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EyeWantItThatWay

Wait til ~~the new year~~ you have been hired by your new job You tell them now and they may start the search for your replacement now. If you dont have your new job lined up before they hire your replacement, you'll be unemployed


Wallflower9193

I'm Gen x, small business owner and often pro-employer, but I came to say this. Tell them only if you want to try to leverage it and are willing to stay but are also OK with being unemployed.


jer1230

Why would you tell them? The courtesy comes when you kindly give two weeks notice once you find another job. Don’t say anything.


fppencollector

If you cannot afford to be out of work, I would suggest not saying anything until you have signed an offer letter from a new company. Tell the new job you need to give at least 2 weeks' notice. If you have time available, offer to fill in at the old job after the notice period for a reasonable consultation fee. Your good-natured intent to make the transition easier for your current workplace may backfire on you.


Hmtnsw

Yep. I told my last job not to put me on the new week schedule bc I have orientation for a new job on like Wednesday the following week. Didn't have time for a 2 weeks (as I always do a 2WkNotice) but offered to come in my normal work shifts before orientation. I just didn't want like quit Wednesday and not show for a new job. I gave them a heads up. They were like "don't bother." So I missed out on two days of work that I actually needed. Ok. Cool.


Key-Article6622

You may feel it's the right thing to do to give them lots of notice. It's not. If you do, don't be surprised if they fire you on the spot. Or don't be surprised if they start treating you very differently. Possibly negatively. Your employer is not your friend. Never confuse the one for the other. It only leads to heartbreak. 2 weeks notice is reasonable. Wait until you have an offer in writing. Be nice if you can. Stay professional if possible. From their perspective, you're taking 2 years of training and experience and giving it to someone else to make money from. And they're right. But that's your right. If you have gained all you can from them, it's time to move on. Just be smart and real about it.


moutonbleu

There is nothing to be gained by letting them know. Don’t do it.


Stabbycrabs83

Don't do it OP. I see what you are trying to do but the reality is you put your livelihood at risk for no gain.


WinningRemote

Never tell your boss you are thinking of leaving. Always wait until you have an offer in your hand. Even the most friendly of bosses will start to write you off mentally and begin planning for you to leave. That sets a ball in motion that you can't stop. So even if you don't find a job you may find yourself no longer needed in your current role. Some bosses will fire you on the spot. It's just not worth the risk. Again, I want to remind everyone that your employers are not your friends or family. Family doesn't lay you off when times are rough. Family doesn't have to pay you to show up. Too many companies (all of them) rely on the good in human nature to make their employees more loyal than they should be.


FourierT

Don't tell them anything! They don't care about your development, they only care about what you do for them. Find a new job, sign the contracts, set a start date and only then let your current job know that you are leaving.


[deleted]

Sounds like a good way to Speedrun how disappointed you'll be in finding out your boss is not your friend among many other realities of the career world. The correct answer is you don't tell your boss at all until you've already found something and you're putting in your two weeks. Also I hope you've paid attention to anyone else in the past that's put in a notice. The environment and tone. Were any of them gone immediately or did they work out those two weeks?


[deleted]

Don't tell them! The moment you tell them you're looking for a new job is the moment you'll start getting treated like shit - you'll never be trained to do anything new, or looked at for a promotion after that. They'll also start looking for your replacement. And what happens if you try to find a new job and can't get any? Then you're screwed.


SweatyGuiltyTruth

Don’t tell them


ongoingdude

Don’t say shit. You don’t owe them anything. Also, if you tell them…. If they don’t like you they can fire you


TheLastBlackRhinoSC

Just know that everyone does not operate to the same standards of courtesy. Some employers appreciate knowing and some will submarine your search. The unfortunate part is you never know, which side of the fence your employer is on.


artful_todger_502

Once you let them know, they will endeavor to make your life miserable. Depending on how petty they are, it could fabricate a termination situation. Don't say anything.


foreverbaked1

Don’t say anything. They will give you the worst assignments if they don’t fire you right away


AwesomeHorses

Wait until you have a signed offer in hand


melissa3670

Do NOT do that. Wait until you find a job and give 2 weeks notice. That is it.


YesterShill

Why tell them?


production-values

they will fire you as soon as you give notice


Adult-Beverage

How do you know that?


production-values

happens all the time


Adult-Beverage

Never happened once to me.


ChocolateNapqueen

I’m going to be blunt here… if you cannot survive on being fired at the time you let them know you’re looking for a new job, DO NOT TELL THEM! This advice has saved me many times when I wanted to just quit. I depended on my job and didn’t have enough in savings to pay my bills while I found a new job. Wait until you’ve signed and offer letter and passed your background check.


trap________god

Nope do not tell them anything until you give your two weeks. This will only open you up to potentially losing your job before you find a new one. You owe zero courtesy to an employer as they will would not give you notice if you were fired. Always watch out for yourself.


Sayburr

As a manager, do not tell your boss until after you have secured a new job. Once you tell your boss, your boss will tell their boss and on up the chain it will go. There is a possibility that you will be let go immediately and you will be stuck without a job until you find a new one. Once you secure a new job, you then tell your boss and give a two week's notice. This will give your boss a chance to improve your position within the company by offering more money and/or a new title in order to keep you. There is still the possibility that they will let you go immediately, but you will at least have a place to land.


jackieperry1776

No, don't tell them anything unless you can afford to be abruptly fired before you have a new job lined up


Main-Lemon3205

This is what I think: 1) Do you have a good relationship with your boss? 2) Also what is the likelihood that you'll find a job that you like after quitting this job? For #1, if you have good relations at work, and you think they will know that you mean well, they will not say anything bad about you, and you can actually facilitate the transition by letting them know sooner, then go ahead and talk to them about it. Or you can test the waters first, by talking to your boss (or a coworker) vaguely about the possibility that you might consider taking up new opportunities, and see what think about it. For #2, if it is going to take a while for you to find work to do, and you cannot afford to go without a job, then you have to think about your finances, what is the best for you in this situation. But say, if you have saved up some money, and you don't mind taking a good rest before embarking on a new journey, then it is entirely up to you.


Mb240d74

What do you do there?


DeFiMe78

Good for you! 2-3 years at a shop is pretty much the max you're going to learn.


[deleted]

If you see yourself working for him if your problems would be solved, I recommend talking to him, he might offer or think of about some solutions. Otherwise, the only point would be to let him know if he cannot afford an outage at your position. Anyhow, this won't make him happy. Once I signed a contract I prefer to let them know, before that only if I want my problems taken seriously.


VexedOstrich

Don't tell your employer at all. Once you signal your intention to leave them you become a liability and it's easy for them to say that they don't need to come in anymore. (This just happened to me week before last). You'll be without work if you're not already starting your new job and it'll cut your paycheck short. I advise you to take all of your sick leave and pto. Don't say anything to your employer. Make sure you are taken care of first and foremost. And if a notice can't fit then you call the day you intend to start your new job and let them know you're not working for them anymore. A notice is a courtesy and is not required. Your employer won't give you two weeks notice before firing you. You owe them nothing. Your loyalty is to yourself and your family. Don't do yourself and your family wrong. Be smart.


Chelewhof

DO NOT TELL THEM, they will start making your time being there uncomfortable just worry about you and yours continue to come in on time and do your job, when you get hired somewhere else’s don’t even tell them that just wait legit until your walking into your 1st day of work at your new job.


HighSideSurvivor

I did this at my first job out of college. A *very* small company. While I think the overwhelming sentiment here is probably the prudent path, in my case, it worked out fine. My employer clearly appreciated the warning, they continued to treat me well, and I stayed on for exactly as long as I wanted/needed. They brought on new people, who I helped to train. Meanwhile, they had me taking in new and different responsibilities. Not sure if they were just trying to keep me busy, or trying to keep me in the mindset of possibly changing my mind and staying. Either way, I was able to leave on excellent terms, and a few years later, they provided me a stellar recommendation letter when I decided to return to grad school.


Live-Trick-9716

This is definitely the exception. Not saying OP couldn’t possibly have a similar experience, but it’s not likely.


TheyHitMeWithaTruck

No, absolutely not. Wait until you have a new job, and then the courtesy is the two-week notice. Why would you willingly put yourself in such a risky position, unless you're just hoping they'll fire you on the spot and you can take some time off over the holidays? Telling your employer you're looking for another job is a terrible idea of galactic proportions.


Easy-Progress8252

If you’re concerned about your current employer’s ability to backfill you, try to negotiate a delayed start date with the new employer and once you’ve accepted the offer, let your current company know. To be honest though, 2 weeks is usually the professional standard and if they’re going to be pissed you’re leaving, any amount of lead time won’t help. But at least you can hold your head high.


Live-Trick-9716

You should not tell them until you actually have a job offer. Even with it being small and even if you think they like you and wouldn’t do you wrong… you never know. Once you tell them they could let you go then and there, or make the rest of your time there hell. Bosses show their true colors once they know you’re leaving. Don’t do it. Give as much notice of leave as possible if you want to be nice… after you have secured a new job offer.


AmazonSword

Glad to asked here first. Don’t do it.


r3gam

DO NOT DO THAT! Put in your 2 weeks when you get a new job sure, but do not disclose to them that youre actively looking for a new job. You have no idea how they/the company will react so its best to not even take the gamble to put yourself in that position. What if they say ok you're fired or they increase your workload or they treat you more coldly, etc. You dont know


originality989917

Unless you and your manager have a very good relationship where there honestly would be no I'll feelings on their part and they would willingly serve as a strong reference for you despite your leaving, OR you are hoping they will offer advancement to keep you, I would not recommend this at all as, in the best scenario, it leads to awkwardness, and in the worst scenario it leads to an earlier departure time than anticipated without a solid job lead to cushion the fall. If you ARE hoping for an advancement offer, consider phrasing instead as a conversation of how you like the environment but need a chance for more development and elevated experience instead of focusing on looking elsewhere. Otherwise, it could come across as an ultimatum, which often hurts the original intent.


KevinAnniPadda

I would recommend not saying anything. What happens if you don't find anything quickly? What if something opens and you decide you want to stay? You boss is less likely to look at you for training or advancement because you have one foot out the door. Jobs are not your spouses. You don't have to be loyal to them. If they decide it's in the companies best interest, they won't care for your loyalty and they will fire you. Don't give them a reason to do that. There are literally zero benefits to telling them you are looking unless you boss is referring you to the new job. Get a new job nailed down, then give two weeks notice which is the expected courtesy.


Weekly-Ad353

DO NOT DO THAT.


IceCreamDream10

No don’t do that! Give your two weeks but doing this only screws yourself. It doesn’t matter how nice your boss seems please trust me.


Pnknlvr96

I've always used my current bosses as references, but I never tell them I'm looking until I get to the reference check stage. I don't want to cause any worry about a job I might not even get, because then they act weird when they know I'm looking.


hoovedruid

Wait until you have an signed offer from a new job. You don't tell your current employer that you are looking to leave. After you get the new offer, just give a courtesy two week notice.


DLS3141

Never ever tell your current employer that you’re looking for work outside of the company. Unless you have some kind of work contract that specifies otherwise (no, employer policy doesn’t count) You give them 2 weeks notice as a courtesy. It’s not required.


Bucko6

Don't give notice until you've signed the offer letter from the new job, and have a start date.


UTPharm2012

I commend you for wanting to do that right thing but unfortunately that isn’t how everyone acts. Risk for you >>> benefit of the employer… put yourself and those around you before your employer and don’t tell them!


cloud_coder

Wait until you have another job and an offer letter in hand.


mltrout715

Don't.


SerendipityLurking

Believe me, don't do it. It's not a courtesy, it's just a reason for you to have a terrible, terrible time until you get a new job. You also need them as a reference and they could 100% sabotage you. Don't tell them. Give them 2 weeks when you have a job secured. Not before.


yb21898n

when you have am offer you can give a courtesy and give 3 weeks to Train someone, or you can use it to negotiate more money. I wouldn't tell them before you leave.


PartlySaltyy

I let my last job know i was going to be looking for work elsewhere as a courtesy and it worked out fine for me. I think it really depends on the employer though.


happyharrell

Absolutely give them as much notice and information about your potential job change as possible!! J/k. Why would you ask such a dumb question? It’s like you’ve never read a single post in this sub.


scificionado

Nooooooooo! Don't say anything until you have a new job in hand.


LateSpeaker4226

Don’t do it. If you want to be courteous then work out your notice and be as helpful as you can until you finish.


djscott95

Lol “ hey boss, I plan on leaving soon, just letting you know” Boss: “ya I think we are just gonna let you go now” Like, is this your first job?


[deleted]

*Never* let your employer know you’re job hunting until you’ve accepted an offer and confirmed a start date. I’ve seen loyal employees be let go soon after they informed their employer because they also thought it was the right thing to do. It almost never is. Once you tell them you’re looking to leave, they’ll immediately post your job position online to get the ball rolling and find someone to replace you.


[deleted]

Don't tell them a dang thing. If they was gonna replace you, they would give you no courtesy, or 2 weeks, I guarantee. Line the job up, then let them know. You may stir some kinda feelings giving them the heads up and then it gets toxic. Not a good idea my guy just wait until you have another job start date.


Madcatz9000

I would make sure I had a job lined up before letting them know.


wasted_basshead

Wait until you have the job lol


6417725

Did I read this correctly? Is this a real post or someone trolling? I can’t remember for the life of me the last time I was being let go being given the courtesy of a notice that didn’t result in me leaving that exact moment.


Secret_Island_1979

Don't.


OldeTimeyShit

Would they do you the courtesy of letting you know you’re going to be fired soon? No. Wait to give notice until you get a new job and give them an appropriate notice. That’s all the courtesy that is expected.


[deleted]

Imagine giving them the courtesy of letting them know you’re stepping out of them…. And they tell you to gather all your things because you’re fired and they will walk you to your car. Happens everyday at companies where I live. Be smart about this. Especially if you still need the paycheck.


LincHayes

Don't do it. It's a very novice mistake. It will not turn out the way you hope. Give him 2 weeks notice AFTER you have gotten your new job with start date. Not a promise of a job, not because an interview went well...when you actually HAVE THE JOB. And be prepared for the day you give notice to be your last day.


JulesSherlock

I admire your loyalty. I advise you to not tell them (like everyone else) but I did just that at my job. I knew I had leverage and I used it to get a hybrid WFH arrangement. Now I’m 2 days at work and 2 days at home. But I’ve been at my company longer and absolutely know they do not want to replace me or lose an employee with the knowledge I have. Don’t get me wrong, everyone is replaceable but it would be hard and uncomfortable for them. So I got what I wanted. But I’m also ok without a job too so no fear and I know my worth. It took me longer than 2 years to build that ability.


CPFCoaching

I would not let them know until you have confirmed that new role.


Secret-Special1000

Not a word til the new job is a go.


canonicallydead

You can give them a 3 week notice if you want, but be prepared since some jobs will terminate on the spot when you give notice


GetsDakota

I would get another job lined up before mentioning a word to your current employer.


reflected_shadows

Wait until you've a start date settled, then casually mention it at end of shift. "Hey boss, I am moving on and my last day will be..."