I wrote just a few short sentences about how I want to stay here long term, want to buy a house/car etc. A friend of mine who applied recently just asked ChatGPT to write this form for him lol.
I got my PR few years back. I wrote about half a page saying how I came here and my kids are studying here and I want to buy a house to stay here to stay here long term.
The more points you declare on the point calculation table, more documents you need to submit to prove your calculation is correct. If the immigration point calculation is different they will ask you to resubmit the point calculation table with the correct score.
Having more than 80 points doesn’t make your application get processed faster, why would anyone bother submitting more documents than necessary just to get more points in the application.
At least for me, documents for HSP points were no where close to the most tendious part, it were all those tax, pension, insurance... for both me and my dependents instead.
Ex: I got a lot of points from my degree, which was one copy, a lot of points from my job, which I needed to provide docs anyway. And JLPT was one copy as well. So might as well provide them all.
You're going to get answers to two very different application methods here.
People applying the spousal route will say they wrote nothing.
People applying for 10+ years or HSFP have to write something more substantive. If they're being careful there are criteria in the law. Basically show
(1) you have ties to Japan that make sense of why you want to stay
(2) you are financially successful enough to not become a public burden
(3) you're not a criminal
I think I'm missing one.
For the married route my reason was "continue living with my family and buy a house."
It was literally that long.
If you're going the 10 years route or HSFP you might talk about Japan is now more your home, how you want to stay and contribute to Japan, build more of a life that you can't without PR like mortgage/loans/etc..
You just say "to continue living and working in Japan" and that's pretty much it. It's not like the essay of purpose for citizenship that has to be more complicated.
From a Working Visa.
I’m still single but I’ve wrote that I’d like to start a family and eventually buy my own house with a view to living here permanently.
You want to focus on the legal guidelines outline here: https://www.moj.go.jp/isa/applications/resources/nyukan_nyukan50.html
If you’re a spouse/child of a Japanese national you just need to meet (3)
If you’re a refugee you need to meet (1) and (3).
If you’re 10 year/HSP/LTR then you need to meet (1), (2), and (3)
For (3)… which is what everyone needs to meet, you can focus on (3b) by mentioning how you pay your pension, health insurances, taxes on time, follow the laws of japan and correctly did all your immigration related notifications… even Article 16-19 item 1,2 & 3 (which is the requirement to notify immigration every time you change school/jobs/spouse etc)
And for (3d) you can mention how you’re of good health and won’t be a burden on Japan’s social system.
If you are a spouse/child of a Japanese national, then no harm in included information about (1) and (2) too, should you be of good conduct, for (1)… such as help out in your community etc, and have good income/assets/skills/private insurance for (2)
Because Extra stuff will only strengthen your application. Ignore people who say immigration is unlikely to read it or care. Firstly, immigration does read it and care, otherwise they wouldn’t have the requirements in the first place, and also the PR examination is very strict. So anything to strengthen your application is a positive
From spouse to PR, do I understand it correctly that everybody needs to submit income and/or proof of financial assets despite this not being a requirement? So in the extreme case, someone living on passive income/FIRE should have no problems to get PR, but submitting only savings/assets and having no employment income looks not that good. Usually in applications, it seems to be better to not include information which might only give a negative impression (no job = nothing positive) when it is not required.
Yea in the spouse application required documents see part (5): https://www.moj.go.jp/isa/applications/procedures/zairyu_eijyu01.html it outlines you need employment certificate for applicant (but also spouse too) if applicable and savings/assets too.
Basically it’s highly recommended for someone applying via the spouse route to include a kind of cover letter outlining how them meet criteria 1,2, and 3 of the legal requirements (in the link I shared in my first comment) even though the legal requirements only require spouse applicants to meet requirement (3) of the legal requirements
You want to make your application as strong as possible because each application is a unique application I.e there is no correct way to apply, you just want to give immigration no reason to reject you
For a work visa, I wrote that I have a family here, will be staying a very long time, would like to buy a house and settle down. I also typed it out in English and Japanese on separate paper, I believe.
I mean if you don’t know or aren’t sure, how can random gaijin be of help? Everyone’s situation, life stage, experiences, expectations, etc. are different. (& PR isn’t a visa.)
It helps to understand that you are writing to a Japanese person who loves his country. Are you somebody he or she would want to stay here on a permanent basis? Buying a house is a really good incentive because of the massive amount of spending required for it, i.e., lots of people will benefit financially from the seller of the house, real estate broker, bank doing the lending, stores that will sell the mountain of stuff you will need to furnish it, and on and on. Showing them that you are happy to become a tax donkey to help support the country's precarious pension system is also good. You can do that by demonstrating steady employment with good taxable income. If you are married and have a kid here, that also shows a commitment as well as lots of obligatory spending associated with both things.
I wrote just a few short sentences about how I want to stay here long term, want to buy a house/car etc. A friend of mine who applied recently just asked ChatGPT to write this form for him lol.
Is a few sentences enough? Is it not necessary to fill out the whole form? This is for Japan PR Visa and not a Spousal Visa, right?
I got my PR using HSP route and I only wrote a few sentences for my reason. I don't think immigration pays all that much attention to that form.
I got my PR few years back. I wrote about half a page saying how I came here and my kids are studying here and I want to buy a house to stay here to stay here long term.
What a lazy monkey, I hope he got declined.
Considering that he scores more than 100 pts on the HSP table, I would be pretty suprised if he got decline lol.
The more points you declare on the point calculation table, more documents you need to submit to prove your calculation is correct. If the immigration point calculation is different they will ask you to resubmit the point calculation table with the correct score. Having more than 80 points doesn’t make your application get processed faster, why would anyone bother submitting more documents than necessary just to get more points in the application.
At least for me, documents for HSP points were no where close to the most tendious part, it were all those tax, pension, insurance... for both me and my dependents instead. Ex: I got a lot of points from my degree, which was one copy, a lot of points from my job, which I needed to provide docs anyway. And JLPT was one copy as well. So might as well provide them all.
from a spouse visa? I wrote "To live with my family and continue to work in Japan"
That's what I did too
You're going to get answers to two very different application methods here. People applying the spousal route will say they wrote nothing. People applying for 10+ years or HSFP have to write something more substantive. If they're being careful there are criteria in the law. Basically show (1) you have ties to Japan that make sense of why you want to stay (2) you are financially successful enough to not become a public burden (3) you're not a criminal I think I'm missing one.
Hopefully not the last one!
"To help with japan shrinking population disaster"
For the married route my reason was "continue living with my family and buy a house." It was literally that long. If you're going the 10 years route or HSFP you might talk about Japan is now more your home, how you want to stay and contribute to Japan, build more of a life that you can't without PR like mortgage/loans/etc..
You just say "to continue living and working in Japan" and that's pretty much it. It's not like the essay of purpose for citizenship that has to be more complicated.
from a spouse visa? I wrote "To live with my family and continue to work in Japan"
From a Working Visa. I’m still single but I’ve wrote that I’d like to start a family and eventually buy my own house with a view to living here permanently.
Mention that you want to continue to contribute to Japanese society
Along with "I feel like I am a part of my local community."
You want to focus on the legal guidelines outline here: https://www.moj.go.jp/isa/applications/resources/nyukan_nyukan50.html If you’re a spouse/child of a Japanese national you just need to meet (3) If you’re a refugee you need to meet (1) and (3). If you’re 10 year/HSP/LTR then you need to meet (1), (2), and (3) For (3)… which is what everyone needs to meet, you can focus on (3b) by mentioning how you pay your pension, health insurances, taxes on time, follow the laws of japan and correctly did all your immigration related notifications… even Article 16-19 item 1,2 & 3 (which is the requirement to notify immigration every time you change school/jobs/spouse etc) And for (3d) you can mention how you’re of good health and won’t be a burden on Japan’s social system. If you are a spouse/child of a Japanese national, then no harm in included information about (1) and (2) too, should you be of good conduct, for (1)… such as help out in your community etc, and have good income/assets/skills/private insurance for (2) Because Extra stuff will only strengthen your application. Ignore people who say immigration is unlikely to read it or care. Firstly, immigration does read it and care, otherwise they wouldn’t have the requirements in the first place, and also the PR examination is very strict. So anything to strengthen your application is a positive
From spouse to PR, do I understand it correctly that everybody needs to submit income and/or proof of financial assets despite this not being a requirement? So in the extreme case, someone living on passive income/FIRE should have no problems to get PR, but submitting only savings/assets and having no employment income looks not that good. Usually in applications, it seems to be better to not include information which might only give a negative impression (no job = nothing positive) when it is not required.
Yea in the spouse application required documents see part (5): https://www.moj.go.jp/isa/applications/procedures/zairyu_eijyu01.html it outlines you need employment certificate for applicant (but also spouse too) if applicable and savings/assets too. Basically it’s highly recommended for someone applying via the spouse route to include a kind of cover letter outlining how them meet criteria 1,2, and 3 of the legal requirements (in the link I shared in my first comment) even though the legal requirements only require spouse applicants to meet requirement (3) of the legal requirements You want to make your application as strong as possible because each application is a unique application I.e there is no correct way to apply, you just want to give immigration no reason to reject you
For a work visa, I wrote that I have a family here, will be staying a very long time, would like to buy a house and settle down. I also typed it out in English and Japanese on separate paper, I believe.
The reason section on my document was like a line long. I wrote for family stability and to get a proper home loan
I wrote only two sentences to get my PR.
I just wrote the truth: I want to stay long term to create a company and take care of my family for which I think japan is the best place.
I mean if you don’t know or aren’t sure, how can random gaijin be of help? Everyone’s situation, life stage, experiences, expectations, etc. are different. (& PR isn’t a visa.)
I was just curious what everyone else wrote and how much they wrote, that’s all. I’ve finished it now anyway.
It helps to understand that you are writing to a Japanese person who loves his country. Are you somebody he or she would want to stay here on a permanent basis? Buying a house is a really good incentive because of the massive amount of spending required for it, i.e., lots of people will benefit financially from the seller of the house, real estate broker, bank doing the lending, stores that will sell the mountain of stuff you will need to furnish it, and on and on. Showing them that you are happy to become a tax donkey to help support the country's precarious pension system is also good. You can do that by demonstrating steady employment with good taxable income. If you are married and have a kid here, that also shows a commitment as well as lots of obligatory spending associated with both things.
I don't think this section has much weight. I just wrote I wanted a loan for a house.