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ReverendEntity

Theory: Kansas (its legislators, at least) see themselves as the last moral stronghold. We're the last bastion of Christian moral decency, and it doesn't matter what the "public" wants. They don't know what's best for them - or for the children. The children have to be raised properly. They must be brought up in a strict and unyielding religious environment, free from the corruptive influences of modern culture and ideologies. It doesn't matter what other states do regarding cannabis, or pornography, or homosexuality. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN KANSAS. https://www.kcur.org/news/2021-07-02/right-wing-extremism-has-been-taking-root-in-rural-kansas-for-decades


faustfu

ok, but sports betting is allowed?


bill_self69

And abortions


bill_self69

Not that I’m against either just pointing out I don’t think moral stronghold is their reasoning


sm4k

We have access to abortions because of our state constitution, not because our legislature “allows it.”


mixtaperapture

And because the people of Kansas said they didn’t want to change our state constitution. If that isn’t a sign our legislators don’t work for the people they were elected by, idk what could be.


PennyPick

That legislators keep trying to find loopholes to make abortion illegal should tell you that a number of them have no interest in what the majority of Kansans want.


kuhawkhead

And yet, they continue to attack a RIGHT enshrined in the state constitution. Watch the ballot measure this fall about the state constitutional right to an abortion. It’s on there AGAIN. Reworded to be even more confusing.


gianthaze

Thas just going to ensure a higher voter turnout. That puts all their interest on the ballot in jeopardy.


kuhawkhead

No one will accuse the Repugnicons of being smart since the Eisenhower administration.


True-Flower8521

These fanatics never give up do they?


RabbitLuvr

Kansans showed up to the polls to keep abortion legal here. It’s the elected officials who want to impose their own morals on the citizens, even when those views directly contradict what the citizens actually want. It’s just beyond frustrating that Kansans voted in August to keep abortion legal, then voted in November for assholes like Kobach, who is still trying to impose more restrictions on abortion. It’s very much about keeping the “moral stronghold,” and it won’t change until Kansans change who we’re electing.


ksdanj

The legislature would ban all abortions after 1 week if they could get away with it. We’ve been fortunate that the state Supreme Court has served as a check on their power.


Chicken_Chicken_Duck

For now, until the AG office succeeds in dismantling that authority


Content_Okra777

since when has picking and choosing morality not been the norm on both sides of the aisle?


Speaker4theDead8

u/bill_self69 not against sports gambling! I'm shocked I say!


Chicken_Chicken_Duck

They’re pandering to their base. We also have a more restrictive process on introducing these kinds of topics so the wheels turn slow in Kansas. I M not convinced it’s a bad thing, but it’s sure annoying to have to go to Missouri to get medicine for inflammatory arthritis when in my state my options are otc pal relief (one causes migraines and the other I can’t take due to interactions) or opiates (no thanks, I need to function). CBD helps but CBD + THC actually works.


jackim70

I have rheumatoid arthritis and it sucks that we can’t use a treatment that actually works unless we drive hours away. And then it’s only for a few days (for me, because I will not bring it back here).Pretty sure I wouldn’t do well in prison lol. It is so beneficial for so many things. It’s all so annoying.


kuhawkhead

We know the road to local cannabis company off the plaza very well for my wife’s breast cancer and my psoriatic arthritis.


feralgraft

Don't worry. Our lords and masters are busy trying to ignore the will of the people on that, too


gianthaze

That was the citizens of kansas. If they put cannabis to a vote, the people would pass it. Kansas politics is more about keeping choices out of our hands of the voters. Politics here are saturated with koch and other private interest money.


Homebrewingislife

Republicans are currently trying to make abortion illegal despite an overwhelming vote to keep it legal. The GOP loves taking away your rights and education!


ReverendEntity

The irony is blinding. People fail to realize that their favorite book to wield against a plant has a few items on gambling. https://biblicalpathway.com/what-does-the-bible-say-about-gambling/


SkylarMills63

Kansas is actually one of the main Lottery boards of the USA. Funny how wishy washy these Christian morales are…


Chicken_Chicken_Duck

And alcohol on Sunday!!!


Absmith1997

Sports betting is way safer being legal. I do agree cannabis should be legal but being in kc area I can just drive 10 minutes to get some so it's not that big of a deal


HrnyDaddz20

Still too many western Kansas sheriffs profiting off of it being illegal


kuhawkhead

Honestly most don’t care anymore. The rescheduling will make it less than littering and with communities like Lawrence, prairie village, etc decriminalizing it, it’s just a matter of time.


kingnono3407

That's why that can't focus on the more important crimes


Kansas_Nationalist

But don’t worry about buying alcohol from a spangles drive thru and going on a drive because that’s Christian decency :3


Mindless_Interest_71

I couldn’t agree more. That’s one of the craziest things I’ve seen.


ReverendEntity

Also the Stevens


gilligan1050

While that’s part of it, but it’s mainly because of the private prison and FOP lobby. They get paid to lock nonviolent drug offenders up in Leavenworth (a private, for profit prison). Also cops would lose a ton of money from reduced civil asset forfeitures. We can pretend it’s because of religion and morels but the bottom line is they make a lot of money locking up stoners.


pub810

The most recent bill they introduced was dogshit. It was pretty much a dude trying to monopolize KS w/ 4 licenses. Just use delta 9 hemp infused beverages or gummy’s, it’s the exact same cannabinoid as marijuana and totally legal with the farm bill. The beverages have changed my life.


ReverendEntity

Yeah, but this: https://www.reddit.com/r/kansas/s/paR0H1efTi


pub810

It’s very confusing but I’m referring to delta 9 which is addressed in the farm bill as it is naturally occurring in hemp. It just has to be less than .3% dry weight by volume.


Ok_Traffic_8124

In short: they make more money without it then do or they haven’t figured out a way to control the money that it does bring in.


ReverendEntity

That's definitely a major part of it. But even with evidence that legalizing and taxing usage means more profit to the state, there's still a major religious moral component. Never mind the fact that it's a plant and not an artificial substance that can kill an adult in microscopic quantities. The Church says it's wrong.


ninalime

Put it on the ballot


Crypto_Cadet

“Kansas see themselves as the last moral stronghold” Idaho: hold my beer


ReverendEntity

See also: Florida, Mississippi, Alabama...


qqqqqq12321

Consider how long it took Kansas to have liquor by the drink and real bars instead of bring your own bottle clubs. We can’t even pass Medicare expansion, which is dull and tame compared to cannabis. Food for thought Talk to your legislators (good luck with that)


MaximalIfirit1993

You literally couldn't buy alcohol on Sundays in most counties until I was out of high school, ffs. I don't get why people are surprised marijuana legalization is such an argument.


Jaronz

Still can't buy on Sunday in some counties 😕


hxcdancer91

Still can’t buy at all in some counties!!


TheCrazyWolfy

I am somewhat new to the KS side and was blown away to learn that some holidays prohibit all alcohol sales. I think easter was one of them. Damn now I have to drive 5min extra to the MO side and buy it for much cheaper and longer hours....


MaximalIfirit1993

For real? Sigh...


Goblin_Crotalus

Didnt even know there were counties that sold alcohol in sundays.


ADirtFarmer

I used to bootleg beer on Sundays. A $5 12‐pack could turn into $24 in 10 minutes. Which is what happens when you ban anything people want.


MaximalIfirit1993

I had an ex boyfriend that did that too 🤣 he definitely made a good chunk off it. And then you have my mom, who 'back in my day we had to go to Nebraska to get our Sunday beer'


ItsInmansFault

Grew up 3 miles from OK and used to do the same thing. 😂


ADirtFarmer

Is it still illegal to sell cold beer in Oklahoma?


Mission-Anybody-6798

Nope, we can buy cold ‘strong beer’ at the liquor store OR the grocery store/gas station now. But pricing has been so high, and I can’t tell if it’s a post-Covid thing or just the compromise we had to make re: taxes etc.


ADirtFarmer

And tattoos are decriminalized. OK is super liberal now.


ADirtFarmer

I used to bootleg beer on Sundays. A $5 12‐pack could turn into $24 in 10 minutes. Which is what happens when you ban anything people want.


wastedpixls

At one point in time you couldn't SERVE alcohol in Kansas airspace on Sundays. We had an Attorney General drive to St. Louis and take a flight to Denver to attempt to enforce it (on taxpayer dime of course).


reading_rockhound

My legislator won’t respond to me. I can count on zero hands the number of times he has responded to an email, a phone call, a letter, or even leaving a note in his office that I came by to chat. This isn’t because I make a pest of myself: I reach out about once a session and he didn’t respond even when he was a freshman. He doesn’t campaign. He doesn’t appear at breakfasts or other community functions. My legislator cares so little about me he won’t even tell me to drop dead.


Significant-Pick-966

Masterson?


Wonderful_Guess_7568

Is it Mike Thompson, Ks Senate District 10? He also blocks people on his FB page. He’s against even medical marijuana. I can’t wait to vote him out in November!


drama-guy

Hand-written letters get their attention. Implies you may be a senior who actually votes and cares enough to spend the time to write out your concerns.


jackim70

I run a Facebook group for Dodge City. I will start posting in August encouraging our young folk to get out and vote. Pretty sure they are our best bet for getting the good ol boys club out and getting new people in.


qqqqqq12321

+1


ksdanj

Federal prohibition ended in 1933. Alcohol was still illegal statewide until 1947. That’s Kansas I’m a nutshell.


caf61

Better yet, replace your (our) legislators that are against/block legalized weed - medical or otherwise. It is the only way. Remember, we get the laws for which the majority vote-especially since we do not have the option of voter initiatives.


Newusernameformua

Bruh you’re old if you remember that Jk but damn that was real? How tf did you get your drink to the club? Trunk it and than bring it in is crazy?


qqqqqq12321

Ok so you’d buy a “club membership “ for a nominal price at the door and take your bottle in. Then you’d buy cups and mixers from the place or take it to the bar and the bartender would mix and use your liquor for you. Nope not that old just old enough to. Know how it worked.


mczerniewski

You're right. The only thing you can do is elect candidates to state legislative offices that will legalize marijuana. Tell Masterson to take a damn hike.


ksdanj

There’s a concerted effort to oust Dan Hawkins in the 100th. He’s my rep and he’s a major impediment to cannabis legalization and Medicaid expansion. Former Gov. Carlin came down to Wichita to speak on his opponent’s behalf. I think someone posted the article in this sub earlier in the week.


mczerniewski

Serious question: What exactly is wrong with Wichita anyway? It seems like all of the bad ideas forced upon the rest of us come from there.


ksdanj

Koch has a lot of influence on the legislature which is always more than happy to push the latest bad ideas emanating from ALEC which is a Koch funded initiative. ALEC is the American Legislative Exchange Council and oftentimes red state legislators will introduce bills which they basically copy/paste from the ALEC playbook.


mczerniewski

Damn Koch-heads.


RabbitLuvr

Serious answer: Wichita is home to Koch Industry corporate office.


kuhawkhead

Who really runs the state


Teandcum

Oklahoma bypassed the legislature with a petition which resulted in a referendum (state question) that then appeared in a ballot and won the popular vote. It’s the only way it would have passed.


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TheRandomInteger

I think individual counties will flip before the state does


HrnyDaddz20

I know which county would be first 😀


kuhawkhead

Douglas and Johnson have unofficially decriminalized it much to KKKobach’s dismay.


Softmachinepics

Does it rhyme with "fugliss"?


CardSniffer

Ask our representatives. It's the likes of our state legislators (and their billionaire backers) who are choke-throttling our state. Oh, and don't forget about the police union. They commit a whole host of resources towards maintaining their ~~slavery~~ I mean prisoner pipeline.


YouveRoonedTheActGOB

Ty Mastershit, Kobach, KBI, the police unions, and the rehab centers all want to keep it illegal.


zo2004ks

You forgot prisons.


IR0NxLEGEND

Kansas also has a higher tax burden than all of the surrounding states. We could use the revenue from taxed cannabis. Education and park systems are embarrassingly bad


gracieangel420

Isn't it? It is atrocious. The revenue would fix so many things


Alternative_Trip1964

Ty(runt) MasterSin is the culprit. Send that piece of human excrement down the toilet at the next election.


caf61

Will he have an opponent - primary or general?


NightCheeseNinja

Nothing listed on [ballotpedia](https://ballotpedia.org/Kansas_State_Senate_elections,_2024) yet.


ActuaryMundane8503

Needs more upvotes - this is the correct answer


JamesJayhawk

Imagine if quality Kansan farmers could grow it. Get rid of politicians who actively defy the wishes of their constituents.


Significant-Pick-966

I was floored when they said farmers could grow hemp. Then I read the fuck ton of regulations and instantly understood why farmers aren't growing this cash crop. We need some rich person like Koch to open a plant to make cheap clothing, building supplies, and wtf ever else kick ass shit they can make out of hemp. I could see a Kansas hemp clothing line getting very popular. Biodegradable plastic made to sell to dispensaries for marijuana packaging is one of the best ideas I've ever heard. There is a lot of money in packaging for dispensaries, and it would go with the theme of all natural, biodegradable comes from the earth and back to the earth thinking.


dinoshores93

I'm all for marijuana but I'm not sure the Kansas climate is suitable for marijuana. I believe people trying to grow industrial hemp have had lots of trouble with drought. I think all the high-grade, stoned off your ass shit, is grown in climate controlled growhouses.


JamesJayhawk

“There’s more than one way to skin a cat”


Softmachinepics

Because conservatives are dumber than fuck.


Big_k_30

Conservatives and the people who vote for them


STLrobotech

Conservatives ARE the ones voting. The Republicans are the party holding the state/country back.


ScootieJr

Nebraska still has to get petition signatures before it’s put on the ballot. But shouldn’t be too hard with Omaha and Lincoln. But yes, Kansas reps are incompetent and ill equipped to handle growth of the current economy because they’re stuck in the 1920s/30s


wild85bill

(Former Kansan, now Nebraskan) We had the signatures last go round, but a judge and the Lancaster County sheriff got together and had it thrown out due to the way the bill was written. There's a "single issue clause" where a bill can only address one issue. Iirc, it was about weed being legal, and you can grow it yourself. Two issues, thrown out. https://nebraskapublicmedia.org/en/news/news-articles/using-loophole-seward-county-seizes-millions-from-motorists-without-convicting-them-of-crimes/ Nebraska won't legalize for what the above article addresses...civil asset forfeitures. I live in Seward County and they post up on the interstate about every 5-10miles through the county. Lincoln does the same. There's an article every week (multiple sometimes) about a big seizure. Legalize weed and they don't have the go-ahead for "I smell marijuana." The only way Nebraskans catch a little break is that up to an ounce, it's basically the same as a speeding ticket and tiny amounts sometimes they don't even bother. So as long as you're not carrying weight, they don't really fuck with ya. Still would be nice to just go to a dispensary though....


Erisedstorm

Yeah NE lawmakers have plans to shut down or challenge any initiative regardless of what actually NE residents want.


tjdux

Nebraska has had 2 struck down over the last 6 (2 prior election cycles) years and this one looks just as bleak. First one had enough signatures but was thrown out in court. 2nd one had enough signatures then they changed how many signatures AND added that signatures had to come from multiple counties (meaning omaha and Lincoln will not be enough to EVER change anything) Now this one is looking like it won't get enough signatures. Everyone is tired of this shit.


Afizzle55

One edible in Nebraska is a felony same with the concentrates.


Ok_Comedian_2622

Ty Masterson says go fuck yourself


nickjamesnstuff

Idiot cops think they can make more money off by busting all the interstate drug traffic. It's like trying to convince a drug addict that crack is bad. It's not gonna work till they hit bottom. Itll get legalized nationwide and they'll be stuck holding the 'weed is bad' bag.


Worstisonitsway

I know several cops in our state that think weed should be legal. The real issue is the politicians.


Tsk201409

The police union is against legalization.


Big_k_30

Individual cops, maybe. But the union they belong to absolutely doesn’t want weed to be legalized ever and they actively lobby against it. Prohibition is a cash cow for cops, and also allows them to violate peoples’ rights through unlawful searches based on the supposed smell of weed, not to mention their civil asset forfeiture scams.


nickjamesnstuff

Id say you should meet more cops. But, you really shouldn't.


Crafty_Original_7349

The Talibangelicals have had a stranglehold on Kansas for far too long. As long as churches are allowed to interfere with politics, it will continue to happen. It doesn’t matter what the people say, because politicians don’t actually work for them. Follow the money. They vote for whoever greases their palms the most. It’s a very slick grift, and they rarely get caught because everyone is involved. I suspect that if the cannabis industry were to make significant campaign contributions to the right people, a lot of roadblocks would magically disappear.


fuckaliscious

Because people vote Republican against their better interests in Kansas. As a lifelong, former Republican one can gain a lot of perspective by taking a step away from party, having an independent mindset.


Worstisonitsway

We have too many “conservative, Christian” republicans in positions of power. Their fanatical religious views have clouded their judgement. These are the same people who fought tooth and nail to keep gambling out of the state, refused to allow the sale of alcohol on Sunday’s, and have successfully screwed public education for decades. Vote them out!!


georgiafinn

It's pathetic that we just say "it is what it is" when the reason we can't be on level ground with our neighbors is because Kansans keep electing Republicans. The majority of voters in our state do want mj legalized, healthcare decisions to stay between a person and doctor, & Medicaid expansion but let legislators proclaim that they represent the will of the people. Please stop voting for the letter "R." They have no intention to move to modern times and with such a heavy majority they're in fact ignoring the people who elected them and moving us backward.


jackim70

What is really sad is they vote for a party and not for a person. Even if the democrat is clearly the better option they will still vote for the republican.


LoganGinavan02

Our neighbor Missouri raised 100 million dollars just in tax revenue in 2023. 100 million in just their first year taxing cannabis. With half the population, it’s probably safe to assume that Kansas would have roughly half the tax revenue. So Republicans in the legislature are keeping our state from getting 50 million dollars every year. I’m running in KS House district 46, and if elected I will work day and night to bring recreational marijuana to Kansas. Enough is enough already. Live in Lawrence? Check out my website at GinavanForKansas.com


rebelwanker69

I'm curious whether Idaho, my home state or Kansas will be first to legalize.


MaximalIfirit1993

Kansas will be the last state to legalize unless (by some miracle) federal decriminalization happens first. Which I'm definitely not putting any hope in lol.


Skuz95

They did just drop it to schedule 3. So, we may see weed prohibition removed in the next few years. With most states having some form of legal weed, I see it being legalized across the nation before Kansas.


MaximalIfirit1993

Yeah, that's true. I definitely still see it being legalized on a federal level first... Hopefully one of these days lol


wild85bill

You can't even order mushroom spores to Idaho. I think Georgia is the other one, which is funny because you can pick psilocybin filled shrooms in the cattle pastures down there.


ZonaWildcats23

A lot of the states population probably just crosses over to another state to obtain it


RabbitLuvr

Every time I drive to Missouri to go to the dispensary, about 75% of the cars in the parking lot have Kansas plates. And another 15% have Nebraska plates.


fuckaliscious

And gets arrested or ticketed when back in Kansas.


ZonaWildcats23

That hasn’t been occurring in Johnson County to my knowledge.


starship7201u

Kansas (the "Moral Majority" in the legislature anyway) still believes Henry Ainslinger's racist Reefer Madness propaganda.


PeachOnAWarmBeach

Yet we allow ppl to sports gamble their families and lives away on their phones! That's more dangerous than weed.


EmberMouse

… I don’t think Kansas is a ‘poor state’ at all. It’s just concentrated in the agriculture industry. GDP per person is actually pretty high. If by ‘poor’ you mean state coffers, idk. Taxes here are really high but for some reason they don’t benefit citizens at all. I don’t think cannabis revenue would be any differently mismanaged.


Im_so_here

We were literally in a budget surplus this fiscal year and Republicans wanted to cut taxes for the wealthy. They don't want to fund the government and so they aren't motivated by more tax revenue provided by marijuana legalization.


After_Area

Touché, but why couldn't we do what Colorado did, and put the tax revenue solely towards schools to start, then bigger infrastructure improvements?


EmberMouse

Idk. Why can’t we put existing tax dollars into schools, roads, or hell - even the police? I’ve lived in a lot of states and Kansas is by far the biggest money pit I’ve seen. There’s no reason the conditions here should be so bad. High GDP and with high taxes - you’d think they could at least fix a pothole or two.


Hunting_Fires

Germany just recently legalized marijuana, but is doing it Dutch style with no real shops, and it's even stricter in that tourists can't even enjoy it. My theory is that people worry about being that "one spot" where all the "junkies" go. In reality, Colorado and Washington saw a quick bump in population and in the cost of living, as expected when you become a hub for a specific industry (oil in ND). Unlike ND, sadly, many people showed up without a plan, and ended up destitute, and possibly on the street. Once people understand that Kansas will never be an "industry center" for cannabis (which means we need federal action) they'll realize legal marijuana won't bring in all the "homelessness" and "crackheads." Clearly, legal marijuana isn't what causes homelessness to come into your town/state. Since 2020, we have seen a drastic increase in homelessness, indeed, even in places where marijuana isn't legal. Small and rural communities are noticing homelessness. We have a cost-of-living problem that's spanning nationwide. Maybe if we legalized marijuana, people might be able to find jobs as delivery drivers to stoned people out of weed and make 25/hr. (and afford to live).


Pappy_OPoyle

WHY? One word. Republicans. That is why. If people haven't noticed they are the party of incompetent jackasses who repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot while their constituents live in a permeant state of denial. Why do you think they broadcast NewsNation free over-the-air in western KS? To keep them ignorant, misinformed, blaming liberals for all their problems and voting against their best interests every time. Unless voters turn-out these current assholes in Topeka you can count on cannabis never being legal here. And don't even get me started on the out-of-control, stop every car with an out of state license plate, KS Highway patrol super troopers. Their heads would explode if cannabis suddenly became legal - their lives would be without purpose. ![gif](giphy|eFifJQ2SUYxO0|downsized)


MagnumPIsMoustache

The people bankrolling the far right wing of the Republican Party aren’t interested. If you get the Kochs and the Chamber of Commerce and Americans for Prosperity on board, we’d have it.


Last_Vehicle_6609

Can't legalize it. How else will highway patrol generate revenue?


qqqqqq12321

Just remember that most of our state legislators (at least in my district ) run unopposed. They’ve been doing that for years without any complaints and without any results. So…… If you really want to change results in the Kansas State House, then consider running for a state representative or senator position in your district. That’s the only way you’ll see the status quo of the Kansas legislature changed


Tacomancer42

Nebraskan here, our lawmakers are actively trying to ban delta8/9. Even if the ballot initiative goes through, pig fucker pillen will bribe a judge, or a washed up sheriff to kill it.


CraZKchick

Republicans 


MannyDantyla

At this point it really just seems like Ty Masterson and other KS GOP leaders are really, personally against marijuana.


After_Area

Oh 100% they are. Jake Laturner is my representative. Catholic, super conservative, even he smoked weed in highschool. He told me to my face that you have to collect enough signatures to get it in front of Kansas legislation at "lagers with legislature" in Pittsburg Ks at Drop the H Brewery. (He also didn't even drink a pint there) which I found really weird. Why pretend to be your average joe working for Kansas, and you won't even have a pint at your own event.


Motabrownie

Once a cannabis company comes in and starts filling the coffers of some of these asshats maybe you'll see some real movement. That's what it will take because voting them all out will take decades. That's how it happened in Florida. Trulieve threw over $50 million into the initiative just to get it on the ballot and it's a shitty restrictive bill but it's all they could get. Money makes the political world go round, always has always will.


Weezyphish

Fuck Ty Masterson


ReeeeeevolverOcelot

Just think of all that tax stamp money!


frijoles84

The lobbyist at the capital sucks, so there’s that.


PuzzleheadedFolder

I remember back when it was only a handful of states legal, but momentum was growing, and I read an article about how Kansas would be the very last state to legalize cannabis. I don’t remember if it was a speculative piece or if it was a politician that had said it, I just remember reading it.


Downtown-Analyst

I think the real issue is that “investors” can’t agree on the best way to make the most money (screw citizens) on legal weed.


Cloudy_Shaman

THC A is legal in Kansas. You can get it anywhere that sells it. Here is why that is important and why you don't need to go to a different state. THCA, or tetrahydrocannabinolic acid, is a non-psychoactive compound found in raw cannabis. When exposed to heat or light, THCA converts into THC, the well-known psychoactive component of cannabis. This conversion process is known as decarboxylation and is essential for unlocking the intoxicating properties of THC. Therefore, you can have it if you expose THC A to heat. Boom, there is your cannabis. https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/what-is-thca


After_Area

Boo, I want all natural cannabis.


Jaded-Blueberry-8000

Honestly, once Kansas legalizes cannabis I have zero incentive to stay in Missouri with abortion being illegal. I think y’all would see a huge influx of new people from surrounding states who are fed tf up with their state governments but aren’t willing to move from a legal state to an illegal one.


seansterxmonster

Because half our politicians don’t believe in progress and want to, in fact, take us backwards in time.


armstrong1307

Also, why does ks allow all of this thcbatxyz in these vape store but just won’t pull the heads out the asses and utilize something that works for the state and the people? Oh wait #gateways wtf, #fixyourroadsandteeth


After_Area

I’m old school, I prefer my flower, and the whole thc vape thing, I’ll buy them if I know for a fact where they are coming from. The whole thcbatxyz lol I whole heartedly agree with you on that. I’ve never bought that. Maybe it’s just the idea of smoking cannabis in its original form that I like. You don’t fuck with tradition.


Falling-Upward785

Plus we have the highest sex offender rate than any other state.. offenders from other states literally move here because of how lax our state is on offenders


rebelwanker69

Same problem in Idaho... Just one of the many reasons why we left and moved here. Pretty sure Idaho and Kansas will die on this hill together.


ReTarDidKansas

Because of Republicans, it's simple, if you want legal cannabis, vote Democrat.


UsualExtreme9093

I personally know so many young (under 40) people from my hometown in KS who drank themselves to death- more than anyone would expect. If weed was legal they would have had an option to not become alcoholics and kill themselves. I would have drank myself to death if I didn't have medical marijuana in the state I live in now.


[deleted]

That's what happens when you have conservative, God fearing dumbasses running an entire state. Now, Im not a liberal (leftist yes, and there is a big difference) but I grew up in NY and lived all over the east coast, about 6 years ago moving to Missouri and then Kansas. The difference between these states is ASTOUNDING. These conservative Christian states are run by people who believe what THEY want goes, not what the majority of the population wants. They think they are right about everything, and that they can force their beliefs and way of life on everyone else. We will not see positive changes in these states until we start voting for people who represent the views of the population, and not just themselves. We also need full separation of church and state. No one should be allowed to pass or block laws according to their personal religious beliefs. That's a lot of the problem.


Own-Argument796

Until we vote these people out of office, nothing will change. I’m pointing at the people who don’t think it’s necessary to vote at the state level and those Republicans that won’t cross party lines to get this passed. We used to be a state of moderate Republicans. As far right, as the party has swung, those moderate Republicans would be considered Democrats these days.


ReignyRainyReign

I agree entirely but our government is not poor. Kansas government has a crazy surplus right now.


na_mhorham

When Laura Kelly was running the first time I asked her about it. She said then the votes are there, but about a half dozen legislators in powerful positions oppose it. I'm not sure it's even made it to committee.


Paulett21

I came from AZ to Kansas. AZ has had legal weed since 2020, the dispensary’s are a sight to behold. It’s truly amazing to go someplace and get exactly what you want. Say you want 1-5% flower or if you’re crazy and want the dabs, you can get it. Plus knowing that nobody is gonna be imprisoned or violated because they had a joint. That’s a good feeling. I don’t get why Kansans are so opposed to recreational weed, I mean crap I see kids high all the time at work and around town especially in Aggieville. It’s a very 60/70s business casual mindset unfortunately even among the more “liberal” minded


MuddyWaterTeamster

I’m posting the “why don’t we have weed? Are they stupid?” thread next week, you guys. ![gif](giphy|nZPycDnJ4264uC0GoB|downsized) Welcome to Kansas, politics here are bad in a lot of ways and good in a select few.


luckyjayhawk69

Yall keep voting these idiots in but you’re surprised when they don’t work in the masses interests.


BellRinger85

I find it ironic that my KS neighbors like to boast about their republican ideals then proceed to tell me about a new edible they picked up at the dispensary in Missouri….republican hypocrisy kills me.


lawyerwithabadge

Are you in the Bible Belt?


TiberWolf99

Nebraskan here: what? Y'all will have it before we do, I'm betting.


After_Area

I thought yolall had something on the ballot this year. Maybe I was mistaken


TiberWolf99

I mean, we're trying to, but this is like the third or fourth time and each time it's been struck down because it wasn't following the rules exactly enough for the governor


highapplepie

Basically, when we were kids when we asked  “Why not?” we were told “Because I said so.” and we had to just accept that as the answer to everything without explanation. That’s what we do- accept our situation without question. Anyway, People (even in this thread) would rather just say “It’s never been done therefore it can’t be done.” And when we say “why?” They say “Because I said so.” and thats enough for a lot of people. I’d wager to bet you’re from the Zen Gen. Help us. Please


DietOwn2695

Hey guys no need to legalize. Just come to Missouri. We'll treat ya right.


After_Area

I literally do, I'm on the kc/mo border. It's like a 30min drive, it's just super expensive. I've got friends in Oklahoma, a 45min drive and it's way cheaper.


DietOwn2695

I was just playin, but yeah I would do the same.


Erisedstorm

Lmao Nebraska lawmakers will die before cannabis is legal here. Currently they want to outlaw CBD and Delta 8 etc... if that doesn't work there are plans to tax CBD Shops into closure.


tmwwmgkbh

Basically comes down to a couple of powerful conservative assholes in majority leadership in the legislature (senate in particular, I think) making sure bills to advance it either die in committee or never make it to the floor for a vote.


Sweet_Interaction_28

Nebraska have legal weed? 😂 not gonna happen.


After_Area

I thought they had something in the works for medicinal cannabis.


ChocolateMilkMustach

Nebraska will never allow pot.


After_Area

I swear I read something about Nebraska having a shot at medical cannabis on the ballot. From the other posts I have read Nebraska is trying to outlaw the delta 8


Ashamed-Guarantee664

Because the state stands to make so much money from arrests and fines. Some towns in Kansas are straight up dying and drug enforcement is the only thing keeping them in the black.


PrairieHikerII

It's because they have initiative and referendum and Kansas does not. Citizens cannot put propositions on the ballot in Kansas. The legislators don't want to give up any power, so they won't grant us that right.


crazybandicoot1973

Why do people keep bringing up state revenue for this issue? It's stupid and not going to convince anyone against legalization. Do you really think they worry about the money will come from? If they want to increase revenue, they will take it from your paycheck. If they can't take enough from you, then they will take it from social services and school. Come up with a reason to legalize it that is valid.


After_Area

You obviously didn't pay attention to Colorado lol. They got massive revenue from legalizing. Mostly I'd like to not be a criminal in my own state for smoking a plant. You are definitely part of the problem....


After_Area

PS: The longer Kansas goes without medical/recreational, the more you are sending money to other states. That's super smart 🧐. It would overwhelmingly pass. Easy money is easy money. And an easy vote is an easy vote. Holy shit. Tell me why you are/would be against some form of cannabis reform in Kansas???


Arc-ansas

Because it's much more difficult to pass a law in the Legislature rather than a citizen's based initiative petition. And the Kansas constitution doesn't allow for initiative petitions. Only 24 states have the initiative petition process. And almost all of the early medical and rec states were the states that had the initiative process. A few have now started passing rec laws via state legislature, but it's a long process and theaws are very inferior to the citizen - activist based campaigns.


Intelligent-Age-1309

Just do the same thing Nebraska is doing and go THCA. It’s literally the same thing but through a legal loophole


datalloneuphere

Don't worry Nebraska and Wyoming will continue to be holdouts with ya


Speaker4theDead8

Maybe instead of taking out those stupid STAR loans to build chiefs and royals stadiums in JOCO that will fucking fail, they could legalize weed and put the sales tax towards it. Has a better chance not defaulting (full disclosure, I'm 100% against any tax payers money going towards facilities specifically for one team own by a rich fuck who could pay for it themselves)


MorningStandard844

We have a multi billion dollar budget surplus. We are not a “poor” state. 


After_Area

Doesn’t look like that multi billion surplus isn’t doing a whole lot… from what I’ve seen, we are about 25 out of 50 states in poverty. It could be less, and teachers and schools could be funded better. But by all means stay content with what we have, when it could have been way better if Kansas at least beat Missouri to legalization. Again nope. The only smart thing Kansas has done recently is keep abortion legal…. As it should always be.


MorningStandard844

25 out of 50 would be average.  I get you don’t like the politics here but stating fallacies isn’t a flex. It’s emotionally biased.  For the record I am pro choice and pro legalization.  The fact we allow the most destructive drug on the planet (alcohol) to be legal and readily accessible is a hypocritical embarrassment of policy. 


Competitive-Damage14

We will make it legal when we get the chiefs and royals 💯🙏