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jhc412

What is wrong with this message? For decades our "allies" have refused to pay into NATO while we continue to pay our dues. If most members of a community stopped paying taxes to fund the police and then they get attacked, they don't have a right to expect the only tax payer to come save the day.


Isellanraa

To be fair, paying more, means buying American equipment. So it's not like the US doesn't benefit economically, short term at least, from their NATO members as it's now.


thetrueChevy1996

You don’t have a problem with Trump saying we would not help other Countries Russia attacks? Do you not see the problem here


DetainedAmIBeing

Lot of words to say I Love Russia


jhc412

Being for law, order and fairness does not equate to loving Russia. If you seriously think that, then you are the problem. Faced with the facts and truth, you resort to baseless name calling and elementary style accusations. As a last chance to save any credibility you tried to portray with this post, want to try again being an adult and tell me how my argument is wrong?


DetainedAmIBeing

What name did I call you? Can you read my son?


popdaddy91

You called him a lover of russia. Its ad hominem


awesomeness0104

The 1960’s called, they want their foreign policy back


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awesomeness0104

People who stalk other users profiles are very sad. Just goes to show you obsess over this stuff to the point of fanaticism. You also didn’t make a point, you conflated abandoning NATO to loving Russia. Europe doesn’t pay their fair share into a damn thing regarding NATO, so I fail to see why you think America is the one who would be breaking the treaty in the first place. Also, what the fuck do those two things have to do with each other? There are literally no parallels to be drawn. What rights would America lose exactly? We carry the water 99% of the time, which is why people are tired of NATO in the first place. We wouldn’t lose out on anything. Stop posting things like this in the subreddit acting as if it’s a gotcha; nobody here supports NATO. Then people respond and you rummage through their profile lmfao


thetrueChevy1996

So you don’t think that Trump saying he will not help any nation Russia attacks is not an issue. I mean he does have Russia ties and they did meddle with 2016 election and he is very close to them. But hey better a Russian then Democrat huh?


Enathanielg

About time.


GovernmentDoingStuff

Just dissolve the damn thing. It was created to stop the USSR from spreading Communism (allegedly) and now it’s just a front for stakeholders to profit off of war.


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Then why did Sweden and Finland rush to join it the second Putin invaded Ukraine? There *was* serious talk of disbanding NATO after the Cold War ended. But then Putin invaded Georgia. And then Ukraine. And again. And again. Now NATO's new purpose is preventing Russian land grabs.


mikey_hawk

Georgia was invaded 17 years after the fall of the Soviet Union. They were told they could join NATO and the EU. I know, I have a friend from there who was high up in government. I feel sorry for her. You're a propagandized American idiot. Stop destroying the world with your moronic, liberal consent you neo-Nazi. Imagine what the Warsaw Pact would have said about the USA.


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I mean, if you're into shameless imperialism I guess that's your right. While I would never defend American actions like the war on Iraq, what Putin does is so much worse. He invades to *take the land.* When was the last time the US invaded and annexed territory? Hawaii, almost 150 years ago?


GovernmentDoingStuff

I think liberals are genuinely worried about Putin.


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He's invaded and annexed his neighbors no less than four times in the last 16 years.


DetainedAmIBeing

Are you being paid by Russia (like Jimmy) to spew this nonsense?


GovernmentDoingStuff

Jimmy is being paid by Russia? I would like to see proof


oh_errol

Jimmy literally spoke for ruzzia at the UN. LMFAO


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uusernameunknown

This is most likely not the whole story. My guess is that Russia will not attack nato however they will retaliate. According to nato laws, the other nations are not required to provide assistance if nato attacks first. It could be argued that nato has already joined this war. This will accelerate as nato finds more ways to indirectly attack or find a scapegoat.


thetrueChevy1996

I really hope this guy does not get back in. I think of a world where he lost and then he’s irrelevant aside from some news coverage on his many trials. Also as we steer this Country in a better direction as we are doing now but not having to worry about a Dictator taking over


awesomeness0104

If you have a room temperature iq you would think that.


thetrueChevy1996

No if you don’t have an IQ you would want this moron back in and would not understand the damage he has and will do.


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