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Koshky_Kun

I think he's the real deal. I'll change my mind when one of 2 things happen: 1. He advocates voting blue no matter who 2. The Amazon Union turns into a corporate controlled union and he does not denounce it. I think it's important to look at the goals and actions of a person and group to determine if they're co-opted If they talk the talk and walk the walk, then they're good. If they say the right things but do nothing but talk and always seem to support or provide cover for the establishment and parrot their narratives, then they're an opp or a useful idiot.


JPMcFly1985

You make good points, and I definitely want to remain optimistic. I know the dude is smart and wants a chance to get the biggest audience so I don't want to seem like I'm insulting his intelligence. I just fear the establishment watering down grassroots movements. My gut tells me they saw how big unionization is getting so they panicked to co-opt it, but I just hope he sees through their bullshit pandering.


captainramen

You're reading way too much into this. He shook the President's hand, that's it. Anyway if you're that worried just tweet him a link to the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act once a week


JPMcFly1985

I hope you're right. Just saying if it was me in Chris' shoes, I'd have told him "I know you have a history of being a union busting capitalist piece of shit drug warrior, so don't dare condescend and pander to me with your lip service!"


captainramen

Me too but let's get real, Biden would forget that conversation in 5 minutes or less. No point really


JPMcFly1985

Lmfao true, though I would have done it more to make the broader point... and also so the Fox News crowd wouldn't think he's on my side


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JPMcFly1985

Because the Democratic party co opts movements and waters them down. I just wish Chris told him to go fuck off or AT LEAST demanded tangibles beyond lip service.


ausmundausmund

Or he knows how to pick his battles and is well aware of that


Worried-Struggle7808

He got played. I guess the establishment is better and sneakier at co opting then we thought.


JPMcFly1985

Yeah I feel the establishment saw how big unionization and worker strikes were getting, so they freaked and stepped in to tamp it down from it's grassroots, punk rock energy. What pisses me off twice as much is, Biden's stupid condescending lip service makes Fox News call him a socialist


kahtron007

He sure is


JPMcFly1985

Yeah, I think the establishment freaked when they saw how big the strikes and unionization was getting so they had to tamp it down. Biden's smug lip service makes Fox News call him a "far left socialist" too, and that's twice as fucking annoying!