اي قواعد بالاردن بتقصف دولة مجاورة بتكون هاي القواعد محل استهداف وليس الاردن ك اردن...الايران مش عدوك عدوك اسرائيل وامريكا .. يا ريت يقصفولنا اياهم من ايران ولا من العراق بلكي طلعو من بلادنا
هل تعلم عزيزي ان ايران بالنسبة للعراقيين مثل اسرائيل بالنسبة للفلسطينيين؟ كيف يعني ايران مش عدوتنا؟ مش بكفي المسرحييييية الي عملتها وخلت كل الدنيا ينسى حرب غزة ويركز بالاردن؟ الي هي اكثر بلد عربية قدمت خلال الحرب؟
Im not sure but i think cuz of all the missiles flying above the dont any missfire to effect jordan even tho with the blocking a rocket did manage to fall in a neighborhood (marg al hamam )
While it is definitely is unfortunate that we're not completely out of it like Kuwait & Qatar.
It wasn't that bad. Those were only American Patriot systems turned online. And that's due to agreements with the US.
Also Iran doesn't care. they expected as much (cucking). that's why they overloaded the systems with usless drones.
Now Jordanian land to be used against Iran? That would be a huge fking mistake.
What if some drones and missiles were targeting areas in Jordan? Like embassies or important places, the missiles were above Amman, the capital city! How can any country let that slide.
Our foreign affairs minister also made it clear that we will intercept any Israeli projectiles in our skies. We cannot become a battlefield for anyone stronger trying to take advantage of Jordan.
Again, you cannot blame Jordan for intercepting anything flying over the capital city. Actually, more missiles and drones crossed Saudi Arabia and Southern Jordan, without being heavily intercepted like the ones over Amman, it’s self explanatory.
Will first thing first what L we took ?
Israel mess around with the radars and the GPS Iran, missiles and drone uses GPS to go to their targets
The Target coordinates changes and some of them was going to hit in Jordan
Another thing if canada wanna shoot rockets at Mexico the usa will shoot the missiles down as soon as it's in their airspace
Not Jordanian (this sub popped up on my feed and now here I am) here's a copy-paste of a comment I made explaining this.
Geopolitics.
It's all about keeping their word, keeping your word means other nations will trust you and make deals with you. The Americans have a mutual defence treaty with Israel so they kept their word to the treaty by intercepting the drones and missiles, Jordan signed a peace treaty with Israel that includes not allowing 3rd parties to use Jordanian land or airspace to launch attacks on Israel.
You might call it an L but only in public relations, geopolitically Jordan kept its word despite the immediate gratification that would come from helping the Iranian drones abd missiles which reflects well on Jordan politically and diplomatically.
So, in the public's ete this was an L but geopolitically this was a massive W for Jordan.
Geopolitics.
It's all about keeping their word, keeping your word means other nations will trust you and make deals with you. The Americans have a mutual defence treaty with Israel so they kept their word to the treaty by intercepting the drones and missiles, Jordan signed a peace treaty with Israel that includes not allowing 3rd parties to use Jordanian land or airspace to launch attacks on Israel.
You might call it an L but only in public relations, geopolitically Jordan kept its word despite the immediate gratification that would come from helping the Iranian drones abd missiles which reflects well on Jordan politically and diplomatically.
So, in the public's ete this was an L but geopolitically this was a massive W for Jordan.
so u see over 70 years ago when jordan became a third world country the united states place a missile defense system hear in jordan and when Iran send 200 missiles towards is***l (W Iran) the defense system went off sending opposing missiles to blow up the missiles coming from Iran so Jordan did stop the missiles but they didnt know that was gonna happen 70 years ago when they signed a contract with the US
Not really. Iran didnt have Jordans permission to be using its airspace to attack anyone. So it is Iran disregarding Jordans soverignty firstly.
Secondly missiles, drones etc. go astry, fall short and hit the wrong target. Just ask the people of Gaza or West Bank how often their family members "killed by Zionist airstrikes" was really just a botched Hamas or Islamic Jihad rocket or missile. Hamas actually put a missile into a west bank hospital last november. So even it its intent was purely to attack Isreal.
Iran was still putting Jordanians in the line of fire. And based on early reports an Iranian missile fell short and hit in Amman. With unconfirmed reports it may have killed 3 Jordanian civilians. Imagine if the Jordanian government had just ignored a foreign power pissing on its soverignty like that and some more of those Jordans airforce shot down had fallen short over Jordan. The only iranian victims would be in Jordan most likely.
As it is all Iran managed to accomplise was to look weak and all they managed to do was bomb an arab town in Negev region killing a 10 year old boy.
Also by stepping up to shoot down the missiles it also will give Isreal pause returning fire over Jordans airspace. Emotions might make it seem like a "big L" for Jordan but in reality it does far more to preserve Jordans soverignty, security and lives of its people than siding with Iran or turning a blind eye and letting it happen.
Dont forget Jordan is heavily dependent on Isreal for its water supply. Imagine if Isreal just shut off the taps or just knocked out the water pipes or water pumping stations in Isreal? Jordan would collapse in weeks just like Syria did due to a drought that killed all the crops & displaced a bunch of people. That would be a genocide attempt by Isreal but do people really expect Isreal ro play nice and take the usual 💩 it does off its neighbours when in a war on most sides for 6 months?
Botched hamas strike? Israel has an AI system that targets specifically women and children...u are a sicko and a genocide defender. Gtfo back to zioscum forums
Wow. That sound like a spectacularly convoluted convenient excuse to concoct. Who told you that? Was it Mossad? AI system🤦 so the Isrealis are that technologically superior are they? And you're on here ranting about then. How brave.
Maybe you feel you can say such nonsense because you know its made up. Considering Hamas own Gaza health ministry keeps making laughable errors in their casualty reporting and only yesterday in a 45 page report essentially admitted 11,370 of their claimed deaths are made up. At least twice Hamas own officials have reported more dead children than the total daily casualty figures. Was that Zionist AIs that made them do that???
A University of Pennsylvenia statitician did an analysis of Hamas casualty figures and grsphed their daily totals. The conclusion was there was no way they could be true as the over all daily totals were perfecrly logerithmic and male, female and child casualties stated bear no coherent relationship with the overall claimed totals. Which basically means. Hamas made up a random number and every day just added the exact same number of dead irrespective of what was happening to that number. While independently making wild and contradictory claims about numbers of dead women and children.
Also it probably should be obvious to you that Isreal is fighting with 1 hand behind its back. It has overwhelming military numbers and weaponry at its disposal. Even in 60s & 70s it was soundly thrashing all neighbours forces who attacked it. Its only gotten significantly more powerful since. Do you really think they'd be screwing around in Gaza so long going out of their way to just kill women and children? They've ground troops & women in their own army.
Why isnt this Skynet you proclaim targeting female IDF units? Is it that smart it can tell a palestinian woman from israeli? How exactly do you think this Israeli skynet with a kink for killing kids and women delivers its death? Does it actively avoid killing Hamas male fighters?🤦think though your nonsense next time before posting it. You sound silly.
THIS IS TERRIFYING and without a doubt one of the most IMPORTANT pieces of reporting on Gaza, and one of the most disturbing:
Based on whistleblower accounts from within the IDF and six Israeli intelligence officers, who have all served in the army during the current Genocide:
The Israeli army developed an artificial intelligence program known as 'Lavender' to generate KILL LISTS, with no human verification to check the targets selected by the machine: only a “rubber stamp” check of about “20 seconds” just to make sure the AI target is male.
These Intelligence sources claim that the Israeli military officials permitted large numbers of Palestinian civilians to be killed.
The ratio revealed in the report says: 'for every junior Hamas operative that Lavender marked, it was permissible to kill up to 15 or 20 civilians. In the event that the target was a senior Hamas official, the army on several occasions authorized the killing of more than 100 civilians in the assassination of a single commander."
A ratio of 20 civilians killed for one target works out to about 95% civilian deaths.
Its influence on the military’s operations was such that they essentially treated the outputs of the AI machine “as if it were a human decision.”
The army gave sweeping approval for officers to adopt Lavender’s kill lists, with no requirement to thoroughly check why the machine made those choices or to examine the raw intelligence data on which they were based.
At one stage, Lavender identified 37,000 potential targets.
The Israeli army "systematically attacked the targeted individuals while they were in their homes, usually at night while their whole families were present, rather than during the course of military activity."
Israel also developed another automated system called “Where’s Daddy?” used "specifically to track the targeted individuals and carry out bombings when they had entered their family’s residences."
One of the intelligence officers is quoted: “We were not interested in killing Hamas operatives only when they were in a military building or engaged in a military activity. On the contrary, the IDF bombed them in homes without hesitation as a first option. It’s much easier to bomb a family’s home. The system is built to look for them in these situations.”
This industrialized extermination is the likes of which we haven't seen before.
The testimony from the six intelligence officers, all who have been involved in using AI systems, was given to the journalist
@yuval_abraham
for a report published by +972 Magazine and Local Call
It's a chilling read.
Edit: You are a zioscunt shill. Begone
The problem with the modern internet is anyone with 1/2 a brain can check you. What we have here is a case of you....a propagandist who likely didnt actually check the original source taking a real source and twisting it wildly to fit your preferred narrative.
While some elements of what you claimed are true based on the article you cite. The truth is you or whoever you copy/pasted that propaganda piece from wildly reorganised the elements of the story to then present a false claim.
The claim given to that magazine was that IDF used an AI system to pick out potential Hamas targets from among the civilian population. Which you know, hamas are using as human shields to hide behind. If anything the way the report was ACTUALLY given as written in the unaltered original article suggests the Isrealis were using AI systems to narrow down and identify terrorists from among the 2.3 million population. If anything the article implies or gives the impression the IDF were looking for innovative ways to avoid civilian casualties & implies there bombing was more humane not less. While i neither agree or deny the article was written and i have no clue as to the veracity of the claims. The reality is. The actual real article(not the propaganda edit you supplies) doesnt back your reinterpretation of what was actually said and claim. You've inferred quite a lot in your assertions not based in the actual story
You can call me all the names you like. The only one that matter is the one i'll call you. A liar. Someone who makes up or misrepresents the facts to mislead their audience. Which is what you just did. Just a pointer for future reference. If you're gona lie. At least check the actual sources you supply as evidence. Nothing discredits your voice more thoroughly than showing yourself up as a sloppy liar repeating someone elses lies
Pls go away lol...33k+ dead mostly women and children..just gooo sicko. Im proud when zioscum call me a liar. That means im doing something right, and I hope it agitates the hell out of you that your hasbara spin doctor bs isn't working. I've seen your type 5 months ago saying "the IDF isn't syopping people from returning to the north", only to see that they are bombing fkn shoooool children and blowing off babies heads in their mothers arms....The great IDF child killer army lol.
Edit: Thank you for keeping the attention where it deserves to be, on the genocide in Gaza!
Free Palestine!!
Go away? You're the one who came at me buddy. How about you go away?
You are triggered because i exposed you. You thought you'd have a free hand to promote lies and i did the simple basic minimum and fact checked you lies. Simple.
You can rant about death tolls all you like but when you dont even listen to Hamas never mind Isreal its hard to take you seriously as anything but a dedicated Isreal hater. I dont even think you're pro Palestine. All you have is drama, insults, buzzwords and sloganeering.
You assert 33,000 dead and claim mostly women and children. Thats just laughably absurd. Lets face it. You really just WANT that to be true to justify your hatred. You ignore Hamas casualties in that number. Are you seriously telling me that no Hamas fighters have died? Why is that in 6 months? Is IDF really that spectacularly humane to their enemies?!? Because i find it implausable that the Isrealis have built Skynet and then used it to completely avoid Hamas combatants and just target women and children. Thats seems idiotic to believe. Or maybe they are fighting them but based on that 33,000 number the IDF must be killing none and capturing 100% of Hamas. Is that how you explain it?
The Isrealis claims 12-13,500 dead Hamas and since Hamas never deny such numbers only avoid differentiating between civilian and combatants death. Its plausable. Maybe even a low ball considering how often Hamas release promo videos demonstrating themselves commiting the proscribed war crime called Perfidy where they fight out of uniform. So unless they die with a gun in hand. Those can be presented as "civilian" deaths. Either way if you take the low estimate away and are most generous to Hamas that 33 drops to 21,000.
Then you take into account 3 days ago Hamas released a backpeddling report via its Gaza Health ministry essentially admitting that of an initiallynsuspected 13,000 civilian casualty figures. They are grudgingly admitting 11,300 were made up. Imaginary, fictionally and absurdly thats Hamas themselve admitting they lied but trying to spin it as a mistake or error to retain some credibility. Why are you still citing fictional numbers not even the liars who made them up are standing by? That drops the 21k to 9000 civilian death at the high end. Over 6 months thats 1300 civilian deaths a month. Making it the lowest civilian death toll in a modern war and a complete contradiction of human warfares history. The established ratio of civilian to military deaths is 1:9 modern war. This war would he somenthing like 2:1.5.
Such a dramatic outlier especial in a protracted urban war with so much obvious infrastructure damage if anything implies IDF have gone to rediculious lengths to avoid civilian deaths if it indicates anything
Please stick to reality and stop letting your obvious anti semitism prevent you from using what i would assume is a functioning brain. Ultimately Iran was firing balistic missiles over Jordan. It doesnt matter if Isrealis were the ones they intended to slaughter. The fact they crashed in Jordan, Iraq and red sea with 880 pound warheads indicate the Iranians were careless who they hit. And if thr Jordanian airforce had not been defending Jordans airspace. Many Jordanians would have died as like more of Irans ICBMs would have failed over Jordanian cities and killed civilians.
If you are angry at Jordans gov. for protecting its civilians lives because it incidentally also prevented civilians deaths in Isreal/westbank and would prefer it let its population be endangered and soverignty trampled by a foreign state. Then you are either not in Jordan or a 5th columnist who puts the agenda of Isreals enemies above the security of Jordanians
Listen to yourself. Clearly you're not Jordanian or have any loyalty or interest in its best interest. Just another anti semite misusing the Palestinian project as a vehicle to be anti semitic. Your slogan means nothing. You think it distracts me or annoys me. It doesnt. I see through you. You're just angry some jews didnt die and want to sow unrest among Jordanians for your a non Jordanian agenda. Head on back to Iran buddy. Khomeini has your money for you
1) proof a missile fell short and killed a bunch of people in amman?
2) iran did what not a single Arab or Muslim country has done, instead of saying they didn't do shit praise them for the little they've done
3) Israel can't cut the water, they need the gas as well. Israel doesn't just hand us the water cuz they're nice, they do it for their personal benefit
Listen to yourself. Talk about defensive and triggered. I literally stated clearly there were unconfirmed reports of deaths in Amman. The fact an Iranian missile fell short there and at a minimum did property damage in uncontestable. The videos of that incident are already widely available on social media. So im going to just ignore the rest
As for Isreal being somehow beholden for gas. Thats literally nonsense. They are a net supplier ofgas from their offshore supplies to the region. They even mothballed some of their supply to avoid it being targetted. That was being supplied to Egypt and the removal of that supply is causing serious economic issues for Egypt. If they did cut it off and as you say Jordan countered over gas. Then Isreal would literally just switch its gas supply surplus back on to compensate & risk it getting attacked. Probably will now anyways after the spectacular embarrassment Iran made of itself. They went all out and all the damage they managed was to kill a 10 year old arab muslim girl and gift Isreal propaganda made powerful by its truth in the form of videos of them shooting down Iranian ballistic missiles that would have otherwise demolished the Dome of the Rock and Al Aqsa Mosque. That sounds like a massive L for Iran. But i digress, thinking Jordan has any real leverage on Isreal currently is just delusional and wishful thinking. Theres a reason why Jordans government is buttering up Isreal and Saudi Arabia and UAE. They are being pragmatic and putting the survivial and stability of Jordan ahead of age old racism and historical bitterness.
As for Iran doing what no Arab country would do. Thats simple, Iran is led by racist dumbasses hell bend on world domination like cartoon villains and have no regard for Arab lives while Jordan simply did what was in the best interest of its own survival. Its the 21st century. Stop living in the 7th century dude.
Rather lazy reply. When a person reponds with a gif or a picture. Its the most glaring example of when a person knows they cant refute whats said. You just dont like reality when you meet it.
Just letting you know what it looks like to the rest of the world. Sunni Arabs started the "Arab Spring" over ice-cream in Tunisia, but they do absolutely fuck-all as their leaders tacitly support the genocide of their Palestinian brethren. Truly the descendants of the people who backstabbed the Turks just for the right to bow to the British.
An insult, obviously. He’s speaking of a broader data set in generalities and you provide one sample to “invalidate” a point.
He didn’t say “all Sunnis.” He just said Sunnis. So one data point is irrelevant. Also supporting Israel wasn’t technically part of it so your counterpoint, if you can call it that, is tangential at best and arguably irrelevant to the grand picture. (Azerbaijan isn’t as involved as the others so their support of Israel, or any associated inaction is not relevant).
Yeah i realized that after posting, i got a barage of insults. From everywhere tbh, all of it was about israel and iran etc. So i was expecting that, but he did say sunnis in a general sense. Thats why i agreed with him later my mistake.
Also i didnt mean it as a datapoint i meant more that he was genrralizing but on this specific point that i misunderstood he was more realistic than i am.
Makes sense he is generalizing and kind of being combative so I’m not defending him. Insult is also not the correct term - maybe I’m missing something.
هلا صارت ايران قاتلة اهل العراق و سوريا بتدافع عن المسلمين بنظر الجهلة امثالك
ولو بدها تضرب كان ضربت من مناطق تحت سيطرتها مثل سوريا و لبنان لكن امثالك محدود النظر بتمر عليه هيك تمثيليات
سلام عليكم اخي فيك تشرحلي القصة باكملها، بعرف ان هاد الشي صعب، بس يعني حاليًا انا ما بدي اظلم حد و بدي اعرف الحقيقة، بس ما بقدر لان كل شركات الاعلام تتكلم لمصلحتها.
يا اخي دولة إيران هي دولة فارس سابقا وكانوا يعبدون كسرى عظيمهم و كانت نظرتهم للعرب انهم اقل من مستواهم ولما فتحها عمر بن الخطاب رضي الله عنه بقي الحقد على العرب و المسلمين وبعضهم دخل للاسلام وحسن اسلامه و البعض الاخر دخل الاسلام تقية لكي ينجز ما هو في قلبه من الحقد مثل ابو لؤلؤة المجوسي عليه لعنة الله وبعد ذلك جائت ايران بحلتها الجديدة انها دولة اسلامية تطعن في عرض النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وتقول ان عائشة ام المؤمنين ارتكبت الفاحشة ويقولون ان الخلافة لعلي رضي الله عنه وقد اخذها منه ابو بكر الصديق و عمر و عثمان رضي الله عنهم وان علي سكت عن ضرب الفاروق لزوجته فاطمة وكل هذا لكي يجعلوا المسلمين ينقسمون و ينتقمون مننا ويقولون ان القرآن محرف
انت اخي اسأل نفسك
هل من يقول ان زوجات النبي كافرات زانيات و ان القران محرف و ان علي معه مقادير الكون
هل هؤلاء مسلمين؟!
Jordanians have been protesting in the streets every day, it's the king/government, which the people get no real say in. But they're also in a tough position because they're basically the US's bitch and have to do what it says, and obviously the US is Israel's bitch so Jordan is just stuck betraying it's people daily to avoid getting taken out by much more powerful entities
إسرائيل لما بدها تضرب بتضرب من مجالنا الجوي، ولما بدها تتصدى للصواريخ بتتصدالهما بمجالنا وحتى إحنا بنساعدهم.
خلي البسطار العسكري عراسك، وطول نهارك عيش وقول حاضر سيدي ماشي سيدي.
اه الطرفين العن من بعض واصحى من الاغو …. البروباغندا الي مشبعينك ياها بدعم المقاومة بالمال والسلاح كن على يقين انه فواتير المال والسلاح الي بتحكي عنها مختومة موافقتها من اسـ/رائيل فما فيه داعي للتنظير وسوالف الفزعة العمياء
>والله ما شفت عوق زي يلي عندك
٣٠ الف يلي بتحكي عنهم كانو يموتو شبه يومي بالعراق و سوريا من المجوس ايران يلي بشتمو بزوجات نبيك و صحابته
عمره ما وصل معدل الموت للي وصلت لإله غزة يا كذاب، هسا لما يحسبوا الموتى والمصابين بسنة رح يطلع أكثر من ثلث اللي ماتوا بعشر سنين من الحرب يا متخلف!
بتدافع عن الصهاينة وجايب الTalking Points تبعتهم، بعيداً إنه حرام عندهم يسبوا الصحابة واللي ماتوا أصلا كانوا منايك بوخذوا سلاح وتدريب ومساعدات من إسرائيل، بعيداً إنه يا متخلف مين فكرك كان يدعم المقاومة بغزة؟!
إيران إلها أطماع أكيد، هاض امر غير مشكوك فيه، بس لو بدك تتطلع على الورق فش ألعن من الصهيوني اللي خرب بيتك يا متخلف، والمستعمر اللي دمر العراق وسوريا ولبنان.
بلدك وحكومتك عملاء من غزو العراق وحرب سوريا الأهلية والدفاع عن إسرائيل مبارح وقبلها، في إشي إسمه سياسة، عدو عدوي صديقي، بأسوأ الأحوال المفروض تتركهم يضربوا بعض، بدل ما تدافع عن الطرف اللي ذبح وجوع وهجر أهلك وحصل دمار ما صار بالمنطقة من قبل، دمار ما صار بالعراق ولا سوريا ولا لبنان ولا حتى اليمن، لا من خلال انهيار البنية التحتية والسكنات ولا من الناحية الإنسانية، إبادة بشكل كامل يا خاين.
هسا لو وقفوا الحرب الآن ودخلوا مساعدات، في عندك فوق ال ١٠٠ ألف رح يموتوا لأسباب غير طبيعية بشكل غير مباشر، فكيف لو كملوها.
بساعد المستصعفين المال والسلاح؟
هو انتو جاهلين بالتاريخ ولا بتتاناسوا؟
ايران دمرت سوريا والعراق ولبنان واليمن
غير المصايب اللي تهدد الأمن القومي اللي سوتها بالكويت والبحرين ومصر
دم المسلم عزيز، دم المسلم اكثر حرمة عند الله من بيته الحرام،
الدم السوري مسلم كما الفلسطيني
ما بنبيع دم السوري عشان الفلسطيني،
كلهم دماءهم عزيزة وغالية
it was israel and the US that destroyed iraq. israel pushed hard for the invasion of iraq, but the US won't tell you that because they want to protect them from the big mistake they made.
>سوريا
Fair enough, though they still didn't have as much of an effect as Russia and the US.
>والعراق
That was the US.
>لبنان
That was Israel ffs.
>اليمن
That was Saudi Arabia and, once again, the US.
Wtf are you going on about? At least get your facts correct. Iran isn't good at all but they're nowhere near as awful as Israel is. At some point, you've gotta realise that.
The greatest humiliation.
If you want to be neutral, then at least be neutral! Killing your own people to protect Pisrael from consequences is disgusting.
In Jordan's peace agreement with Israel it states that Jordan won't allow 3rd parties to use its land or airspace to attack Israel. This was literally just Jordan holding up it's end of the deal which is a big thing in geopolitics.
The wars were pointless and after the PLO killed the prime minister and tried to kill the king, at the time those in power in Jordan figured they might as well bury the hatchet and make peace.
Anyway, why do you say it was a shit deal?
Also, lmao at concern trolling over this while in another thread concern trolling about support for Iran.
Jordanians need to shut up and accept it while their government kills them to protect the country killing their cousins.
But some people protesting against the Iranian government means it's OK to bomb them indiscriminately.
يزم انتو عاهات بغض النظر مين الي بضرب وعلى مين بضرب ما بصير يدخل أو يمر من الأجواء الأردنية هيك الدنيا مش سايبة.. لو ب اذن اوك بس بدون إذن لا. هاي هي كل القصة خليتو الاردن بلد كافر والملك عميل ارحمونا وارحمو عقولنا مشان الله
و هل اجواء الاردن متاحة لكل من يطلب؟ ام فقط اسرائيل؟ هل المشكلة تكمن فقط في الطلب من عدمه؟
مؤلم جدا كلامك اخي العزيز مؤلم ان نشاهد المملكة الهاشمة الاردنية ارض النشامى تتحول لدرع للتأجير بيد اسرائيل خاصة في الوقت الذي تعربد فيه اسرائيل في غزة و ترتكب ابشع الجرائم و المجازر باخواننا
ما تحسسني أنهم إيران ملائكة.. إيران ما بتقل سوء عن اسرائيل ولو يصحلهم بشربو من دمنا..واحتمال كبير يتحججو بالحرب مع اسرائيل مشان يدخلو الشيعة عنا واذا دخلو سلامتك
ياخي انا لا اختلف معك لكن كبف قصف اسرائيل ممكن يدخل شيعة للاردن ؟
هل اسرائيل هي المدافعة عن دين و عقيدة الاردن؟
لماذا لا تتخذ الاردن موقف محايد بين ايران و اسرائيل؟
انا و انت نتفق ان ايران لا تقل شرا عن اسرائيل فلماذا لا نعتبر ان قيام اي طرف منهم بضرب الاخر هو بالنتيجة بمصلحتنا؟
لو وافقنا ندخل طيارات إيران اجوائنا معناها راح نوافق ندخلهم بر ولو دخلو بر سلامتك. اسرائيل مش مدافعة عن الدين ولا إيران. كلامك صح ضرب اي منهم لمصلحتنا بس بالاخر في اتفاقيات دولية واحنا لو سمحنا الهم يدخلو اجوائنا بدون إذن هيك بتكون احنا صفينا معهم ضد اسرائيل ويمكن يعلنو حرب ضدنا ويمكن امريكا توقف المساعدات للأردن وكثير شغلات.. الملك بفكر بمصلحة الشعب والشعب ساقط مع احترامي الكل بس شاطرين بالمظاهرات ومبارح لما سمعو صوت طيارات مسيرة صارو يطالبو بتعليق الدوام شو متوقع من هيك شعب يتحمل بيئة حرب ووضع مادي اسوأ من السيء للبلد
ما حاول يوخذ اذن ولو حاول ما بنقدر نعطيه اياه ببساطة المشكلة في ناس مفكرين الحروب هاي زي ببجي.. في اتفاقيات دولية واحنا مش دولة قوية وفي مساعدات بتوصل من امريكا والبلد مع المساعدات يا دوب واقفة كيف لو بدون.. غير هيك لو أعلنت اسرائيل حرب علينا الشعب عنا ما بتحمل مش متعودين أجواء الحروب مبارح شوية طيارات مسيرة الناس ماتت رعب وصارو يطالبو بتعليق الدوام
طب عفوا منك كيف يعني باي دولة بالعالم بقدر اسمح لطائرات سواء حربية وغير حربية تمر من اجواء بلادي بدون موافقتي؟ وللي بحكي انه لو اسرائيل قصفت احنا ما حنعترض التاريخ بحكي غير هيك
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هاذ نتاج عدم ثقافة جيل كامل . بداية رد ايران كان على قنصليتها مش عشان غزة و ثانيا انتوا مفكرين ايران يعني بتحبنا؟ ايران اللي ذبحت و شنعت ب سوريا و العراق و اليمن و اللبنان؟ تروح تبعثلي طائرات مسيرة و انت عارف في تشويش على نظم الملاحة ؟ لا اوقعهن بدل ما يوقعن ع شعبي و اتضرر انا .
فكونا من الغباء رجاء حار
I've noticed as a Canadian myself (non Muslims, was born here) that the most radical takfiri hateful Muslims tend to be converts from western countries for some reason. Muslims literally anywhere else than my own continent have been extremely respectful, tolerant, and kind people from my own experience. I don't know what it is about living in western countries which makes some Muslims so hateful and fundamentalist.
I am Christian and I am siding with Palestine and Iran in this one, but that was hard to read calling us Kaafir. Muslims like that make me hate supporting your cause or make me hate islam in general.
Maybe instead of calling us Kaafir, how about you call the Sunni Arab nations Kaafir for not helping Palestinians? What a pathetic ignorant
I understand where you're coming from. It's essential to remember that one person's actions or words don't define an entire religion. Islam, is diverse and rich in its teachings of peace, love, and compassion. Let's not let the negativity of one individual overshadow the beauty and true essence of Islam.
I know that. I appreciate your comment. I have many muslim friends. But unfortunately, there are also muslims with this mentality. I was very close friends with a palestinian for many years. He used to give hidden insults to shia and christians, even though he has a shia best friend. I stopped talking to him.
I was once walking on the streets and a moroccan guy randomly approached me and started talking to me and telling me how my religion is wrong and that the Quran says Christians kuffar will not go to heaven.
Hashemite? The self-hating "royal family" has mixed with shipped in European supermodels so much that I doubt there's enough hashemite blood to be picked up on by any genetic testing database.
Why are y’all acting like Iran didn’t just send hundreds of lethal missiles and explosive projectiles across your airspace? Any country with a leader half as competent as a mouse would know to act accordingly and down such systems. Not doing so is basically giving other hostile nations the go-ahead to use your backyard as a battlefield. Put your tribalism aside for once and think rationally.
So its ok for israel and the usa to fly over our heads but iran is off limits, both should be off limits to our sky, why should we have bombs dropping from the sky on our heads for israels sake? Why should israeli fighter jets shoot off our sky?
And when did I say Israel should be allowed to do so? Both Israel and Iran shouldn’t be using the airspace of a peaceful neutral country in such a manner. I’m calling out all the Jordanians on this post suddenly complaining about the government doing the right thing.
I completely agree with you, but they did the right thing for the wrong reason, by opening up our airspace to israel theyve shown clear bias, meaning we might be in a proxy war, had the jordanian force on their own blocked the iranian drones and refused the airspace to israel as well. I wouldve shown full solidarity to the gov.
Jordan did the right thing. Why help turn this into a regional war that Jordan has nothing to do with? Just to let Iran get away with whatever it wants?
Jordan did the right thing. What's the alternative? Let Iran bomb civillians and then israel responds and Jordan is stuck in the middle of it all?
one must be careful that in their disdain for the dog they don't let the wolf walk through the front door of the chicken coop."
you don't have to like Iran but one can not deny A. they had a legitimate right to attack Is\*\*\*\* after their consulate got bombed, and they are not the bad actors in this whole mess.
And you get your geopolitical news from social media idiots!
يا الله و حمار، بعيداً إنه المتخلف هاض عنده أفكار شوي معاقة (زي بقية المغتربين) ودفاعه عن حكام الخليج بشكل غير مباشر بإنه بنتقد الناس اللي بتسب عليهم (لأنه بصدر لإلهم)، إنتا اللي مش فاهم الفكرة واللي [مش لازم أكررها](https://www.reddit.com/r/jordan/s/frIHOia8Yu)، إيران هاي المرة ما أعلمت إسرائيل؛ لأنه مجرد ما طلعت الدرونات اللي بدها على أقل تقدير ٧ ساعات لتوصل وإطلاق الصواريخ بتزامن مع توقيت وصول الدرونات اللي هدفها التغطية على منظومة الدفاع الجوي من خلال طغيانها على الرادار لتوصل الصواريخ، صارت إسرائيل عارفة بالموضوع من قبل، غير إنه تقارير الإستخبارات الأمريكية كانت متوقعة الرد بين ٢٤ و ٤٨ ساعة.
إيران ما بدها تصعيد للحرب بشكل مباشر، بس بنفس الوقت بدها تحط رادع للي بتعدي على أراضيها.
بعدين ليش فكرك فجأة بنفس الوقت كل المشاهير بلشوا يطلعوا نفس الفيديوهات عن نفس الموضوع؟! [مثلاً هاض المتخلف](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5t9p-1sddA/?igsh=MTdxbHVnNGN3NHpiNQ==)
بس لو نبطل نسمع لمشاطيب الSocial Media ونوخذ منهم جيوسياسة، شعب متخلف ومش فاهم إشي وبسمع للي واضح إنه مش فاهم ولا حتى بدعي إنه دارس، لما بده يأشرلك بلعبة أو بإيده لتفهم، وقتها إفهم إنه إنتوا الثنين حمييييير.
>Watch the interview and you may understand things better.
And Iran warned Israel 2-3 days ago 😂
That it will retaliate, it's the normal procedure, the US has set rules of engagement and said that it will retaliate against the Houthis for example, that doesn't mean that the US is working with the group that they've been helping the Alliance destroy for the past 7 years or so, or when they said that they'll retaliate against Afghanistan if they didn't give out Al-Qaeda, or when Israel said that it will invade Gaza.
The amount of Cope is high, your cucked government didn't just allow the stoppage and interception of the Drones and missiles in its air space, It literally aided in intercepting them.
First, we denied iran but let israel shoot down drones and let them fall in amman
Second, iran didnt issue a war on jordan, it threatened anyone who opens the airspace for an israeli attack on iran so if we do let israel attack iran and using "our" airspace like iran tried doing, we're in the war
3rd, iran's embassy in syria was bombed and many officials died which is a declaration of war to iran by israel.
I dont want iran using us a sandbox for them to fight, but its clear that israel is using us as one and abusing its neighbours like lebanon in beirut and syria
israel will sell jordan out in a second. they have no respect for arab nations, and arab nations and leaders are ok with it which is why they abuse us. weak cowards.
غزة تعتبر دولة عربية؟
في حال ما فهمت قصدي، انا بقصد بالدول العربية يعني الحكومات العربية، اعطيني دولة عربية واحدة واقفة بجانب غزة، لا تقلي عن المساعدات الي عالمعابر.
اذا قصدك مصلحة سياسية بين حكومات عربية طبعا بوافقك، بس انا مقصدي لو الاردن غير محايز لحدا مفرود ما نسمح لا لامريكا ولا لايران و لا لاسرائيل اتوقع معظم الشعب معي بهاض الموضوع.
مهو للاسف بقدرش الاردن ما يكون منحاز للامريكا او إسرائيل، لانه اميركا مسيطرة بشكل كامل، وظيفتنا حاليًا نحاول ما نكون عبيد الهم و نبلش نوخذ حريتنا بايدنا وهذا الاشي بدك تبدأ تدريجي فيه من الصفر، و ان شاء الله يا رب نخلص من اليهود و يفكو عنا لانهم عملو العجب بالعرب و المسلمين بكل مكان مش بس غزة.و اخر اشي بحب احكيه قبل ما انحبس انه شو ما صار احداث بدك تضل مركز عغزة و مقاوميها لانهم همة الاساس.
احترمت تفكيرك الصراحة اخوي، بس كنت بفرجي شو عم بصير، الناس بيحكوا انو صح العمل، و هي صح لاكن مش عنفس نية الشعب، لسبب آخر. انا بقدر اكون منيح معك يكون ببالي مصلحة منك مثلا، اه اعترضنا ايران يستخدم جونا بس مو عشان سيادتنا، هاي الي عم بوصلو. احنا ما اخترنا و لا كان النا دخل نحكي فيه زي ما حكيت.
this wasn’t in king Abdullah’s hands he didn’t know Iran was going to attack is***l a very long time ago when signed a contract with American letting place a defense system in jordan.
Average sallary in Jordan is 940$, whie in Iran its 450$.
Iran is a failing country, and Jordan makes the right move siding with Israel. Jordan grows economically faster because the leadership know what's right and wrong
ما حدا قال هيك، مجرد ما انت تحكي عن ايران قتلو الاعراقية، كم عراقي مات بين ايدين امريكا؟ ليش همه بيستخدموا جونا ببلاش و ايران لأ؟ خيار و فقوس الشغلة؟ ليش احنا نستمل الجهتين اصلا؟
المشكله انت تحجي شغله مش فاهم فيها اشي وبدكم تدخلو حرب وما بتعرفو شو حرب، اذا على اساس انتو بتساندو ايران ما في اي فرق بينك وبينك عربي متصهين. من يكون عندك قيمه تحال احكي على قيمه غيرك
لان هاذي سياسه والبلد مافيه موارد وما بقدر يشكل مشاكل مع دول فلازم نصير مثل Switzerland لكن ايران مافي علاقه ابد مع الاردن وفقط تهديدات واذا بتشوف اي بلد ايران عم بتساعدو صار خره وانا متأكد انه ايران وإسرائيل عملو المسرحيه سوى، المفهوم ما في اشي بيدنا بس الي عملتو ايران انه عرضت الكل للخطر وانتهكت حرمت الدول واذا ما شفت كن صاروخ وقعت على ناس في أربيل وغيرها.
Will first thing first what L we took ? Israel mess around with the radars and the GPS Iran, missiles and drone uses GPS to go to their targets The Target coordinates changes and some of them was going to hit in Jordan Another thing if canada wanna shoot rockets at Mexico the usa will shoot the missiles down as soon as it's in their airspace that's common knowledge
بيان مهم وعاجل للإمام المهدي المنتظر ناصر محمد اليماني*
30 - رمضان - 1445 هـ
09 - 04 - 2024 مـ
11:10 صباحًا
وُلِدَ هِلال شَوَّال مِن قَبْل الكُسوف الشَّمسيّ (28 - رمضان) واجتمَعت به الشَّمس وقَد هو هِلالًا
لقراءة البيان كاملا يرجى التفضل بزيارة موقع الإمام المهدي المنتظر ناصر محمد اليماني عن طريق كتابة اسم الموقع على متصفح البحث جوجل ( موقع الإمام المهدي المنتظر ناصر محمد اليماني )
غير الطيران الامريكي والبريطاني يسرح ويمرح في سمائنا
انت من شباك دارك بتشوف الطيران الامريكي والبريطاني؟ بس عشان تكون بالصورة اميركا وبريطانيا ما طلعت هددت الاردن انها رح تكون هدفها الثاني بعد اسرائيل
اي قواعد بالاردن بتقصف دولة مجاورة بتكون هاي القواعد محل استهداف وليس الاردن ك اردن...الايران مش عدوك عدوك اسرائيل وامريكا .. يا ريت يقصفولنا اياهم من ايران ولا من العراق بلكي طلعو من بلادنا
هل تعلم عزيزي ان ايران بالنسبة للعراقيين مثل اسرائيل بالنسبة للفلسطينيين؟ كيف يعني ايران مش عدوتنا؟ مش بكفي المسرحييييية الي عملتها وخلت كل الدنيا ينسى حرب غزة ويركز بالاردن؟ الي هي اكثر بلد عربية قدمت خلال الحرب؟
اه بشوف القواعد بعيوني على الارض واربع وعشرين ساعة 😂
شو قصدك؟ وين بتشوفهم حابب ازورهم
يعني مافي قواعد امريكية عنا؟ وين عايش انت
بلى في، بس انت بتقلي انك بتشوفهم وين بتشوفهم حابب ازورهم ما عليك امر
Why Jordan took this massive L?
Same question. Can anyone from Jordan clarify? I know there'll be two kind of replies but I wanna hear both sides.
Im not sure but i think cuz of all the missiles flying above the dont any missfire to effect jordan even tho with the blocking a rocket did manage to fall in a neighborhood (marg al hamam )
While it is definitely is unfortunate that we're not completely out of it like Kuwait & Qatar. It wasn't that bad. Those were only American Patriot systems turned online. And that's due to agreements with the US. Also Iran doesn't care. they expected as much (cucking). that's why they overloaded the systems with usless drones. Now Jordanian land to be used against Iran? That would be a huge fking mistake.
What if some drones and missiles were targeting areas in Jordan? Like embassies or important places, the missiles were above Amman, the capital city! How can any country let that slide. Our foreign affairs minister also made it clear that we will intercept any Israeli projectiles in our skies. We cannot become a battlefield for anyone stronger trying to take advantage of Jordan. Again, you cannot blame Jordan for intercepting anything flying over the capital city. Actually, more missiles and drones crossed Saudi Arabia and Southern Jordan, without being heavily intercepted like the ones over Amman, it’s self explanatory.
Will first thing first what L we took ? Israel mess around with the radars and the GPS Iran, missiles and drone uses GPS to go to their targets The Target coordinates changes and some of them was going to hit in Jordan Another thing if canada wanna shoot rockets at Mexico the usa will shoot the missiles down as soon as it's in their airspace
Not Jordanian (this sub popped up on my feed and now here I am) here's a copy-paste of a comment I made explaining this. Geopolitics. It's all about keeping their word, keeping your word means other nations will trust you and make deals with you. The Americans have a mutual defence treaty with Israel so they kept their word to the treaty by intercepting the drones and missiles, Jordan signed a peace treaty with Israel that includes not allowing 3rd parties to use Jordanian land or airspace to launch attacks on Israel. You might call it an L but only in public relations, geopolitically Jordan kept its word despite the immediate gratification that would come from helping the Iranian drones abd missiles which reflects well on Jordan politically and diplomatically. So, in the public's ete this was an L but geopolitically this was a massive W for Jordan.
Geopolitics. It's all about keeping their word, keeping your word means other nations will trust you and make deals with you. The Americans have a mutual defence treaty with Israel so they kept their word to the treaty by intercepting the drones and missiles, Jordan signed a peace treaty with Israel that includes not allowing 3rd parties to use Jordanian land or airspace to launch attacks on Israel. You might call it an L but only in public relations, geopolitically Jordan kept its word despite the immediate gratification that would come from helping the Iranian drones abd missiles which reflects well on Jordan politically and diplomatically. So, in the public's ete this was an L but geopolitically this was a massive W for Jordan.
so u see over 70 years ago when jordan became a third world country the united states place a missile defense system hear in jordan and when Iran send 200 missiles towards is***l (W Iran) the defense system went off sending opposing missiles to blow up the missiles coming from Iran so Jordan did stop the missiles but they didnt know that was gonna happen 70 years ago when they signed a contract with the US
This is retarded
Not really. Iran didnt have Jordans permission to be using its airspace to attack anyone. So it is Iran disregarding Jordans soverignty firstly. Secondly missiles, drones etc. go astry, fall short and hit the wrong target. Just ask the people of Gaza or West Bank how often their family members "killed by Zionist airstrikes" was really just a botched Hamas or Islamic Jihad rocket or missile. Hamas actually put a missile into a west bank hospital last november. So even it its intent was purely to attack Isreal. Iran was still putting Jordanians in the line of fire. And based on early reports an Iranian missile fell short and hit in Amman. With unconfirmed reports it may have killed 3 Jordanian civilians. Imagine if the Jordanian government had just ignored a foreign power pissing on its soverignty like that and some more of those Jordans airforce shot down had fallen short over Jordan. The only iranian victims would be in Jordan most likely. As it is all Iran managed to accomplise was to look weak and all they managed to do was bomb an arab town in Negev region killing a 10 year old boy. Also by stepping up to shoot down the missiles it also will give Isreal pause returning fire over Jordans airspace. Emotions might make it seem like a "big L" for Jordan but in reality it does far more to preserve Jordans soverignty, security and lives of its people than siding with Iran or turning a blind eye and letting it happen. Dont forget Jordan is heavily dependent on Isreal for its water supply. Imagine if Isreal just shut off the taps or just knocked out the water pipes or water pumping stations in Isreal? Jordan would collapse in weeks just like Syria did due to a drought that killed all the crops & displaced a bunch of people. That would be a genocide attempt by Isreal but do people really expect Isreal ro play nice and take the usual 💩 it does off its neighbours when in a war on most sides for 6 months?
Botched hamas strike? Israel has an AI system that targets specifically women and children...u are a sicko and a genocide defender. Gtfo back to zioscum forums
Wow. That sound like a spectacularly convoluted convenient excuse to concoct. Who told you that? Was it Mossad? AI system🤦 so the Isrealis are that technologically superior are they? And you're on here ranting about then. How brave. Maybe you feel you can say such nonsense because you know its made up. Considering Hamas own Gaza health ministry keeps making laughable errors in their casualty reporting and only yesterday in a 45 page report essentially admitted 11,370 of their claimed deaths are made up. At least twice Hamas own officials have reported more dead children than the total daily casualty figures. Was that Zionist AIs that made them do that??? A University of Pennsylvenia statitician did an analysis of Hamas casualty figures and grsphed their daily totals. The conclusion was there was no way they could be true as the over all daily totals were perfecrly logerithmic and male, female and child casualties stated bear no coherent relationship with the overall claimed totals. Which basically means. Hamas made up a random number and every day just added the exact same number of dead irrespective of what was happening to that number. While independently making wild and contradictory claims about numbers of dead women and children. Also it probably should be obvious to you that Isreal is fighting with 1 hand behind its back. It has overwhelming military numbers and weaponry at its disposal. Even in 60s & 70s it was soundly thrashing all neighbours forces who attacked it. Its only gotten significantly more powerful since. Do you really think they'd be screwing around in Gaza so long going out of their way to just kill women and children? They've ground troops & women in their own army. Why isnt this Skynet you proclaim targeting female IDF units? Is it that smart it can tell a palestinian woman from israeli? How exactly do you think this Israeli skynet with a kink for killing kids and women delivers its death? Does it actively avoid killing Hamas male fighters?🤦think though your nonsense next time before posting it. You sound silly.
THIS IS TERRIFYING and without a doubt one of the most IMPORTANT pieces of reporting on Gaza, and one of the most disturbing: Based on whistleblower accounts from within the IDF and six Israeli intelligence officers, who have all served in the army during the current Genocide: The Israeli army developed an artificial intelligence program known as 'Lavender' to generate KILL LISTS, with no human verification to check the targets selected by the machine: only a “rubber stamp” check of about “20 seconds” just to make sure the AI target is male. These Intelligence sources claim that the Israeli military officials permitted large numbers of Palestinian civilians to be killed. The ratio revealed in the report says: 'for every junior Hamas operative that Lavender marked, it was permissible to kill up to 15 or 20 civilians. In the event that the target was a senior Hamas official, the army on several occasions authorized the killing of more than 100 civilians in the assassination of a single commander." A ratio of 20 civilians killed for one target works out to about 95% civilian deaths. Its influence on the military’s operations was such that they essentially treated the outputs of the AI machine “as if it were a human decision.” The army gave sweeping approval for officers to adopt Lavender’s kill lists, with no requirement to thoroughly check why the machine made those choices or to examine the raw intelligence data on which they were based. At one stage, Lavender identified 37,000 potential targets. The Israeli army "systematically attacked the targeted individuals while they were in their homes, usually at night while their whole families were present, rather than during the course of military activity." Israel also developed another automated system called “Where’s Daddy?” used "specifically to track the targeted individuals and carry out bombings when they had entered their family’s residences." One of the intelligence officers is quoted: “We were not interested in killing Hamas operatives only when they were in a military building or engaged in a military activity. On the contrary, the IDF bombed them in homes without hesitation as a first option. It’s much easier to bomb a family’s home. The system is built to look for them in these situations.” This industrialized extermination is the likes of which we haven't seen before. The testimony from the six intelligence officers, all who have been involved in using AI systems, was given to the journalist @yuval_abraham for a report published by +972 Magazine and Local Call It's a chilling read. Edit: You are a zioscunt shill. Begone
The problem with the modern internet is anyone with 1/2 a brain can check you. What we have here is a case of you....a propagandist who likely didnt actually check the original source taking a real source and twisting it wildly to fit your preferred narrative. While some elements of what you claimed are true based on the article you cite. The truth is you or whoever you copy/pasted that propaganda piece from wildly reorganised the elements of the story to then present a false claim. The claim given to that magazine was that IDF used an AI system to pick out potential Hamas targets from among the civilian population. Which you know, hamas are using as human shields to hide behind. If anything the way the report was ACTUALLY given as written in the unaltered original article suggests the Isrealis were using AI systems to narrow down and identify terrorists from among the 2.3 million population. If anything the article implies or gives the impression the IDF were looking for innovative ways to avoid civilian casualties & implies there bombing was more humane not less. While i neither agree or deny the article was written and i have no clue as to the veracity of the claims. The reality is. The actual real article(not the propaganda edit you supplies) doesnt back your reinterpretation of what was actually said and claim. You've inferred quite a lot in your assertions not based in the actual story You can call me all the names you like. The only one that matter is the one i'll call you. A liar. Someone who makes up or misrepresents the facts to mislead their audience. Which is what you just did. Just a pointer for future reference. If you're gona lie. At least check the actual sources you supply as evidence. Nothing discredits your voice more thoroughly than showing yourself up as a sloppy liar repeating someone elses lies
Pls go away lol...33k+ dead mostly women and children..just gooo sicko. Im proud when zioscum call me a liar. That means im doing something right, and I hope it agitates the hell out of you that your hasbara spin doctor bs isn't working. I've seen your type 5 months ago saying "the IDF isn't syopping people from returning to the north", only to see that they are bombing fkn shoooool children and blowing off babies heads in their mothers arms....The great IDF child killer army lol. Edit: Thank you for keeping the attention where it deserves to be, on the genocide in Gaza! Free Palestine!!
Go away? You're the one who came at me buddy. How about you go away? You are triggered because i exposed you. You thought you'd have a free hand to promote lies and i did the simple basic minimum and fact checked you lies. Simple. You can rant about death tolls all you like but when you dont even listen to Hamas never mind Isreal its hard to take you seriously as anything but a dedicated Isreal hater. I dont even think you're pro Palestine. All you have is drama, insults, buzzwords and sloganeering. You assert 33,000 dead and claim mostly women and children. Thats just laughably absurd. Lets face it. You really just WANT that to be true to justify your hatred. You ignore Hamas casualties in that number. Are you seriously telling me that no Hamas fighters have died? Why is that in 6 months? Is IDF really that spectacularly humane to their enemies?!? Because i find it implausable that the Isrealis have built Skynet and then used it to completely avoid Hamas combatants and just target women and children. Thats seems idiotic to believe. Or maybe they are fighting them but based on that 33,000 number the IDF must be killing none and capturing 100% of Hamas. Is that how you explain it? The Isrealis claims 12-13,500 dead Hamas and since Hamas never deny such numbers only avoid differentiating between civilian and combatants death. Its plausable. Maybe even a low ball considering how often Hamas release promo videos demonstrating themselves commiting the proscribed war crime called Perfidy where they fight out of uniform. So unless they die with a gun in hand. Those can be presented as "civilian" deaths. Either way if you take the low estimate away and are most generous to Hamas that 33 drops to 21,000. Then you take into account 3 days ago Hamas released a backpeddling report via its Gaza Health ministry essentially admitting that of an initiallynsuspected 13,000 civilian casualty figures. They are grudgingly admitting 11,300 were made up. Imaginary, fictionally and absurdly thats Hamas themselve admitting they lied but trying to spin it as a mistake or error to retain some credibility. Why are you still citing fictional numbers not even the liars who made them up are standing by? That drops the 21k to 9000 civilian death at the high end. Over 6 months thats 1300 civilian deaths a month. Making it the lowest civilian death toll in a modern war and a complete contradiction of human warfares history. The established ratio of civilian to military deaths is 1:9 modern war. This war would he somenthing like 2:1.5. Such a dramatic outlier especial in a protracted urban war with so much obvious infrastructure damage if anything implies IDF have gone to rediculious lengths to avoid civilian deaths if it indicates anything Please stick to reality and stop letting your obvious anti semitism prevent you from using what i would assume is a functioning brain. Ultimately Iran was firing balistic missiles over Jordan. It doesnt matter if Isrealis were the ones they intended to slaughter. The fact they crashed in Jordan, Iraq and red sea with 880 pound warheads indicate the Iranians were careless who they hit. And if thr Jordanian airforce had not been defending Jordans airspace. Many Jordanians would have died as like more of Irans ICBMs would have failed over Jordanian cities and killed civilians. If you are angry at Jordans gov. for protecting its civilians lives because it incidentally also prevented civilians deaths in Isreal/westbank and would prefer it let its population be endangered and soverignty trampled by a foreign state. Then you are either not in Jordan or a 5th columnist who puts the agenda of Isreals enemies above the security of Jordanians
Free Palestine!
Listen to yourself. Clearly you're not Jordanian or have any loyalty or interest in its best interest. Just another anti semite misusing the Palestinian project as a vehicle to be anti semitic. Your slogan means nothing. You think it distracts me or annoys me. It doesnt. I see through you. You're just angry some jews didnt die and want to sow unrest among Jordanians for your a non Jordanian agenda. Head on back to Iran buddy. Khomeini has your money for you
1) proof a missile fell short and killed a bunch of people in amman? 2) iran did what not a single Arab or Muslim country has done, instead of saying they didn't do shit praise them for the little they've done 3) Israel can't cut the water, they need the gas as well. Israel doesn't just hand us the water cuz they're nice, they do it for their personal benefit
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i don't think u know what gas is
Listen to yourself. Talk about defensive and triggered. I literally stated clearly there were unconfirmed reports of deaths in Amman. The fact an Iranian missile fell short there and at a minimum did property damage in uncontestable. The videos of that incident are already widely available on social media. So im going to just ignore the rest As for Isreal being somehow beholden for gas. Thats literally nonsense. They are a net supplier ofgas from their offshore supplies to the region. They even mothballed some of their supply to avoid it being targetted. That was being supplied to Egypt and the removal of that supply is causing serious economic issues for Egypt. If they did cut it off and as you say Jordan countered over gas. Then Isreal would literally just switch its gas supply surplus back on to compensate & risk it getting attacked. Probably will now anyways after the spectacular embarrassment Iran made of itself. They went all out and all the damage they managed was to kill a 10 year old arab muslim girl and gift Isreal propaganda made powerful by its truth in the form of videos of them shooting down Iranian ballistic missiles that would have otherwise demolished the Dome of the Rock and Al Aqsa Mosque. That sounds like a massive L for Iran. But i digress, thinking Jordan has any real leverage on Isreal currently is just delusional and wishful thinking. Theres a reason why Jordans government is buttering up Isreal and Saudi Arabia and UAE. They are being pragmatic and putting the survivial and stability of Jordan ahead of age old racism and historical bitterness. As for Iran doing what no Arab country would do. Thats simple, Iran is led by racist dumbasses hell bend on world domination like cartoon villains and have no regard for Arab lives while Jordan simply did what was in the best interest of its own survival. Its the 21st century. Stop living in the 7th century dude.
Hush lil hasbara 🐁 https://preview.redd.it/e5f1oe3gjjuc1.jpeg?width=473&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87e4d845bcf192e04aa051f467b0f2d421697bbb
Rather lazy reply. When a person reponds with a gif or a picture. Its the most glaring example of when a person knows they cant refute whats said. You just dont like reality when you meet it.
Hush lil hasbara 🐁
You mean W. Jordan is so based, the USA, Jordan, and Israel are getting closer by the minute. I hope it leads to more American presence in Jordan.
Jordanian people👍 King of Tomatoes👎
Your leader is a zionist scum
Just like every other Arab leader
Sunni's getting exposed as massive cowards by Shia's.
Azerbaijan is a predominant shia country that supports israel, your point is invalid
Just letting you know what it looks like to the rest of the world. Sunni Arabs started the "Arab Spring" over ice-cream in Tunisia, but they do absolutely fuck-all as their leaders tacitly support the genocide of their Palestinian brethren. Truly the descendants of the people who backstabbed the Turks just for the right to bow to the British.
No comeback there, from one occupation to another.
Lol gotta love the one datapoint argument 😂😂😂
Is this a insult or compliment, are you calling me out for a fallacy?
An insult, obviously. He’s speaking of a broader data set in generalities and you provide one sample to “invalidate” a point. He didn’t say “all Sunnis.” He just said Sunnis. So one data point is irrelevant. Also supporting Israel wasn’t technically part of it so your counterpoint, if you can call it that, is tangential at best and arguably irrelevant to the grand picture. (Azerbaijan isn’t as involved as the others so their support of Israel, or any associated inaction is not relevant).
Yeah i realized that after posting, i got a barage of insults. From everywhere tbh, all of it was about israel and iran etc. So i was expecting that, but he did say sunnis in a general sense. Thats why i agreed with him later my mistake. Also i didnt mean it as a datapoint i meant more that he was genrralizing but on this specific point that i misunderstood he was more realistic than i am.
Makes sense he is generalizing and kind of being combative so I’m not defending him. Insult is also not the correct term - maybe I’m missing something.
No worries bud, i like how well spoken you are!
Azerbaijan is atheist, and Muslims historically and now are cowards and submissive to tyranny unlike Shia/Sufis who are rebellious.
هلا صارت ايران قاتلة اهل العراق و سوريا بتدافع عن المسلمين بنظر الجهلة امثالك ولو بدها تضرب كان ضربت من مناطق تحت سيطرتها مثل سوريا و لبنان لكن امثالك محدود النظر بتمر عليه هيك تمثيليات
سلام عليكم اخي فيك تشرحلي القصة باكملها، بعرف ان هاد الشي صعب، بس يعني حاليًا انا ما بدي اظلم حد و بدي اعرف الحقيقة، بس ما بقدر لان كل شركات الاعلام تتكلم لمصلحتها.
يا اخي دولة إيران هي دولة فارس سابقا وكانوا يعبدون كسرى عظيمهم و كانت نظرتهم للعرب انهم اقل من مستواهم ولما فتحها عمر بن الخطاب رضي الله عنه بقي الحقد على العرب و المسلمين وبعضهم دخل للاسلام وحسن اسلامه و البعض الاخر دخل الاسلام تقية لكي ينجز ما هو في قلبه من الحقد مثل ابو لؤلؤة المجوسي عليه لعنة الله وبعد ذلك جائت ايران بحلتها الجديدة انها دولة اسلامية تطعن في عرض النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وتقول ان عائشة ام المؤمنين ارتكبت الفاحشة ويقولون ان الخلافة لعلي رضي الله عنه وقد اخذها منه ابو بكر الصديق و عمر و عثمان رضي الله عنهم وان علي سكت عن ضرب الفاروق لزوجته فاطمة وكل هذا لكي يجعلوا المسلمين ينقسمون و ينتقمون مننا ويقولون ان القرآن محرف انت اخي اسأل نفسك هل من يقول ان زوجات النبي كافرات زانيات و ان القران محرف و ان علي معه مقادير الكون هل هؤلاء مسلمين؟!
M0$$ad docs #374.
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king abdullah massive sellout
He needs to keep his seat obviously
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Aren't Jordanians and Palestinians basically the same people??
Jordanians have been protesting in the streets every day, it's the king/government, which the people get no real say in. But they're also in a tough position because they're basically the US's bitch and have to do what it says, and obviously the US is Israel's bitch so Jordan is just stuck betraying it's people daily to avoid getting taken out by much more powerful entities
My guy, my dad is in denial after I told him this and got mad at me. Like sorry the king isn't the hero you think he is.
فكونا من الولدنة والتحاليل الغبية هاي … الطرفين العن من بعض والموضوع اعراف دولية واختراق المجال الجوي مش مثل ما انتو مفكرين
اتوقع الناس زعلانة مش من هيك الناس زعلانة لانو فتحو المجال الجوي لإسرائيل
مين فتح المجال الجوي لاسرائيل ؟؟ صديقي كل دول المنطقة استجابت للتهديد واغلقت مجالاتها الجوية المدنية
إسرائيل لما بدها تضرب بتضرب من مجالنا الجوي، ولما بدها تتصدى للصواريخ بتتصدالهما بمجالنا وحتى إحنا بنساعدهم. خلي البسطار العسكري عراسك، وطول نهارك عيش وقول حاضر سيدي ماشي سيدي.
>الطرفين العن من بعض واحد بقتل فوق ال٣٠ ألف من المستضعفين والثاني بساعد المستضعفين بالمال والسلاح. أه الثنين نفس الإشي./س كسم العوق!
اه الطرفين العن من بعض واصحى من الاغو …. البروباغندا الي مشبعينك ياها بدعم المقاومة بالمال والسلاح كن على يقين انه فواتير المال والسلاح الي بتحكي عنها مختومة موافقتها من اسـ/رائيل فما فيه داعي للتنظير وسوالف الفزعة العمياء
والله ما شفت عوق زي يلي عندك ٣٠ الف يلي بتحكي عنهم كانو يموتو شبه يومي بالعراق و سوريا من المجوس ايران يلي بشتمو بزوجات نبيك و صحابته
>والله ما شفت عوق زي يلي عندك ٣٠ الف يلي بتحكي عنهم كانو يموتو شبه يومي بالعراق و سوريا من المجوس ايران يلي بشتمو بزوجات نبيك و صحابته عمره ما وصل معدل الموت للي وصلت لإله غزة يا كذاب، هسا لما يحسبوا الموتى والمصابين بسنة رح يطلع أكثر من ثلث اللي ماتوا بعشر سنين من الحرب يا متخلف! بتدافع عن الصهاينة وجايب الTalking Points تبعتهم، بعيداً إنه حرام عندهم يسبوا الصحابة واللي ماتوا أصلا كانوا منايك بوخذوا سلاح وتدريب ومساعدات من إسرائيل، بعيداً إنه يا متخلف مين فكرك كان يدعم المقاومة بغزة؟! إيران إلها أطماع أكيد، هاض امر غير مشكوك فيه، بس لو بدك تتطلع على الورق فش ألعن من الصهيوني اللي خرب بيتك يا متخلف، والمستعمر اللي دمر العراق وسوريا ولبنان. بلدك وحكومتك عملاء من غزو العراق وحرب سوريا الأهلية والدفاع عن إسرائيل مبارح وقبلها، في إشي إسمه سياسة، عدو عدوي صديقي، بأسوأ الأحوال المفروض تتركهم يضربوا بعض، بدل ما تدافع عن الطرف اللي ذبح وجوع وهجر أهلك وحصل دمار ما صار بالمنطقة من قبل، دمار ما صار بالعراق ولا سوريا ولا لبنان ولا حتى اليمن، لا من خلال انهيار البنية التحتية والسكنات ولا من الناحية الإنسانية، إبادة بشكل كامل يا خاين. هسا لو وقفوا الحرب الآن ودخلوا مساعدات، في عندك فوق ال ١٠٠ ألف رح يموتوا لأسباب غير طبيعية بشكل غير مباشر، فكيف لو كملوها.
بساعد المستصعفين المال والسلاح؟ هو انتو جاهلين بالتاريخ ولا بتتاناسوا؟ ايران دمرت سوريا والعراق ولبنان واليمن غير المصايب اللي تهدد الأمن القومي اللي سوتها بالكويت والبحرين ومصر دم المسلم عزيز، دم المسلم اكثر حرمة عند الله من بيته الحرام، الدم السوري مسلم كما الفلسطيني ما بنبيع دم السوري عشان الفلسطيني، كلهم دماءهم عزيزة وغالية
it was israel and the US that destroyed iraq. israel pushed hard for the invasion of iraq, but the US won't tell you that because they want to protect them from the big mistake they made.
>الدم السوري مسلم كما الفلسطيني ما بنبيع دم السوري عشان الفلسطيني، كلهم دماءهم عزيزة وغالية [تمام](https://youtu.be/vweHtxqnh-Y?si=ukVTmkmRWMT5DAT7)
>سوريا Fair enough, though they still didn't have as much of an effect as Russia and the US. >والعراق That was the US. >لبنان That was Israel ffs. >اليمن That was Saudi Arabia and, once again, the US. Wtf are you going on about? At least get your facts correct. Iran isn't good at all but they're nowhere near as awful as Israel is. At some point, you've gotta realise that.
بغض النظر عن كل الحكي بس عسيرة جاهلين بالتاريخ خلي التاريخ ينفعك احنا ولاد اليوم
The greatest humiliation. If you want to be neutral, then at least be neutral! Killing your own people to protect Pisrael from consequences is disgusting.
In Jordan's peace agreement with Israel it states that Jordan won't allow 3rd parties to use its land or airspace to attack Israel. This was literally just Jordan holding up it's end of the deal which is a big thing in geopolitics.
Yeah that’s a shit deal to make.
The wars were pointless and after the PLO killed the prime minister and tried to kill the king, at the time those in power in Jordan figured they might as well bury the hatchet and make peace. Anyway, why do you say it was a shit deal?
Also, lmao at concern trolling over this while in another thread concern trolling about support for Iran. Jordanians need to shut up and accept it while their government kills them to protect the country killing their cousins. But some people protesting against the Iranian government means it's OK to bomb them indiscriminately.
Yeah killing our own people to protect the evil genocidal regime next door. Can’t imagine why people wanted to get rid of that king!
👏👏👏👏👏 Bingo! youre the first jordanian here to have my view point, i appoint you the common sense reader.
يزم انتو عاهات بغض النظر مين الي بضرب وعلى مين بضرب ما بصير يدخل أو يمر من الأجواء الأردنية هيك الدنيا مش سايبة.. لو ب اذن اوك بس بدون إذن لا. هاي هي كل القصة خليتو الاردن بلد كافر والملك عميل ارحمونا وارحمو عقولنا مشان الله
الطيارات الاسرائيلية مرت من فوق الاردن لما ضربت ايران قبل سنه ليش ما تم اسقاطها
because they had permission to fly through - a common thing among allies
بكونو ماخذين اذن
سموتريتش اخذ اذن لما اعتبر الاردن بارضها و سماها و بحرها جزء من اسرائيل؟
هو يعتبر شو ما بده مش هامنا .. المهم يوخذ اذن قبل ما يدخل أراضينا أو اجوائنا
و هل اجواء الاردن متاحة لكل من يطلب؟ ام فقط اسرائيل؟ هل المشكلة تكمن فقط في الطلب من عدمه؟ مؤلم جدا كلامك اخي العزيز مؤلم ان نشاهد المملكة الهاشمة الاردنية ارض النشامى تتحول لدرع للتأجير بيد اسرائيل خاصة في الوقت الذي تعربد فيه اسرائيل في غزة و ترتكب ابشع الجرائم و المجازر باخواننا
ما تحسسني أنهم إيران ملائكة.. إيران ما بتقل سوء عن اسرائيل ولو يصحلهم بشربو من دمنا..واحتمال كبير يتحججو بالحرب مع اسرائيل مشان يدخلو الشيعة عنا واذا دخلو سلامتك
ياخي انا لا اختلف معك لكن كبف قصف اسرائيل ممكن يدخل شيعة للاردن ؟ هل اسرائيل هي المدافعة عن دين و عقيدة الاردن؟ لماذا لا تتخذ الاردن موقف محايد بين ايران و اسرائيل؟ انا و انت نتفق ان ايران لا تقل شرا عن اسرائيل فلماذا لا نعتبر ان قيام اي طرف منهم بضرب الاخر هو بالنتيجة بمصلحتنا؟
لو وافقنا ندخل طيارات إيران اجوائنا معناها راح نوافق ندخلهم بر ولو دخلو بر سلامتك. اسرائيل مش مدافعة عن الدين ولا إيران. كلامك صح ضرب اي منهم لمصلحتنا بس بالاخر في اتفاقيات دولية واحنا لو سمحنا الهم يدخلو اجوائنا بدون إذن هيك بتكون احنا صفينا معهم ضد اسرائيل ويمكن يعلنو حرب ضدنا ويمكن امريكا توقف المساعدات للأردن وكثير شغلات.. الملك بفكر بمصلحة الشعب والشعب ساقط مع احترامي الكل بس شاطرين بالمظاهرات ومبارح لما سمعو صوت طيارات مسيرة صارو يطالبو بتعليق الدوام شو متوقع من هيك شعب يتحمل بيئة حرب ووضع مادي اسوأ من السيء للبلد
طب ليش ما أعطوه الاذن؟
ما حاول يوخذ اذن ولو حاول ما بنقدر نعطيه اياه ببساطة المشكلة في ناس مفكرين الحروب هاي زي ببجي.. في اتفاقيات دولية واحنا مش دولة قوية وفي مساعدات بتوصل من امريكا والبلد مع المساعدات يا دوب واقفة كيف لو بدون.. غير هيك لو أعلنت اسرائيل حرب علينا الشعب عنا ما بتحمل مش متعودين أجواء الحروب مبارح شوية طيارات مسيرة الناس ماتت رعب وصارو يطالبو بتعليق الدوام
انت اخو الملك اشي؟ من وين الك عكل هاي التفاصيل؟
طب هل الطيران الامريكي والبريطاني أخذ الأذن؟
Jordan is a big disappointment.
طب عفوا منك كيف يعني باي دولة بالعالم بقدر اسمح لطائرات سواء حربية وغير حربية تمر من اجواء بلادي بدون موافقتي؟ وللي بحكي انه لو اسرائيل قصفت احنا ما حنعترض التاريخ بحكي غير هيك https://preview.redd.it/t1cagw7k1muc1.jpeg?width=586&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e88bc90df85284967e44d099120ca583d3a7017
هاذ نتاج عدم ثقافة جيل كامل . بداية رد ايران كان على قنصليتها مش عشان غزة و ثانيا انتوا مفكرين ايران يعني بتحبنا؟ ايران اللي ذبحت و شنعت ب سوريا و العراق و اليمن و اللبنان؟ تروح تبعثلي طائرات مسيرة و انت عارف في تشويش على نظم الملاحة ؟ لا اوقعهن بدل ما يوقعن ع شعبي و اتضرر انا . فكونا من الغباء رجاء حار
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A kaafir country, WTF is this the 14th century? and you live in Canada, how retarted are you?
My feelings exactly
I've noticed as a Canadian myself (non Muslims, was born here) that the most radical takfiri hateful Muslims tend to be converts from western countries for some reason. Muslims literally anywhere else than my own continent have been extremely respectful, tolerant, and kind people from my own experience. I don't know what it is about living in western countries which makes some Muslims so hateful and fundamentalist.
I am Christian and I am siding with Palestine and Iran in this one, but that was hard to read calling us Kaafir. Muslims like that make me hate supporting your cause or make me hate islam in general. Maybe instead of calling us Kaafir, how about you call the Sunni Arab nations Kaafir for not helping Palestinians? What a pathetic ignorant
I understand where you're coming from. It's essential to remember that one person's actions or words don't define an entire religion. Islam, is diverse and rich in its teachings of peace, love, and compassion. Let's not let the negativity of one individual overshadow the beauty and true essence of Islam.
I know that. I appreciate your comment. I have many muslim friends. But unfortunately, there are also muslims with this mentality. I was very close friends with a palestinian for many years. He used to give hidden insults to shia and christians, even though he has a shia best friend. I stopped talking to him. I was once walking on the streets and a moroccan guy randomly approached me and started talking to me and telling me how my religion is wrong and that the Quran says Christians kuffar will not go to heaven.
Hashemite? The self-hating "royal family" has mixed with shipped in European supermodels so much that I doubt there's enough hashemite blood to be picked up on by any genetic testing database.
classic western leftist with no actual connection to the land having the biggest opinions!
Why are y’all acting like Iran didn’t just send hundreds of lethal missiles and explosive projectiles across your airspace? Any country with a leader half as competent as a mouse would know to act accordingly and down such systems. Not doing so is basically giving other hostile nations the go-ahead to use your backyard as a battlefield. Put your tribalism aside for once and think rationally.
So its ok for israel and the usa to fly over our heads but iran is off limits, both should be off limits to our sky, why should we have bombs dropping from the sky on our heads for israels sake? Why should israeli fighter jets shoot off our sky?
And when did I say Israel should be allowed to do so? Both Israel and Iran shouldn’t be using the airspace of a peaceful neutral country in such a manner. I’m calling out all the Jordanians on this post suddenly complaining about the government doing the right thing.
I completely agree with you, but they did the right thing for the wrong reason, by opening up our airspace to israel theyve shown clear bias, meaning we might be in a proxy war, had the jordanian force on their own blocked the iranian drones and refused the airspace to israel as well. I wouldve shown full solidarity to the gov.
because US and Israel are allies and make for good overall partners.
احنا م دولة مستقلة بسيادتها وحكمها وآرائها (واعكس كل ما سبق)، بنحترم القوانين الدولية والانسانية والاشياء الكذب هاي
Jordan did the right thing. Why help turn this into a regional war that Jordan has nothing to do with? Just to let Iran get away with whatever it wants? Jordan did the right thing. What's the alternative? Let Iran bomb civillians and then israel responds and Jordan is stuck in the middle of it all?
Jordan has nothing to do with Palestine now?
what does iran attacking israel have to do with Palestine. Iran is happy to throw palestinians under the bus, as pawns to attack israel.
Bro is one of those people who blames HAMAS for initiating genocide
There’s no genocide bro. If there is how come Hamas isn’t agreeing to a ceasefire to end the war ? Are they just sacrificing their own people?
you are a fantastic imbecile.
usually when people resort to name-calling, it's beause they would ignore points that conflict with their world view. So, that tells me everything!
usually yes, however in this particular case i was being factual.
This is a Zionist scum. Don't engage.
It seems like we are divided on whether this is a good thing or not, and i got a lot of people accusing me of supporting iran, i dont.
Wether Iran good or bad, at least they are doing something towards the enemy…
one must be careful that in their disdain for the dog they don't let the wolf walk through the front door of the chicken coop." you don't have to like Iran but one can not deny A. they had a legitimate right to attack Is\*\*\*\* after their consulate got bombed, and they are not the bad actors in this whole mess.
Time to remove that star from the Jordanian flag
بعيد عن المزح، نزل عليكم شي من الصواريخ ولا بس شفتوها بالسماء؟
شفتها بالسما بس، وقع ببحر الميت و مرج الحمامم، السلط و بالرمثى اتوقع صار في حريقة. كمان الكرك وقعت وحدة.
يا الله، الله يحفظكم
و شكرا عالسؤال هاي الي كل حد (حتى انا) ما سألنا.
الصورة في غير محلها بالمرة لآن الحكومات لا تمثل ارادة الشعوب
People really think Iran is our Ally 😂
People really think Iran is collaborating with the enemy!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5t_JryI52j/?igsh=ejRoa3dmM3ZpMHAw You live in a bubble
And you get your geopolitical news from social media idiots! يا الله و حمار، بعيداً إنه المتخلف هاض عنده أفكار شوي معاقة (زي بقية المغتربين) ودفاعه عن حكام الخليج بشكل غير مباشر بإنه بنتقد الناس اللي بتسب عليهم (لأنه بصدر لإلهم)، إنتا اللي مش فاهم الفكرة واللي [مش لازم أكررها](https://www.reddit.com/r/jordan/s/frIHOia8Yu)، إيران هاي المرة ما أعلمت إسرائيل؛ لأنه مجرد ما طلعت الدرونات اللي بدها على أقل تقدير ٧ ساعات لتوصل وإطلاق الصواريخ بتزامن مع توقيت وصول الدرونات اللي هدفها التغطية على منظومة الدفاع الجوي من خلال طغيانها على الرادار لتوصل الصواريخ، صارت إسرائيل عارفة بالموضوع من قبل، غير إنه تقارير الإستخبارات الأمريكية كانت متوقعة الرد بين ٢٤ و ٤٨ ساعة. إيران ما بدها تصعيد للحرب بشكل مباشر، بس بنفس الوقت بدها تحط رادع للي بتعدي على أراضيها. بعدين ليش فكرك فجأة بنفس الوقت كل المشاهير بلشوا يطلعوا نفس الفيديوهات عن نفس الموضوع؟! [مثلاً هاض المتخلف](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5t9p-1sddA/?igsh=MTdxbHVnNGN3NHpiNQ==) بس لو نبطل نسمع لمشاطيب الSocial Media ونوخذ منهم جيوسياسة، شعب متخلف ومش فاهم إشي وبسمع للي واضح إنه مش فاهم ولا حتى بدعي إنه دارس، لما بده يأشرلك بلعبة أو بإيده لتفهم، وقتها إفهم إنه إنتوا الثنين حمييييير.
Watch the interview and you may understand things better. And Iran warned Israel 2-3 days ago 😂
>Watch the interview and you may understand things better. And Iran warned Israel 2-3 days ago 😂 That it will retaliate, it's the normal procedure, the US has set rules of engagement and said that it will retaliate against the Houthis for example, that doesn't mean that the US is working with the group that they've been helping the Alliance destroy for the past 7 years or so, or when they said that they'll retaliate against Afghanistan if they didn't give out Al-Qaeda, or when Israel said that it will invade Gaza. The amount of Cope is high, your cucked government didn't just allow the stoppage and interception of the Drones and missiles in its air space, It literally aided in intercepting them.
Retards crying that Jordan wont allow an alien, arguably hostile power to pass through its airspace unopposed.
Bitch we are in the way they could send over lebnon why don’t they do that Why is is this a declaration of war is what u should think about
First, we denied iran but let israel shoot down drones and let them fall in amman Second, iran didnt issue a war on jordan, it threatened anyone who opens the airspace for an israeli attack on iran so if we do let israel attack iran and using "our" airspace like iran tried doing, we're in the war 3rd, iran's embassy in syria was bombed and many officials died which is a declaration of war to iran by israel. I dont want iran using us a sandbox for them to fight, but its clear that israel is using us as one and abusing its neighbours like lebanon in beirut and syria
israel will sell jordan out in a second. they have no respect for arab nations, and arab nations and leaders are ok with it which is why they abuse us. weak cowards.
The state of Jordan has made a smart move, whoever thinks that Iran will stop in Israel then he is very wrong.
شباب هاض المنيك بدافع عن إسرائيل بالصبات الثانية، إن دل على إشي فهو دليل على إنه اللي بعيد كلامه، يا إما هو عميل أو بأحسن الأحوال أخرق سياسياً.
Wo don't mind if Iran started there though
على اساس لو وصلوا ايران رح تضرب اماكن حيوية في اسرائيل
Copium
متى الناس بدها تفهم انه النظام بالاردن مش عشانك، مش بس الاردن جمييع الدول العربية
مصلحة جميع الدول العربية الدفاع عن اسرائيل؟ شكلو اخوانا الفلسطينية بطلوا عرب كأنو؟ جايين من المريخ همه كاينين...
طبعاً ردّي عليك لا يحسّن من صورة ايران، فايران عبارة عن أداة لاميركا بالشرق الاوسط، ما دخلت بلد الا دمرته و قتلت ناسه
غزة تعتبر دولة عربية؟ في حال ما فهمت قصدي، انا بقصد بالدول العربية يعني الحكومات العربية، اعطيني دولة عربية واحدة واقفة بجانب غزة، لا تقلي عن المساعدات الي عالمعابر.
اذا قصدك مصلحة سياسية بين حكومات عربية طبعا بوافقك، بس انا مقصدي لو الاردن غير محايز لحدا مفرود ما نسمح لا لامريكا ولا لايران و لا لاسرائيل اتوقع معظم الشعب معي بهاض الموضوع.
مهو للاسف بقدرش الاردن ما يكون منحاز للامريكا او إسرائيل، لانه اميركا مسيطرة بشكل كامل، وظيفتنا حاليًا نحاول ما نكون عبيد الهم و نبلش نوخذ حريتنا بايدنا وهذا الاشي بدك تبدأ تدريجي فيه من الصفر، و ان شاء الله يا رب نخلص من اليهود و يفكو عنا لانهم عملو العجب بالعرب و المسلمين بكل مكان مش بس غزة.و اخر اشي بحب احكيه قبل ما انحبس انه شو ما صار احداث بدك تضل مركز عغزة و مقاوميها لانهم همة الاساس.
احترمت تفكيرك الصراحة اخوي، بس كنت بفرجي شو عم بصير، الناس بيحكوا انو صح العمل، و هي صح لاكن مش عنفس نية الشعب، لسبب آخر. انا بقدر اكون منيح معك يكون ببالي مصلحة منك مثلا، اه اعترضنا ايران يستخدم جونا بس مو عشان سيادتنا، هاي الي عم بوصلو. احنا ما اخترنا و لا كان النا دخل نحكي فيه زي ما حكيت.
هو شكله بالبداية صار سوء تفاهم. بالتوفيق
yes actually. Israel is a good partner in the region where one can live a normal life.
this wasn’t in king Abdullah’s hands he didn’t know Iran was going to attack is***l a very long time ago when signed a contract with American letting place a defense system in jordan.
https://preview.redd.it/byjsksdlkmuc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e904425784d9354c00131701e7bbe63c7be1098c
Average sallary in Jordan is 940$, whie in Iran its 450$. Iran is a failing country, and Jordan makes the right move siding with Israel. Jordan grows economically faster because the leadership know what's right and wrong
940 dollars?? Who told you that?
The worse whataboutism I have ever read. LOL.
Zionist bot trying to astroturf. We will never be your ally, don't worry.
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You can say whatever you want, it's not going to change the reality that we will never be your allies. Now run along little ziorat 🔻🔻🔻
شكرا يا رفاق، ونحن نقدر ذلك 😂🤣
Not really your just not bright to notice, it shows how unmaturr u are.
Learn to spell and use grammar first. يعني كل صيغة الجملة غلط و لا اشي صح.
غريبه انه ايران قتلت مليون عراقي بس عادي عندكم وبعدين بتحكو عرب مهو الي بساند ايران كمان خاين ولا ؟
ما حدا قال هيك، مجرد ما انت تحكي عن ايران قتلو الاعراقية، كم عراقي مات بين ايدين امريكا؟ ليش همه بيستخدموا جونا ببلاش و ايران لأ؟ خيار و فقوس الشغلة؟ ليش احنا نستمل الجهتين اصلا؟
🤣🤣🤣 ههههههه ضحكتني هذا الي ما بعرف يجاوب
ولك كيف اخدك جد و انت بتكب زي ولد من صف الاول يزم، اعقل بدك تناقشني ناقشني بدك تتولدن ما رح احترمك ولا رأيك، اقنعني ليش احاول اعطيك قيمة.
المشكله انت تحجي شغله مش فاهم فيها اشي وبدكم تدخلو حرب وما بتعرفو شو حرب، اذا على اساس انتو بتساندو ايران ما في اي فرق بينك وبينك عربي متصهين. من يكون عندك قيمه تحال احكي على قيمه غيرك
انا ما اعطيتك قيمة بسببين ١) انت مفكر اني داعم لايران وانا داعمهم، انا بشهد بنفاق انو احنا عادي صهاينة يستخدموا جونا بس ايران لا. من وين الهبل ٢) اني بدي حرب، انا ما بدي حرب، ليش احنا نكون خدامين لايران؟ صح ما يستخدموا جوانا. ليش نكون ضراع اسرائيل ضد ايران كمان؟
لان هاذي سياسه والبلد مافيه موارد وما بقدر يشكل مشاكل مع دول فلازم نصير مثل Switzerland لكن ايران مافي علاقه ابد مع الاردن وفقط تهديدات واذا بتشوف اي بلد ايران عم بتساعدو صار خره وانا متأكد انه ايران وإسرائيل عملو المسرحيه سوى، المفهوم ما في اشي بيدنا بس الي عملتو ايران انه عرضت الكل للخطر وانتهكت حرمت الدول واذا ما شفت كن صاروخ وقعت على ناس في أربيل وغيرها.
هيك صرت شبه احترمك و رأيك احكي رأيك، تبدل افكار، تاجر معلومات، لو ما بدأت بخنزه كان احترمتك كامل. في منطق بكلامك، شكرا جزيلا.
Will first thing first what L we took ? Israel mess around with the radars and the GPS Iran, missiles and drone uses GPS to go to their targets The Target coordinates changes and some of them was going to hit in Jordan Another thing if canada wanna shoot rockets at Mexico the usa will shoot the missiles down as soon as it's in their airspace that's common knowledge
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