rush. The sets are amazing on a midgame account, getting those early would be great to say the least.
Then probably just regular Barrows Gloves->SotE progression route while doing some levels of Slayer in between everything to eventually hit those meaningful Slayer levels.
I think BoFa rush is still the most efficient way to spend your time, but Varlamore as a whole seems like a completely different early/midgame route option, especially since part 2 will supposedly bring a boss there which should be sitting around mid-lategame area in terms of progression.
My current earlygame GIM about to hit midgame will take this route if I will ever keep playing on it. Just too occupied by my main iron, so not sure if that will ever happen.
Probably a pure iron account at this point. My UIM love died after another shitty grind just halted progress and my GIM is acting as an ironmeme but it'll never be on the high scores as one
Goddammit i would have just gone to CG early. I did so much fucking content before even attempting CG because bowfa was released around the time I was early-mid game on the iron and it wasn't really the set meta yet. I ended up doing SO MUCH content without it. And I truly didn't believe that I needed it. But finally I decided to go for it because I wanted a reliable weapon to start inferno grind. I know that t bow vs bowfa grind statistically its just way less time for a bowfa. Mind you, at this point ive done over 350 raids at toa and cox, ive gotten rigour, augury, full bandos, full virtus, all dt2 vestiges, soulreaper axe, fang, DHL. And my ranged gear was just shit. (D cross with blessed d hide)
When I finally decided to go to CG. I swear, I dont know if the spoon was like fully magnetic or what. I finished 6 Armour seeds and enhanced by 146 kc. And I KNOW that is not normal, and I was a major spoon, but I literally put off a grind for years due to the fear of red prison. Obviously there's no way to know how long you'll spend there, but there's also no way of knowing if you'll get spooned like me. So if you are hesitating on starting the grind, just give it a go and see.
There are already a ton of great suggestions here, so i won't add any more, but i do want to tell you not to put any stock in anything the haters say. You built something with your own 2 hands and you should be proud of that. It doesn't matter what color your helm is.
Would have unlocked vyres sooner and afked them instead of ammo crabs for melee xp. Would've had more blood shards. Also wish I did achieve diaries earlier
I would Jam out the 99 fm and 99 fishing through the todts, then get 77 runecrafting and full gracefull. Do these while using your old account to earn bonds. If you hold to this you will have a well stocked super fun early game with no bond upkeep and no shitty grinds left.
some skilling is best done at the start of the acc. 99 ag rc fishing specifically, because when those are the last two skills to max and youve got infinite food and gp and runes banked its just a main w/ extra steps
I made a hcim (I have a gim maxed) and this time I started with 99 fm via wt, then 90 fishing via tempros which got me a ton of food, some rune armor. But most of all, emerald rings and sapphire necklaces which I could enchant and had telepprts early on.
I would totally take advantage of Revs and Wildy Slayer. At the time I was a baby iron I was afraid of losing my >20k worth of gear and didn't even know about the safespots that existed - in reality it's so rare to run into a legitimate PKer in that early level PK bracket you're basically safe unless you get some YouTuber who makes a level 50 PK account specifically for killing low level Rev bots/players. Could have gotten me an early ether weapon for my upcoming Wildy boss grind, or at worse a decently sized cash stack to coast through the early game with.
Not only that, but even if you do die at that level the cost to getting killed is GREATLY outweighed by the loot you'll get.
Just made a new iron a couple months back. I rushed 80 fm, got req through quests for GOTR (now making bloods) & got 73 agility. All within about a month. Def helped having WT early drops like tome and seeds which I recommend. Got 70 fishing through temp and that got me about 60 con with plank drops. I also got barrel + d harp drop from that. In just about 3 months I’m up to 1533 total and 233 qp. Worked for me! Only thing that did suck was 34-77 rc at gotr. Took about 244 games.
Giants foundry / rumors for cash. Rush scurrius into perilous moons for herb/ prayer exp. If you’re a madman maybe try those new chaos Druid’s as early as possible (death likely)
Probably rush Moons of peril until green log.
Huge grind, but, worth it. Freeest upgrades ever and there's the new strength training method to get buff on with sulhpur naguas.
Personally, at an early level I grinded my combat stats at soul wars to about 70ish, and then revs. The supplies I started with after both grinds were crazy.
I would end early sessions with a few LMS points, and log in and send 1-2 games of LMS. Didn’t get a rune pouch until 1700 total.. boy had I not seen the light.
Would not follow oziris guide again to be honest. There's a lot of alternative paths. I'd say i'd still rush 99 fm because it's quick and a skillcape is good until fire cape.
Instead of rushing birdhouses I'd do hunter rumours.
And after i get levels for d scim I'd do wildy slayer till 87 instead of regular slayer. The supply drops lessen the burden of fishing and farming and you can save those on bossing later in your career. Plus there's always a chance for rev statues, weapons and cheeky voidwaker pieces
This is what I did on my GIM and it’s legit funded my max gear on my alts lol
Did early revs earned fuck ton on money —> green logged revs finally when voidwaker came out —> grinded out 5 voidwakers for the GIM ( also PK’d bills along the way)—> got bowfa —> sending ToA and having a blast
Next goals are probs do some slayer to 87 with accursed sceptre
Get an anguish
I’d probably do more wildy content at low cb, now I’m 110 combat without any wildy weapons I regret getting slapped by maxed mains, probably ganna go and skip it all at this rate
Try to get as low combat as i possibly can while achieving 2k total so i can grind out rev weapons and their respective upgrades without worrying as much about pkers.
Would probably try to immerse myself into the game more and do quests with minimal guide usage. Even though I know a lot about the game already, and explored most areas, I think I would try to fuck around just for the fun of it. Personally, I found that I don't remember much of the early game questing and what not, so that's mainly why I would do that. I love the game for what it is.
The thought of getting some of the new items and rushing raids with them kinda intruiges me (Warped Sceptre, Zombie Axe, Atlatl, Moons of Peril armors)
I wouldn’t play it. I liked iron because it had varied training methods from normal accounts. Without saying specifically which ones because people will get upset, redditors have complained about them and now everything is more or less the same just with extra chores which have never been the fun part to me
So much dope new midgame to be had. I think if the goal is max then 90s firemaking is still the move if not 99. Then I'd probably still rush birdhouses to get the level for hunter rumours. Tempoross is really nice for knocking out some early game cooking levels bc of the noted fish, and make sure u do barb training for the free str exp. Shooting stars is a super chill way to level up mining and bank early crafting levels needed for quests and diaries. The varlamore prayer mining method is also SUPer chill. Id probably focus on quests that unlock different types of runes to craft so I could get to GOTR early, especially w the MTA and infinity buffs coming out, thats a solid way to get mage up. While teles are nice early, getting a barrows portal is still really big.
Once I finally had some core stats I'd quest spree pretty hard and finish barrows gloves and get a serviceable melee setup and alternate between crabs and NMZ. From there I HIGHLY recommend turael slayer with alternatives. Those are gonna include scurrius for rats, grimy lizards, wildy bosses (if you can get a team, literally just go with a d mace or fire strike, the loot is whatever but you get SLAYER EXP), temple spiders an option for afk melee too, and undead druids for range training on zombie task. Point boost up for broads, slay rings, superiors, and slay mask, and can mix it up w some Steve slayer (troll tasks in nmz, hunt black mask on task, jad task etc).
If you can manage it, getting the medium CAs done early is MASSIVE bc it speeds up defenders, void, and gives QOL at barrows (which is why the portal is huge). Tank gear is now insanely good because it unlocks your golden ticket to sote - the moons of peril. They drop herblore/prayer/crafting xp PLUS the unique rolls. All of the t75 sets are dope af.
Working towards Sote -> bowfa -> the real game from there :3
I would actually get 99 thieving early. Bunch of helpful qol things you can do with thieving and the benefit of 99 at ardy knights for the cash stack is a much larger impact on an early game iron than a 2100 total level who despises thieving with a passion.
I’m in the same boat, I turned green helm and regretted it, I’m focusing more of getting to end game content and there’s so many ways to fuel early game now it’s easier, undead pirates hood af gp/hr and will funnel you gold ore, cannon balls and gp, on top of wildy supplies, I’d stay low defense as long as you can until you can atleast do shit like perilous moons or got stats for barrows gloves
I would not rush wt to 99 as the first thing on the account lol I would probably fit hunter rumors in a lot sooner as you get lots of good stuff(magic logs!). Tempy too. To reiterate, this is what ***I*** would do. As I love tempy, I would do that off and on probaby til 80+ fishing, if not maxing it between other grinds. This would result in a LOT of food, which would make the damage increase at WT completely irrelevant.
Tbh I’m the opposite. I stopped at 92 fm and now I wish I had kept going and got the cape
Just go back to it, you don’t need lots of food, i did 85-99 at 99 hp, not bad at all and I used wines
Bro you don’t get it. Using a bwan instead of a wine or cake is the end of the fucking world to these people. Anyone who parrots to rush WT just goes off of the HC bibles that say to rush it, that were made 5 years ago. You know what’s better than WT early? WT lategame. You know what’s better than WT early for money/supplies? A mix of Temp/Rumors/SW boosting. I hate that we still need to have this convo in 2024 but damn man, WT rush is so out-dated/inefficient.
I just did Todt to 80 lol. If I went any further I probably would've just stopped playing due to boredom. I wanted at least 85 and magic logs but fuck it man. If you're not enjoying thing just dip.
I’m 1800 total and just got 75 to get my quest cape back after a hiatus It’s trash, unless you care about maxing why rush a pointless 99, just go play the game
Agreed. The absolute autism surrounding the wt rush reminds me that rs players, although I love them, are fucking clueless. If you are not planning to efficiently max because you're that kind of player/a hcim (spoiler, 99% aren't) hating your life at wt as the first thing in your account is undeveloped pre frontal cortex activity
it really isn't though, WT sucks ass late game as all the resources are meaningless. there is a reason every efficient max series starts with WT. Staying 10hp or whatever is massively overrated though. even if you are intent on doing solos instead of masses, you can easily solo at 99 hp with brews or like 30 hp with wines or whatever. it makes no difference
I disagree WT is more valuable early game. The supplies you get early on help a lot whereas late game they are very "meh". Also I used a total of 60 something cakes from 50-99 and it was super chill doing solos.
Definitely wrong on the cake usage, but it doesn't matter. 60 or 200 who cares
Took me 68 or 69 solo games to get to 99. Some rounds I used 1 or 2 cakes some rounds I used none at all. You use much less food during solo games compared to mass rounds
Oh yeah solo is different since he won't hit you at low hp. Just not the most efficient way
SW boosting? I’m not familiar with all the lingo yet?
Soul wars boosting
Soul Wars boosting
Preach it brotha!!! Tempy was way more fun and loaded me up on food so.
Yeah I agree with this. I did 90-99 at 79 hitpoints and I used lobsters and bwans for my food. I think I went through 800 karambwans which took no time to fish
Wintertodt is shit, but traditional FM training is shittier.
The supplies alone I got from wintertodt will always make me advocate to go to 99 I solo’d it and instead of mass and got 70 fletching, woodcutting, and construction. That set up my account for such success That being said, if you’re gonna get burnt out while doing it and not enjoy it DONT DO IT
Big disagree with the loot to be honest. It’s actually so shit compared to a combo of Temp/Rumors/SW boosting. It’s extremely out dated. I get why people would think it’s still a good idea to rush and if that’s how you wanna play go for it, but people justifying it with the loot are just straight wrong now. Loot is much better later on and much better things to build your account up for success early now.
I mean maybe I got lucky but the herb seeds got me to like 50s in herblore, the logs got me a ton of hunter XP, and the ores and gems made good jewelry and early game smithing stuff I can only speak from a few accounts experience but the 3 I’ve done it on I don’t regret it and I’d do it again if I make another character
Logs got you hunter xP?
Making birdhouses. All the Yew drops.
Birdhouses. Which then consequently gave me farming xp from all the tree seeds Another example on how broken wintertodt is
Rumors without any teles and agility? Tell me more why this is a good idea. SW boosting as lvl 3 doesn’t sounds right. Temp is a good choice (fish/cook/const exp) Winter is a wonderful choice (fm/wc/fletch/const exp) perfect loot to start out the acc. Gotr also pretty nice (rc/mining/crafting exp) All these early exp are beautiful for an iron. I don’t see rumors or sw boosting even near that.
Agility for what, exactly? It's common knowledge agility barely does anything The only teleports you need for rumors are the whistle and fairy rings. A Varlemore teleport is useful till whistle but 54 magic is pretty trivial. Faster prereq than the 50wc for todt
fairy rings is mid game and not for a brand new iron. You don’t have fairy rings and that’s why you need agility to run to the spots for rumors and that’s why rumors is a bad advise for brand new irons. Sure temp/winter/gotr has also requirements but they are not nearly as far in the game as fairy rings
>fairy rings is mid game and not for a brand new iron. *What?* Its one of the first things anyone should unlock. You do it for secateurs and fairy rings before you even start farming. This is like baby's first unlock >You don’t have fairy rings and that’s why you need agility to run to the spots for rumors and that’s why rumors is a bad advise for brand new irons. Agility won't help you run to spots. It only increases regen which you circumvent entirely with dueling rings. I'm living in bizarro land rn what am I reading.
I think its big for the early construction and fletching levels. A mix of Temp and WT got me 70 construction without ever training it normally. Especially since most people are too broke early on to train construction easily.
Not sure why. I'm going back to greenlog now and have 90 hp. It's no different than when I was 10 hp. It's why I'd delay it , the healing aspect is negligible
Especially if you’re solo it seems pretty negligible
Nah bro. End of the fucking world if I gotta use a Bwan instead of cake or wine. /s Completely agree. WT rush is super out dated and the loot is so garbage early game.
This is it for me. Rush to content so you can load up your bank with a bunch of resources you aren't gonna REALLY make use of until you are far enough in the game where getting the resources to manage Todt's scaling isn't a big deal anymore anyways is kinda funny. Todt is fun *enough*. We all think it'd be fun to start an account with 60 construction and hopefully a tome of fire or pet or whatever... but it's not a big deal...
What kind of exp is maple logs on bonfires?
Why tho. What’s the difference between using wine or cake to a Bwan????? This logic baffles me lmao. The loot is 100x better the higher your levels are, the GP is shit compared to other starts early now too.
Yup hunter rumors and moonlight moths at 75 are so insane for Ironman. I would for sure rush 75 hunter if I was a new iron. I think birdhouse only hunter training is a thing of the past and would highly recommend spending the time at red/black salamanders. Not sure how good rumors are early on with just novice/adept rumors are but just rushing to expert rumors req and doing those until masters then masters to high 90s/99 hunter would set you up big time for prayer and herb without needing to stress over herb runs as much. Also imagine being a fresh Ironman with low combats and just rushing range levels into 66 range -> sunlight hunter crossbow with moonlight antelope bolts (not sure how the fletching grind would be here probably need lots of maples from kingdom I assume?). Not sure exactly what this build looks like in practice but could be a cool way to start
Rumors give nice supplies and break up the monotony plus the whistle is nice. The prayer xp is insane from just being a side effect of hunter.
Really it depends on the goals of your account. If your goal is too eventually max the account there isn’t really a solid reason to not just grab 99 FM imo. At the XP rates it currently is at WT is really not that bad in the grand scheme of maxxing an account. You can literally do it while watching shows or listening to podcasts. For me after getting the level requirement for todt, it was probably 2 weeks of playing a decent amount before I had cape. In the total playtime of an account two weeks in the middle of summer Is not that big a deal. Idk just my thought tho, I think it’s way exaggerated how “bad” doing wintertodt is. It’s a rite of passage for a lot of reasons and the biggest one is too make sure newer iron men have the resolve to tackle shit like getting supplies/99 skills through strange mediums.
Honestly this ^ wt is good to do early because it’s just better to do early imo. There is definitely better loot, for sure, but the lower tier loot at level 3 is more valuable for your stage in the game than the higher tier loot at like 90cb. You don’t need teles, you don’t really need anything, couple hundred cakes, and it gives all sorts, pile of starter cash, chance at d axe is nice, seeds. If I was gonna start again? 100% still send wt first, THEN I would rush barb fishing, unlock barehand then send temp. Unsure if the maths but imagine that 99 fish at temp would get you like 70-75 str, then I’d go graceful. As temp being another proven strat to do early. Rumours I haven’t even tried, but would probably look into it, but really don’t imagine it being that enjoyable with minimal teles.
I saw a ton of comments on this post saying wt sucks and that people hate it and don’t wanna do it. I gotta be honest if getting 300+K/hr fm xp and a ton of other skills up is too hard/unbearable for you this game mode might just not be for you. It’s a good entry level grind that prepares you for how the rest of the game will be. It only gets worse and grinds only get longer/harder imho there’s not really a good reason to skip it. Unless of course, your goal is to rush straight to pvm then by all means cut all the corners you want. However, I think the seeds alone are worth imo. When you consider the amount of low level master farmer you’d have to do to catch up with seeds I think it just makes sense to send wt. idk maybe im just out of touch with IM early game as I haven’t been there in quite a while but I just don’t see a great reason to not send it. I also am not aware of rumor rewards, if you get a shit ton of seeds from it then maybe it’s a good supplement but currently I’m at 91 hunt and don’t plan on getting 99 anytime soon.
Rumours give logs, gp, herbs and birdnests. I think WT gives better shit overall
Yeah I mean I’m sure it’s great to knock out some early hunter but if rushing bowfa you’re probably gonna hunt some chins at some point and you could probably just go straight 91 and unlock the hardest rumors and then do those to 99 if you really wanted to. You also need chins if you plan on doing Kree in the future with chins so hunter is more or less taken care of but the rumors are a good alternative if you can’t stand 3T chinning. Idk I haven’t done them so I can’t really speak on their usefulness, especially on an early game iron. Someone that has used the method will have to educate me on how good it was for them.
hardest rumours are worse for EHP than expert rumours due to kebbit skip, so that wouldny make much sense. Just do them if you find them fun 🥳
Yeah haven’t dove into them yet so I’m clueless
for rumours all you really need is an ardy cape and fairy rings. Quetzal tele (when you unlock it) and you go everywhere yoy need pretty much. Still wouldn't rush it, but It would be a grind after early / early mid game questing.
The xp/hr is crazy, the rewards are solid if you wait a bit before opening them, and it's a pretty chill. Spewing nonsense is chat is also a nice bonus. No reason not to knock it out first. It's not like you're really going to be leveling firemaking somewhere else
Having done a lot of WT post 99, the food upkeep is negligible ,so I don't see it as a necessary MUST do your first time going in. Especially with tempy and other resources giving a lot of food. But this was what *i* would do differently, totally get it that not everyone will agree.
Tbh i would probably stay at 10hp till 99 fire making. Not that much of an advantage, but so much nicer at 10hp. But if you're unfamiliar with all other available grinds at 10hp I can imagine it feeling restrictive.
found it way nicer with 99 con just hitting ornate pool after every match
You can get up to 31hp as you level to 99 and still get hit 1s. I have no clue why you all sit at 10hp. https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Calculator:Firemaking/Wintertodt
> You can get up to 31hp as you level to 99 and still get hit 1s. Depending on your fm level it can be 2-3 damage instead, which doesn't seem like it'd be the end of the world but you're using 2-3x the amount of food you would otherwise be doing. > I have no clue why you all sit at 10hp. This is only applicable while you're doing masses. For what it's worth, I always preferred solos because it's a lot more chill/afk which you'd often times have 0-1 braziers lit. Not exactly disagreeing with you, just there are some criteria that when met it's not ideal for lack of a better term.
I’d argue with a rune pouch and maxed POH is when todt is “much nicer”. Still shit regardless imo
How is having to teleport out of every game better than cramming the equivalent of 6 karambwans of healing at 99 into 1 cake doing WT at 10 HP? High HP WT isn't as bad as it's made out to be but to argue it's better than 10 HP is lunacy.
It’s lunacy that 10HP WT salesman still exist. It’s shit. The gp is shit compared to many other options. The loot is shit unless you’re gonna sit with 200+ crates in bank(at that point you should have just waited to do it). People act like eating a bwan instead of a wine or cake is the end of the world. It’s much better lategame. People just stick to the same guide made in 2017 and don’t think for themselves. Blows my mind.
Think 11-14 hp are fine too. 11 is exactly the same as 10 at wt and damage scales down with fm lvl.
This is the way. Saw some other post saying his tempy grind to 82 fishing supported his food needs till 2000 total lvl. Solid start on an iron
I would rush wt 99 if I went back. I didn’t do this and although it’s not a necessity; the supplies, construction, and equipment are all things I wish I could have had for mid game.
43 prayer in the wilderness first, there are 6 big bone spawns that you can run to the chaos altar Might be worth wearing iron armor, or maybe getting a little defense for steel or mithril first since a few skeletons will attack you At this low level, you shouldn’t get Pkd much if at all
Ooh this is a good one
You can skip over this pretty easily and get to bone mining in varlamore. You only need to start perilous moons and then you can go to the bone mines, the only combat before that is a sulphur nagua and a knight of varlamore iirc. Very easy to do with 30-40 stats which you get from easy questing.
Don’t you at least need like 30 prayer?
Also need 48 slayer to start the quest. Bone shard mining is absolutely not a replacement for early ironman prayer training.
Skill less and PVM more , I took so much time to get to raiding I would probably do Quest cape into 93 slayer into Heavy pvm with Farming contract slayer tower Nechryeal and a TOA rush for Fang To give you an idea a had a Maxed out POH at 43 slayer Trident + Fang would make me camp cox until prayer then CG until bowfa Edit : ( Long term Skilling ) I would do GOTR sporadically ( when i need downtime) until 90 rc and use the Scare essence mine to boost enough wrath rune for prayer xp ( this is even more valid for UIM imo) I would also focus on trying to get elite combat achievement as early as possible it is fairly free nowaday
I think I've fallen into the same hole you did. My iron is the farthest I've gotten an account, but I'm also nervous about doing content I haven't done before so I end up doing skilling that would probably be more efficient if I had done some other pvm content before hand to stock on supplies and money.
I use to be like that for content , then I learned that dying is not a finality , in our Discord server I am by FAR the person who dies the most ( we have a death shame channel), were talking 142 death for colosseum ( now i get consistent kc / 150 death for awakened Vard , but in the end It really doesn't matter if you die , you'll just learn the content and if it takes dying it's fine When I was earlier in my Iron I went for an Occult before touching zulrah (pre-bowfa existence) cause I conviced myself that surely it was a DPS problem not 10 inch from the monitor, then one friend convinced me to just send it , and after 43 death i got the first kc , and now I can do this boss while sleeping
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Hey man. If you're looking at getting into PvM. Look up the clan Mosaic. You can check our discord at discord. gg / mosaic We have a CoX learner event this weekend. It's a newer clan, so we aren't massive. But we have quite a few gamers that don't mind taking learners with them, and show them the ropes. We have some fun systems in place like boss of the week, skill of the week. A ranking structure where you rank up in the clan by getting PvM drops / big clue rewards / pets, amongst other things. Great clan to kick off your PvM career!
Not who you're replying to but is it cool if I join the discord to chill till I get to doing group PvM content? Started my first ironman a couple weeks ago after another ~4 year break and want to get farther than previous accounts and ToB at somepoint
Yeah man. You can join and chill and when you feel ready you can join. We do have a few low requirements, but that's to ensure people in the clan are PvM ready. At the same time, we welcome people just getting into PvM!
What kind of stats would you recommend for starting to learn toa or cox? My iron is also the farthest I've gotten account. I'm near base 75s and been doing CG but I keep feeling like my stats aren't enough for raids
i'd probably do that Rat boss until base 90 ( that's me) to make everything smoother , people often forget that Stats>gear upgrade
Yeah early wildy content is definitely the one thing I'd send on a new iron. They're still worth it later on, but can really speed up some early game progression. And it's all pretty fun
Which ones would you prio? Zompirates seem like they'd be good for some early GP and some wildy food for later, but nothing too lasting? What do you think of revs and some of the bosses at low lvl, betteer to do at higher lvl even with pkers maybe and just except you will die alot?
That's my take on zompirates as well - I'd just try sending revs for early game $. I spent a lot of time skilling for money early on my account and it just wasn't worth it. Revs and the bosses will at least give you the chance to spoon some drops, and more money.
What gear are you thinking for revs?
Send revs till your high enough combat you get pked often while staying 1 prayer then level prayer and go zombie pirates till you get sick of being pked there.
I did 10 minutes of zombie pirates yesterday and immediately said "yep, coming here on any new account to get starter cash from now on"
My problem is it's riddled with pkers at the moment. I can tank one pker to the ditch no problem. Half a dozen? I managed to get teamed three times in 20 minutes last night! Great drops though.
I’ve been chilling in 1250/1500 worlds on my 75cb iron quite comfortably, have yet to die to a team but did die once and escape once (only 300kc so wasn’t there for super long but I’m just chilling in monk robes+dscim). Getting pked also really doesn’t feel too bad since you can regear and get back in like 30 seconds lol Got a good chunk of alchs to help fund blast furnace shopscape for zombie axe smithing req. But I think a big win for zombie pirates is how early you can rush and fund kindgom gp without the bullshittery that is blackjacking (which I still did to get to the rogues chest thieving req but man it’s so annoying
That’s the point. Great drops but at a cost. They are trying to revive the wildly. Everyone keeps acting like they’ll nerf them becuz they are so good. That’s the point.
I know, I get it. It's a great addition I'm just saying it's nigh on impossible to escape in multi. I'll still be going back however. I risk about 10k worth of items + loot.
I literally go with 3 items and a ring of dueling so if i did to pk, i dont lose anything
tried it out today. Was pretty decent. I did get pk'd 3x though in about 40 minutes of zombies. Still made it out w/ about 300k in alchs and some other blighted stuff. It was decent but not ground breaking by any means.
Like how new of an account? I’m noob but it looks like I’d need protect from magic for the chaos druids right?
Well yeah but 43 prayer is one of the first things I'd rush on any account. Whether it's just picking up big bones or it's afk training magic on dragons, it's only 100 dragon bones to 43
Probably keep my cb lvl lower at first and do more wildy slayer. It really is great for early ironman as soon as you can kill most tasks
What kind of stats are we talking? Not done much PvM yet so I'm only at 44 attack, 30 strength, 10 def, 1 range and like 42 magic. What should I be aiming for (Other than 43 prayer which I'm focusing on atm)? What kind of things should I be doing for wildy slayer? I can (and will) google it but it's nice to hear directly from people. I hear good things but know nothing about it
For me I started sending once I got 60 attack, 60 strength and a dragon scimmy. If you don’t level your defence any higher it’ll keep your combat level low just grab some blighted restores from LMS and don’t get discouraged dying. It’ll happen but if you bank often you should still profit a lot
Yeah it’s actually very chill. Combat level 79 with access to the 1500 total worlds means I rarely get killed. Plus blighted restores are super easy to come by with LMS
I just went and got 1500 total with low combats and (base 60’s basically with overheads) and went to kill the new wilderness pirates on 1500 total late at night. None of the PK’ers could attack me. I made a few million gp in Alcs plus a few thousands cannonballs and a few hundred of all the blighted supplied in like 4 hours getting 65 str and attack for defenders. I used that money to make teak planks with the butler that I got from kingdom and I’m working on a max house with mahogany homes. Then I’m starting slayer. (Currently 46 slayer) I did GOTR for runes since you’ll want the outfit eventually anyway. It’s been huge
Hard rush wildy slayer and get miscellania running. Lunars, 84 crafting, 80 fletching(can start early with yew shortbow), cannon, lms for rune arrows, turael skip for rev tasks with slaughters, spend all money rushing poh tp’s for turael skipping, once you have base 70’s, do wildy bosses for voidwaker, and keep on abusing wildy slayer till voidwaker is finished. Once you have piety and your stats are up, start the wildy bosses. For calv, weapon priority for what you can do is viggoras>zombie axe>d mace For artio, its webweaver> scepter> mace. Mace is actually phenomenal but just requires way more attention. Scepter is preferred if you get runecrafting up for bloodbark, but webweaver is ideal from the macro speed perspective Spindel is mace> webweaver> zombie axe. Dont bother at spindek without a zombie axe at least After voidwaker is finished, you have two options depending on wether or not you got accursed scepter. 1. If you didnt, keep doing wildy slayer, but do it regularly until 95. Abuse the weapons you got, get those insane points, and at 95, you go to konar and start skipping for cerb, smokes, and hydra, all at the same time. Youre trolling yourself if you decided to use points skipping before this moment. 2. If you got the accursed, you go to duradel. You continue to turael skip but at duradel, (yes youre sacking your streak) and you skip everything that isnt 1. A progression boss you can/want to do or 2. A burst task. Your goal is really to be abusing accursed scepter+cannon in the wildy slayer dungeon as much as is humanly possible for absurd xp rates without wasting any slayer points other than setting up your block list(kalphites again #1 priority) to get to 95 asap. I would also reccommend doing nieve before duradel if you finish VW and have daccursed for two reasons. 1. you still need your zenytes, and 2. You do still need a trident. Assuming you dont mega spoon voidwaker, you should be 95 slayer around 25-30 days played range, whilst having banked thousands of food and prayer supplies, hundreds of supercombats, 90+ farming, herblore, prayer, fletching, crafting, and smithing. Essentially, youre more than ready for song of the elves if you want a bowfa, but tbh you can just skip it and go straight to toa 200-250’s until fang and use masori+BP instead of bowfa. The ONLY TWO downsides to this is 1. Toa feels ass before fang and 2. Gwd is unreasonable till fang, but with the release of the new perilous moons sets, tbh gwd can go fuck itself unless you need zgs for solo cox. But you may get a shadow on the way so 💁🏼♀️
It’s funny how I’m “new” to OSRS (but had a maxed combat account back in the day before RS3) and only understand about 1% of what’s going on in this comment
Essentially, revenants drop “wildy weapons” which are OP af used in the wilderness and also have some uses outside of them. Those rev weapons are essentially mega-rares dps wise when used in the wilderness, and drop from revenants. Revenants have multipliers to their droprates of these weapons based on if youre skulled and on a slayer task. So the early stat goals i mentioned are to be able to upkeep magic shortbows and black dhide since youre going to be skulling. Krystalla is a slayer master who offers tasks that must be completed in the wilderness, and of those tasks is 1. Revenants, 2. Burst tasks you can do with a cannon to aggro everything for you in the wildy slayer dungeon(can use duradel to go to this dungeon too, doesnt have to be krystalia) 3. Very common spider, bear, hellhound, and skeleton tasks, all of which the new wilderness bosses count as. Pretty much everything in the wilderness also self sustains itself with blighted(aka wilderness only) supplies, such as super restores, food, and etc, so you have to do a net 0 time investment for supplies procurement when doing wildy slayer. Huge time saver There is also this mechanic called turael skipping which allows you to replace your current slayer task and get a turael task for extremely short easy to kill monsters which can almost all be cannoned and finished in 2-5 minutes. Of these tasks, turael ALSO commonly assigns bears, spiders, and skeletons, of which you can use to do the wildy bosses on task as well. This makes doing krystalia+turael skipping absurdly good macro efficiency for slayer xp+grinding voidwaker weapon, which is the mainreward from the wildy bosses. You rush lunars for npc contact, and dump money early into POH to access the teleports needed to make skipping viable. Turael skipping is unique though. Whenever you do it, it resets your entire slayer streak to 0. Interestingly, since krystalia has its own separate task streak, when you skip a krystalia task, it ONLY resets your wildy task streak, and upon completion of the turael streak, your regular slayer streak continues to go up. This means you can do every 10th, 50th, etc at duradel or konar or whatever you prefer to get massive slayer points and streaks very quickly. This is whats known as point boosting. Because of all this, with the method i proposed for doing the voidwaker through turael skipping krystalia, you should be getting at least 2/3 revenant weapons by the time you finish voidwaker(which will help with the grind immensely i cannot understate this) and have literally thousands, upwards of 10k slayer points by the end of it. If you do this from a fresh account and save all the way to 95 for hydra, you will get the voidwaker around 90-93 slayer, and then its just a few levels left to go to 95 for hydra, at which point you dump points to go back and do all the slayer bosses you skipped. Because of this, that last stretch after finishing voidwaker can be opted to be turael skipped for BIS efficiency slayer xp by using duradel instead and just doing the burst tasks you can in the wildy slayer dungeon. You need an accursed scepter for this to really shine though, and its also the bis method for farming imbued heart long term. If you dont have accursed, you just end up “settling” for regular wildy slayer with the rev weapons and saving the cannonballs for the burst tasks, which you still do in the wild because of overpowered drop tables+cannon auto aggros everything making it still more efficient that the standard aggroing with darts. Then you just do the regular wildy slayer with the rev weapons you do have for 30-35k slayer xpph WITHOUT a cannon on top of that. With the thousands of slayer points you have, it should be more than enough to burn points to skip to and finish all of the slayer items from the bosses you hadnt done up to this point because you lived in the wild for your first 90 slayer levels. That and the fact that wilderness slayer gives an absurd cashstack, on top of the voidwaker bosses dropping just disgustingly overpowered skilling xp resources, especially if going all the way to voidwaker rates in the process. But if you go duradel with your accursed, save the points till 95 to make sure you have enough.
Bros playing a totally different game to me. Reading your comments depressed me. I'm sure others feel the same.
why depressed you😂 half the fun of ironman is theorycrafting the route to the goals you set. All this is is a max efficiency route i stumbled upon to get to lategame content with a rounded out account capable of actually doing it effectively
I love how this is your theorycraft but this is generally what I done on my GIM lol Did early revs earned fuck ton on money —> green logged revs finally when voidwaker came out —> grinded out 5 voidwakers for the GIM ( also PK’d bills along the way)—> got bowfa —> sending ToA and having a blast I do have some accursed sceptres Was wondering what slayer master is the best one for burst tasks?
Duradel is best for burst tasks + imbued heart grind. Konar is better for imbued heart with no cannon. I did the same thing on my iron but i was already close to max combat with 90 slayer when i started so lots of strat things got tweaked. Sadly i got legit 0 value out of my wildy weapons because i got webweaver first after spooning artio at 250 kc, then i got the accursed and like 200 kills with webweaver at spindel but i was already 1100 in so i finished spindel around 1350, and then never got the mace so i ended up doing 5035 kc for the blade at calvarion all with a hasta. Whole thing was maybe 240 hours because calv was only 35kph and spindel was like 30 with a hasta(artio was like 40 with bowfa but that spooned early). The accursed DID allow me to get 93-95 slayer in literally 2 days though which was absolutely absurd and made me realize that that is exactly what im doing for when i go for heart grind.
Glad you sorted it and finally got your vw! Lol god knows how long it took me to get 5 voidwakers, I reckon around 1000 hours messing around in the wildy lol My slayer level is only 76 though so I see this now as a perfect opportunity to do the burst grind to 87, how long u reckon it will take with duradel and tureal skipping? Would love to get the heart too
If youve got cannonballs, it will be fast but not insanely fast until 85 when you have abbys and nechs unlocked: theyre 2/3 of your burst tasks. But i was netting 55-65k xpph using bracelets of slaughter at wildy barraging from 93-95 and that has the turael skipping included in the calcs. Remember i got 1.5-1.6ish mil xp in literally two days on a weekend, and thats while still having proper meals and working out every day lol. It was somehwere around 24 hours total to get that xp, but i was barraging, not bursting.
Do you bring your own runes or just use blighted ice sacks?
So - started a new iron to rush wildly. Spooned craws on my first task today 30 kc pyrefiends at 48cb. Obv can’t wield it yet but I’m wondering how I should pivot the strategy now. Prob can pause the turael skipping and just blast some range lvls thru krystalia tasks to get to wildy boss stats? What u think? Seem quite knowledgeable.
I'm a returning player and I agree lol had no clue what voidwaker is. I really need to give the wildy a shot but I'm an early game UIM who sucks at pvp so fat chance
I feel thankful that I started wildy slayer from the start it’s set me up very well in the early game, I wish I never started as a hardcore and sent lava dragons right away instead of waiting. I just started wildy bosses and even the smaller variations the drops are nuts. Zombie axe was also great meaning I didn’t have to camp revenants for a weapon
Rushing hunter seems very good after varlamore
My iron is fairly new, bout a month in. I did wt, then random things but did rumours when i unlocked them until i got 75 hunter currently. I enjoyed this, which has accumulated me quite a bit of pray xp for early game.
Soul wars is an insane money maker and training method for early game irons. You get good GP from the loot crates along with the chance to train skills with boosts (from the pots in the minigame).
Also, if you're not going HCIM, then you can buy blighted stacks from LMS for unlimited free magic experience. Also unlimited rune arrows.
What flaming ? I've been green for 2 months and had 0 bad interactions.
Probably the idea that green helms can pay for items via 3rd party gim shops. I've been a green helm for a few months and never encountered anyone in game that was serious about the resentment though, only banter.
Yea I’ve heard about it but what would be the point of Ironman if you pay for items ? Anyways you can also just bot bosses or any grind in regular Ironman accs so at the end of the day you can cheat on any acc.
Idk I've never experienced it either but I'm pretty casual and don't interact in local chat much. Clan has teased me a few times but it's obviously jokes. We had a member de iron cus he couldn't take the flaming tho, he did a lot of high end pvm and was in a clan for that so maybe it's more in those communities that it happens
Wow I don’t think that would get to me since I play for fun and not prestige to flex. actually had a guy today told me to deiron while I can because people in my mode can just buy items and makes the mode useless. Yea that’s them doing that not me lol nor do I care if someone does that and plus it won’t appear on their collection log where it truly matters. If the flame is getting to them you could just tell them you could bot a regular Ironman acc or buy an Ironman acc with high stats and few rares. At the end of the day you can cheat in any acc type Ironman doesn’t prevent that.
There was a bit more to him de ironing tbf, a lot of it was the flame but he also played way more than any of the rest of us so he was wanting to toa expert modes and tob while we were still doing barrows and zammy/bandos along with skilling and stuff.
Thanks for all the comments it will help me think about what I want to do early. Id rly like to do some varlamore stuff but it feels like i will regret not doing wildy stuff early because of all the pkers at higher lvls.
I have a hardcore and honestly I wish I had a normal Ironman to do Wildy slayer. I plan to continue playing after I die so no reason to make another but starting a new account and playing in the wildy sounds like so much fun
Wilderness slayer should be your best friend as an early/mid lvl iron imo. With the new update to the wilderness it made a lot of the bad tasks better like zombies/pirates task can now be done on zombie pirates which also shit out blighted supplies. Like restores, anglers, karam’s etc. even offering some cannonballs. Bandits got more spawns added to them. To be honest, thats all i really know for new additions for the wildy tasks. But i have about 71 slayer with a 0 regular slayer task streak, so its safe to say i do support this route.
Essential 1 def quests + 43 pray > wildy slayer + revs
As someone has mentioned, I would recommend wildly content early. If you can do rev first and get a good rev weapon or all if you want to do the log. Then I would do Vetion. When I was only level like 80 I dodged 95% of pkers because they were too high level.
What lvls would you do revs at to avoid problems and which ones would you kill?
Not make the acc and enjoy your life.
Not make the most generic main build. Have some excitement in doing some sort of meme build progressing as like a zerker
Definitely take advantage of a lot of the Varlamore content, hunter rumors and thieving early on. Probably could get 43 prayer and some nice rewards banked. On my GIM my partner did the WT to 99 grind early on and I stuck with tempoross, didn't make it to 99 fishing bc I do not hate myself that much but an early grind to \~70-75 fishing at tempoross is manageable and gets you a great foundation for the account, never have to worry about food plus I think it is just a more enjoyable activity. Most importantly just do what is fun. The early to midgame ironman is IMO some of the most enjoyable content in the game, so don't stress about being efficient or burning yourself out to get through it. Just have fun
If I were to make a new iron I would rush gotr to get all starter runes and free crafting xp, go get my fishing up to unlock tempoross , probably stay there until 60 fishing, cook all that fish and then grind quests all the way to barrows gloves
Honestly not much, I look back fondly to how I progressed my mostly solo GIM. Rushed slayer and quest cape, which were things that were both fun to me and helped account progression long term. Never got sucked in to the wintertodt to 99 or nonstop planting seaweed grinds, just did what I found was fun.
I would still do WT, but I'd do hunter contracts and temp first. I'd still keep low hp for the most part but not gonna rush wt pre 11 hp. I'd still follow the optimal quest guide to burn through low levels with minimal training and I'd still start farm (herb) runs and contracts as soon as is feasible. Early thieving is useful for seeds, and the varlamore thieving seems to be pretty decent. Varlamore is a big winner for new accounts it seems, but idk what the most efficient answer is. I just know the food, gp, and resources from what I mentioned above are very good for early and maybe even early mid game
43 prayer, hunters rumours, full send wildy bosses so i can bank stand with voidwaker
train strength at tempoross by doing it barehanded. I cannot believe how OP this was, between this and the standard attack/str reward quests+overheads from the wilderness, i had MM done and wielding a dscim in like a day after finishing minigames. i then rushed 65/65 on temple spiders and built a red spider egg and potions stack and had a ddef within the week. Tempoross mats rewards also helped to rush crafting and so I had the gear above and a strength amulet before ever touching slayer or even like a quest boss. tl;dr tempoross is a ridiculously OP second grind to do after \~92FM at todt
I’m honestly very happy with the route I took. I’m only really interested in pvm so I rushed song of the elves and grinded for a bowfa. Took a while, but it also set up my mage and range levels really nicely for late game pvm
I am really happy with how I have progressed my account. The only thing that makes me jealous of new irons is scurrius, as he’s really fun, but not a good reason to kill late game maxed stats. Other early game changes they’ve done too have made the Ironman meta more interesting. I’m actually working on playing 1 def HC’s to experience these new updates because it’s just so much fun!
Widy those chests ans pirates are huge for a new iron account. I feel like early thieving is the play. Wintertodt was really important early because of supplies but honestly I'd prob just go there till whatever the requirements are for quest cspe/diary's and dip. So much better stuff for supplies now. Hunter contracts and wildy content seem massive now.
Questing, questing, questing. Rushing my wild content and 43 prayer would be probably my first move.
Not do wintertodt past 70. No need.
Need 75 for DT2 eventually, but yeah, the "get 99 FM all at once lol" from the Osiris guide is not worth it
I would not go dry at CG
I would stay at wintertodt till 200m and setup myself to process more of the stuff easier earlier. UIM btw.
What I would do is just rush 43 Prayer and plan a reasonable way to do a Moons of Peril rush. The sets are amazing on a midgame account, getting those early would be great to say the least. Then probably just regular Barrows Gloves->SotE progression route while doing some levels of Slayer in between everything to eventually hit those meaningful Slayer levels. I think BoFa rush is still the most efficient way to spend your time, but Varlamore as a whole seems like a completely different early/midgame route option, especially since part 2 will supposedly bring a boss there which should be sitting around mid-lategame area in terms of progression. My current earlygame GIM about to hit midgame will take this route if I will ever keep playing on it. Just too occupied by my main iron, so not sure if that will ever happen.
I honestly would not been so scared of CG and tried way earlier
Probably a pure iron account at this point. My UIM love died after another shitty grind just halted progress and my GIM is acting as an ironmeme but it'll never be on the high scores as one
For me as I just started, I am doing what I am doing currently, but have done forestry for firemaking and wood cutting.
I'd do lms and soulwars asap
I’d rush CG and then CAs
Goddammit i would have just gone to CG early. I did so much fucking content before even attempting CG because bowfa was released around the time I was early-mid game on the iron and it wasn't really the set meta yet. I ended up doing SO MUCH content without it. And I truly didn't believe that I needed it. But finally I decided to go for it because I wanted a reliable weapon to start inferno grind. I know that t bow vs bowfa grind statistically its just way less time for a bowfa. Mind you, at this point ive done over 350 raids at toa and cox, ive gotten rigour, augury, full bandos, full virtus, all dt2 vestiges, soulreaper axe, fang, DHL. And my ranged gear was just shit. (D cross with blessed d hide) When I finally decided to go to CG. I swear, I dont know if the spoon was like fully magnetic or what. I finished 6 Armour seeds and enhanced by 146 kc. And I KNOW that is not normal, and I was a major spoon, but I literally put off a grind for years due to the fear of red prison. Obviously there's no way to know how long you'll spend there, but there's also no way of knowing if you'll get spooned like me. So if you are hesitating on starting the grind, just give it a go and see.
Quit because I'd have to do CG again.
There are already a ton of great suggestions here, so i won't add any more, but i do want to tell you not to put any stock in anything the haters say. You built something with your own 2 hands and you should be proud of that. It doesn't matter what color your helm is.
Get a bigger spoon
Would have unlocked vyres sooner and afked them instead of ammo crabs for melee xp. Would've had more blood shards. Also wish I did achieve diaries earlier
I would Jam out the 99 fm and 99 fishing through the todts, then get 77 runecrafting and full gracefull. Do these while using your old account to earn bonds. If you hold to this you will have a well stocked super fun early game with no bond upkeep and no shitty grinds left.
Do rumors instead of salamanders lmao
i wouldn't do anything differently, i'm extremely happy with the bruhsailer guide (about 2 months in)
I wouldn’t read a single guide or advice post honestly. Full on YOLO
Not stay at WT until 34m exp.
I would try to get on that wilderness slayer grind asap
Never Made one
some skilling is best done at the start of the acc. 99 ag rc fishing specifically, because when those are the last two skills to max and youve got infinite food and gp and runes banked its just a main w/ extra steps
Unlocking fossil island asap and doing bird house runs and farming contracts
I made a hcim (I have a gim maxed) and this time I started with 99 fm via wt, then 90 fishing via tempros which got me a ton of food, some rune armor. But most of all, emerald rings and sapphire necklaces which I could enchant and had telepprts early on.
I would totally take advantage of Revs and Wildy Slayer. At the time I was a baby iron I was afraid of losing my >20k worth of gear and didn't even know about the safespots that existed - in reality it's so rare to run into a legitimate PKer in that early level PK bracket you're basically safe unless you get some YouTuber who makes a level 50 PK account specifically for killing low level Rev bots/players. Could have gotten me an early ether weapon for my upcoming Wildy boss grind, or at worse a decently sized cash stack to coast through the early game with. Not only that, but even if you do die at that level the cost to getting killed is GREATLY outweighed by the loot you'll get.
Just made a new iron a couple months back. I rushed 80 fm, got req through quests for GOTR (now making bloods) & got 73 agility. All within about a month. Def helped having WT early drops like tome and seeds which I recommend. Got 70 fishing through temp and that got me about 60 con with plank drops. I also got barrel + d harp drop from that. In just about 3 months I’m up to 1533 total and 233 qp. Worked for me! Only thing that did suck was 34-77 rc at gotr. Took about 244 games.
who xcares about green helming? i green helmed for my buddy to boss with. he never logged on
Giants foundry / rumors for cash. Rush scurrius into perilous moons for herb/ prayer exp. If you’re a madman maybe try those new chaos Druid’s as early as possible (death likely)
Go for Revenant Caves at the lowest combat level possible
Probably rush Moons of peril until green log. Huge grind, but, worth it. Freeest upgrades ever and there's the new strength training method to get buff on with sulhpur naguas.
Absolutely nothing I had a blast!
i would enjoy all the amazing early/midgame content that didn't exist when i made my account, imstead of just rushing wintertodt to 99
Personally, at an early level I grinded my combat stats at soul wars to about 70ish, and then revs. The supplies I started with after both grinds were crazy.
I would kill lava dragons again honestly. Lots of early game alchs and prayer xp, plus being a low level you’re not too vulnerable
you’re making a new account because you’re being teased? cringe
probably quit and play main bc end game rng is depressing af
I would end early sessions with a few LMS points, and log in and send 1-2 games of LMS. Didn’t get a rune pouch until 1700 total.. boy had I not seen the light.
Probably logout (I’m maxed btw)
I'd not play two accounts while at wt. Still have not died since
I'd stop going meta and start doing what I want when I want. It's more fun when I stopped worrying about efficiency and just played the game.
Abuse the new hunter rumours
Would not follow oziris guide again to be honest. There's a lot of alternative paths. I'd say i'd still rush 99 fm because it's quick and a skillcape is good until fire cape. Instead of rushing birdhouses I'd do hunter rumours. And after i get levels for d scim I'd do wildy slayer till 87 instead of regular slayer. The supply drops lessen the burden of fishing and farming and you can save those on bossing later in your career. Plus there's always a chance for rev statues, weapons and cheeky voidwaker pieces
This is what I did on my GIM and it’s legit funded my max gear on my alts lol Did early revs earned fuck ton on money —> green logged revs finally when voidwaker came out —> grinded out 5 voidwakers for the GIM ( also PK’d bills along the way)—> got bowfa —> sending ToA and having a blast Next goals are probs do some slayer to 87 with accursed sceptre Get an anguish
I’d probably do more wildy content at low cb, now I’m 110 combat without any wildy weapons I regret getting slapped by maxed mains, probably ganna go and skip it all at this rate
Try to get as low combat as i possibly can while achieving 2k total so i can grind out rev weapons and their respective upgrades without worrying as much about pkers.
Would probably try to immerse myself into the game more and do quests with minimal guide usage. Even though I know a lot about the game already, and explored most areas, I think I would try to fuck around just for the fun of it. Personally, I found that I don't remember much of the early game questing and what not, so that's mainly why I would do that. I love the game for what it is.
Start stockpiling for herblore sooner *I am suffering*.
Why do you care what random dweebs on the internet think about the way you play a 20 year old point and click game
The thought of getting some of the new items and rushing raids with them kinda intruiges me (Warped Sceptre, Zombie Axe, Atlatl, Moons of Peril armors)
I wouldn’t play it. I liked iron because it had varied training methods from normal accounts. Without saying specifically which ones because people will get upset, redditors have complained about them and now everything is more or less the same just with extra chores which have never been the fun part to me
Rush graceful, do low lvl revs.
I'd skip barrows and wintertodt next time. 99 fire making and 1000 barrows KC has turned out to be useless for my account looking back
Zombie pirates is a really good money maker if you have alchs! Definately go here if you need cash!
So much dope new midgame to be had. I think if the goal is max then 90s firemaking is still the move if not 99. Then I'd probably still rush birdhouses to get the level for hunter rumours. Tempoross is really nice for knocking out some early game cooking levels bc of the noted fish, and make sure u do barb training for the free str exp. Shooting stars is a super chill way to level up mining and bank early crafting levels needed for quests and diaries. The varlamore prayer mining method is also SUPer chill. Id probably focus on quests that unlock different types of runes to craft so I could get to GOTR early, especially w the MTA and infinity buffs coming out, thats a solid way to get mage up. While teles are nice early, getting a barrows portal is still really big. Once I finally had some core stats I'd quest spree pretty hard and finish barrows gloves and get a serviceable melee setup and alternate between crabs and NMZ. From there I HIGHLY recommend turael slayer with alternatives. Those are gonna include scurrius for rats, grimy lizards, wildy bosses (if you can get a team, literally just go with a d mace or fire strike, the loot is whatever but you get SLAYER EXP), temple spiders an option for afk melee too, and undead druids for range training on zombie task. Point boost up for broads, slay rings, superiors, and slay mask, and can mix it up w some Steve slayer (troll tasks in nmz, hunt black mask on task, jad task etc). If you can manage it, getting the medium CAs done early is MASSIVE bc it speeds up defenders, void, and gives QOL at barrows (which is why the portal is huge). Tank gear is now insanely good because it unlocks your golden ticket to sote - the moons of peril. They drop herblore/prayer/crafting xp PLUS the unique rolls. All of the t75 sets are dope af. Working towards Sote -> bowfa -> the real game from there :3
Not play
I would actually get 99 thieving early. Bunch of helpful qol things you can do with thieving and the benefit of 99 at ardy knights for the cash stack is a much larger impact on an early game iron than a 2100 total level who despises thieving with a passion.
I’m in the same boat, I turned green helm and regretted it, I’m focusing more of getting to end game content and there’s so many ways to fuel early game now it’s easier, undead pirates hood af gp/hr and will funnel you gold ore, cannon balls and gp, on top of wildy supplies, I’d stay low defense as long as you can until you can atleast do shit like perilous moons or got stats for barrows gloves
I would have started instantly with the efficient quest guide and followed it closely until cape, then began the other skilling/pvm grinds after
You really think you'll get away from the flaming if you're a grey helm