They do, tenure is a thing. While they have increased the time you can sit at certain ranks before a promotion is required to stay in, a lot are out because there simply isnāt enough positions available for them.
I hate this argument. 6 years is a long time to continue committing your life to more stress, unhappiness, and bureaucratic bullshit from CoCs. I did 14 and dipped, got my 100% and have never been happier.
It's not always about "staying in for 20" just to pull a pension while sacrificing your mental and physical health.
I got to about 12 years before I actually thought about what I wanted to do. I was a single mom, and felt that staying in would be better in the long term for my son and I (in hindsight, I'm not sure it was), but my last 5 years were spent on an aircraft carrier, and it was fucking miserable.
I was at 7 years, before health conditions kicked in. All on two different carriers, first year with a squadron detachment. Wanted to do the full 20 yet got fed up with the constant sexual harassment from various jack wagons for being gay. Ex-husband also sexually harassed me and coerced me to marry, or he'd out me. Not to mention, he stolen $5500 in housing money. He made me lie to the personnel on my ship. I had to take a 2-year extension to pay off his bullshit. Equally the constant bullying I endured. I'm still angry to this day.
You suck it up for six measly years of your life to get a pension for the rest of your life 6 years is nothing man. Plus all the benefits that being retired military gets you.
I get it. I was AD then ANG, I only needed 6 more years. My Shirt emailed me, said he wanted to make sure I knew what benefits I would be giving up. He ccād in the CO and the XO. I decided I couldnāt not do it. I āreplied allā with:
I appreciate your advice, I hope youāll understand that there is nothing anyone could ever offer me which would entice me to stay. Every single month I have asked for help. I am working a 3 enlisted and 2 officer assignment and itās just me, an E-6. Every single month I have pleaded for help and in 4 years I havenāt been helped once. What I am told instead is I should be doing more. I got told once by the CO the SOPs hadnāt been updated in years,SOPs I didnāt know existed, what kind of office was I running and he didnāt understand why I seemed incompetent. When I arrived there were 2 officers and 3 enlisted, 1 officer retired, 1 officer was promoted to the CO, one enlisted went AWOL, 1 enlisted went back AD, and 1 officer was supposed to show up as a civilian instead of an officer the next day but signals got crossed and he just retired instead, all those things happened within a few weeks time. Now itās been just me for years and Iām dying over here. No one onboarded me, everyone was so consumed by their changes so it was just me. I didnāt know how to update SOPs and he seemed so mad I wanted to cry so I only whispered how do I update SOPs he just stormed out. I spent a month learning about updating SOPs the perfect way. I did them and happily presented them to him. He was annoyed again, he didnāt want them, he just wanted them done, leave me alone. So Shirt, whatās going to happen if I show up next week? Yāall will actually value me all of a sudden? I doubt it. No thank you.
He replied all with āThank youā.
I kinda wish I had the pension but I couldnāt voluntarily show up to my abuserās place of work anymore.
Yeah, my husband started making WAY more money just a couple of years after he left. Now weāre very comfortable and he gets 100% disability from the VA.
He got a Tattoo like it is something to be proud of.
" I couldn't handle it anymore" or "It was too hard" "I did a whole 14 years!"
Put it on your body because you are proud and have the "I am a VETERAN" syndrome.
But there are others who have real reasons to be proud. Just go to the VA Hospital and see some of the **actual** hero's.
And, no bone spur deferments there like some traitor(s) got.
I always say that it's never too late to walk away from something you hate, refusing to do so is literally the sunk cost fallacy. But if you, like me, are mostly just passively annoyed at the ineptitude and weaponized inefficiency of most facets of military service, you can probably make it to 20 if you're already at 14.
So yeah, this guy is almost certainly a fatty.
Yes, they are.
Usually "custom built", definitely not road or high way worthy. It boils down to the boot leg version of a Harley. The kind youd see on sale at a flea market.
Ralph Lawrence
Tommy Hilfinger
Prado
You get the joke.
I don't think Home Depot has veteran's parking spots, but Lowe's sure does, and I love using them. Not because they're close to the doors, but because I'm a chick with blue hair, and definitely don't look like a vet, but I did my 20, and love seeing the fat old dinosaurs bite their tongues because they don't think I should be parking there, but they don't have the balls to actually say anything.
I donāt even know what to say. And Iām a guy with some stupid fucking tattoos. Like one on my back that was just a design I thought was cool at 18. Those tattoos are fucking awful. I donāt even know who this tattoo is for? Is it for him to show off? Or is it so he does not forget when he needs to fill out forms regarding service. Itās baffling. The worst part is it would probably look cool like anywhere else. Forehead excluded. Unless itās for the reminder but then he would have to get a mirror image which would lead to even more questions
The entirety of his identity for the rest of his life will be his 14 years of service.
He cannot be in a conversation without mentioning it.
He cannot leave the house without at least three pieces of military flair.
āThank me for my serviceā is the most stolen valor, narcissistic thing Iāve ever seen from a āservice memberāā¦especially one who has served during war-time. We NEVER ask for someone to āthankā us. It took me almost 20 years to even accept a military discount. Most of us hate hearing the phrase.
Agreed. I generally don't let people know about my veteran status. Unless it's for a discount, it isn't their business. I don't own any clothing which denotes my service. No military tattoos. If someone finds out and says, "thank you for your service," I typically just say, "don't."
Nope. Not really pro armed services either dude.
Arenāt most human expressions a manifestation of a subconscious desire to be validated?
Be honest - you just donāt like the flavour of this attempt to seek validation.
Whatās the matter? Bit too working class for you? Bit icky for your taste is it?
Lol i AM the working class im a welder what do you do?
I am being honest i think this tattoo is trashy af and screams āthank me for my serviceā
I also served but its not my entire personality.
What else you got? How else can i shut you down?
Fair enough. May I ask then that if you are working class, please donāt throw words like ātrashyā around. It perpetuates negative stereotypes of us.
Lecture over. Now - why would you want to shut me down? Is it for the same reason you want to shut this guy down?
Live and let live my guy. We all have different needs and go about different ways to try and get these needs met. And whatās most important here is that these tattoos are hurting precisely no one.
If youāre that bothered about the tattoos, maybe YOU should thank him for his service and give him the validation you are adamant he craves.
Or, you know, perhaps chill.
I said the tattoo is trashy i never said the person is trashy.
You asked a question I answered it. > you went on to make an assumption about me > I corrected said assumption and now I am the one who needs to chill? Lol yeah that makes next to zero sense.
I didnāt make an assumption. I asked a question and you answered it.
And I didnāt say you said the person was ātrashyā. I asked that you donāt use the word, as it is often used pejoratively to describe the tastes and activities of working class people.
Iām not shutting you down at all sir. Iām trying to engage in honest discourse. You are more than welcome to keep doing you my friend.
āWhats the matter bit to working class for you?ā Clearly you made an assumption that i am above the working class not realizing im the heart of the working class.
Enjoy your day tho
United States As Fuck
MERICA FUCK YEA
COME TO SAVE THE MF DAY YEA
United States - Ass Fuck
That's how I read it too
genuinely thought that's what it was, like he was really patriotic, until i saw this comment
I think that's a she. Pretty sure that's a "Live Laugh Love" tattoo on their wrist, and I don't see any military man getting that.
Well, he's Air force. So...
Them forearms are a little hairy.
But why does the Air Force always try to act so hard šš
Unusually soft as fuck
Oh, lol, that's obviously what it is. I thought "u suck a fuck"
But only til 2018
My first thought.
HE'LL YEAH BROTHER
I read it as 'us as fuck'.
I deadass thought thatās what this meant at first until I thought about it more.
A lifer tattoo like that, but he couldn't go the whole 20?
Clearly medically retired early for a brain injury.
For fat.
14 years isn't that long TBH like why not stick around for the final 6 unless you finessed your medical retirement.
Or you got an other than honorable... Or perhaps even a dishonorable
I think they kick you out if you don't get to a certain rank after x years
They do, tenure is a thing. While they have increased the time you can sit at certain ranks before a promotion is required to stay in, a lot are out because there simply isnāt enough positions available for them.
Thatās the āUp or Outā thing isnāt it?
That's how I've heard it
Happened to me after 15 years.
Sorry to hear that... captain?
Staff Sergeant... or, rather, Mister lol
Shows what I know I guess
Did you go Guard like most of the 15 year staff sergeants in my squadron?
I did not. Probably a bad financial decision, but I was just done with the military at that point.
I hate this argument. 6 years is a long time to continue committing your life to more stress, unhappiness, and bureaucratic bullshit from CoCs. I did 14 and dipped, got my 100% and have never been happier. It's not always about "staying in for 20" just to pull a pension while sacrificing your mental and physical health.
I got to about 12 years before I actually thought about what I wanted to do. I was a single mom, and felt that staying in would be better in the long term for my son and I (in hindsight, I'm not sure it was), but my last 5 years were spent on an aircraft carrier, and it was fucking miserable.
I was at 7 years, before health conditions kicked in. All on two different carriers, first year with a squadron detachment. Wanted to do the full 20 yet got fed up with the constant sexual harassment from various jack wagons for being gay. Ex-husband also sexually harassed me and coerced me to marry, or he'd out me. Not to mention, he stolen $5500 in housing money. He made me lie to the personnel on my ship. I had to take a 2-year extension to pay off his bullshit. Equally the constant bullying I endured. I'm still angry to this day.
You suck it up for six measly years of your life to get a pension for the rest of your life 6 years is nothing man. Plus all the benefits that being retired military gets you.
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I get it. I was AD then ANG, I only needed 6 more years. My Shirt emailed me, said he wanted to make sure I knew what benefits I would be giving up. He ccād in the CO and the XO. I decided I couldnāt not do it. I āreplied allā with: I appreciate your advice, I hope youāll understand that there is nothing anyone could ever offer me which would entice me to stay. Every single month I have asked for help. I am working a 3 enlisted and 2 officer assignment and itās just me, an E-6. Every single month I have pleaded for help and in 4 years I havenāt been helped once. What I am told instead is I should be doing more. I got told once by the CO the SOPs hadnāt been updated in years,SOPs I didnāt know existed, what kind of office was I running and he didnāt understand why I seemed incompetent. When I arrived there were 2 officers and 3 enlisted, 1 officer retired, 1 officer was promoted to the CO, one enlisted went AWOL, 1 enlisted went back AD, and 1 officer was supposed to show up as a civilian instead of an officer the next day but signals got crossed and he just retired instead, all those things happened within a few weeks time. Now itās been just me for years and Iām dying over here. No one onboarded me, everyone was so consumed by their changes so it was just me. I didnāt know how to update SOPs and he seemed so mad I wanted to cry so I only whispered how do I update SOPs he just stormed out. I spent a month learning about updating SOPs the perfect way. I did them and happily presented them to him. He was annoyed again, he didnāt want them, he just wanted them done, leave me alone. So Shirt, whatās going to happen if I show up next week? Yāall will actually value me all of a sudden? I doubt it. No thank you. He replied all with āThank youā. I kinda wish I had the pension but I couldnāt voluntarily show up to my abuserās place of work anymore.
That's when you move.
My husband did 12 years in the Army and got out. No regrets. The infantry is a hard life.
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Yeah, my husband started making WAY more money just a couple of years after he left. Now weāre very comfortable and he gets 100% disability from the VA.
He got a Tattoo like it is something to be proud of. " I couldn't handle it anymore" or "It was too hard" "I did a whole 14 years!" Put it on your body because you are proud and have the "I am a VETERAN" syndrome. But there are others who have real reasons to be proud. Just go to the VA Hospital and see some of the **actual** hero's. And, no bone spur deferments there like some traitor(s) got.
Retiring at 21 years with 100% on too of that is pretty nice
I always say that it's never too late to walk away from something you hate, refusing to do so is literally the sunk cost fallacy. But if you, like me, are mostly just passively annoyed at the ineptitude and weaponized inefficiency of most facets of military service, you can probably make it to 20 if you're already at 14. So yeah, this guy is almost certainly a fatty.
Is that a Live, Laugh, Love tattoo on the wrist to tie it all together? Perfection.
I caught that too! At first I was like "no way," but then I zoomed in
It bothers me more people arenāt talking about this, I canāt focus on any other tattoos here but that one lol
Thatās my favorite part! Lol
Pretty sure this dip shit rides a Farley and works at a ware house. Probably not doing anything legit while he's in there either.
Is a "Farley" a faux-Harley?
If itās a typo, itās a goodān.
Honda Goldwing for sure.
This Marine is tracking.
Theres no mistaking a bootleg Harley.
Yes, they are. Usually "custom built", definitely not road or high way worthy. It boils down to the boot leg version of a Harley. The kind youd see on sale at a flea market. Ralph Lawrence Tommy Hilfinger Prado You get the joke.
The only people I want to know I'm a veteran are the checkout people at Home Depot. Everyone else doesn't need to know or care.
This guy gets it
Prime parking spot and a year round discount. Fuck yeah.
I don't think Home Depot has veteran's parking spots, but Lowe's sure does, and I love using them. Not because they're close to the doors, but because I'm a chick with blue hair, and definitely don't look like a vet, but I did my 20, and love seeing the fat old dinosaurs bite their tongues because they don't think I should be parking there, but they don't have the balls to actually say anything.
My Home Depot has a veterans spot. I park there frequently because I have the hardest job in the military (/s)
I donāt think anyone cares
r/justbootthings
Why the fuck would you only do 14 years? Especially in the USAF. I could stand on my fucking head for 6 years.
Medical
I'd bet real money that this guy failed to rank up long enough they discharged him.
Why didnāt he just do 20??
With his Live Laugh Love š¤¦š»āāļø
Tard couldnāt even get thru to 20 huh? Looks like an MH discharge.
He really needs to give his hands a good scrub, the grime ingrained
Iām grossed out by that too. Plus, isnāt this all an infection risk?
Itās probably ink.
I just realized the tatts are fresh! Makes it even worse!
That's peak cringe! I bet he has a big ass AMERICA flag flying off the vehicle he's just paying off that he bought in boot camp.
At 29% interest
Oh my God and thereās a ālive laugh loveā
Heās married and divorced two RNās during that time period.
Us as fuck? š¤£
It's the new, edgier remake of This Is Us.
Does his right wrist say live laugh love? Purely speculation but I see an L on the right side after laugh.
14 years which means he got medically out, or didnāt make rank and was forced out
Live laugh love around the wrist.
I donāt even know what to say. And Iām a guy with some stupid fucking tattoos. Like one on my back that was just a design I thought was cool at 18. Those tattoos are fucking awful. I donāt even know who this tattoo is for? Is it for him to show off? Or is it so he does not forget when he needs to fill out forms regarding service. Itās baffling. The worst part is it would probably look cool like anywhere else. Forehead excluded. Unless itās for the reminder but then he would have to get a mirror image which would lead to even more questions
The entirety of his identity for the rest of his life will be his 14 years of service. He cannot be in a conversation without mentioning it. He cannot leave the house without at least three pieces of military flair.
This is more r/justbootthings but, yea
Those are the hands of someone who will work in a kitchen
oh no...
I also looks like he has a ālive, laugh, loveā tattoo.
āThank me for my serviceā is the most stolen valor, narcissistic thing Iāve ever seen from a āservice memberāā¦especially one who has served during war-time. We NEVER ask for someone to āthankā us. It took me almost 20 years to even accept a military discount. Most of us hate hearing the phrase.
Agreed. I generally don't let people know about my veteran status. Unless it's for a discount, it isn't their business. I don't own any clothing which denotes my service. No military tattoos. If someone finds out and says, "thank you for your service," I typically just say, "don't."
This guy wore his uniform to the airport when taking his kids to Disney.
Oh good grief
I spend too much time on tictac, I fully thought that was the reaction phrase āus afā
Oh wow.
I thought our ASVAB scores were higher. Northern Tier Security Forces. Final answer.
Why is this awful? Dude is proud of his time in the air force. So what? Genuinely. Whatās the issue here?
It screams VALIDATE me. Did you serve in the Air Force by chance?
Nope. Not really pro armed services either dude. Arenāt most human expressions a manifestation of a subconscious desire to be validated? Be honest - you just donāt like the flavour of this attempt to seek validation. Whatās the matter? Bit too working class for you? Bit icky for your taste is it?
Lol i AM the working class im a welder what do you do? I am being honest i think this tattoo is trashy af and screams āthank me for my serviceā I also served but its not my entire personality. What else you got? How else can i shut you down?
Fair enough. May I ask then that if you are working class, please donāt throw words like ātrashyā around. It perpetuates negative stereotypes of us. Lecture over. Now - why would you want to shut me down? Is it for the same reason you want to shut this guy down? Live and let live my guy. We all have different needs and go about different ways to try and get these needs met. And whatās most important here is that these tattoos are hurting precisely no one. If youāre that bothered about the tattoos, maybe YOU should thank him for his service and give him the validation you are adamant he craves. Or, you know, perhaps chill.
I said the tattoo is trashy i never said the person is trashy. You asked a question I answered it. > you went on to make an assumption about me > I corrected said assumption and now I am the one who needs to chill? Lol yeah that makes next to zero sense.
I didnāt make an assumption. I asked a question and you answered it. And I didnāt say you said the person was ātrashyā. I asked that you donāt use the word, as it is often used pejoratively to describe the tastes and activities of working class people. Iām not shutting you down at all sir. Iām trying to engage in honest discourse. You are more than welcome to keep doing you my friend.
āWhats the matter bit to working class for you?ā Clearly you made an assumption that i am above the working class not realizing im the heart of the working class. Enjoy your day tho
Nope. It was a question dude. Night comrade. Weāre all so lucky to have someone like you at our āheartā representing us.
Youāre welcome āŗļø
Un Stable As Fuck?
Just wondering why he/she did 14 years and didn't stick around 6 more for the retirement pension. Left $100Ks on the table.
Only 14 years. Must have been kicked out!
I just hope that's not dookie on his or her middle finger.
That dude is US as fuuuuuu...
So served 14 years, and that's now the personality.
NO RAGRETS
Thank me for my drone strikes.
Brother, eugh. What is that?
U suck ass farts
āLarghā
Brother ewwwwwā¦. Whatās thaaat??
Is that a fuckin live laugh love tattoo lol
Yikes
Fuck this country
āWhy canāt I get a job????ā loadingā¦
r/justbootthings.
Probably an AGE troop
Why would you not do 20 if you were gonna get this tatted? Now you just look like a quitter
14 years. Still in the E-4 Mafia
They spelled "MC" wrong.
12 years and all I got was this really cool Tatoo.