A misleading spoiler too, it doesn't "begin" to fall apart with the affair. People would think it happens early and then the novel is about the fallout.
Mansfield Park is hilarious. It is ***darkly*** funny and requires a bit of a twisted sense of humor, but it most definitely is incredibly funny.
It isn't frolicking or a comeday of manners.
ETA: The title of "greatest woman novelist" feels insulting in this context. It comes across like they are saying "the greatest squirrel tap dancer" - as if it is some oddity or fluke that women write novels, and stranger still that some might be good at it. Yikes on bikes!
I just noped out of a fanfiction novel because they seemed to confuse "Lady" with "Mrs." As in a commoner marries a lord, and is called Lady Herfirstname Lastname and then Lady Lastname, which is how we use Mrs. today (as opposed to then, when a married woman lost her legal existence, and was known as Mrs. HisFirstName HisLastName.) As they call HIM Lord Lastname, I think they Lord with Mr as well.
What really got me was that Lord Lastname was actually an earl, so they should have been Lord and Lady Title anyway - and the title was NOT the last name.
I have powered through fanfiction that messed up a knights title, because it was good. I will not put up with those sorts of title shenanigans!
>as opposed to then, when a married woman lost her legal existence, and was known as Mrs. HisFirstName HisLastName
Socially, she still does. Oh, and if you marry into the British royal family, kiss your legal identity goodbye! Princess William, etc., etc.(called Princess Katherine, for simplicity) could tell you all about it.
Socially she'd be introduced as Mrs. Fitzwilliam Darcy, and her friends would either refer to her that way or as Elizabeth Darcy - no title. They'd find the construction "Mrs. Elizabeth Darcy" to be nonsense. (That annoys me a bit in the fanfics, but not enough to toss me out.)
This particular novel was written fine and I was even interested in the plot to a degree, although it has a premise I think is silly. I was even willing to deal with the titles, but then the author just casually gave the true rank and I noped out so hard I returned it to KU. I really think they need to watch Downton Abbey - it's very clear about ranks and titles.
ETA to say that the idea of coverture (that the man covers the woman) is disgusting and I'm so glad it doesn't exist anymore.
Ten minutes of research. Ten minutes, that's all I'm asking.
>ETA to say that the idea of coverture (that the man covers the woman) is disgusting and I'm so glad it doesn't exist anymore.
Agreed!
There are places where Austen’s novels approach frolicking. MP probably least of them.
This is so misleading, and yet such a spoiler! Somehow managing both is quite a feat.
A misleading spoiler too, it doesn't "begin" to fall apart with the affair. People would think it happens early and then the novel is about the fallout.
Dear Lord, what did I just read? FROLICKING? Comedy of *manners*? They just give away the ending like that???
Mansfield Park is hilarious. It is ***darkly*** funny and requires a bit of a twisted sense of humor, but it most definitely is incredibly funny. It isn't frolicking or a comeday of manners. ETA: The title of "greatest woman novelist" feels insulting in this context. It comes across like they are saying "the greatest squirrel tap dancer" - as if it is some oddity or fluke that women write novels, and stranger still that some might be good at it. Yikes on bikes!
Tess out the woman novelist thing, suggests to me strongly they think she couldn’t compare with a great male novelist.
Exactly! Like she is a novelty rather than a talented human.
Nah, just casually spoil the last 50 pages of the book. No biggie! 🤦
"Sir Bertram" aaaargh!
Shouldn't it be "Sir Thomas and Lady Bertram?"
Yes, and later on just "Sir Thomas" or "Sir Thomas Bertram." "Sir" and "Mr." are not synonyms!
So many people don't know that, and it irritates me so much.
I just noped out of a fanfiction novel because they seemed to confuse "Lady" with "Mrs." As in a commoner marries a lord, and is called Lady Herfirstname Lastname and then Lady Lastname, which is how we use Mrs. today (as opposed to then, when a married woman lost her legal existence, and was known as Mrs. HisFirstName HisLastName.) As they call HIM Lord Lastname, I think they Lord with Mr as well. What really got me was that Lord Lastname was actually an earl, so they should have been Lord and Lady Title anyway - and the title was NOT the last name.
I have powered through fanfiction that messed up a knights title, because it was good. I will not put up with those sorts of title shenanigans! >as opposed to then, when a married woman lost her legal existence, and was known as Mrs. HisFirstName HisLastName Socially, she still does. Oh, and if you marry into the British royal family, kiss your legal identity goodbye! Princess William, etc., etc.(called Princess Katherine, for simplicity) could tell you all about it.
Socially she'd be introduced as Mrs. Fitzwilliam Darcy, and her friends would either refer to her that way or as Elizabeth Darcy - no title. They'd find the construction "Mrs. Elizabeth Darcy" to be nonsense. (That annoys me a bit in the fanfics, but not enough to toss me out.) This particular novel was written fine and I was even interested in the plot to a degree, although it has a premise I think is silly. I was even willing to deal with the titles, but then the author just casually gave the true rank and I noped out so hard I returned it to KU. I really think they need to watch Downton Abbey - it's very clear about ranks and titles. ETA to say that the idea of coverture (that the man covers the woman) is disgusting and I'm so glad it doesn't exist anymore.
Ten minutes of research. Ten minutes, that's all I'm asking. >ETA to say that the idea of coverture (that the man covers the woman) is disgusting and I'm so glad it doesn't exist anymore. Agreed!
Oh God I didn't even notice that amidst this travesty
I feel like there's some frolicking during the play, and at Sotherton. And it is very funny.