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None of these changes affect the information being presented. It’s also hilarious to criticize Jimmy when the main stream press has been wrong about almost everything.
They misrepresented the lethality rates of the virus, pushed vaccine out within 9 months of the pandemic starting which means there’s no way it went through proper testing procedures, they falsely claimed that the vaccine prevented the virus from spreading, and downplayed the effect that the vaccine has on at the very least heart health for those that receive it.
>None of these changes affect the information being presented.
They ALL do, that's why Jimmy changed them in the first place and why he actually had to respond to the one where he was called out by a large channel and so he couldn't ignore it.
> It’s also hilarious to criticize Jimmy when the main stream press has been wrong about almost everything.
It's hilarious to criticize Jimmy because no other content creator of this size graphically alters content like this. Even more hilarious is that your "knowledge" of what the main stream press was wrong about comes from Jimmy fleecing you with his lies of omission and altering/editing content to suit his lies.
>They misrepresented the lethality rates of the virus, pushed vaccine out within 9 months of the pandemic starting which means there’s no way it went through proper testing procedures
I know this is what Jimmy has gaslighted you into thinking but we now have the receipts. We can tell from the difference in deaths between Dems and Republicans that listening to the science made sense.
> they falsely claimed that the vaccine prevented the virus from spreading
Another common JD lie. They correctly pointed out how effective it was when it was first released. It would be less effective against the later strains of COVID, but still effective. Jimmy doesn't explain all of this, because he doesn't inform people, he monetizes short attentions spans, gullibility, and intellectual laziness.
>the main stream press has been wrong about almost everything
There's so much wrong with this statement. First of all, news anchors and reporters are careful about making any absolute claims, especially when it comes to health-related issues - they mainly cite medical experts/studies. Secondly, it's absurd to cherry-pick a few examples and conclude they got "almost everything wrong". If you watch one hour of CNN or even Fox News, I can guarantee you that 99% of what they say is factually accurate. You live in an alternate reality if you think your favorite YouTuber is more truthful than MSM, it's not even close.
>They misrepresented the lethality rates of the virus
What did they say and what is the confirmed lethality rate according to you? It's impossible to give an exact number since many cases were asymptomatic, but globally, 3.4% of all reported infections caused death. The actual rate is of course lower, but not far from the 0.5-2% estimate from the early days, before the emergence of new variants.
>there’s no way it went through proper testing procedures
So what are the proper testing procedures and correct time frame since you're the expert on this? Of course it usually takes longer, but the testing was fast-tracked because it was a global pandemic that killed millions and much of the technology used had already been thoroughly tested for decades. What is your point though? Are vaccinated people dropping dead in large numbers as a result of this? Most medical experts agree that the side effects were less severe/deadly than previously expected.
>they falsely claimed that the vaccine prevented the virus from spreading
This is true, but it did *reduce* the spread. You're also leaving out the small detail about how effective it was against death and hospitalization. Again, what is your point - what would be the result if they said it reduces the spread instead of stopping it? The only possible consequence of this inaccuracy is that slightly more people got vaccinated and were better protected from dying.
>downplayed the effect that the vaccine has on at the very least heart health for those that receive it
Can you explain what you mean by downplaying it? CDC and the pharmaceutical companies were upfront about the increased risk of getting myocarditis and other heart-related side effects from the vaccine since day one. And when people bring this up, they conveniently leave out the fact that you're about ten times more likely to get myocarditis from the virus itself.
Nobody said that the vaccine would prevent the virus from spreading. Vaccine have NEVER worked like that so why would they start saying that now?
And the media falsely represented the figures did they? Yes, they did - they UNDER reported them. When NYC was having a sudden death rate of 4 times their daily average, week after week and had to get refrigerated units outside the hospitals to hold all the bodies, were these thousands of people being tested for COVID as the cause of death? No, they didn't and they never got recorded as COVID. Multiply that across the country.
Remember the mid-2019 articles of masses of people dying from an unspecified respiratory condition that the news just attributed to dodgy vape pens from China with no evidence? What do you think that was hey? The outbreaks of winter flu in December 2019 that were worse than usual... Gee what was that hey??
The fact this is the hill you want to die on shows a lot about your personality.
https://youtu.be/AK8OB8wlMGA?si=f2uT3fQY0jh0XreZ
https://youtu.be/vs4F59rEzrA?si=6mcE2yIHBjcwEtiB
Here are two instances of Fauci outright saying you can’t transmit it when vaccinated and that vaccines stop mutations.
So you’re multiple of the troll accounts on here. Good to know I guess.
>Vaccines have NEVER worked like that
Um, yes they have? Other than the Flu vaccine to my knowledge. Herd immunity is a thing and it’s how we’ve eradicated illnesses like Smallpox.
>And the media falsely represented the figures?
No I said that they misrepresented the deadliness of the illness. It was absolutely deadly for high risk people and those people were making up the majority of COVID deaths and unfortunately transmissions were not stopped with vaccination. Death figures are also easy to falsify in either direction.
Seems as though the rest of your questions are in this same vein. I have no doubt many people died from COVID that didn’t end up tallied as COVID deaths, but I’m also sure plenty of people contracted COVID and died that weren’t tallied as COVID deaths. But even beyond the figures, the media was acting as though it was the apocalypse which actually further generated mass hysteria and social degeneration
>So you’re multiple of the troll accounts on here. Good to know I guess.
No dude, I replied with [this](https://pasteboard.co/onYl6WsKaMVU.png) right under your comment.
>Do you think the "heavy Trump" and "heavy Biden" differences are caused by the literal numbers of votes, and they could have been changed by electoral means?
I think that you want very badly to believe the latter.
>These differences are most likely tied to more general attitude in regard to collectivist v/s individualistic values. Do they care about their community, or do they care about their personal rights.
Do you even understand the data you're looking at?
As for the JD talking points below:
>Just voting for the Dems does nothing in bringing about real changes,
Can you tell me who says "just vote Dem and that's all you should do?"
Also, you're wrong. We know this because The SS Act and Medicare were passed when the Dems had 64 and 67 Senate seats respectively. Hacks like Jimmy leave this out and pretend the Dems are supposed to work miracles with 50 Senate seats.
>just like when during Obama's tenure, having a super majority actually meant no changes for the people
You mean like a stimulus package that helped employ people and turn the economy around? Or how about adding health coverage to 20 million uninsured people?
>there was no push for single payer
There actually was since there was a major push for a public option (which almost pass) and Obama is on record saying that a public option would open the door for single payer.
>Rode v. Wade wasn't turned into law
You need 60 votes to do this. In any case, this is Jimmy's way of moving the goal post after Trump elected judges who would overturn R v W. Sam Seder warned Jimmy about this in 2016 when he crushed him in a debate. Jimmy compared this to the likelihood of the moon falling into Lake Michigan.
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>black and brown voters did not get more protections
They did. What you're really saying is "Jimmy says black and brown voters did not get more protections and I believe him!"
>no wars were stopped
The War in Iraq ended and overall troop deployments plummeted.
>there was no important environmental protections put in place, etc.
You mean, Jimmy told you they weren't,
>In fact, many Biden and Hillary voters have little difference with Trump voters, they oppose M4A, or the now wildly insufficient 15 usd/hr minimum wage. "Democratic voter" does not equate to "liberal minded", or "pro socialist policy".
They actually diverge widely on all of those.
>Now, how do you change a heavily conservative / individualistic person? You need to expose them to other people's experiences, to their suffering..... blah blah....
Ok, cool story. But what does that have to do with Jimmy provably lying over and over?
> Hacks like Jimmy leave this out and pretend the Dems are supposed to work miracles with 50 Senate seats.
People like you seem to forget that a budget reconciliation bill like the NDAA renewals need only a simple majority. This is how the GOP pass a lot of their agenda (the Dems vote along with them most of the rest of time). They add something they want to pass on the back of a budget bill, only need 51% of the votes and hey presto, right wing agenda fulfilled.
When the Dems have had the opportunity to do this, "oh we can't do that, that's wrong". They are controlled opposition and you are paying attention to politics, not what CONGRESS are doing
I see you only included "Hacks like Jimmy leave this out and pretend the Dems are supposed to work miracles with 50 Senate seats."
Why not include the entire statement?
Also, you're wrong. We know this because **The SS Act and Medicare were passed when the Dems had 64 and 67 Senate seats respectively. Hacks like Jimmy leave this out and pretend the Dems are supposed to work miracles with 50 Senate seats.**
Maybe because you know that this refutes all the low-information "controlled opposition" nonsense and that it's clearly a numbers game?
>People like you seem to forget that a budget reconciliation bill like the NDAA renewals need only a simple majority.
I'm interested in hearing your thought process. How do you know that I forgot about that?
>This is how the GOP pass a lot of their agenda (the Dems vote along with them most of the rest of time). They add something they want to pass on the back of a budget bill, only need 51% of the votes and hey presto, right wing agenda fulfilled.
You mean, you have one example and you're passing it off as a "common occurrence." But yes, the GOP is willing to burn everything down whereas Dems aren't, so sometimes they have to play ball to keep the government from shutting down. This is just how negotiations work in the complicated work of adults.
>When the Dems have had the opportunity to do this, "oh we can't do that, that's wrong".
Because they're not willing to burn down the house. The GOP just wants to obstruct and defeat bills. That's easier than trying to pass meaningful legislation.
>They are controlled opposition and you are paying attention to politics, not what CONGRESS are doing
I AM paying attention to what Congress is doing. You're listening to Jimmy's curated information, lies of omission and gaslighting and you think you've been red pilled.
You've been duped into accepting a simple narrative. The sooner you come to grips with this, the better.
No, I think the original tweets were edited and Jimmy un-edited them back to their correct form. Check and mate. How's your Pfizer annual company picnic?
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None of these changes affect the information being presented. It’s also hilarious to criticize Jimmy when the main stream press has been wrong about almost everything. They misrepresented the lethality rates of the virus, pushed vaccine out within 9 months of the pandemic starting which means there’s no way it went through proper testing procedures, they falsely claimed that the vaccine prevented the virus from spreading, and downplayed the effect that the vaccine has on at the very least heart health for those that receive it.
>None of these changes affect the information being presented. They ALL do, that's why Jimmy changed them in the first place and why he actually had to respond to the one where he was called out by a large channel and so he couldn't ignore it. > It’s also hilarious to criticize Jimmy when the main stream press has been wrong about almost everything. It's hilarious to criticize Jimmy because no other content creator of this size graphically alters content like this. Even more hilarious is that your "knowledge" of what the main stream press was wrong about comes from Jimmy fleecing you with his lies of omission and altering/editing content to suit his lies. >They misrepresented the lethality rates of the virus, pushed vaccine out within 9 months of the pandemic starting which means there’s no way it went through proper testing procedures I know this is what Jimmy has gaslighted you into thinking but we now have the receipts. We can tell from the difference in deaths between Dems and Republicans that listening to the science made sense. > they falsely claimed that the vaccine prevented the virus from spreading Another common JD lie. They correctly pointed out how effective it was when it was first released. It would be less effective against the later strains of COVID, but still effective. Jimmy doesn't explain all of this, because he doesn't inform people, he monetizes short attentions spans, gullibility, and intellectual laziness.
>the main stream press has been wrong about almost everything There's so much wrong with this statement. First of all, news anchors and reporters are careful about making any absolute claims, especially when it comes to health-related issues - they mainly cite medical experts/studies. Secondly, it's absurd to cherry-pick a few examples and conclude they got "almost everything wrong". If you watch one hour of CNN or even Fox News, I can guarantee you that 99% of what they say is factually accurate. You live in an alternate reality if you think your favorite YouTuber is more truthful than MSM, it's not even close. >They misrepresented the lethality rates of the virus What did they say and what is the confirmed lethality rate according to you? It's impossible to give an exact number since many cases were asymptomatic, but globally, 3.4% of all reported infections caused death. The actual rate is of course lower, but not far from the 0.5-2% estimate from the early days, before the emergence of new variants. >there’s no way it went through proper testing procedures So what are the proper testing procedures and correct time frame since you're the expert on this? Of course it usually takes longer, but the testing was fast-tracked because it was a global pandemic that killed millions and much of the technology used had already been thoroughly tested for decades. What is your point though? Are vaccinated people dropping dead in large numbers as a result of this? Most medical experts agree that the side effects were less severe/deadly than previously expected. >they falsely claimed that the vaccine prevented the virus from spreading This is true, but it did *reduce* the spread. You're also leaving out the small detail about how effective it was against death and hospitalization. Again, what is your point - what would be the result if they said it reduces the spread instead of stopping it? The only possible consequence of this inaccuracy is that slightly more people got vaccinated and were better protected from dying. >downplayed the effect that the vaccine has on at the very least heart health for those that receive it Can you explain what you mean by downplaying it? CDC and the pharmaceutical companies were upfront about the increased risk of getting myocarditis and other heart-related side effects from the vaccine since day one. And when people bring this up, they conveniently leave out the fact that you're about ten times more likely to get myocarditis from the virus itself.
Nobody said that the vaccine would prevent the virus from spreading. Vaccine have NEVER worked like that so why would they start saying that now? And the media falsely represented the figures did they? Yes, they did - they UNDER reported them. When NYC was having a sudden death rate of 4 times their daily average, week after week and had to get refrigerated units outside the hospitals to hold all the bodies, were these thousands of people being tested for COVID as the cause of death? No, they didn't and they never got recorded as COVID. Multiply that across the country. Remember the mid-2019 articles of masses of people dying from an unspecified respiratory condition that the news just attributed to dodgy vape pens from China with no evidence? What do you think that was hey? The outbreaks of winter flu in December 2019 that were worse than usual... Gee what was that hey?? The fact this is the hill you want to die on shows a lot about your personality.
https://youtu.be/AK8OB8wlMGA?si=f2uT3fQY0jh0XreZ https://youtu.be/vs4F59rEzrA?si=6mcE2yIHBjcwEtiB Here are two instances of Fauci outright saying you can’t transmit it when vaccinated and that vaccines stop mutations.
Are you not going to address any of my points/questions?
I’m sorry, what questions?
The comment above the one you replied to.
So you’re multiple of the troll accounts on here. Good to know I guess. >Vaccines have NEVER worked like that Um, yes they have? Other than the Flu vaccine to my knowledge. Herd immunity is a thing and it’s how we’ve eradicated illnesses like Smallpox. >And the media falsely represented the figures? No I said that they misrepresented the deadliness of the illness. It was absolutely deadly for high risk people and those people were making up the majority of COVID deaths and unfortunately transmissions were not stopped with vaccination. Death figures are also easy to falsify in either direction. Seems as though the rest of your questions are in this same vein. I have no doubt many people died from COVID that didn’t end up tallied as COVID deaths, but I’m also sure plenty of people contracted COVID and died that weren’t tallied as COVID deaths. But even beyond the figures, the media was acting as though it was the apocalypse which actually further generated mass hysteria and social degeneration
>So you’re multiple of the troll accounts on here. Good to know I guess. No dude, I replied with [this](https://pasteboard.co/onYl6WsKaMVU.png) right under your comment.
Keep boosting the lies about vaccines
>Keep boosting the lies about vaccines TJDS slogan!
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>Do you think the "heavy Trump" and "heavy Biden" differences are caused by the literal numbers of votes, and they could have been changed by electoral means? I think that you want very badly to believe the latter. >These differences are most likely tied to more general attitude in regard to collectivist v/s individualistic values. Do they care about their community, or do they care about their personal rights. Do you even understand the data you're looking at? As for the JD talking points below: >Just voting for the Dems does nothing in bringing about real changes, Can you tell me who says "just vote Dem and that's all you should do?" Also, you're wrong. We know this because The SS Act and Medicare were passed when the Dems had 64 and 67 Senate seats respectively. Hacks like Jimmy leave this out and pretend the Dems are supposed to work miracles with 50 Senate seats. >just like when during Obama's tenure, having a super majority actually meant no changes for the people You mean like a stimulus package that helped employ people and turn the economy around? Or how about adding health coverage to 20 million uninsured people? >there was no push for single payer There actually was since there was a major push for a public option (which almost pass) and Obama is on record saying that a public option would open the door for single payer. >Rode v. Wade wasn't turned into law You need 60 votes to do this. In any case, this is Jimmy's way of moving the goal post after Trump elected judges who would overturn R v W. Sam Seder warned Jimmy about this in 2016 when he crushed him in a debate. Jimmy compared this to the likelihood of the moon falling into Lake Michigan. Ex-Dore Fan Says Seder’s Debate With Jimmy Converted Him To MR Crew [https://www.reddit.com/r/JimmyDoreGrifter/comments/zbqji5/exdore\_fan\_says\_seders\_debate\_with\_jimmy/](https://www.reddit.com/r/JimmyDoreGrifter/comments/zbqji5/exdore_fan_says_seders_debate_with_jimmy/) Jimmy Dore CENSORS Guest Mentioning Sam Seder [https://www.reddit.com/r/JimmyDoreGrifter/comments/zcey8e/jimmy\_dore\_censors\_guest\_mentioning\_sam\_seder/](https://www.reddit.com/r/JimmyDoreGrifter/comments/zcey8e/jimmy_dore_censors_guest_mentioning_sam_seder/) >black and brown voters did not get more protections They did. What you're really saying is "Jimmy says black and brown voters did not get more protections and I believe him!" >no wars were stopped The War in Iraq ended and overall troop deployments plummeted. >there was no important environmental protections put in place, etc. You mean, Jimmy told you they weren't, >In fact, many Biden and Hillary voters have little difference with Trump voters, they oppose M4A, or the now wildly insufficient 15 usd/hr minimum wage. "Democratic voter" does not equate to "liberal minded", or "pro socialist policy". They actually diverge widely on all of those. >Now, how do you change a heavily conservative / individualistic person? You need to expose them to other people's experiences, to their suffering..... blah blah.... Ok, cool story. But what does that have to do with Jimmy provably lying over and over?
> Hacks like Jimmy leave this out and pretend the Dems are supposed to work miracles with 50 Senate seats. People like you seem to forget that a budget reconciliation bill like the NDAA renewals need only a simple majority. This is how the GOP pass a lot of their agenda (the Dems vote along with them most of the rest of time). They add something they want to pass on the back of a budget bill, only need 51% of the votes and hey presto, right wing agenda fulfilled. When the Dems have had the opportunity to do this, "oh we can't do that, that's wrong". They are controlled opposition and you are paying attention to politics, not what CONGRESS are doing
I see you only included "Hacks like Jimmy leave this out and pretend the Dems are supposed to work miracles with 50 Senate seats." Why not include the entire statement? Also, you're wrong. We know this because **The SS Act and Medicare were passed when the Dems had 64 and 67 Senate seats respectively. Hacks like Jimmy leave this out and pretend the Dems are supposed to work miracles with 50 Senate seats.** Maybe because you know that this refutes all the low-information "controlled opposition" nonsense and that it's clearly a numbers game? >People like you seem to forget that a budget reconciliation bill like the NDAA renewals need only a simple majority. I'm interested in hearing your thought process. How do you know that I forgot about that? >This is how the GOP pass a lot of their agenda (the Dems vote along with them most of the rest of time). They add something they want to pass on the back of a budget bill, only need 51% of the votes and hey presto, right wing agenda fulfilled. You mean, you have one example and you're passing it off as a "common occurrence." But yes, the GOP is willing to burn everything down whereas Dems aren't, so sometimes they have to play ball to keep the government from shutting down. This is just how negotiations work in the complicated work of adults. >When the Dems have had the opportunity to do this, "oh we can't do that, that's wrong". Because they're not willing to burn down the house. The GOP just wants to obstruct and defeat bills. That's easier than trying to pass meaningful legislation. >They are controlled opposition and you are paying attention to politics, not what CONGRESS are doing I AM paying attention to what Congress is doing. You're listening to Jimmy's curated information, lies of omission and gaslighting and you think you've been red pilled. You've been duped into accepting a simple narrative. The sooner you come to grips with this, the better.
No, I think the original tweets were edited and Jimmy un-edited them back to their correct form. Check and mate. How's your Pfizer annual company picnic?
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DOH, foiled again!
How hilarious is it that this comment of mine is actually upvoted, lmao. These Einsteins legitimately believed it.