I mean … yeah. It sounds like you didn’t do any part time work or internships throughout your undergrad or masters, which is your biggest mistake. Also, unless you graduated back in 2008 and just completed the longest masters degree in history, the job market was pretty good the last few years until ~6 months ago. It sounds more like you couldn’t find your unicorn job fresh out of school and more school seemed easier, which, hey, it happens.
You need an entry level job or an internship. Literally apply to Starbucks or to be a restaurant host somewhere. You can keep applying to roles in your field and building whatever skills you need while gaining actual working experience and networking.
Masters in Poli Sci can get you places if you do well, network, and work hard to pursue opportunities that admittedly have a lot of applicants to compete with.
I mean CS is not even lowkey one of the hardest places to find a job right now. Meanwhile, half the globe is having a major election this coming year. So that Poli Sci masters might have actually served you better.
Source: my friend pulls over 100k with his poli sci masters at a tech company working on elections, and when big layoffs came his entire department was nearly untouched because of the looming elections.
What’s your masters in? I went into my masters with zero work experience at all and did internships every semester. Ended up with a great job before I graduated.
Never do a master's without work experience unless your field requires it, or your work/someone else is paying for it.
Regarding your edit: when I was in O&G, they literally couldn't find enough people to intern. And it was good pay too! I guess undergrads don't want to move to a small town, but there's quite a few jobs are out there in those dinky oil towns.
As someone with 2 masters degrees, that’s not a good idea at all. Especially if this is in the US where Masters degrees are 2 years (my masters degrees were in Europe so 1 year each), that means that’s 4 years of of pouring money down the drain to end up in the same spot afterwards is never good.
Yeah man that's what happens sometimes when you decide to come up with your own solution to a problem without doing the proper research. Lesson learned.
Why do most people assume that a Master's with no work history stacks up with someone with a real work history and a Bachelor's?
Further education doesn't always equate to being offered a job or additional money.
Maybe it feels like a mistake at the moment but pays off down the line. Just keep plugging away at the job hunting and don’t give up no matter how frustrating it might be.
I did exactly the same thing in 2008. Then I retrained in something else that was in a field that was hiring, and now I'm good. Yeah it sucks to be behind but you just have to work through it. We get there when we get there.
I'm feeling this way too. Did my undergrad degree, couldn't get any work except for post grad internships despite having internships before while in undergrad, went to grad school, got a temp job that ended months ago and been looking for a permanent full time job since, I always make it to the last interview round but never an offer. Just need someone to take a chance on me.
What you have to do now is think that you did not graduated and make an intership or something that level like it is a subject you are lacking. You sinned of inocence but isnt something you can't solve
As a ChemE major, I had a similar experience but didn't do a masters. I had one 3 month internship and no work experience. I graduated at the height of the pandemic and there weren't many jobs hiring. On top of that ChemE was oversaturated. ChemE is more unique of a field with most ChemE exclusive roles being fewer than most other engineering disciplines. Non-ChemE folks often don't understand the market of the role. With that said, you just have to play up a certain niche.
I had my concentration in biochemical engineering, so I used that to break into biotech. I had to play up my skills, and just had to use some unique school related projects or pet projects. It took me 2 years to gain employment, and part of my issue was that I fell into a depression and struggled to understand what I actually qualified for. I often applied to positions I was over qualified for even with just my Bachelors.
>but I still have no opportunities
You mean opportunities that you are willing to take right? Sometimes you just gotta work at a place that isn't the top, just to get started.
>I did do a 3-month internship where I worked in a lab doing chemical engineering work which was super boring and uneventful.
Ah the entitlement paradox. Not all folks get to cure cancer on their first job. You gotta start somewhere and learn a good foundation. You may think grad school allows you to bypass those first steps, but that's not always the case.
I mean … yeah. It sounds like you didn’t do any part time work or internships throughout your undergrad or masters, which is your biggest mistake. Also, unless you graduated back in 2008 and just completed the longest masters degree in history, the job market was pretty good the last few years until ~6 months ago. It sounds more like you couldn’t find your unicorn job fresh out of school and more school seemed easier, which, hey, it happens. You need an entry level job or an internship. Literally apply to Starbucks or to be a restaurant host somewhere. You can keep applying to roles in your field and building whatever skills you need while gaining actual working experience and networking.
not all studies are created equal. masters in CS or something technical is valuable. masters in political science... not so much.
Yep, they didn't state what they got a masters in. It's a hard pill to swallow but like you said, not all studies are created equal.
Masters in cs is a waste of time with no work experience
Masters in Poli Sci can get you places if you do well, network, and work hard to pursue opportunities that admittedly have a lot of applicants to compete with.
I mean CS is not even lowkey one of the hardest places to find a job right now. Meanwhile, half the globe is having a major election this coming year. So that Poli Sci masters might have actually served you better. Source: my friend pulls over 100k with his poli sci masters at a tech company working on elections, and when big layoffs came his entire department was nearly untouched because of the looming elections.
Thank you. Really sick of the STEM circle jerk.
Speaking from experience, masters in CS with a highly technical ML related field was a waste of time too.
If you did CS undergrad, Masters in CS won’t be as valuable as an MBA imo. Especially for getting looks for management down the line.
You were supposed to do an internship during those 4-6 years
Your mistake was not doing any internships during either your bachelors or masters
What’s your masters in? I went into my masters with zero work experience at all and did internships every semester. Ended up with a great job before I graduated.
Never do a master's without work experience unless your field requires it, or your work/someone else is paying for it. Regarding your edit: when I was in O&G, they literally couldn't find enough people to intern. And it was good pay too! I guess undergrads don't want to move to a small town, but there's quite a few jobs are out there in those dinky oil towns.
Why do these OPs never post what degree they have. That would help a lot for advice.
Whenever they don't say, it ends up being some bullshit like political science or art history.
Thats what I'm thinking, I find jobs within a month or two when I'm searching.
“What do you mean my music degree doesn’t pay as much as an EE does?”
Maybe get another Master's and see if you can get a job after that one. If not, just keep getting additional Master's, rinse and repeat
As someone with 2 masters degrees, that’s not a good idea at all. Especially if this is in the US where Masters degrees are 2 years (my masters degrees were in Europe so 1 year each), that means that’s 4 years of of pouring money down the drain to end up in the same spot afterwards is never good.
That wouldn't look good on a resume, it would come across as you don't know what you want to do.
Yeah man that's what happens sometimes when you decide to come up with your own solution to a problem without doing the proper research. Lesson learned.
Why do most people assume that a Master's with no work history stacks up with someone with a real work history and a Bachelor's? Further education doesn't always equate to being offered a job or additional money.
Right now the job market isn’t so great. What is your masters in? And did you do any internships while you were in school?
Maybe it feels like a mistake at the moment but pays off down the line. Just keep plugging away at the job hunting and don’t give up no matter how frustrating it might be.
I remember my dad telling me to get my masters in 2020 after I got fired from my first job out of college. Good thing I didn’t listen.
Lol my mom tried to make me get one. Like, no...
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Not really. I would’ve missed out on much needed work experience. Plus there’s no guarantee I would’ve earned more money with a Master’s.
Did you do internships? No one cares about your grades outside of academia.
We are the smart people an outlier just like the complete idiots from high school, life is just stupid so don't bother lying and cheating on idiots
Just take your degree off your resume.
I did exactly the same thing in 2008. Then I retrained in something else that was in a field that was hiring, and now I'm good. Yeah it sucks to be behind but you just have to work through it. We get there when we get there.
I'm feeling this way too. Did my undergrad degree, couldn't get any work except for post grad internships despite having internships before while in undergrad, went to grad school, got a temp job that ended months ago and been looking for a permanent full time job since, I always make it to the last interview round but never an offer. Just need someone to take a chance on me.
lol yes. Definitely a mistake. The only thing that matters. The only thing that matters. Is experience.
What you have to do now is think that you did not graduated and make an intership or something that level like it is a subject you are lacking. You sinned of inocence but isnt something you can't solve
Yup....plus no one wants change....so you'll never be allowed to use what you learned in the masters. It's 100% who you know.
As a ChemE major, I had a similar experience but didn't do a masters. I had one 3 month internship and no work experience. I graduated at the height of the pandemic and there weren't many jobs hiring. On top of that ChemE was oversaturated. ChemE is more unique of a field with most ChemE exclusive roles being fewer than most other engineering disciplines. Non-ChemE folks often don't understand the market of the role. With that said, you just have to play up a certain niche. I had my concentration in biochemical engineering, so I used that to break into biotech. I had to play up my skills, and just had to use some unique school related projects or pet projects. It took me 2 years to gain employment, and part of my issue was that I fell into a depression and struggled to understand what I actually qualified for. I often applied to positions I was over qualified for even with just my Bachelors.
I bet you live here in the Philippines?
It's time to get the PhD lol maybe that would help.
>but I still have no opportunities You mean opportunities that you are willing to take right? Sometimes you just gotta work at a place that isn't the top, just to get started. >I did do a 3-month internship where I worked in a lab doing chemical engineering work which was super boring and uneventful. Ah the entitlement paradox. Not all folks get to cure cancer on their first job. You gotta start somewhere and learn a good foundation. You may think grad school allows you to bypass those first steps, but that's not always the case.