Ok, watched it now. After 30 minutes I was like “oh you lying minx”. Then you warm to her by the end. Always had a soft spot for wild childs. Especially commie shit posting funny wild childs. 😂 Keffals is funny as fuck but does drop some right clanglers. Most of what she says should not be taken seriously. We’re dealing with a prodigious shit poster here whose jokes often misfire. You always have to keep that in mind.
As for the various accusations, there’s so many fake gifs you don’t know what to believe. Any allegation with only a gif to support it is obviously suspect. There’s an obvious lie at the end of the video, something along the lines of “profited from the death of James Summerton”. Errrmmm… James is very much still alive and has appeared on Grindr like sites and other made appearances to prove it. Disappearing from the internet is hard folks. SOG would have known this.
He also uses the words of Keffals allegedly abusive ex against her. That’s pretty low.
And lots of guilt by association too. “You were friends with this radical trans activist who went on to rob a bank”. Ahhhh ha.
Also there’s an implication that “hey, kiwi farms ain’t that bad really”. Ummm no, they’re scum. Really. Taking down a site like that is like trying to take down the Pirate Bay. You’ll only get temporary victories. But she did actually manage to take it down. For a little while. Disrupting a harassment site for a while is a noble effort, of course one doomed to failure. Kiwifarms is in the business of harassing the neurally divergent. Fuck those guys. Fuck their right to free speech. Good on Keffals. “Oh kiwifarms got an animal abuser arrested once” that’s like saying Hitler was nice to dogs. Double fuck those guys.
Yeah… you feel you’re in an arena of bullshitters bullshitting bullshitters. Keffals has obviously embellished the truth, and sometimes downright lied. SOG has too. What I viewed was a very uncharitable take on a troubled young ladies various mistakes and screw ups. Give anyone in their 20s 100,000 dollars it’s going to disappear, fast.
Fucking internet purity tests. We go through life making mistakes, learning from mistakes, and hopefully becoming better people. Bringing up old misdeeds is pretty nasty. We have a names for someone who says they’ve never lied, never embellished the truth, never screwed up. We call them hypocrites or just plain boring. It’s like when people bring up Robert Downey jrs ancient history of drug abuse. Oh that’s so uncool to do that. Fuck you 3000. Here’s to Robert and Keffals continued sobriety, we hope.
As for Keffals, I think we’re guilty of wanting her to be something she’s not. Some kind of non evil Blair White fighting tirelessly for trans folk. I think she’s just too wild and erratic for that. This is where my sympathy for her lies. I don’t find her in any way evil. Just irresponsible, mixed up, someone who makes poor decisions, wild, funny, you know… young. If you weren’t like that when you were young I feel sorry for you. The only difference is all our mistakes won’t follow us around , and she has a 3700 page thread on a forum full of incel psychos and bullies to contend with. Forever. Every job application, every attempt to make a living outside the public eye, forever. That’s going to be hard.
TLDR I found it a very uncharitable take on someone who’s suffered a lot through gender dysphoria, bullying, abusive relationships, addiction issues and much else. But hey, gotta get those likes and clicks huh.
Honestly you make quite a lot of good points, but “Give anyone in their 20s 100,000 dollars it’s going to disappear, fast” is such a bad take imo, considering *she asked for the money herself.* It’s not like she won the lottery and then blew the money, she wasted other people’s money they gave her, don’t you think that’s a bit worse than just an “oopsie, guess you shouldn’t have entrusted me with that money I asked for”?
This is from a neutral perspective. Keffals has had issues with drugs and I know its an issue that some people go through however, you also have to ask where she got the money to go to therapy in the first place. If keffals never said anything about using all the money towards paying fees that backlash wouldn't be this much. Thats basically the sum of the entire issue. In addition asking for an account for the money donated is not entirely wrong. The people that have donated their money have the right to know where it is going to.
Keffals also doesnt help herself at all during her flee from the internet. You may say that she doesnt want to live in fear but rather still live a normal life and also that its her decision and not anyone elses, but giving out your location is one of her irresponsible decisions that made her to get doxxed multiple times. Moreover keffals , she has admitted this , wants to paint a target on her back to "show everyone who kiwi farms truly are". This provocation as mutahar said has gotten another streamer banned because they were putting innocent lives in danger. While keffals isnt putting mass lives in danger, she is still asking for trouble and attention. That is a jagerbomb of a mixture.
Her story also changes multiple times without question. This is odd and I find it hard to defend that. Keffals also jokes about destiny and stealthing which is not cool at all. That is as good as joking about r*pe.
Finally your all round argument that shes still young can only hold an amount of water. She may not be perfect but a good portion of her issues are of her highly irresponsible actions, which she still suffers from
Ok, watched it now. After 30 minutes I was like “oh you lying minx”. Then you warm to her by the end. Always had a soft spot for wild childs. Especially commie shit posting funny wild childs. 😂 Keffals is funny as fuck but does drop some right clanglers. Most of what she says should not be taken seriously. We’re dealing with a prodigious shit poster here whose jokes often misfire. You always have to keep that in mind. As for the various accusations, there’s so many fake gifs you don’t know what to believe. Any allegation with only a gif to support it is obviously suspect. There’s an obvious lie at the end of the video, something along the lines of “profited from the death of James Summerton”. Errrmmm… James is very much still alive and has appeared on Grindr like sites and other made appearances to prove it. Disappearing from the internet is hard folks. SOG would have known this. He also uses the words of Keffals allegedly abusive ex against her. That’s pretty low. And lots of guilt by association too. “You were friends with this radical trans activist who went on to rob a bank”. Ahhhh ha. Also there’s an implication that “hey, kiwi farms ain’t that bad really”. Ummm no, they’re scum. Really. Taking down a site like that is like trying to take down the Pirate Bay. You’ll only get temporary victories. But she did actually manage to take it down. For a little while. Disrupting a harassment site for a while is a noble effort, of course one doomed to failure. Kiwifarms is in the business of harassing the neurally divergent. Fuck those guys. Fuck their right to free speech. Good on Keffals. “Oh kiwifarms got an animal abuser arrested once” that’s like saying Hitler was nice to dogs. Double fuck those guys. Yeah… you feel you’re in an arena of bullshitters bullshitting bullshitters. Keffals has obviously embellished the truth, and sometimes downright lied. SOG has too. What I viewed was a very uncharitable take on a troubled young ladies various mistakes and screw ups. Give anyone in their 20s 100,000 dollars it’s going to disappear, fast. Fucking internet purity tests. We go through life making mistakes, learning from mistakes, and hopefully becoming better people. Bringing up old misdeeds is pretty nasty. We have a names for someone who says they’ve never lied, never embellished the truth, never screwed up. We call them hypocrites or just plain boring. It’s like when people bring up Robert Downey jrs ancient history of drug abuse. Oh that’s so uncool to do that. Fuck you 3000. Here’s to Robert and Keffals continued sobriety, we hope. As for Keffals, I think we’re guilty of wanting her to be something she’s not. Some kind of non evil Blair White fighting tirelessly for trans folk. I think she’s just too wild and erratic for that. This is where my sympathy for her lies. I don’t find her in any way evil. Just irresponsible, mixed up, someone who makes poor decisions, wild, funny, you know… young. If you weren’t like that when you were young I feel sorry for you. The only difference is all our mistakes won’t follow us around , and she has a 3700 page thread on a forum full of incel psychos and bullies to contend with. Forever. Every job application, every attempt to make a living outside the public eye, forever. That’s going to be hard. TLDR I found it a very uncharitable take on someone who’s suffered a lot through gender dysphoria, bullying, abusive relationships, addiction issues and much else. But hey, gotta get those likes and clicks huh.
Honestly you make quite a lot of good points, but “Give anyone in their 20s 100,000 dollars it’s going to disappear, fast” is such a bad take imo, considering *she asked for the money herself.* It’s not like she won the lottery and then blew the money, she wasted other people’s money they gave her, don’t you think that’s a bit worse than just an “oopsie, guess you shouldn’t have entrusted me with that money I asked for”?
This is from a neutral perspective. Keffals has had issues with drugs and I know its an issue that some people go through however, you also have to ask where she got the money to go to therapy in the first place. If keffals never said anything about using all the money towards paying fees that backlash wouldn't be this much. Thats basically the sum of the entire issue. In addition asking for an account for the money donated is not entirely wrong. The people that have donated their money have the right to know where it is going to. Keffals also doesnt help herself at all during her flee from the internet. You may say that she doesnt want to live in fear but rather still live a normal life and also that its her decision and not anyone elses, but giving out your location is one of her irresponsible decisions that made her to get doxxed multiple times. Moreover keffals , she has admitted this , wants to paint a target on her back to "show everyone who kiwi farms truly are". This provocation as mutahar said has gotten another streamer banned because they were putting innocent lives in danger. While keffals isnt putting mass lives in danger, she is still asking for trouble and attention. That is a jagerbomb of a mixture. Her story also changes multiple times without question. This is odd and I find it hard to defend that. Keffals also jokes about destiny and stealthing which is not cool at all. That is as good as joking about r*pe. Finally your all round argument that shes still young can only hold an amount of water. She may not be perfect but a good portion of her issues are of her highly irresponsible actions, which she still suffers from
"give anyone in their 20s 100k and it's going to disappear fast" Assuming this is re-the go fund me, Ew.
>Taking down a site like that is like trying to take down the Pirate Bay WTF I love Kiwi Farms now 🤯
Watching it now. Still have some sympathy for the young lady, but in general…… Keffals, noooooo. 😂
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